So... Anyone else disapointed in the x7?
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Topic: So... Anyone else disapointed in the x7?
Posted By: RavenGuard
Subject: So... Anyone else disapointed in the x7?
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 5:04pm
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I really think it's a terrible idea, and instead of tippmann re-thinking and making a new better design... it's an a-5 with body kits... basically only good for milsimmers... it's only incouraging people to make there gun look real, instead of making their gun work well. More noobs to pwn for me i guess? ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
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Posted By: tecumseh
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 5:13pm
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i have the same feeling as you, to many people will have one and it will take the fun out of milsim because nearly most milsim players will own the x7 and will stop making their own unique style ------------- what? |
Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 5:16pm
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Yeah, that's something i thought of too, instead of people being original (in the small sence they are now) everyone will just have different variations of the x7, and individuality will be lost even moreso than with the 98 and the a-5. Atleast with those you were encouraged to do your own paintjob, or do SOMETHING to personalize it... now they give just enough options so people will already feel as though it's personalized.... it'll just end up being like the people with m4-a5's or m4-98s. I would take a triumph over one of these things. ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 5:38pm
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what's the difference between this, and a lot of people shooting A-5s with spec ops crap on it? nothing. I like it. |
Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 5:40pm
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I like the idea, though I agree it's not that original. ------------- Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good. |
Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 5:47pm
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I love it when people drag out soap boxes and make a grand spectacle of making Uninformed Statements about things they really dont know a thing about.
Have you held it? Seen it? taken it appart ect ect? to know it's not a better design than the A-5? Just because it has a cyclone in my experience the best loader for any rec/woods ball out there. With the Soaring popularity of Scenario & Big Games why not market towards that crowd that has been the Die Hard Back bone of the Tippmann Player base? This reminds me of the "why the model 98 is soo gonna stink because it's made from molded halves unlike the milled Recievers of the Carbines" arguments of old. Now the Model 98 has been the Backbone of Paintball Scenario and recreational games for almost 7 plus years. To quote my Platoon Sargent, Make sure your mind is loaded before you shoot off your mouth... ------------- 
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 5:48pm
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well... why change something (read as: the internals) if they work just fine. look at kingman, timmies, and even the matrix line of markers... their internals stay pretty much the same. granted, the matrix guns do go through some changes, but mostly to make the gun smaller. timmies, except for the newer ones have all of the same type of internals and same with kingman. if it isn't broken, don't fix it. |
Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 5:52pm
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I think that the X7 is basically showing the influence that specops is having on tippmann as a company. look at the components available: they are almost all identical to specops stuff.
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 5:56pm
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I think PCF hit it. It's not like any other gun has been through a major redesign recently. Most people are keeping the guts more or less the same while revamping the "outsides". I like the X7. A lot. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 6:14pm
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i would like it more if they released origional mods instead of the m4/ak stuff. theres nothing really origional for it imo
granted, it will sell tons and who says you can't do millsim and performance ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 6:14pm
The A5 is just a 98 with a soupcan on the side! ------------- 
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Evil Elvis wrote:Posted By: pattison
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 6:51pm
a carbine with a cyclone would fix everything ------------- Eat The Brisket |
Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 7:19pm
lol Factory F/A |
Posted By: estcstpnt
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 7:43pm
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Woah. RavenGaurd. Where have you been. And, I just don't like this or the triumph. ------------- Thinking about it... |
Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 9:04pm
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i dunno, the forum life wasn't fitting in for a while there. since then i've gone to two big wasaga beach games and completed my a-5 setup. Anyways, i still haven't seen an argument to change my mind on this one. I don't like how it looks at all, and I still think it diverts people even further from being original. It's obviously going to be no better than the a-5 stock, aside from the improved cyclone, but you're paying extra for that and it's an unnoticable difference in my opinion anyways, 15bps is plenty in my opinion, anything over is just me showing off :P Sure it'll work, and it'll be a decent gun, it's a Tippmann, but the fact that it IS no different from the people who get an a-5 or a 98 and put all the specops and ops gear crap on it, it is infact encouraging it, and i personally don't like it. Firstly, because i KNOW that these people will get this gun, spend $800 on it, and it'll b the coolest thing in the world, but be running stock with co2... Secondly, i know a decent amount about firearms, and i'm completely against making paintball guns into half-breed milsim guns. I can't stand seeing someone with an mp5 front shroud and an AK magazine. I'm not questioning Tippmann on their decision, it was the most obvious next step for them, and their goal is to make money and gain customers, but i just know i'm going to hate this gun at the local fields more than i can't stand ions lol. I guess this problem would be around without the x7... it just doesnt help it. Sorry if i offended anyone, some of you obviously have your forum tempers on (hopefully FORUM tempers), but this is just my opinion, and i'm not the only one who prefers performance over asthetics.
and Ilford at first i didn't catch this but it looks like you may not know that specops partnered with tippann to make this marker... all the plastic mod parts have specops labels on them... but i could have just understood what you said wrong, if so, my bad ;) ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: i type slow
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 9:29pm
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i think it looks awsome, but EVRYONE will have one. i wish somone would buy one and let us see its internals the handle looks kinda glossy. but hay i dont think tippmann is going to put out a crappy gun so you guys should stop bashing it. besides that EVRYONE already has a 98 or a-5. ------------- ^^correct me if im wrong^^ search before you post! 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 9:30pm
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i play at wasaga once-twice per year... in my opinion their old field was better
where do you live? anyone else see this becoming like a woodsball ion? and i believe you did misunderstand him.
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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 9:41pm
i live in mississauga, my home field is paintball nation. ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 9:45pm
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i have never played at paintball nation though i bought my apex there. i live in grimsby, near hamilton. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 12:57am
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I lost all faith in the company when it came out with the custom pro. |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 1:05am
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I was excited about the CPro. The E-Grip at an affordable price was nice. Never got one though. Then, it just kinda went downhill from there. I actually like the X7 though. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 1:30am
| I saw the CP as a rehash of a 7 year old gun. I was really hoping for something new. By the time the C3 came out, it was too late for me. |
Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 2:45pm
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My dad likes the X7, but, hes more of a milsim type of person that plays speedball with me and my friends. I dont really like it, but of course others will, and because it can be bought with all the stuff together on it, im sure it will sell like crazy for christmas. ------------- 
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Posted By: Gravesend
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 4:04pm
| I haven't seen it in action yet so I will reserve my opinions for later but from what I can see, it doesn't seem anything special. I think the X-7 would be very appealing to a new emerging paintball crowd but to veterans like so many of us it doesn't seem like anything special. |
Posted By: Rock Slide
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 6:24pm
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And who says you have to modify it at all? Or modify it with only the parts provided? I'm sure there are those out there that can come up with "something new"... After all, that's what we do. ------------- I bring annihilation and cheap red wine! |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 6:31pm
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Get used to it, TIppmann isnt the same anymore. And as far as the deal with their new markers looking alike, thats nothing new. ------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 8:37pm
Yeah, too bad more people weren't like that though. And i personally love the custom pro, i plan to get one someday. Maybe even custom make an ebolt for it, if I don't do that with my a-5. I also have dreams of an ebolted and milled speedball a-5. It'll still have a cyclone, i don't care what anyone says! :P ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 9:24pm
I had that dream once. Except I was going to drill a hole off the top and make it centerfeed. The mill all that extra crap of the A-5, get a Palmers reg, and some other stuff. |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 9:40pm
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Posted By: mobius_1
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 10:54pm
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Seeing as paintball is still a young sport is still developing rapidly, and the pace at which it is changing is only getting faster, I think this would be the marker that Tippy would go with. Though I would like to see a new pump on the market. The C3 I guess is ok....but something about propane right next to me isn't so attractive and I am a welder and use flammable gasses all the time.
here is a nice example of a custom Tippy, sl-68 II with a a-5 flatline, shroud milled, pwdercoated, and wood highlights. Made by Ken at K&P Customs http://www.kpcustoms.net/ - KPCS All I can say is wow does that thing shot, when I saw it used it was the best performance from a flatline I have seen before. If tippmann wants to get on the wagon again, they should look at the fact pumps are coming back, and coming back strong. ------------- "Here are beauties which pierce like swords or burn like cold iron." -C.S. Lewis |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 11:34pm
| Paintball isn't young per se, but I agree. New tippmann is lame-o. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 11:58pm
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yeah tippmann should make a high quality pump ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: i type slow
Date Posted: 10 November 2006 at 1:13am
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^^^ that would be cool
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Posted By: fut004
Date Posted: 10 November 2006 at 10:28am
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I think the X7 was a waste of development time. This thing is an A5 with a fancy Cyclone, and it actually weighs more. |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 10 November 2006 at 4:55pm
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It wasnt just tippmann that made this. This is part of the Tippmann Spec ops joint relationship
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Posted By: Awesomeman
Date Posted: 10 November 2006 at 4:57pm
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ya exactly, and %#$@ yes im gonna get one. attach my dam grenade launcher to it and im set. ------------- Tippmann A5, Flatline RIS shroud, RT, AVS Laser, Napco Red dot scope, M4 sliding stock, G36k Mag kit, Rased rail sight... AWESOMEMAN RULES |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 10 November 2006 at 5:25pm
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Which just adds to my repulsion. |
Posted By: Awesomeman
Date Posted: 10 November 2006 at 5:31pm
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caz ur <poopy> ------------- Tippmann A5, Flatline RIS shroud, RT, AVS Laser, Napco Red dot scope, M4 sliding stock, G36k Mag kit, Rased rail sight... AWESOMEMAN RULES |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 10 November 2006 at 6:25pm
| I'm so hurt. |
Posted By: dirtbike14455
Date Posted: 10 November 2006 at 7:10pm
| i think tippmann is just trying to go in a different direction |
Posted By: mobius_1
Date Posted: 10 November 2006 at 7:16pm
Actually it is young, compare it to football, soccer, baseball, tennis, bad mitten, golf, basketball, and hocckey and you will see some of these sports are almost ancient compared to paintball.....even the mainstream sports now adays are 2 to 3 times older than paintball. The difference is how fast technology has rapidly developed in the past 20 yrs, which has affected everything from how we live to how we play. This X7 was definitely a lack of innovation...sure the Tippmann CVX valve is among one of the studiest and most reliable valve and hammer setups there is, so I understand keeping that, but the rest of the x-7 is just a cosmetic upgrade it seems from an A-5. I understand the fact that Scenario ball and woods ball are coming back in a big way, but lets take a look at something. The SPPL still relies on massive amounts of paint slinging in order to win....so what is the diferrence between playing that or on a air ball field? NOt much, size and number of players is about it since the pro ballers downsized the teams from 10 to 7. Ok Milsim guys how many rounds do you honestly think a a soldier carries on him. It is not the 1200+ rounds you carry on your super duper vests. If you truly want to go milsim the closest you are going to get is stockless pump/limited paint and air games. Maybe I am going a bit off subject, but it seems to me that the manufactures keep vomiting these paint hoses at us. When I play scenarios, I have a certain setup I run, I have a Palmer Typhoon, with a 15 rnd springfeed, it is back bottle, and I use a 13ci/3000psi tank. I get approximately 180 shots off of that tank, when I start the game I have 15 rnds in the gun, and 16 10 rnd tubes in my LBV. So total I carry is 160 rnds in plus 15 in gun. And it works. I do get stares, but I can play all day and keep going. So there is other alternatives to paint hoses out there. http://imageshack.us"> 
If you want to make your A-5 more milsim, try one of the tac caps for it that limits the cyclone to only 30 rnds, run a small light tank, and use 10 rnd tubes to carry your paint, or you can make pods that hold 30. You will have a blast and be even closer to true milsim than many others and you will be able to keep playing much much longer since you are not carrying 30lbs of extra weight on your body. ok rant is over ------------- "Here are beauties which pierce like swords or burn like cold iron." -C.S. Lewis |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 10 November 2006 at 7:24pm
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^^^That's called a tangent. It touches the topic briefly, then flies off in its own direction. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 11 November 2006 at 5:14pm
Edited note: I am reserving judgement on the X7 until more information is available. I probably won't get one, but only because I already have to many markers. Totally unrelated edited note: I wish someone would make a 45 round electric hopper, it would be fun for limited paint games. ------------- 
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(I use a 6 oz tank and a 45 round hopper on my Phantom and carry 4 10 round tubes for reloading.)Posted By: mobius_1
Date Posted: 11 November 2006 at 6:51pm
Thanks, for the compliment. I agree a nice electro 45 rnd hop would be a nice choice. AS you stated the reg riffleman carries under 300 rnds. You figure one hopper of paint is equivalent to a rifle man's load. Obviously you saw guy is not your standard rifle man, and in paintball...it seems that the companies are trying to set that as the standard, where in essence if you wanted to play a true scenario, you would have mostly rifle man with small numbers a of saw gunners....as it stands now it is the reverse. ------------- "Here are beauties which pierce like swords or burn like cold iron." -C.S. Lewis |
Posted By: fut004
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 4:58pm
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Probably because the PB companies know that the more paint people "waste" while out on the field is another few cents in their pocket. More Paint used per game = More Profit. |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 11:37pm
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Keep in mind that the biggest benefit offered by this marker to the MilSim community is a new receiver to work with, designed form the ground up with modularity and modification in mind. I don't give half a crap what Tippmann and SpecOps release for it. What I want to see is what Engler comes up with, or what some of our machinists over at MilSimOG make in terms of aftermarket parts. The potential for this marker to be the basis of all kinds of new custom mods is HUGE. There's no need for great technological improvement. For woodsball/milsim play, Tippmann has a solid system that works and has a solid reputation. What this marker will also do is foster interest in the MilSim style of play, which will in turn feed more money back into the MilSim portion of the market as interest increases and other companies jump on the bus. As far as I'm concerned any new development, any push in a new direction is a good thing for our sport. If the X7 doesn't look perfectly like a UMP, so what? Most of the kids will like it, and if gets more of 'em in the woods, so much the better. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: mobius_1
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 10:35pm
Well yes that is the obvious reason. Also the reason that paint is so much cheaper than it was say 15 years ago or more. Simple econoimics. I do not mean to step on any toes, I do not care if it is a perfect replica of something. I just would have liked to seen some more innovation put forth into this. I play a bit of everything myself, but my heart is in the deep woods. That is where the game becomes truley thrilling, so if it gets more out into the woods, so be it. ------------- "Here are beauties which pierce like swords or burn like cold iron." -C.S. Lewis |
Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 16 November 2006 at 3:25pm
| meh the new cyclone looks good, i like the reaised sites, the a5 1s r 2 hard 2 line up with a stock n a big mask, n i like soe of the custimizations but ya its pretty much just trying 2 get at a larger market, like what they did withthe triumph series.... havnt seen any1 use it or says its good, they just want more money....who dosnt tho? |
Posted By: Snick
Date Posted: 17 November 2006 at 9:01pm
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Personally, I find it really funny how everyone reacts when something new comes out. Everyone says the Tippmann needs to come out with some New technology that will change the way people look at paintball. Tippmann releases the C-3 that threw everyone through a loop with the fact it uses propane and gets thousands and thousands of shots per tank. and what happens? everyone complains saying "why does it have to be a pump?" "they should find a way to make it into a semi-auto!" they expect everything to happen instantly Everyone says that Tippmann needs to come out with a cheap effective speedball gun. Tippmann releases the Triumph, everyone complains that its to cheap and nothing new, is the same old system Tippmann has used in the past with their effective CVX valve and Hammer system. Everyone says that Tippmann needs to do what they do best, woodsball. Tippmann releases the X-7 with the help of SpecOps to appeal to the Milsimballers who were saying they need something easier to do something with than the A-5 which they have to spend tons of money on for aftermarker cosmetic junk from OpsGear. and what happens, everyone else besides the milsimers cry bloody murder for "making an A-5 clone that appeals to milsim players." I can only wait till Tippmann annouces the release of a new gun that basicly comes stock as an E-bolted-Low pressure kitted, centerfeed 98. Everyone will cry saying "its a 98 with an LPK and E-bolt WAHAHAHA!!!! we wanted something 'new'!!!" and guess what, if Tippmann came out with a new high-end electro-pneumatic gun that wasnt like the above everyone would scream saying its a "Tippy-Timmy" or "its just like any of the other high end electros" _______________________ all in all, you all need to realize when they give you what you ask for and stop crying.
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Posted By: mobius_1
Date Posted: 17 November 2006 at 9:16pm
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Well, I am sure it will be a good and reliable gun, it is a tippmann afterall. I think alot of people just want to see something fresh, and this platform still seems to be a carry over, nothing really new to it other than ease of installation for milsim parts. ------------- "Here are beauties which pierce like swords or burn like cold iron." -C.S. Lewis |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 17 November 2006 at 10:29pm
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I just see another base gun that will require additional add-ons to become what the player wants, nothing more. Yes Tippmann is attempting to seperate the two very distinct markets, but did not make that much of a leap.
Held it, looked at it, and just shrugged the shoulders. It is still basically a painthose, appealing to the sit and shoot howitzer arced long ranged battles that paintball calls mil-sim. Go with the 30 round short caps, small air systems, bring the game back to the roots and truely seperate the two markets, till then basically paintball mil-sim is still just a version of speedball spray and pray, without the combat pajamas. ------------- 
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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 17 November 2006 at 11:11pm
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Funny, When I play paintball I see Fire and Manuever. I see an agressive game of communication and Firepower and Movement. The true "MILSIM " Hardcore rules paintball is inefective and almost ridiculous. Since Paintball Markers dont behave like Real Weapons, no more than Airsoft Markers do. While we all can pretend and close our eyes. The reality isnt there. Paintball has 'never left it's roots' games are still played by friends in secluded wooded areas. Now a large established industry employing thousands of people. Part fo it even makes prime time TV as a Sporting Event. Durring the Warmer Months and some Brave souls durring the Colder Months still take on the Field wearing Cammoflauge engaged in skirmishes.
The Future of Paintball isnt the Speedball Player in ESPN, not all of us are that good to compete in those circuits. Not is the MILSIM guy with the Teeny Hopper Low Crawling under a Bush. The Future of Paintball is a lot like the SPECOPS protrait of the woodsball player. A Mix of Both. With the Agressive rate of fire and Bold Moves of the Speedball players and the Technology of Cammoflauge, Communications, tactics and fieldcraft of Woodsplayers. Just like Warfare evolved with the Invention of the Machine Gun. And more recently the High Speed Mobility of Combat have yet again redined Combat. You cant judge the future of anything by being stuck on the past. Doing so only leaves you obsolete and in the dust. Like Darwins Law ... evolve or become extinct. -------------
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 17 November 2006 at 11:33pm
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My complaint on the system is that is is not that large a leap into the mil-sim market, other than a few internal changes and a cosmetic makeover of the A5. Has potential for what can be accomplished but the added costs to get what you want to me is a little over the top. Market complete systems at a better cost than a base marker and piecing it together at a higher per piece gross cost.
The 20m game will be the limiting factor, and the high firepower keeps a good majority of the engagements down to a sit and shoot event with the few knowledgable in the true techniques moving. There is a good potential for fun in that world. I just moved on to a more re-enactment form of mil-sim, and a slightly greater range factor. And being less mobile with age sitting back at range with a 450fps M14 gives me more time to shoot and move. Another reason I left, I can no longer move as I used to in paintball. -------------
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Posted By: mobius_1
Date Posted: 18 November 2006 at 12:22am
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So there is a few improvements over the a-5 with this gun.
I think the problem here has been that, with Tippmann's jump to the A-5 from the 98 it was like a whole new world opening up. With the X7, it is not giving that same type of feeling. ------------- "Here are beauties which pierce like swords or burn like cold iron." -C.S. Lewis |
Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 2:41am
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Well, whatever. We know it will perform as well as a tippmann, and all that jazz. I guess the lesson is, as much as we all love tippmann, they ARE there to make money.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 2:58am
You can't make everyone happy. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 2:59am
| That is not what Newton was referring to. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 3:04am
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true but.... the words work
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 3:09am
| I'm pretty sure our reaction is less significant and meaningful than their action. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 3:25am
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no we are the people who they depend on ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 21 November 2006 at 12:02pm
LMAO! nice one. ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 21 November 2006 at 1:59pm
Our reaction has no bearing on the course they are going to take in the sale of this thing. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 21 November 2006 at 2:24pm
It's a partnership, thats the point. Specops isnt standing over tippmann going "MAKE THIS!!!!" They're working together on a new project that hits the target for both of them. Also this way, Spec Ops isnt left playing catch-up after the X7 launches, trying to rapidly build mods for it to avoid missing out on the launch rush, etc. They were involved since day 1, so all their mods are available already. Good move on both parts. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 21 November 2006 at 5:48pm
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 21 November 2006 at 5:56pm
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Yeah, that logic really fits with the C3. |