I love my gun!!!

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Second Video, My kid is fine! LOL

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(FI)K-9COP wrote: LOL, no, he wanted to do it. He shoots me all the time. There was no marks or bruising. He has his own gun now, so we play all the time together in the back yard. Start them young.

thats the way to do it... i say you shouldve got him on full auto till your hopper ran out.

LOL, no, I dont want to hurt him, but did want him to get the full scale of what he wanted to do (playing paintball). I nicked his shoulder, because I was laughing at him, as you can see in the beginning of the video he was all smiles, (when the ball hit the helmet). I have to give my kid some credit, he's a awesome kid, and not scared to try new things. You should see him on his motorcycle, he can do wheelies already.

(FI)K-9COP wrote: It's way thicker than the paintball mask, If it can withstand a motercycle crash at 200 mph (Head First, paved road), I'm pretty sure it can take a paintball at 40 yrds away. Anyways, We fired 300 rounds at the helmet before we put anyone in it, and it's still intact. I also lowered the velocity, to make sure it would be safe. He's been shot playing, so it's not the first time he's been hit.

Safety

So, what your saying is that a motorcycle helmet is less protection than a paintball mask? Even though the motorcycle helmet is a complete head protection, with a visior that was regulated by DOT, to be able to withstand more stress and punishment, than a top of the line paintball mask. Your telling me my paintball mask would hold up better in a motorcycle accident? I know its not the same situation, but give me a break, his head was totally protected along with his throat (AIRWAY). He's going to get scares and broken bones as he grows up. My son rides his bike in the street, do I have to put bubble rap down? My son has enough courage to get shot and take it, he understands to shoot someone in a game is the possibility to get shot back. He's been playing since he was 5 so, he has a couple of years under his belt already, so thank you for your concern, but he is totally fine, with no marks from that occurance. He continues to play and he wants to go Pro when he gets older, so who am I to stop a kid who is pushing for something he loves to do. I'm a father first, but I will also be the first one to protect my kid from harms way (Its my job for work and home). I will support my kid in anything he wants to do inlife, and if he wants to get shot with a paintball for a sub-career, I will be there to cheer him on.

Thx you pattison (sort of), In showing this video, I never wanted to give anyone the idea of being unsafe. My son and  I just thought the video was funny, and we wanted to share with the paintball community. So everyone that views the video, please use safe practice, and use all the necessary INTENDED equipement.

DeTrevni wrote: I'm gonna have to side with Pattison on this one. You guys are overreacting...

Agreed.  Though proper safety equipment should be used while paintballing, this guy and and son are in there back yard just shooting at each other. Nothing dangerous about that.

Oh, and found this on Youtube, Paintball Mask Test, 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaPjaYIoyNY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaPjaYIoyNY

Frozen paintball Test:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKWxv6u1FIM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKWxv6u1FIM

Wow, that Paintball mask worked well!!!

(FI)K-9COP wrote: Thx to all that have posted an opinion. I'm going to do a little experiment, I'm going to take that same helmet, and point blank shoot the visor. I will also boost the FPS to about 380 (thats just before the ball burst in my barrel). After the visor holds up to that!!!! I will take a 10 FROZEN PAINTBALL, and complete the same test. Mabey that will calm the alarmmist. Probably not, but I wanted to prove my point, and the guys that think I'm a noob and shouldnt reproduce, wont have a leg to stand on.

New Video will be released later today.  GUESS WHAT!!! I WAS RIGHT!!!

well yeah of course you were right

just compare the thickness of the lens' alone, motorcycle lenses can't be removed right? this would most likely make them stronger.

motorcycle ones are made of better material (still plastic though right?)

carl_the_sniper wrote: well yeah of course you were right just compare the thickness of the lens' alone, motorcycle lenses can't be removed right? this would most likely make them stronger. motorcycle ones are made of better material (still plastic though right?)

LOL, well tell that to Mack and Justice, LOL, when I made the video, it came out great, the visor stayed together, but when I took it apart last time to clean it, I forgot to tighten the freaking screws to the helmet, so it vibrated off when I was taping, but the visor had no cracks or breaks. The video prooved my point, that my son's head was in no way in danger. That's what I was going for, "Visor with stay together". Soooooo Mack and Justice, nice try, WHO'S YOUR DADDY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Needless to say, Mack and Justice where in a way Right, only that you should wear all the necessary equipment when playing paintball. I wanted to make sure my son's throat was protected when we where making the first video, so I put a motorcycle helmet on him which covered his entire head and neck. So congratulations to Mack and Justice for reading the owners manual on safety, and leave the protection of children to the parents that have them.

both are right.

Mr. dad el poster of topic is correct that the motorcycle helmet is perfectly safe and protected his son from harm.

Mack & justic are correct that even though something CAN be used for something does mean it SHOULD be used.

in conclusion, im still using my paintball mask not a motorcycle helmet, but (Fi)k-9cop is perfectly correct in that his son was perfectly safe and he took procausion to ensure the safety of his child.

and by the way, Nice gun/video

Mack wrote: (FI)K-9COP wrote: carl_the_sniper wrote: well yeah of course you were right just compare the thickness of the lens' alone, motorcycle lenses can't be removed right? this would most likely make them stronger. motorcycle ones are made of better material (still plastic though right?) LOL, well tell that to Mack and Justice, LOL, when I made the video, it came out great, the visor stayed together, but when I took it apart last time to clean it, I forgot to tighten the freaking screws to the helmet, so it vibrated off when I was taping, but the visor had no cracks or breaks. The video prooved my point, that my son's head was in no way in danger. That's what I was going for, "Visor with stay together". Soooooo Mack and Justice, nice try, WHO'S YOUR DADDY!!!!!!!!!!!! Needless to say, Mack and Justice where in a way Right, only that you should wear all the necessary equipment when playing paintball. I wanted to make sure my son's throat was protected when we where making the first video, so I put a motorcycle helmet on him which covered his entire head and neck. So congratulations to Mack and Justice for reading the owners manual on safety, and leave the protection of children to the parents that have them.   The fact that your experiment worked doesn't make it the way things should be done or demonstrated. It also doesn't make you any less unsafe or or any more deserving of reproductive capabilities or offspring. You have to be lucky/right every time you choose to flaunt common sense and established saftey procedures (in anything) in order to avoid injury, you only have to be wrong once for bad things to happen. Hopefully, when your luck runs out there will be no innocent bystanders within collateral damage range. Oh, good thing it wasn't on your son's head when the visor vibrated off during taping or, conversely (OOO BIG WORD), good thing the screws were tight when it was on your son's head. I think you just made my point with your statements there sonny so my work here is done.

You Crack me up Mack, We all get the big picture that your promoting. People are going to do what they want regardless what they see on TV, or the internet. If your so nieve to believe that my video of my son getting shot in the head with a paintball is going to make some people go out and try the same thing, then your an idiot. People do stupid things every day without any type of influence. Obiviously everyone shouldnt watch the NEWS, because all they have on the news are stories of people getting shot/stabbed,raped,kidnapped,DUI car accident,drugs.Those stories might influence someone!!! If people are stupid enough to shoot (Paintball)each other without any protection, then that's there problem.There going to do it regardless what you and I say. The helmet that I provided my son was safe. The experiment was to show the visor would hold up against FROZEN and NON-FROZEN paintballs (that you said WOULDNT).The KEY WORD here is VISOR!!!! The experiment shows that I shot point blank 10 FROZEN balls at point blank at the visor, these where shot in FULL AUTO MODE, which I wanted to show that the visor (man, that word just keeps coming up) would be able to withstand the constant pressure of the frozen paintballs. I never did that to my son, so it's different circumstances. I single shot balls at my kid's helmet, if the ball hit the helmet visor and the visor started to vibrated off, I WOULD NOTICE IT AFTER THE SHOT, and I WOULDNT SHOOT ANYMORE!!! So once again Mack, your still a Jerry's kid! You seem like the type of person that would try to outlaw violent video games and music because it's unsafe for the public. Are you?

Thanks Snick, your gun is pretty nice looking to, did you change any internals?

(FI)K-9COP wrote: Thanks Snick, your gun is pretty nice looking to, did you change any internals?

Thanks for the compliment.

I havent bought any aftermarker stuff like a new front-bolt or new powertube or anything if thats what you mean. But I have done plenty of homedone stuff like polishing the internals and alot of trigger mods to reduce side-to-side wabble, reduce trigger pull and add internal trigger stops and such to the point my mech trigger is quasi-walkable.

pattison wrote: next thing you know there will be vids posted of some idiot wearing shop glasses.

When I first started playing paintball, the turnament rules for IPPA competition required that eye protection must be warn.  Shop goggles were on the approved list, and most players wore them.

As for Mack and Justice, you both may be guilty of FUI (Foruming Under the Influence).  Put your crackpipe's down and walk away.  The only thing you've managed to do this time around is prove your general lack of intellectual ability, and absolute failure of logical application.  By any chance, did you both attend public school?

K9-

Keep up the good work. 

Thank you very much Stormcharger . Never thought about that.

And Snick, it sounds like you have all the answers for the trigger, how do you reduce the trigger pull? How many pounds do you have your gun set at? On my service gun (Work) its about a 3 lb trigger pull, can you regulate that on a paintball gun? Sorry, I'm kinda new with interal paintball gun stuff. I can take it apart, put it back together, and thats about it. LOL

(FI)K-9COP wrote: And Snick...how do you reduce the trigger pull.......

I'll talk to you through some private messages to not clog up the forum with off-topic stuff.

Nice video, your son's face is amazing in that helmet lol

Hell, common folks, when i was a kid i kept hidding in the dryer and my dad and uncle decided to close the door on my and turn the dryer on! Damn, i even turned out quite normal also! Just stop the complaining or accusing him of being a bad father or what else: their is a lot worse out their after all... And i hightly doubt that paintball can damage the helmet... it sure as hell can't be as bad as brass eagle masks! (check out the review on pbreview..)  but i would agree on getting the kid a mask, it would be a lot more confier and safer for his neck when he runs around, throw in the proto rail with a 45/45 also!   

Anyhow, nice vid

Frank

You're welcome. 

Maybe it's me, being more than old enough to vote, but I seem to remember a time when common sense was all you needed to be safe.  Now you need special consumer alert packaging to tell you that a set of lawn darts may cause injury if used improperly.  The agony here is having to explain that a motorcycle helmet is more durable than any paintball mask. 

Video of my son playing, should I get the same gun that I have for him??? Any suggestions?