Rammstein
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Topic: Rammstein
Posted By: Bunkered
Subject: Rammstein
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:09pm
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Just seeing who here likes the band Rammstein?
If you do, what's your favorite song? Mine is either "Rosenrot" or "Morgenstern." ------------- 
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:11pm
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Ew.
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Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:12pm
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^^^ do not say ew, if you've judged them on du hast which was their worst song, nothing angers me more than a person that doesn't aprriciate Rammstein becuase they heard that song. Actually there is something, people that like them becuase of that song. Wo Bist Du, I've never heard a more moving song, plus around the time Rosenrot came out my cousin passed away and the title means Where are you, so I'm always reminded of her when I hear it. -------------  |
Posted By: God
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:12pm
| Nien |
Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:15pm
| I'd say Sonne, or.. Freuer Frei |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:15pm
The truth. They are a pretty crappy band. Not all that talented, more for the OMG CRAZY METAL SHOW FIREWORKS LOL crowd than people that like...you know...good music. ------------- 
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Benjichang wrote:Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:16pm
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I agree that Wo Bist Du is an excellent song.
I need to learn German, because I only know what bits and pieces of their songs mean. All I know is that their music is better than just about anything I've heard come out of America recently. -------------
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:17pm
That is really, really sad. -------------
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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:19pm
Allright then... Name something. I'm interested to see what you have to say about this. -------------
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Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:21pm
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Now I don't agree with that, they're defineately a good band but better than anything that's come out of America recently? Go download only one by yellowcard. But Tae what songs have you listened to to come up with that conclusion? They have very good music, but if you listened to Du Hast and based your opinion on that then you need to listen to some more songs before you make that decision. ------------- |
Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:23pm
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Oh damn... Please do not mention Yellowcard. Listening to that band gives me an odd urge to inflict bodily harm on myself, and I don't know why. I listened to them and thought they would be decent, but was disappointed after a couple of songs. -------------
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Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:24pm
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Ok then. GOD I HATE DU HAST. Just thinking about it is making me very angry. It's really their worst song and it's the song that everyone bases all of their opinions on. They either hate them or love them based on it. ------------- |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:25pm
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I think one of the most artistically sound bands out there right now is Streetlight Manifesto, along with Thomas Kalnoky's pet project, The Bandits of the Acoustic Revolution. Certainly better overall than Rammstein. -------------
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Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:26pm
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Ok again what songs are you basing your opinion on tae? ------------- |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:28pm
I do not know anything specific. I have listened to them. I do not like them, and the collective society of people who know and understand music realize they are just not that good. They are the modern equivalent to KISS. Cool looking show, lots of neat gimmicks, but not a whole lot of talent to back it up. -------------
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Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:30pm
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Well I disagree with you there they have pleanty of musical talent IMO. I'll agree a lot of people that understand music don't like them but I understand music and feel they've got a certain taste to them. ------------- |
Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:30pm
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Its all a matter of personal preference and opinion. What you may love I may hate. No one is right of wrong. I think a lot of bands suck and a lot of music sucks that my friends love and vice versa.
You may not like Rammstein, but because you dont like them doesnt mean they suck. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:32pm
How do you know he's only heard one song. For all you know, he could have seen them in concert, and have all their albums. Just saying...
What crap do you listen thats coming out of america? I've heard some great stuff in recent years. It's sad, but true that the truely good stuff doesnt get heard on the radio. |
Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:32pm
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Right ------------- |
Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:34pm
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I would also like to know what songs you've heard by Rammstein TKD.
I've only heard a few songs by Streetlight Manifesto, but I wasn't a big fan. Du Hast (as Galm is saying) is a terrible song, but it's probably the most heard of their music. Listen to the songs "Amerika," "Rosenrot," and "Wo Bist Du" if you want some pretty good songs. The video for Rosenrot is enough to make me love the band. The video is crazy awesome. -------------
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:35pm
That is not really how it works. Some music is just simply better than others. Just like some books are better written than others, some movies are better made, some shows better scripted, some food is better flavored, some paintings have better strokes. Opinion can be wrong. Some may have the opinion that hanging a giant velvet Elvis in their living room is classy. It makes their opinion wrong. And yes, Rammstein is the musical equivalent to a velvet Elvis. -------------
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Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:39pm
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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:39pm
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Chewp:
My car may as well not have a radio in it, because I don't use it more than once a week. The music on it just sucks. I haven't heard any new metal coming out of America that I like. Some of the music (Bolt Thrower, In Flames, Covenant, and a few others) is halfway decent, but overall if I'm going to listen to rock music I like older stuff (80's is great). Maybe it was a bit of an exaggeration to say no good music is coming out of America, but for the most part I feel like American music is over-synthesized, under-talented crap. -------------
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Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:41pm
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Again I don't agree with that bunkered, but tae you can't say that opinion doesn't matter. ------------- |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:42pm
It matters, but it only goes so far. -------------
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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:43pm
Erm.... Right.... Except that your wrong. It's all personal preference and relativity. Just because the number of people who like the music is less than those who dislike it doesn't mean it sucks... By that logic, Linkin Park is a great band. -------------
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Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:43pm
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Meh, you don't like them that's fine, I don't like Johnny cash but you don't see me running up to Johnny cash fans and referring to his music as prop elvis' ------------- |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:43pm
I never listen to the radio, but I think I have pretty good music, and probably most of it is american. |
Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:44pm
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There is pleanty of good music coming from america, AVA, +44, The Killers etc ------------- |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:45pm
That is not the logic at all. You don't quite get it. And no, Linkin Park is not good either. Some of it is personal preference, but not all of it. Talent cannot be measured in personal preference. -------------
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Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:46pm
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Linken park blows something we can all agree on ------------- |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:47pm
So you honestly think that Johnny Cash is on the same playing field as Rammstein? Oh, and by the way, you have horrible taste. That is not opinion, that is fact. -------------
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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:49pm
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TKD, I think I see the point that you're making now.
The only problem is that you have nothing to measure by. The only way that you could judge quality of music is if you have a common standard, which is why opinion is largely the basis for what is or is not good music. You could say, "Rammstein doesn't sound harmonic," or, "Rammstein doesn't keep in tempo throughout the song," and that would make them suck. Unfortunately for you in this discussion, I highly doubt that you have anything to say about any technical musical problems that Rammstein has... So it's mostly based on opinion. -------------
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:52pm
| Aphex Twin hardly keeps a consistant beat, etc, but I heart them. |
Posted By: Trogdor2
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:57pm
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Listen to Don Ellis. That's some damn good music... ------------- Something unknown is doing we don't know what. That is what our knowledge amounts to. - Sir Arthur Eddington |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 9:05pm
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*cough* sig they're not my favourite band but i like them alot. They do put on an amazing show though my favourite thing when i've had a stressfull day is to put on some rammstein and play counterstrike against bots. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Galm </\> Zero
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 9:20pm
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No I don't think he's on the same playing feild with rammstein, and you know nothing of my tastes, so cram it. You listen to Beethoven? Tchaikovsky? Bach? The beetles? Do you think they're horrible? If so then you need to rethink your musical authority. And for the love of god don't shoot your mouth off again. I don't care that you don't like rammstein, My best friends hate rammstein, I didn't kill my relationship with them for it. So why do you care that I do like them? Is it the end of the world that one guy likes a band that you and yes the majority of people don't like? I agree a lot of people don't agree with them, I'm one of the few that do, a lot of people love Johnny Cash, I don't and my tastes arn't horrible becuase I like one band that a lot of people hate, and dislike one man that tons of people idolize. ------------- |
Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 9:21pm
Eh eh .. Don't bring the King into the same Thread as Ramstein. I brought the Ramstien CD when everyone was going ape nuts over that Du Hast Song. I still think it's the only CD i have chucked out of my Car to date. I think I lost it on that angel song. I do agree they seem to be more stagecraft that rockin' factor. BTW I dont have a velvet elvis in my Den. But I do have a velvet Jesus and Elvis in my office. It's like what garlic is to Vampires to the Rave-Techno Geeks from IT at work. ------------- 
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 9:31pm
How much would you take for that velvet Jesus? -------------
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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 9:42pm
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for mine? would never sell it thou I can hook you up with a link to where I got it,
http://www.thevelvetstore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ve033&Category_Code=11 - Elvis & Jesus in heaven Dang it's 80 bones now! I might have to pick up another. -------------
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 9:43pm
I listen to Bach, Elgar, Faure, Gorecki, Mozart, Mendelssohn, J.S. Bach, Rachmaninov, Satie....shall I continue? I cover just about every genre except crappy rock (creed), emo, and new "punk". |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 9:48pm
Fixed. EDIT: Heh. (Note: This isn't mine, I saw it on ST a while ago and found it funny)  ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 10:11pm
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Ramstein is so lame.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 10:13pm
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usaf i didn't beleive that at first so i tried it and.... wow hahahaaaaaa ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 10:17pm
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but worst band ever anyone remember limp bizkit? ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 10:17pm
There's way worse. |
Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 10:32pm
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Taking German ruined rammstein for me
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 10:39pm
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 10:48pm
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Can I suggest that perhaps something can be objectively good or bad (quality-wise), but that this is independent of personal preference? I will readily admit that Rammstein is rather repetitive, formulaic, and simplistic. So is Britney Spears (back when she actually made music instead of poor life decisions). Yet I thoroughly enjoy both. I acknowledge that James Joyce is a superb writer, yet I cannot abide by his work. Neither means that I do or do not have "taste". I merely like things independently of their objective qualifications. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 1:16am
| Ja, ich liebe Rammstein! Mein lieblings Song des Rammsteins ist die Sonne |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 1:17am
Q-F -to- tha -T |
Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 8:39am
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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 9:11am
Clearly you have no respect for other peoples opinions. And view only your opinions as correct. You must live in your own little world. |
Posted By: Murdock
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 9:36am
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Rammstein is the shizzzznet. Got everything they have released since
94. You haven't seen anything until youve seen them live I'm told. Only
seen the Live Aus Berlin video, never them live but their pyros make
Kiss go and cry in the corner. ------------- PFC Murdock 307th FSC 1st BDE 82nd Airborne Division HOOOOOOOOAAAAHHHHH!!!!! |
Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 9:48am
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I like a lot of their stuff. One of my favorite songs is Mein Herz Brennt. ------------- Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good. |
Posted By: DsXz
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 10:26am
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old rammstien= repetetiv n simple thier new stuff is way more complex, try downloading reise reise, mein herz brennt, ich will, mein teil, sonne, spiel mit mir, dalai lama, stein um stein. those r imo the best ones along with wo bist du ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 12:31pm
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I agree that their earlier music (such as Du Hast, and most of the CD Sensucht) is not amazing. It's still somewhat good, but Reise, Reise and Rosenrot are damn good CDs. -------------
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Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 12:41pm
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Skynyrd FTW -------------
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 1:26pm
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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 9:23pm
And you are the proprietor of good music? Good music is relative,folks. It is in the ear of the beholder. Go with what YOU like, and fon't judge other peoples tastes. Synapses fire differently in everyones brain. I like punk, but I am not going to bash someone who likes country, that's just their taste. Besides, if everyone judged bands like Tae did, people would still think The Ramones suck. Let's cut the ignorance. ------------- A second class drive is always better than a first class walk. |
Posted By: SuperXero
Date Posted: 27 November 2006 at 12:05am
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The whole Rosenrot album sucks.
1) Mutter 2) Sehnsucht 3) Reise, Reise 4) Herzeleid 5) Rosenrot If you prefer anything from Rosenrot over almost anything from one of the other albums... Well, it's all "opinion" I guess. Adios off of Mutter is my favourite Rammstein song. For the record, never seen them in concert, it's all about the music for me. ------------- Tenacious and Versatile |
Posted By: Destruction
Date Posted: 27 November 2006 at 12:09am
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I went from the first page to the fourth and was surprised to see this stayed on topic. ------------- u dont know what to do ur getting mottor boatted Men are from Magmar, women are from Venusaur. |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 27 November 2006 at 12:10am
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I listen to RAWGOD. -------------
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Posted By: Squishey
Date Posted: 27 November 2006 at 12:11am
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^ so was i. i like ich will, and amerika. but really i dont understand any of there songs and the all sound good to me. except du hast, even though its the song that gotme interested in them. in the end its not that great. ------------- Canadians do it on top. 
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