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Topic: BIG Nebraska airsoft event in Apr 07
Posted By: oldsoldier
Subject: BIG Nebraska airsoft event in Apr 07
Date Posted: 06 November 2006 at 7:40pm
Just got the e-mailed approval from the Nebraska National Guard that we can use the Mead Training area (3000 acres) for a large airsoft event in the spring. My re-enactment groups already use the site.

The site was an old ordanance plant during WW2, as well as a deactivated Titan/NIKE site from the later 60's.

We have access to all the site, the 4 silos, the two factory buildings, the underground tunnels connecting the silos, the bunkers, trenches, outbuildings etc. Should be an absolute blast.

There will be safety constraints such as helmets in the buildings, boots on site, safety trained personnel to clear weapons, standard training area SOP's etc.

Will draw up a urban war scenario over winter and see where we go. Looking at an initial 1 day operation, later in year maybe an overnight 24 hour saturation event.

Anyone in area interested let me know, we can arrange for "rentals" of mid AEG's.





Safety rules and requirements: as of 10Nov06

Following are personal equipment requirements:

Full seal paintball style goggles or proffesional grade balistic goggles (no shooting glasses or wallyworld styled minigoggles) Googles will go on once cleared of range control/parking area and will remain on till return to parking area. NO removal of goggles, bring appropiate cleaning/defogging rags and fluid and start practicing flip up, head down quick wipe method of cleaning/de-fogging.

Any NVS (night vision) will be binocular and will have same rules as goggles. You put them on in parking area and remove upon return to parking area. Malfunction of NVS will be verified and a total field safety hold will be called till regular goggles are put on.

Long pants and shirt- NO short sleeves

Full ankle boots, no low cut below ankle foot wear allowed on site.

Helmet required for entry into buildings, reg mil issue or any abs/sim plastic simulation with chinstrap. (a lot of protrusions in buildings head injury an issue) any individuals in buildings without helmet will be imediately escorted off property, NO warnings.

Picture ID in around the neck ID holder, one game ID one div license or recognized form of picture ID can be stuffed into shirt (age and participant verifacation. Must be shown to any MP or uniformed military personnel on demand.

Weapon Requirements:

400fps limit....initially (issues with safety and NG unfamiliar with Airsoft, probably can get it raised for DSR's after initial event)

.20/.23/.25gr white BB's only, no black, colored or tracers, they may insist on biodegradeable waiting on thier call on that.

20 foot day 30 foot nigh Safety range will be inforced, there will be NG/RES "umpires/observers" on site and immediate removal from site on violation.

Barrel sock worn at all times that gun is NOT in play, if you are not live and in the game, you will barrel sock muzzle.

Magazines removed if not live, weapons on safe, weapons carried muzzle down.

A safety range will be established for test firing all weapons. NO discharging of weapons loaded or unloaded in parking or camping areas.

Upon end of game all weapons will be cleared, magazines out, fired three times to clear hop-ups, barrel sock on, batterys removed, gas discharged, then cleared to leave site. (standard range control safety for real firearms modified for our sport.)



Waiver: A waiver is being drawn up by NG legal based on the GOAA waiver to include the NG and site. Will advise.

18 or older to play verified by picture ID

Will begin preregistration Jan 3rd, once training area NG/Res training dates are locked in and we can fit into schedule.



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Replies:
Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 06 November 2006 at 7:57pm
Sweet, I might go.  I live in Omaha.  Might talk my cousin into it, too.


Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 06 November 2006 at 8:00pm
Sounds kick ass. I'll try to go.

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Posted By: Badsmitty
Date Posted: 06 November 2006 at 8:00pm
Prolly too far travelwise, O.S.  But keep me posted. 


Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 06 November 2006 at 8:13pm
Waaaaay too far for me to go, but it sounds like loads of fun!


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 06 November 2006 at 8:21pm
Dangit! You guys should come to Texas...

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Posted By: Badsmitty
Date Posted: 06 November 2006 at 8:23pm
Operation Irene at Fort Knox is the Holy Grail for me.


Posted By: kickinwing2010
Date Posted: 06 November 2006 at 8:30pm
Originally posted by Brian Fellows Brian Fellows wrote:

Sweet, I might go.Ê I live in Omaha.Ê Might talk my
cousin into it, too.

I'll try my hardest to go...I also live in Omaha what part do you live in, I
can also try to convince farcry and a few other friends who play to go.

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 06 November 2006 at 8:50pm

anyone know how a far a drive this is from ontario?

sounds like the god of tactical gamning.

 



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Posted By: Farcry0092
Date Posted: 06 November 2006 at 10:59pm
dude im sooooo there.


Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 7:09am
For those interested in coming a few things.

Pricing will be minimal, just to cover base expenses,
we will have recharging available on site, BB's for sale and hopefully some vendors. Just starting initial planning phase.

On a safety note, full seal goggles will be required (no shooting glasses) a military styled helmet (real or good plastic imatation) if you plan on entering buildings, supportive boots.

There will be a uniform requirement for the sides airsoft does not use the armtape method. Green for one side, desert/tan for other.

We will be on a military reservation so plan accordingly.

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Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 7:54am
sounds like tons of fun

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Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 9:28am

That does sound like a good time, unfortunatly my best airsoft gun is an electric pistol we're most people will have the co2 powered ones that blow heads off. If I went I'd go buy a co2 powered colt 1911 replica but a i don't think they make those and b I so don't have the money

 



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Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 10:29am
Originally posted by kickinwing2010 kickinwing2010 wrote:

Originally posted by Brian Fellows Brian Fellows wrote:

Sweet, I might go.Ê I live in Omaha.Ê Might talk my
cousin into it, too.

I'll try my hardest to go...I also live in Omaha what part do you live in, I
can also try to convince farcry and a few other friends who play to go.

I'm in North Omaha.


Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 10:32am
I've always wanted to visit nebraska.......

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Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 10:38am
If anyone from out of state decides to show up:

I know it's spelled Norfolk, but it's pronounced nor-fork.  Don't ask me why.  But if you go to Norfolk, and pronounce it wrong, you might get yourself shot.

And Kearney.  Think car + knee.  Not keer-knee.  People from Minnesota in particular seem to have a problem with that one.

Also, if you're driving through Western Nebraska, or through South Omaha, hold your breath.


Posted By: Farcry0092
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 12:11pm

Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

For those interested in coming a few things.

Pricing will be minimal, just to cover base expenses,
we will have recharging available on site, BB's for sale and hopefully some vendors. Just starting initial planning phase.

On a safety note, full seal goggles will be required (no shooting glasses) a military styled helmet (real or good plastic imatation) if you plan on entering buildings, supportive boots.

There will be a uniform requirement for the sides airsoft does not use the armtape method. Green for one side, desert/tan for other.

We will be on a military reservation so plan accordingly.

so we have to buy all of that?



Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 2:13pm
Just go to Canfield's.  They have a fairly large stock of military surplus, and their prices are fairly reasonable.  Otherwise, try to find some deals online.


Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 2:20pm
I'll definitely keep an eye on the details. Airsoft would be new to me, but Nebraska isn't that far of a trip.


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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 2:55pm
wow!  I might Actually think about this, I'm on the other side of Wyoming, but... whats a 600mi Road Trip?   Hmmmm...  I'm intrested  Need to get my Airsoft gun a new spring though. 

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 3:43pm

have any pics of the base?

what do you have to do to bring a airsoft/paintball gun across the border?



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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 4:45pm
My God I wanna go. Too bad this is probably scheduled in the middle of the school year for me...

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 5:17pm

so?



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Posted By: Badsmitty
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 5:27pm
After I build my M14 this winter, I may just shoot at you from Ohio.


Posted By: youm0nt
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 5:48pm
Originally posted by Brian Fellows Brian Fellows wrote:

If anyone from out of state decides to show up:I know it's spelled Norfolk, but it's pronounced nor-fork.  Don't ask me why.  But if you go to Norfolk, and pronounce it wrong, you might get yourself shot.And Kearney.  Think car + knee.  Not keer-knee.  People from Minnesota in particular seem to have a problem with that one.Also, if you're driving through Western Nebraska, or through South Omaha, hold your breath.

lol im from new jersey and thats how id say kearney. did not know about nor fork though.lincoln=abraham lincoln?


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 6:42pm
Originally posted by Badsmitty Badsmitty wrote:

After I build my M14 this winter, I may just shoot at you from Ohio.
I challeng thee with my future AUG.

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Posted By: kickinwing2010
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 6:47pm
Originally posted by Brian Fellows Brian Fellows wrote:

If anyone from out of state decides to show up:I
know it's spelled Norfolk, but it's pronounced nor-fork.Ê Don't ask me
why.Ê But if you go to Norfolk, and pronounce it wrong, you might get
yourself shot.And Kearney.Ê Think car + knee.Ê Not keer-knee.Ê People
from Minnesota in particular seem to have a problem with that one.Also,
if you're driving through Western Nebraska, or through South Omaha,
hold your breath.

South o is more like dont stare and keep your doors locked. I once had to
fill up my tank on my car and was down there and i got so many bad
looks i just kept my door open and my p ball gun close. Also in western
nebraska there is the town called ogalala forgive spelling but anyways
there is this resteraunt called juny mays once again forgive spelling but
they make a good home style breakfast.

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Posted By: kickinwing2010
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 6:57pm
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

have any pics of the base?


what do you have to do to bring a airsoft/paintball gun across the
border?


as far as both go im not quite sure i tried looking for pics on google but
wasnt able to find any results.

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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 7:02pm
to bring airsoft across the border... just hide it in your pooster.



Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 8:23pm
As of last check, to cross border, weapon must be declared, and disassembled, I would just seperate upper and lower reciever, and have battery in differant container. I used to cross with PB gauns, disassembled, and air source seperate from system in secured container. Always bought PB's in country, never tried to cross with "ammo", differant set of rules and interpatation.

Buy your BB's in states.

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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 10:41pm
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 10:42pm
Would trade mark issues come into play with some guns?


Posted By: Belt #2
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 12:07am

I won't be able to make it, but if it works out, you definately need to do it again in a few years (after i turn 18 in a year and a month) and i WILL be there.



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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 12:20am

any better pics?

like close up



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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 12:24am
Jeez. I almost got the go-ahead, but the 1 day thing changed minds. It needs to be a flat-out all weekend event, like in paintball scenarios.

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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 7:17am
Don't worry yet, most of the folks I have talked to want a 24 hour saturation event. And Yes, a saturation event is 24 FULL hours, no midnight break, night opns all night. I will pick a weekend closest to full moon if that is the way we go.

Noon to noon, bring a ruck or day pack, chow is going to be where you have time, wherever.

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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 3:26pm
Once up and movin planning on recon and picture trip. Will get a website up asap.

Planning on a 12/24 hour saturation event, military vs insurgent w/neutral? civilian, free reign mission assignment based on situations, point system with points awarded based on accomplished scenario goals not missions all the time.

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Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 3:37pm
Would MRE's be a good idea, then?


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 3:48pm

eww mre's

 

aww man nm its gona be like a 24 hour drive



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Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 4:50pm
MRE's aren't too bad, depending on what you get.  I've tried one before, and it was decent.

Otherwise, at some sporting goods stores, they have bags of dehydrated soup.  You just boil water, and pour it straight into the bag.  I could bring a Sterno, or just go cheap and bring a Pepsi-can stove.


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 5:08pm
Ramen Noodles...

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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 5:16pm
Ranger rations: in a zip lock baggie, instant rice, bullion cube (beef or chicken), or tomato cup of soup, and beef jerky. Just add boiling water, instant rice or soup. We carried it a lot, light easy to fix, kinda like the old LRRP rations of old.

Breakfast: in another zip lock, just a few packs of instant oatmeal, grits, cream of wheat, whatever, raisans, and some brown sugar and salt, again just add boiling water, mash around and eat.

Freezer bags work best.



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Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 5:29pm
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.


Posted By: Badsmitty
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 7:38pm
I lived in Hutchinson Kansas for a little while.  I've made the drive from Ohio out that way a couple of times.  It's a pretty good drive, but if I can, I just might do it.  If anyone needs to catch a ride out of Ohio, maybe I can help.  I'll have to see how it goes... Maybe I can drag Hway's ass out there with me.  I have a p90 he can use.


Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 7:14pm
Google earth: Mead, NE   center cursor at 41"11'30.67N 96"26'21.08 W

Training area

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Posted By: Belt #2
Date Posted: 11 November 2006 at 12:51am

Yeah, Too bad I'm going to miss it, it sounds like it would be amazing. (As my friend says "Its gonna be... AMAAAzing")

Perhaps in another year or two, you (OS) and i can pressure them into allowing a continuious 48 hour game. No official rests, breaks or anything. Just hauling <butt> for 48 hours straight.

It's be a challenge, and very hard to set up and ref, but I'd totally be up for it.



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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 12 November 2006 at 3:26pm
Re-read opening post, safety requirements are now official

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