Zune launched today
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Topic: Zune launched today
Posted By: choopie911
Subject: Zune launched today
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 12:44pm
| http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/13/installing-the-zune-sucked/ - Boy...sounds great.... |
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 12:51pm
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Eeeeek.
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Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 1:06pm
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I'm pleased with my sansa. Mp3 players are nice but I'm not going to spend $100+ to listen to music. -------------  |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 1:07pm
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Meh....
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 1:09pm
| hah... i think i'll pass. |
Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 1:11pm
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HURRAY!!! DRM!!!! ------------- 
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 1:37pm
| http://faruk.newsvine.com/_news/2006/11/12/438632-zune-install-screen-raises-eyebrows - A little arousing |
Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 1:47pm
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Well then obivously they feel that sex will sell their terrible product ------------- |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 1:48pm
I love all the registration crap MS puts you through like they mentioned in that review.
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Someone From the Second Article wrote:Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 1:57pm
| Yeah, my ipod was tricky to get working...all that plugging it in. |
Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 2:14pm
The trickiest part was reading that tiny little number on the back. ------------- 
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 2:23pm
Yeah, I agree, I had my iSkin on it at the time, so I had to take it back off. Is that like a crash? |
Posted By: Jack Carver
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 3:04pm
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I think it's interesting that almost all reviews I've seen out focus on the software and the store. I really could care less. You can use iTunes as a Jukebox on your computer and use Zune's software just to sync the Zune. And who buys music, come on  From what I've heard of the device itself, it's not that bad. Anyone have any personal experience with the either? |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 3:08pm
Wow... read...thats the whole problem, the zune software apparently blows/ is full of fail. |
Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 3:09pm
god I love those iSkin's I had one for my 3Gen iPod and I need to get one for my 80G. And ya you plug it in and everything in iTune's goes onto it its tough ------------- Tuesday starts the weekend... YAYAYA!!!! CHUFF CHUFF |
Posted By: Jack Carver
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 3:21pm
| Well they're obviously going to update the software and get it working within days. Some people actually got it to install fine also, so it's not completely borked. |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 3:23pm
Yeah Choopie. This is Microsoft we are talking about here. They always put out timely updates to fix major problems. Always. ------------- 
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Posted By: Jack Carver
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 3:24pm
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 3:27pm
That justifies it? So gasoline that makes some cars explode, but makes others work (slowly) would still be pwn gas? |
Posted By: Jack Carver
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 3:29pm
| Well, you don't die when your software crashes, and I didn't say it was pwn, I'm just trying to make sure people realize that it's not a 100% failure rate, like apple fanboys would like to believe. |
Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 3:40pm
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Yeah I was gonna mention how they tried the software on other PC's and it seems to work fine. Having set up a few on display at work *BestBuy* everything went fine. I had no issues with the software and anyone and everyone who has any Microsoft product on their PC is already used to the Registration process. I have no complaints other than the fact that the Zune is a bit thicker than I thought it would be. Oh, and there are no cool ways to integrate it in to your car stereo besides an AUX jack.
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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 3:55pm
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Who wants a player full of DRM and other restrictive trash? Idiots, apparently. ------------- 
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 4:00pm
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"Songs wirelessly transferred from one Zune to another can only be played
three times. After three days, the song expires – regardless of whether
or not it has been played. Just playing half the song (or one minute,
whichever comes first) counts as one “play.” You can never resend a
song to the same friend, nor can a song received from someone else be
passed on to a third person. These limitations apply to all files,
including copyright-free self-recorded songs and similar."
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Posted By: dmp4892.
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 4:02pm
| I'll stick with iPods. |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 5:03pm
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Creative Zen Micro FTW.
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Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 5:08pm
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I went and looked at them today, the screen size is pretty sweet, and it feels more durable. I MIGHT HAVE TO BUY ONE LOL
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 5:35pm
Enos, dont forget the fact that the Zune doesnt support music downloaded from microsofts own service... |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 5:44pm
It is not just the Apple fanboys. Us Microsoft h8 boyz want you to believe it as well. |
Posted By: youm0nt
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 6:02pm
| thanks for the links.the comments are hilarious |
Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 6:31pm
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ipods ftw, no software issues + my own content = pwnsauce |
Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 6:41pm
BINGO! crippled wifi FTW! EDIT http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=194300602 - it seems more ipods and ipod nanos were sold than zunes. ------------- Hey MPAA, Guess what? 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0! |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 6:50pm
you're surprised? |
Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 6:54pm
Not really. Also, on engadget, there are several fishy comments about how good the zune is. Fishy as in microsoft using robots to make spam posts. Check it out: "My girlfriend and I both bought zunes today at Best Buy. After we installed the software (worked flawlessy on xp pro on both our notebooks). We started downloading the crap out of the marketplace with our subscriptions. I just met her a hour ago at a coffee shop and we sent each other some songs to test everything out. A bunch of people kept asking us what we were using and what the hell we were doing. It was pretty cool. I am not a big fan of the 3 x 3 plan, but if you have the subscription package on marketplace, its not a big deal at all since all songs are free (just your $15 fee per month)." There are several very similar to that, emphasizing the whole "welcome to the social" tagline. ------------- Hey MPAA, Guess what? 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0! |
Posted By: Bounty
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 7:01pm
| Im actually goin out to get one tonight, Im tired of having to buy a new ipod every year and only fit 200 songs on my 4gb piece of junk. Ive had a bad experience with ipods and right now Id rather deal with faulty software than faulty hardware. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 7:07pm
Except apple will cover it if its hardware, and it borks "every year" as you say. And stop being cheap and get something bigger than 4 gigs, or shutup and dont complain about lacking space. |
Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 7:16pm
You should get a toshiba gigabeat: s. They are about the same as a zune, but with out all the microsoft. Or buy a better ipod. ------------- Hey MPAA, Guess what? 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0! |
Posted By: Jack Carver
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 8:18pm
Yeah, it's kinda weird.... you'd think that music bought through Zune Marketplace would work on the Zune. Oh wait  |
Posted By: Bounty
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 8:43pm
I thought about getting an ipod but apple didnt do anything about the hardware problem when I asked them to fix it. This happened twice. My battery constantly dies at random times on the first and second ipods Ive owned and everyone else has the same problems with them. Why would I buy a new more expensive ipod if the ones Ive had didnt work. Wheres the logic in that? |
Posted By: super_gman
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 8:48pm
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You don't need to get a new iPod every year. Just get one larger than 4 gigs and hang on to it for several years. I have a 4th gen one that I have had very few issues with since I got it 2 and a half years ago. ------------- Zerglet. |
Posted By: Bounty
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 8:56pm
I didnt get a new one every year because they didnt hold enough songs, I got new ones because they kept breaking. Battery problems mainly (randomly turned off, life kept getting shorter, etc) and and in one instance never turned back on again. I have to say I love itunes though, possibly the best music service out there. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 9:00pm
| I have 4th gen 20 gig, and its only recently starting to have problems, which could very well be caused by my headphones. Kinda sucks, but I'm planning on upgrading anyways. |
Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 9:32pm
He was probably referring to MSN music downloads. ------------- <Removed sig for violation of Clause 4 of the New Sig Rules> 
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Posted By: Jack Carver
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 9:38pm
Yeah I was just being a smart-ass about it. Sorry 
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Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 10:01pm
My third gen 15g ipod is still ticking (literally  ), I may replace the battery even.
And for awhile, I thought I'd replace it with the Zune, just cause I think the brown one is dead sexy. But now... |
Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 10:03pm
...you dont want a turd? ------------- Hey MPAA, Guess what? 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0! |
Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 10:05pm
And I really don't care about the wireless at all. |
Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 10:25pm
Yeah me too. If it had full wifi (as in internet and more) i might have thought about it.... ...but then again, it IS a microsoft product... ------------- Hey MPAA, Guess what? 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0! |
Posted By: kickinwing2010
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 10:43pm
ok first off everthing has its problems....and i mean everything even apple makes mistakes. but the first question is how much did you use your first ipods with the messed up batteries and whe you got it did you charge it all the way and then let the battery die all the way. If not thats part of your problem and your own fault because you didnt let the ipod orientate its self. also you only fit 200 songs on your for gig are you retarded that is literaly a fraction of the space a 4 gig has i myself have 600 songs on mine and it says im a little over half way full. Honestly i also have to say if you cant figure your ipod out (i mean come on my grandma can figure her ipod out) then how are you going to deal with all the software problems on you zune. By the way last little not if you think your ipod has to few songs then imagine half of those on your zune because you have to fill the rest of it up with patches ------------- 
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 10:50pm
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Does it not Sync with WMP as a PlaysforSure device? I must say I do see quite a bit of Microsoft bashing in this thread, especially from people who haven't used the Zune at all. Chewp, does it really take every reply being negative, sarcastic and full of spite to make you feel secure? Apple will always sell more mp3 players than Microsoft will. Fact is someone came out with a device and you are all dogging it before you or anyone here gets to use one and report first hand. I think the screen size is neat and the wireless transfer would have been nice if they didn't DRM the hell out of the files. But let's focus here, you can send pictures to other people and keep them however long you want/view them as much as you want. Let's keep an open mind and let the product perform before shutting it out, ok guys?
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 11:02pm
But... ...that goes against the elitist nature. We simply can't do that.
I'm pretty sure I had to type a few things. I may as well have stomped on it. ------------- 
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Posted By: Jack Carver
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 11:04pm
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No, it won't work with PlaysForSure, and that's what a lot of the negativity has been about. But Zune Marketplace has it's own rental-service, so couldn't those people just cancel their PFS subscription and get a "Zune Pass" and re-download everything. Is that what you'd have to do? I admit I don't really bother to figure out how the subscription stuff works. It would be a hassle too. |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 11:08pm
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I won't own a Zune just for all the DRM hell they put you through. Not to be an ass, but I will not pay someone to listen to music I have(legal or not). DRM angers me, but I woud like to test one and see what the hardware is about. -------------
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 11:25pm
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Does it not Sync with TV as a Recording device? I must say I do see
quite a bit of RCA bashing in this thread, especially from people
who haven't used the VCR at all. FreshpPrince does it really take every
reply being negative, sarcastic and full of spite to make you feel
secure? Zenith will always sell more VCR's than RCA will.
Fact is someone came out with a device and you are all dogging it
before you or anyone here gets to use one and report first hand. I
think the screen size is neat and the wireless transfer would have been
nice if they didn't fail the hell out of the tape. But let's focus
here, you can send tape to other people and keep them however long
you want/view them as much as you want. Let's keep an open mind and let
the product perform before shutting it out, ok guys?
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Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 11:34pm
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I saw one today and messed with it, it was pwn. That is all.
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Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 9:50am
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I changed my mind....
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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 9:54am
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Who actualy uses CD players any more? Let alone JVC, Junk Vexing Crap. Honestly. ------------- |
Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 10:09am
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It's sarcasm buddy. Either way I still don't see the point in spending all of that money on an audio device. The most I've spent was 60 bucks on my 2 gig sansa the one I have now, same one I've had for a year. ------------- |
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 1:44pm
Epic win! -------------
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 1:53pm
| http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=104 - Zune doesnt work on vista? |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 2:01pm
Yeah who would imagine an OS in the RC2 stage would have incompatibility... 
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Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 2:05pm
I almost got this instead of upgrading to the 80G ipod but ipod's are too cool
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Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 2:47pm
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So, not to siderail the current topic but choopie mentioned windows vista, does anyone know when that comes out? And what are your opinions of it as of now? ------------- |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 3:40pm
I've heard good and bad things. Some use it all the time and say its good, my friend down the hall ran it for a while, hated it, and went back to xp. I guess its a personal preference thing. Google should have launch dates for you |
Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 3:43pm
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Cool, my laptop says windows vista capable and I have no idea what I should get for christmas so maybe a new OS would be a nice gift. I'll research it some more. ------------- |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 3:50pm
A pony. |
Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 4:01pm
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I got that last year ------------- |
Posted By: youm0nt
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 5:21pm
haha wow wicked old |
Posted By: TheSpookyKids87
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 6:06pm
| I frogot about portable CD players. I haven't seen mine in a couple of months. |
Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 6:15pm
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I think the Zune looks pretty awesome: music, photos, video, wifi, a nice display, and *almost* as compact as the iPod. It's just DRM and the fact that it's made by Microsoft that kills it. I'd have to say I agree with HV. ------------- 
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Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 6:31pm
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Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 7:42pm
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Also, the zune software is total hell. Engadget said there are so many stupid limitations, like you cant listen to the zune while it is plugged in, and you have to replug the zune after a transfer if you want to change somthing, it sucks down way to many cpu cycles, crashes every 3 minutes, uber slow transfer speed, ect The software takes up ~175 megs of ram, and adds 3 processes to your machine. Its amazing Apple can write a better program for windows than microsft can. ------------- Hey MPAA, Guess what? 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0! |
Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 9:40pm
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I still use my cd players, when I get new cds and am to lazy to put them on my comp and then on my mp3 player it's a nice thing to have. ------------- |
Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 11:03pm
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 11:18pm
While the Zune has built-in WiFi capabilities, it can only connect to other Zune devices; it can't wirelessly sync with its host PC, nor can it wirelessly connect to the internet and download new music via a Wi-Fi hotspot. -------------
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Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 11:28pm
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 11:38pm
Meanwhile the iPod can connect to what wirelessly? -------------
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 16 November 2006 at 1:02am
Boy I sure wish I had not said it did... Oh yeah thats right, I didn't. Damn shame, no? -------------
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 16 November 2006 at 1:06am
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I wasn't quoting you saying it, I asked a question. Thanks for avoiding it.. I'll go ahead and answer, it can't. -------------
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 16 November 2006 at 1:11am
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Its ok. I will trade less-than-spectacular WiFi for far superior (and working mind you) software. Deal? -------------
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 16 November 2006 at 1:15am
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I don't even require software for my Creative media player. Deal? -------------
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 16 November 2006 at 1:16am
But it is made from pure ugly. No Deal Howie. -------------
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 16 November 2006 at 1:18am
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Well now we are straying from established fact and treading on pure opinion..
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 16 November 2006 at 1:23am
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No, it is fact. Scientists proved it. Creative products are made from 76.3% ugly.
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Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 16 November 2006 at 9:32am
Well on the one hand I wasn't acutally trying to say that cd players are better than mp3 players, I'm not a tard. But yes when I get a new cd it's nice to have a cd player lying around so I can slap it in there. ------------- |
Posted By: ekeboo
Date Posted: 16 November 2006 at 10:00am
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All i know is that ive thrashed the poopy out of my little 2g nano thing and it still works. hell im trying to break it so i get a nice new shiny one. 2 year warranty -------------  
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Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 16 November 2006 at 10:03am
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Don't break it, those warrenties don't cover pyshical damage, I did the same thing and got screwed over so bad with my creative. ------------- |
Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 16 November 2006 at 10:27am
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if you want to break it put your iPod near a powerful magnet. It should erase everything on it, they might give you a new one for that. iPod> every other mp3 player on the market ------------- Tuesday starts the weekend... YAYAYA!!!! CHUFF CHUFF |
Posted By: Jack Carver
Date Posted: 16 November 2006 at 2:57pm
You've tried every single mp3 player on the market?? Your parents must have a lot of spare cash... |