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Topic: Wii vs PS3 vs 360
Posted By: CarbineKid
Subject: Wii vs PS3 vs 360
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 10:08pm
So now that all three systems are out...is there a clear winner? Which do you like better?



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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 10:10pm
You can't compare the wii to a ps3 or xbox 360.

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Posted By: Funky
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 10:11pm
Where's the 2001 Okama Gamesphere?!

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Posted By: a5Tpp789
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 10:12pm
wii

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Posted By: dmp4892.
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 10:17pm
Well, making generalizations:
Wii = best gaming/user experience
PS3 = best computing power
Xbox 360 = best online experience


Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 10:23pm
Originally posted by a5Tpp789 a5Tpp789 wrote:

wii

I'm sure i'll get hell for this, but i like the ps3.  The graphics are great, and most gameply i have seen looks very fun.

...Although i must applaud nintendo for their straight innovation, and making an uber small console.

I think the xbox 360 was a mistake by microsoft.  They could have  waited and made a truly stellar console, but they had to try to get a head start.

$400 for the 360 with the hard drive and wireless controler
$200 for the external usb HDDVD drive(hddvd sucks btw)
$100 for the wireless adaptor
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$700 when the $600 ps3 has more features and power(like HDMI/digital out), as well as teh blu-ray

Frankly i dont care if the ps3 or wii win as long as the 360 is left in the dust.


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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 10:41pm
The only way you can tell who the clear winner was is by waiting till the next round of consoles are released....

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Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 10:41pm
I would say taking money out of the situation and just going on which is better I would say PS3>Wii>Xbox360... just my opinion i think the Wii and PS3 have both made steps to create something new and great with there systems.. 360 did nothing to impress me they just made a xbox with a bit better graphics and they really are not that much better

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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 10:48pm
I haven't played the Wii or PS3 yet, but based purely on what I've heard about the others, I would have to say that the XBOX 360 wins it.

Some of you Wii guys will explode on me for this, but think about it.

The controller is an awesome innovation, I can't doubt that. The size and price of the console should set a standard for the next years.

But the thing is, people think that the motion controllers guarantee a good experience. Yes it grabs interest from the older crowd. Yes it makes some games more realistic to play. But as many say, it's not all that great. Again, this is from what I HEARD, I will know better what I am talking about as I play more. Supposedly there are a few games out that are really frustrating to play with the controller. Many do not offer compatability with the "classic" controller or gamecube controller.

Same goes for the PS3. Graphics are a strong point, and many good games are coming out for the console, but unless it has strong online gaming, it will not compare to the 360. The price is insane.

The 360 has good graphics, online games, a decent amount of features, and a price that can be justified by what the console offers.

I will make better judgement after I get my hands on the consoles.


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Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 10:59pm
Originally posted by Tolgak Tolgak wrote:

I haven't played the Wii or PS3 yet, but based purely on what I've heard about the others, I would have to say that the XBOX 360 wins it.

Some of you Wii guys will explode on me for this, but think about it.

The controller is an awesome innovation, I can't doubt that. The size and price of the console should set a standard for the next years.

But the thing is, people think that the motion controllers guarantee a good experience. Yes it grabs interest from the older crowd. Yes it makes some games more realistic to play. But as many say, it's not all that great. Again, this is from what I HEARD, I will know better what I am talking about as I play more. Supposedly there are a few games out that are really frustrating to play with the controller. Many do not offer compatability with the "classic" controller or gamecube controller.

Same goes for the PS3. Graphics are a strong point, and many good games are coming out for the console, but unless it has strong online gaming, it will not compare to the 360. The price is insane.

The 360 has good graphics, online games, a decent amount of features, and a price that can be justified by what the console offers.

I will make better judgement after I get my hands on the consoles.

I agree with you. I think the Wii is a great innovation, but I think that having to swirl and tilt and wobble will get old. Good for split screen, but I can't play like that mindlessly for an hour to get my mind off things. And among consoles, Xbox Live has yet to be challenged, so the 360 is my choice for now (they could have done much better by including HDDVD standard an an HDMI port).


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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 12:05am
Xbox because I own one.


Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 12:06am
Originally posted by Hysteria Hysteria wrote:

Xbox because I own one.
That's usually what people will say.

It's hard to get an unbiased review.


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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 12:19am
Originally posted by Roll Tide Roll Tide wrote:

Originally posted by Tolgak Tolgak wrote:

I haven't played the Wii or PS3 yet, but based purely on what I've heard about the others, I would have to say that the XBOX 360 wins it.

Some of you Wii guys will explode on me for this, but think about it.

The controller is an awesome innovation, I can't doubt that. The size and price of the console should set a standard for the next years.

But the thing is, people think that the motion controllers guarantee a good experience. Yes it grabs interest from the older crowd. Yes it makes some games more realistic to play. But as many say, it's not all that great. Again, this is from what I HEARD, I will know better what I am talking about as I play more. Supposedly there are a few games out that are really frustrating to play with the controller. Many do not offer compatability with the "classic" controller or gamecube controller.

Same goes for the PS3. Graphics are a strong point, and many good games are coming out for the console, but unless it has strong online gaming, it will not compare to the 360. The price is insane.

The 360 has good graphics, online games, a decent amount of features, and a price that can be justified by what the console offers.

I will make better judgement after I get my hands on the consoles.

I agree with you. I think the Wii is a great innovation, but I think that having to swirl and tilt and wobble will get old. Good for split screen, but I can't play like that mindlessly for an hour to get my mind off things. And among consoles, Xbox Live has yet to be challenged, so the 360 is my choice for now (they could have done much better by including HDDVD standard an an HDMI port).

Yeah let me tell you, having to tilt a conrtoller is the ONLY way to play any game on the Wii...

It isn't just because I own one and love it to death, your ignorance troubles me. NES games can be played with the remote(turned sideways to resemble the classic NES controller) without swinging it about to make Zelda attack things.. SNES games require the classic controller(I still haven't found one to purchase) I believe, that thing isn't motion sensitive at all.

When you look at it this way, Mario Tennis sucked IMO because you played a pysical game with what, button taps and analog stick movement... I enjoy the hell out of Wii Sports tennis because I have more control over the movement and I get to move more than my thumbs. CoD 3 is very hard to get used to, but again I think the new control methods allow greater accuracy in movement. You mention moving around would get boring, how about continuing what we've done with consoles for years.. moving thumbs.. Yeah, same old style sounds a bit more boring to me.

To each his own, but you can only remake the same consoles so many times before they get old, taking a new approach such as the Wii's interactivity, is a breath of fresh air in the stale next gen console market.


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Posted By: blackdog144
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 12:22am
360 beats all...then its the wii...the ps3 isnt even on my list...

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 12:28am
Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:

Originally posted by Hysteria Hysteria wrote:

Xbox because I own one.
That's usually what people will say.

It's hard to get an unbiased review.
unbiased review is an oxymoron

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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 12:38am
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Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 7:44am
people that like 360's are people that own them and they haven't figured out that you can do everything on a PC that you can on a 360 you can even have the same controller if you want... and for people that say the price for a PS3 is too much an xbox 360 is 300 or 400 and PS3 is 500 or 600 and the PS3 has better everything except online which see above why that isn't important

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Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 8:22am
I'm sticking with my Mattel Electronics Intellivision II.




Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 8:44am

I'd say the wii for it's price and the revolutionary new way of playing. I used to be a big sony fanatic and I own all three of the previous gen consoles, but the wii is first on my list this time around. As stated by mbro though you really have to wait until the next gen consoles to decide the winner of this gen. Come to think about it a better topic might be gamecube vs ps2 vs xbox



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Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 8:50am
Originally posted by Galm </\> Zero Galm </\> Zero wrote:

I'd say the wii for it's price and the revolutionary new way of playing. I used to be a big sony fanatic and I own all three of the previous gen consoles, but the wii is first on my list this time around. As stated by mbro though you really have to wait until the next gen consoles to decide the winner of this gen. Come to think about it a better topic might be gamecube vs ps2 vs xbox



owned all three gamecube for fun drunk games and ps2 for all around best system... xbox had a  little better graphics


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Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 8:52am
that's pretty much what I was thinking mostly the gamecube for drunk gameing bit.

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Posted By: XenoSabre
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 10:54am
Originally posted by Tolgak Tolgak wrote:

I haven't played the Wii or PS3 yet, but based purely on what I've heard about the others, I would have to say that the XBOX 360 wins it.
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Some of you Wii guys will explode on me for this, but think about it.The controller is an awesome innovation, I can't doubt that.
True.
The size and price of the console should set a standard for the next years.
Wrong, PS3 has proved that you can have a successful launch even if your price is well above the compeition's and the recommended price range for game consoles. Mark my words... Console prices will only go up from here on out, manufacturers will continue to push the price boundary. don't be surprised if the next generation consoles are priced somewhere close to $1000
But the thing is, people think that the motion controllers guarantee a good experience. Yes it grabs interest from the older crowd. Yes it makes some games more realistic to play. But as many say, it's not all that great.
Agreed, I think it will get old. I've gotta admire Sony's approach with adding motion sensing functionality (whether they ripped it off the wii or not) as a supplement to their controller and not base their whole design around it.
Again, this is from what I HEARD, I will know better what I am talking about as I play more. Supposedly there are a few games out that are really frustrating to play with the controller. Many do not offer compatability with the "classic" controller or gamecube controller.
Its gonna take some getting used too. the technology is in place but the developers aren't utilizing it all that well at the moment. This is virgin territory for many studios, its only natural that they have these problems.
Same goes for the PS3. Graphics are a strong point, and many good games are coming out for the console, but unless it has strong online gaming, it will not compare to the 360.
Well said, luckily it looks like Sony is preparing to match most of if not all of the services that MS offers with XB LIVE and then some. Best of all, ITS FREE!
The price is insane.The 360 has good graphics, online games, a decent amount of features, and a price that can be justified by what the console offers.
Yep, I think MS is Sony's only real competitor this generation. Its gonna depend on who can "wow" the developers the most (ie: who gets the most third party support).
I will make better judgement after I get my hands on the consoles.
Same here. For right now though, it looks like Sony will come out on top again.


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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 12:31pm
Xeno, I wouldn't call it a successful launch if you lose money on each console you sold...

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Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 1:21pm
well 360 lost money on every console they sold also... and almost everytime any company launches a system they lose money on each console but they make up money on games and accessories... and why does it make it bad if they are loosing money that means they dropped the price so people could actually buy it

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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 1:43pm
I see you haven't taken Economics... Losing money != profit. Not making profit is bad for a company, especially Sony since they just suffered from those massive battery recalls.

Nintendo isn't losing money on any part of the Wii. They make money on the sale of the console itself, games, accessories etc.


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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 1:48pm
The Wii looks like an over-clocked Gamecube with a fancy controller. I'm not going to say any more on that since I haven't played it yet.

I've never been a fan of Playstation. Never owned one, and I don't think PS3 is going to change that.

I AM going to buy an XBox 360 as soon as I start getting checks from my new job. Games like Dead Rising, Oblivion, and (dare I say it?) Halo 3 are the reason I want the 360. Playstation always seems to have an emphasis on their sports games and not so much FPS games, which is the opposite of what I want.
I am more than satisfied with my XBox, and I can't wait to get my hands on a 360 now that (hopefully) most of the bugs are worked out and the price is somewhat lower.

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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 2:25pm
I like to shoot, therefore I like the X-Box 360 more. The thing with PS3 is that I never like PS. Almost all the games PS had eventually came out for X-Box, and I don't think thats really going to change. But I do want to try the next Kill-Zone, but most likely I can rent it and borrow a PS console from a friend.


Posted By: sporx
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 2:35pm
I can't give my opinion because I haven't played a PS3 or a Wii yet. All my
knowledge over the PS3 and Wii is just information from mags, online info,
and basically other people's views.

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Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 2:37pm

Halo>Killzone

I thought that killzone would be a nice replacment for halo when all I had was the ps2, it wasn't don't get me wrong it's cool but there was just something missing.



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Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 2:40pm
Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

I see you haven't taken Economics... Losing money != profit. Not making profit is bad for a company, especially Sony since they just suffered from those massive battery recalls.

Nintendo isn't losing money on any part of the Wii. They make money on the sale of the console itself, games, accessories etc.


yes i have taken economics and just because you are losing money in certain area doesn't mean you can't make money over all take microsoft they lost money on each system and they still turn huge profits as an over all company this last quarter... and in the long run the loss of money on the system wont hurt sony... if the the ps3 takes off then they will make money on blu-ray movies, games, and accessories... I have no idea what nintendo is doing per console but these companies have been doing this for a while I think they might know what they are doing


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Posted By: XenoSabre
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 3:11pm
Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

Not making profit is bad for a company, especially Sony since they just suffered from those massive battery recalls.


Long-term gains outweigh short-term losses for most of these companies.

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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 3:43pm
Originally posted by XenoSabre XenoSabre wrote:

Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

Not making profit is bad for a company, especially Sony since they just suffered from those massive battery recalls.


Long-term gains outweigh short-term losses for most of these companies.

Yes, I am aware and never said it would end the company. But let's hope they don't have anything else go wrong like the battery recall because too many short-term losses can be rather detrimental to the company.

I like Nintendo's stance, long-term and short-term gains.


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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 3:57pm
Wii>360>PS3

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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 5:16pm
HALO 3>*

LIFE.


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Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 5:21pm
Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:


I agree with you. I think the Wii is a great innovation, but I think that having to swirl and tilt and wobble will get old. Good for split screen, but I can't play like that mindlessly for an hour to get my mind off things. And among consoles, Xbox Live has yet to be challenged, so the 360 is my choice for now (they could have done much better by including HDDVD standard an an HDMI port).

Yeah let me tell you, having to tilt a conrtoller is the ONLY way to play any game on the Wii...

It isn't just because I own one and love it to death, your ignorance troubles me. NES games can be played with the remote(turned sideways to resemble the classic NES controller) without swinging it about to make Zelda attack things.. SNES games require the classic controller(I still haven't found one to purchase) I believe, that thing isn't motion sensitive at all.

When you look at it this way, Mario Tennis sucked IMO because you played a pysical game with what, button taps and analog stick movement... I enjoy the hell out of Wii Sports tennis because I have more control over the movement and I get to move more than my thumbs. CoD 3 is very hard to get used to, but again I think the new control methods allow greater accuracy in movement. You mention moving around would get boring, how about continuing what we've done with consoles for years.. moving thumbs.. Yeah, same old style sounds a bit more boring to me.

To each his own, but you can only remake the same consoles so many times before they get old, taking a new approach such as the Wii's interactivity, is a breath of fresh air in the stale next gen console market.
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I realize that swinging around isn't the only way to play on the Wii, but if you use a regular controller you lose the appeal of the Wii. I think you would agree that without the motion controllers, the Wii would be an upgraded Gamecube.

I never doubted the initial fun factor of the Wii, as I imagine there isn't much more fun than Wii sports with some buddies. I just don't know how long the Wii's appeal will last, which is why I'm skeptical of getting one. I'm not going to buy something that I play for 3 months and put it up on a dusty shelf. I use my 360 a ton: with friends, by myself, on XBL and so on.

I wouldn't call it ignorance, just being a skeptic.


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Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 5:30pm
Wii60

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Posted By: lilsully4
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 7:37pm
i have yet to dicide..i think they are all good and bad, the 360 for its price, the wii for its non onlineness...and the 360 for all the recalls gets me paranoid.. but i think im going to go for the 360 cuz of the games and cuz of the XBL

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Posted By: benttwig33
Date Posted: 21 November 2006 at 7:32pm
Originally posted by procarbinefreak procarbinefreak wrote:

N64


QFT

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Posted By: Destruction
Date Posted: 21 November 2006 at 7:41pm
I'm hoping to have all three by the end of the year.

Circuit city hookups = Wii for $75, PS3 for $100 and XBox 360 somewhere between those two prices.

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Posted By: glazener24
Date Posted: 21 November 2006 at 7:41pm
360>Wii>PS3, IMO. But I love Xbox live so...


Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 21 November 2006 at 7:52pm
Roll Tide, I bought the Wii to be able to play mario again. I dreaded the motion controller initially because I didn't want to point at the screen for my games. I hate CoD 3 on the Wii for just that reason, if you point too far to one side, the guy keeps turning because the remote isn't being picked up on screen.

My fascination with the Wii is all the old games I will be able to play again. Yes, I love Wii Sports now because it feels just like the sport you are playing, so the motion controlled gameplay has won me over to a degree. Not to mention, Enos and I are making/sharing a lot of Mii's. That's entertaining in its own right.


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Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 21 November 2006 at 8:00pm
So why don't you use the classic controller?

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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 21 November 2006 at 8:01pm

One thing that I already hate about the PS3 is the fact that Sonys biggest strength with the PS3, and everyones opinion is that it has UB3R AW3$0M3 GR4XIS THAT TOTALLY PWN HD BLU-RAY UP3R PWN OMG.

Who cares about graphics? When NES came out all there was was a few dots and eveyone loved it.

Yes, Graphics are cool, Graphics are nice. I dont need all the fancy cool overpriced Asian graphic crap that the PS3 comes with. Im fine with my 360 graphics. Heck, Gamecube graphics are enough for me.

Me? Id rather have my 360 any day. I never had the Original Xbox, so I can play all three Halos, try that on your PS3. Also, all the games that were schuduled for the PS3 relase were made for the 360 anyway, because it is alot easier to make a game for the 360 than it is the PS3. Finally, Oblivion pwns and its only on the 360 and PC. I wouldnt mind buying a 360 if Oblivion was the only game avalible (And the next Elder Scrolls too).



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Date Posted: 21 November 2006 at 8:02pm
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 21 November 2006 at 8:04pm
Originally posted by Galm </\> Zero Galm </\> Zero wrote:

So why don't you use the classic controller?

You don't even know what I'm talking about do you?


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Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 21 November 2006 at 8:07pm
Your talking about the wiimote? I'm saying use the classic controller

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Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 21 November 2006 at 8:09pm
Wait you can't use that for wii games?

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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 21 November 2006 at 8:38pm
I got my hands on a PS3 yesterday. I played a demo of Motorstorm and NBA 07. The graphics seem to be a significant improvement over the 360 and already the developers are starting to take advantage of the power the PS3 has. I don't care if the 360 has better power or not. The launch games for the PS3 have way better graphics than current games on the 360. Yes, the 360 has some games which take advantage of that too, but it doesn't seem like (at the moment) developers are willing to take it as far on the 360 as they will be with the PS3.

The tilt functionality is great. Some games fall short with controls. Having the tilt function allows one to be slightly more immersed in a game (depends on the type of game it is) and will allow more commands to be done without going through combinations and stuff. This is a definate plus.

As for rumble, I miss it. I'd like to be able to feel differences in terrain or when I'm being shot at or something.

The controller is too small for my hands. It's nice for the palms to be able to rest on the arms of a controller like the 360.

I can understand some complaints with the lower shoulder buttons of the handle. Though my fingers never slipped completely off, I got close to it and if I was sweating I pworbably would have slipped a few times.

The interface is nice. I didn't check out the photo functionality or music, but I have to say that I actually like the menu system. It's extremely straightforward and even though there is a lot of scrolling to do, I would prefer it to the 360's menu, which requires excessive maneuvering to get to some functions.


For me I think the PS3 would be more worth it compared to the 360. I'll have to see later when I have a chance to play full verson games that better suit my interests.

I haven't seen any Wii displays yet. Considering that I liked the tilt sensing on the PS3, I probably would like the sensor of the Wii as well. The fewer buttons will be somewhat of a concern though.


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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 21 November 2006 at 10:41pm
Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

Who cares about graphics? When NES came out all there was was a few dots and eveyone loved it.


Heres how it works. People our age, who were around for the original NES think this way.

But sony and microsoft have figured out an easy low-risk way to sell consoles and make money. They just cram in a bazillion new "features" and more "ub3r gfx" and its a guaranteed sale to the new-school kiddie crowd. Theyre more interested in graphics than gameplay, and thats sad as hell.

Ive always said it and Ill continue to say it. PC games innovate, consoles immitate, with the sole exception of Nintendo.

If I want to play a FPS, Ill play on my PC. If I want to play an RTS game, Ill play on my PC. If I want online games and voice chat and other stuff, yeah, Ill play on my PC. Why would I ever want to limit myself to crappy controls, limited online functionality, and pay microshaft just to use their online trash? Answer, I wouldnt.

I play consoles for games that dont go over well on PC. Platformers, driving games, adventure games. Hence, I own the Wii.

I dont need to pay $600 for a system that plays "Yet Another WW2 Shooter #54690" or "Yet Another Over-Sensitive Driving Game #6593" or "Yet Another Overhyped Sci-Fi Shooter #4547"

Seriously, dont you "hardcore gamers" ever wake up and see that 90% of games on consoles are rehashed formula crap? Wouldnt you rather see something different for a change? 


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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 21 November 2006 at 10:56pm
I disagree that FPS's on PC are better. I don't like using a mouse to aim at all, and I just don't like using a keyboard to control my character. I'd rather have the sticks and buttons. Multiplayer is just easier on a console too.

The only game I'm even playing on my computer right now is Dawn of War: Winter Assault.
I think the only reason I'll buy a Wii is to play the new Zelda when it comes out.

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Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 21 November 2006 at 11:21pm
Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

One thing that I already hate about the PS3 is the fact that Sonys biggest strength with the PS3, and everyones opinion is that it has UB3R AW3$0M3 GR4XIS THAT TOTALLY PWN HD BLU-RAY UP3R PWN OMG.

Who cares about graphics? When NES came out all there was was a few dots and eveyone loved it.

Yes, Graphics are cool, Graphics are nice. I dont need all the fancy cool overpriced Asian graphic crap that the PS3 comes with. Im fine with my 360 graphics. Heck, Gamecube graphics are enough for me.

Me? Id rather have my 360 any day. I never had the Original Xbox, so I can play all three Halos, try that on your PS3. Also, all the games that were schuduled for the PS3 relase were made for the 360 anyway, because it is alot easier to make a game for the 360 than it is the PS3. Finally, Oblivion pwns and its only on the 360 and PC. I wouldnt mind buying a 360 if Oblivion was the only game avalible (And the next Elder Scrolls too).


Umm.. Oblivion will be coming out for the PS3 as well.


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Posted By: XenoSabre
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 12:21am
Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:


I dont need to pay $600 for a system that plays "Yet Another WW2 Shooter #54690" or "Yet Another Over-Sensitive Driving Game #6593" or "Yet Another Overhyped Sci-Fi Shooter #4547"Seriously, dont you "hardcore gamers" ever wake up and see that 90% of games on consoles are rehashed formula crap? Wouldnt you rather see something different for a change?


Some of us exclusively play RPGs. I think every game I own, with the exception of the Ace Combat games, are RPGs... and when was the last time you played a great RPG on PC? Been a while, huh? Anyway, right now most of the good RPGs are going to Sony, so for me, that's where the party's at.

BTW guys... Halo is the most overated series ever created.

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Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 12:24am
Originally posted by XenoSabre XenoSabre wrote:

BTW guys... Halo is the most overated series ever created.


uh.....

no?


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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 12:30am
Originally posted by pb125 pb125 wrote:

Originally posted by XenoSabre XenoSabre wrote:

BTW guys... Halo is the most overated series ever created.


uh.....

no?

lol, and the fanboys come crawling from the woodwork...

Galm, each Wii game has a little picture up in the top right corner on the back of the box(just like N64 and Gamecube games) of the controllers you use to play it.


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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 12:34am
Originally posted by XenoSabre XenoSabre wrote:


Some of us exclusively play RPGs. I think every game I own, with the exception of the Ace Combat games, are RPGs... and when was the last time you played a great RPG on PC? Been a while, huh? Anyway, right now most of the good RPGs are going to Sony, so for me, that's where the party's at.


 True, I should have included JapRPGs in console strengths. Boy did Nintendo screw the pooch in an epic fashion when they let Square take FF7 to Sony...

 But about PC RPGs. Uhh...Oblivion? Morrowwind? Pretty much any other in the Arena series. Might and Magic? Dungeon Siege (Weak on mechanics, but it was still fun), not to mention MMORPG's. If you want to genre-mashup, System Shock and Deus Ex fit as well.



Quote BTW guys... Halo is the most overated series ever created.


God if that isnt the truest statement ever. Halo was an incredible anachronistic rape of a game, but microsoft dumped enough money into it to make every 13 year old on the planet a fanboy.


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Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 12:40am
I wonder how well an MMORPG would do on Xbox Live. That could be pretty fun.


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Posted By: XenoSabre
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 12:43am
Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:


But about PC RPGs. Uhh...Oblivion? Morrowwind? Pretty much any other in the Arena series. Might and Magic? Dungeon Siege (Weak on mechanics, but it was still fun), not to mention MMORPG's. If you want to genre-mashup, System Shock and Deus Ex fit as well.


Well technically, most of those games are available on consoles... but yeah, they are good so I'll give you that one. I wasn't counting MMORPGs... that market is pretty flooded at the moment , although there are a few that stand out (FFXI, WoW, Guild Wars). I tend to play solo, and that entirely defeats the purpose of an MMO... so they aren't really my thing.

Originally posted by Roll Tide Roll Tide wrote:

I wonder how well an MMORPG would do on Xbox Live. That could be pretty fun.


Final Fantasy XI is available on 360... not sure if it uses XB LIVE in any way though. Gameplay is done through PlayOnline's servers. Fable 2 may have some online stuff...or maybe not, thats just speculation on my part.

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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 12:50am
Originally posted by XenoSabre XenoSabre wrote:


Well technically, most of those games are available on consoles...


But they were PC games originally. Designed for an honest to god mouse and keyboard and scalable hardware. They only got ported because consoles are all the rage these days.

I certainly dont argue that consoles do single player RPGs very good. Square is about the best in the business, but any multiplayer and PC takes it...

The MMORPG market is definately glutted. Its a shame Blizzard started leaning twords the "safe formula MMO" style after WoW became such a huge hit. The whole reason it became a hit in the first place is they took a chance on breaking the cliche formula.


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Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 12:52am


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Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 12:52am
Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

Originally posted by pb125 pb125 wrote:

Originally posted by XenoSabre XenoSabre wrote:

BTW guys... Halo is the most overated series ever created.


uh.....

no?

lol, and the fanboys come crawling from the woodwork...




Hardly. I've never played a minute of halo live, but Halo is just amazing.

In other news, my wii will be here tomorrow.


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Posted By: Destruction
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 1:33am
Halo seems really bleak to me.

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Posted By: Koolit32
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 2:32am
wii ftw


Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:32am
Originally posted by pb125 pb125 wrote:

Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

Originally posted by pb125 pb125 wrote:

Originally posted by XenoSabre XenoSabre wrote:

BTW guys... Halo is the most overated series ever created.


uh.....

no?

lol, and the fanboys come crawling from the woodwork...




Hardly. I've never played a minute of halo live, but Halo is just amazing.

In other news, my wii will be here tomorrow.


sorry but halo is horrible, single player mode was repetitive and the story line was horrible. The only reason anyway buys that game is to play multi player, which I will admit is fun but not worth the price of the game to just play multi player


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Posted By: lilsully4
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 9:20am

well in my opinion i would have to say that it goes 360>Wii>/<My PC>ps3.  I have played a 360 and am soon to own one, i just think they are better, the Wii seems so inovated w/ the new controlers and the way you can play old games and play gameqube games, but the wii has no online, but i hear Zelda is sweet.  My PC is my friend, my favorite game has to be Delta Force Black Hawk Down, it has a great online game.  But my PC can't upgrade it's video card, I have tried w/ 3 differnt vid-cards, and none of them work and i am planin on selling them,  So i cant play new games like Age Of Empior III or Company Of heros, The PS3 is so much it scares me away and i could never spend that much on it so i dont plan. Thats my opinion in all



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Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 11:49am
Originally posted by lilsully4 lilsully4 wrote:

well in my opinion i would have to say that it goes 360>Wii>/<My PC>ps3.  I have played a 360 and am soon to own one, i just think they are better, the Wii seems so inovated w/ the new controlers and the way you can play old games and play gameqube games, but the wii has no online, but i hear Zelda is sweet.  My PC is my friend, my favorite game has to be Delta Force Black Hawk Down, it has a great online game.  But my PC can't upgrade it's video card, I have tried w/ 3 differnt vid-cards, and none of them work and i am planin on selling them,  So i cant play new games like Age Of Empior III or Company Of heros, The PS3 is so much it scares me away and i could never spend that much on it so i dont plan. Thats my opinion in all



its 100 dollars more and its better


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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 11:56am

PS3 fails because it dont have HDMI. I perfer Xbox for halo and that its HD.



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Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 12:04pm
PS3 specs straight from Sony's website

AV Output
Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI**: HDMI out - (x1 / HDMI)
Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1
Blu-ray/DVD/CD DRIVE "read only"


Xbox 360 Specs straight from Microsoft wesite

igh definition is upon us, and Xbox 360 is ready. Games are required to be authored for 720p and 1080i, and all games are optimized for the 16:9 widescreen viewing ratio. That doesn't mean you have to have an HDTV to play Xbox 360 games. Xbox 360 games always look good, but they look spectacular on your high-definition display.


*edit* bold important stuff




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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 12:46pm
Anyone else find it interesting that the specs say up to 7 bluetooth controllers, yet the controllers that it uses only have four indicator lights?

More Wii news: I returned CoD 3 to Gamestop(the game is just awful on the Wii) and got the new DBZ fighting game in return. I also purchased a remote glove, seems to improve the grip. I can not find extra controllers anywhere..


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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 3:48pm
Once again, if you don't like playing Halo multi-player, you probably suck bad.

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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 7:05pm
I agree with Cedric.

It seems to me that most people who play Halo like it until they get stomped a few times by people who are good at it.

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Posted By: rossy11223
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 7:30pm

I will be purchasing a Wii when the next shipment comes in. I don't need all the fancy graphics and features. I have a computer for that. Maybe someday I will have an Xbox 360, that would be my next choice, but I will probably never own a Playstation 3. Nintendo never fails me and I am trusting them with my purchase.

 



Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 7:47pm
Originally posted by Bunkered Bunkered wrote:

I agree with Cedric.

It seems to me that most people who play Halo like it until they get stomped a few times by people who are good at it.


well if you read what I said, I said that multi player mode was good but single player mode was horrible and sorry halo party's are not my thing


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Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 7:55pm
Halo is fun with a bunch of buddies, that's it. It's not fun on live, it's not fun on campaign.

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Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:15pm
k so as some say is the greatest game ever is only good for when your buddy's are around doesn't sound like a good game to me

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Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 10:11pm
:)

:)

:)

:)


<3 my wii sooooo much.


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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 10:14pm
Originally posted by Galm </\> Zero Galm </\> Zero wrote:

Halo is fun with a bunch of buddies, that's it. It's not fun on live, it's not fun on campaign.

Xbox live.


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Posted By: Hitman
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 10:23pm
The novelty of the Wii seems like it would wear off after awhile.

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Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 10:33pm
Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

Originally posted by Galm </\> Zero Galm </\> Zero wrote:

Halo is fun with a bunch of buddies, that's it. It's not fun on live, it's not fun on campaign.

Xbox live.


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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 10:53pm

So here is an old-guy question for all the gamers out there, although this may be a rough one...

I expect to buy either a 360 or PS3 in the next few months.  Wii is out because it isn't HD/16:9.  I generally prefer the 360 for various reasons (including cost), but am not totally stuck on it.

Here's the trick:  The principle purpose for buying either console would not be for HALO/Gears of War (although I would certainly get those as well), but for multi-player children's games.

My brother plays Loonie Tunes Racing on his PS2 with his kids and it is great.

So I am looking for game suggestions/recommendations for the 360/PS3 (assuming that many PS2 games will eventually show up for the PS3, I guess), that meet two criteria:

1.  Must have excellent multi-player capabilities.  Not XBox Live - on-screen multi, in the same room, on the same machine.  Four-player preferred, but some 2-player also acceptable.

2.  Must be suitable for young children.  I mean like 3-4-5 young.  That means zero violence and simple controls

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Posted By: XenoSabre
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 11:59pm
Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

Must be suitable for young children.


Then get a PS3.

XBOX traditionally caters to the older audiences and right now it looks as if 360 will do the same (it's been out for a year and its repertoire pretty much consists of M-rated FPSs and Sports games). I think everyone here can pretty much agree on that.

PS2 had a nicely-sized library of games for kids and I think that PS3 will probably be the same way. of course, you'd be better off with a Wii in this case but if you absolutely have to have the HD stuff then I would imagine that you'll be happier with the PS3 over the 360.

Just to be safe, you may want to try and dig up some type of release list for PS3 and 360 just so you can see what types of games are coming out in the future.

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Posted By: CarbineKid
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 12:24am
Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

Must be suitable for young children.


I would think the nintendo would rule in this area. I just grabed a Wii for my son. I have it NIB and it won't be opened till Xmas. I do wonder if I can just use the game cube controls for all the games. I think the whole Wii mote is going to get old fast


Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 12:33am

Nintendo certainly seems to have the most children's games - but Wii is out.  The lack of HDTV is a killer, given the console's intended location, and the wii-mote is also no good, as I will mostly be playing while engaged in some type of exercise.

So I am down to 360/PS3, at least for this generation.



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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 12:53am
SNES for the kids

Xbox 360 for yourself


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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 7:16am
Originally posted by CarbineKid CarbineKid wrote:

  I do wonder if I can just use the game cube controls for all the games. I think the whole Wii mote is going to get old fast


You can use a gamecube controller for downloaded classic games. Theyve also said Smash Brothers Brawl will use gamecube controllers.

Actually the wiimote doesnt get old. Wii sports is easily the most addictive simple little game since duck hunt. Theres a ton of potential for more "in depth" sports games. I cant wait for a more serious golf game. The wiimote and nunchuck for Zelda works great too, its actually a really cool control system, it works pretty much the same as ocarina of time of windwaker in terms of which buttons do what, but the way the remote and nunchuk are seperated you can just lounge out on the couch and not have to hold some big fat controller.

I think it will all be in the implementation. I dont have any doubts Nintendo games will make good use of the wiimote. Im just not sure about third party games, if other developers will take the time to work out good controls instead of just some slapdashed port. Hopefully nintendo has supplied them with some sort of "Wii control dev library" or something so they can just have access to good control code from the get go.


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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 7:24am
Enos, hows your wiimotes batteries?

My friend had to replace his tonight :S



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