umm, happy 23rd of november. I'm glad you seem thankful.

Although thanksgiving was in October for the Canayens.

evillepaintball wrote: phil_stl wrote: umm, happy 23rd of november. I'm glad you seem thankful. Although thanksgiving was in October for the Canayens. What do Canadians have to be thankful for?

we invaded them yet.

but either way happy thanksgiving!

Happy Thanksgiving

"MASH POTATAS! GRAVY! CRANBERRY SAUCE!!! WOO-HOOOO!!!!!!!!"
^twas on a Geico commercial about Thanksgiving

*Stealth* wrote: phil_stl wrote: umm, happy 23rd of november. I'm glad you seem thankful. Although thanksgiving was in October for the Canayens. All Canadians, With the exception of BB, Chewp, Andy, and Funky... are idiots. Americas thanksgiving > Canadia thanksgiving. Over here, in Awesomerica, hookers serve us turkey, that is basted in beer. Than, If we play our cards right, at the end of the night we get some beaver... Just to make you canajerks jealous.

Okay the above has got to be the most idiotic thing I've ever read. Out of over 32 million people that populate the country I bet you (*Stealth*) know less than ten people from Canada (Stealth don't even try to make up names of people, to pretend you know more than 10 Canadians).  So how is it possible for you to judge the rest of Canadians that you have never met.  Considering the fact that you never met all of us Canadians, how can you know every Canadian's intelligence level?  What proof do you have to say that over 32 million Canadians are idiots, if you are going to cough up words like that be prepared to back them up with facts?

Let me just state a few things about the US.  They have a President that is either an absolute idiot or a maybe he’s a genius governing an idiot population, it's hard to tell.

This man known as the President of the USA said that Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11, he and his "people" also said that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, those same people said they were going to use the oil in Iraq for money for the reconstruction of Iraq, these same people said that the US would be greeted as liberators not occupiers in Iraq, the same people said they are fighting a war on terror (ya right you oil stealers), these same people said the Taliban is gone, and also said that Poland was their allies 2 days before Polland pulled out, this same president that told you that Iraq doing great, these same people that said the US economy was going just great, the same people that said the tax cut in the States would create millions of jobs, the same people that said the Medicare program in the US would only cost $400 billion when in fact the cost was $540 billion... Bla bla bla. etc. etc.

But hey you know what, the American people have believed in and trusted this president for the longest time.  I am glad to see that finally some of them have started to gain their senses, but how many times must they have their own freaking president lie to them before they stop trusting what he says?

Quick fact: an estimated 64.5% of the U.S. population is considered obese or overweight. Child obesity is already out of hand... (Info from: Trust for Americans' Health) So many things I could say about all the "beavers" over there... but I won't get too out of hand.

Instead let’s think about the environment…

The US pollutes more than any other country in the world and thinks not much of it. (What proof do I have, let me just say two words: “Kyoto Protocol”)

Some facts about their gas emissions for the year 2005:

Carbon dioxide: 60008.6 Million Metric Tons

Methane: 26.6 Million Metric Tons

Nitrous Oxide: 1238.4 Thousand Metric Tons

Other gases: 160 Million Metric Tons

Education is being put number 1 in Canada right now, more and more Canadians are flooding Universities and College’s, and therefore Canadians are becoming a more educated people.  The government is increasing funding towards schools. But what can I say about the States, well you need to have money or get scholarships to become more educated.  Not in Canada, there are plenty of loans and scholarship to be given to people in financial need.  Plus education in the States ranges from double to three times the amount paid towards tuition per year.  What is so great about that?  Plus, we all know how politics work, I’ve heard of situations were people don’t have enough money to get into “good” schools so they go to “crappier” schools.  Here in Canada people don’t worry about having to go to the best school in the country because the ranking isn’t viewed as one the most important thing after their education.

In the States the #1 priority seems to be a war that is really not a war it's really a massacre of innocent Iraqi's.  The US went against the United Nations causing their power to be largly weekened, and really did Iraq have weapons of mass destruction - (if you like I can debate this for hours, I have read a lot about it). The US probably doesn't realise all of the problems they are causing.  But to get back to what I was saying about their priorities. Considering they are spending so much money on taking middle eastern people's lives, they are just endebting themselves so much more.  Where is the money for education or is that not important.  (Who were we calling idiots).

Oh yes, I do remember hearing that the average amount of people per 100 persons to make it past High school in the States is a large percent lower than those in Canada. (I think it was the movie: Bowling for Columbine) and it was talked about why this lack of education was assumed to be the main reason for the massive amount of crime in US. They compared the average amount of crime that happens (annually) they averadged it per 100 people (of course) between the US and Canada let me just say there was a big gap between the two, (Canada had a lot less crime).

I don’t hate the USA nor do I hate the Americans that live there (I acctually have relatives that live there, and I know some fantastic people that live there, but I hate some of the things they do, I hate how many of them think they are better than others, I hate their leader but I don’t think that all the Americans except for 4 of them are idiots like Stealth thinks about Canadians (or as he called us “Canajerks”).  

Hey, what reason did you have to call Canadians: jerks.  First of all I don’t understand what your issue is with Canada.  I was being very kind by wishing you a Happy Thanksgiving and I stated something about Canada’s thanksgiving but you were just an absolute prick.

Oh let me say something else… I don’t care if you think I’m an idiot, second I don’t care how much “beaver” you get because being a respectful person and thinking about how I can help other people is more important than getting “beaver”.  Oh and by the way, don't think Canadians can't get "beaver" it's our National symbol for crying out loud maybe there is some co-incidence there, maybe not!  I also will never be jealous of you, because it is too hard for me to be jealous of someone that has such a horrible attitude towards others that they don’t even know.  

I don’t know what your issue is with Canada especially when you say in your profile you are from Ethiopia. All I can say is the things you typed down have showed me and I'm sure have shown others how much idiot you are.  I hope to hear your response towards the things that I have stated and it would also be nice if you could state the reason for your opinions or beliefs towards Canadians.

^ Okay I knew this would be said as soon as I typed it.  I just knew it. 

But of course he is going to want to say the same thing you two did and back out of it like a little "beaver" or just like what Michael Richards is trying to do about the idiotic remarks he made. 

I expect that Stealth will do that too.  But what would be great is if he admitted to some of his beliefs, because Brihard who had asked why Stealth hated him, responded and acknowledged Brihard's statement and concern and responded admitting that Brihard wasn't an idiot, he even went on and pretty much said that Canada (or "Canadia" lol.)  was getting cooler, this in fact goes to show at least the fact that Stealth believes partially in what he said because humans have the ability to reason, it one of many things that differ us from animals and well, as I stated, Stealth had a change of though... well a small change of thought - but still his brain was working (surprisingly) and he started reasoning (shows not only that he is human but that his brain processed different ideas to come to a slightly different conclusion of what he stated in the first place.  Plus on top of this others chipped in their re-marks “What do Canadians have to be thankful for?” etc. etc. and it ended up turning into a history lesson about the war between Canada and the States.  So others even added on to it and continued it and he didn’t stop it.  Therefore, this is my reasoning for thinking he is a prick.  

But yes, let’s all just say he was just kidding I don't care what you others think, I'd like to hear what he says.  Because I’m pretty sure that deep down inside he dislikes Canada at least a little and probably has no real reason for this, he had no right to call all of us except for 4 (and then 5 - with Brihard) idiots and then proceed to call us jerks.

I rest my case and I hope to hear his response.

phil_stl wrote: ^ Okay I knew this would be said as soon as I typed it.  I just knew it.  But of course he is going to want to say the same thing you two did and back out of it like a little "beaver" or just like what Michael Richards is trying to do about the idiotic remarks he made.  I expect that Stealth will do that too.  But what would be great is if he admitted to some of his beliefs, because Brihard who had asked why Stealth hated him, responded and acknowledged Brihard's statement and concern and responded admitting that Brihard wasn't an idiot, he even went on and pretty much said that Canada (or "Canadia" lol.)  was getting cooler, this in fact goes to show at least the fact that Stealth believes partially in what he said because humans have the ability to reason, it one of many things that differ us from animals and well, as I stated, Stealth had a change of though... well a small change of thought - but still his brain was working (surprisingly) and he started reasoning (shows not only that he is human but that his brain processed different ideas to come to a slightly different conclusion of what he stated in the first place.  Plus on top of this others chipped in their re-marks “What do Canadians have to be thankful for?” etc. etc. and it ended up turning into a history lesson about the war between Canada and the States.  So others even added on to it and continued it and he didn’t stop it.  Therefore, this is my reasoning for thinking he is a prick.   But yes, let’s all just say he was just kidding I don't care what you others think, I'd like to hear what he says.  Because I’m pretty sure that deep down inside he dislikes Canada at least a little and probably has no real reason for this, he had no right to call all of us except for 4 (and then 5 - with Brihard) idiots and then proceed to call us jerks. I rest my case and I hope to hear his response.

BLAME CANADA FOR ALL OF AMERICAS FAILURES! IF IT WUZNT FOR CANADIA USA WULD BE BETTER!

Seriously man, you're the first Canadian to freak out. Stealth meant no harm, and his ramblings (as idiotic as they may be ) usually amount to nothing. Don't be so uptight.

This whole America Canada, allbeit a joke, debate is strange to me.

For after all what's man in nature? A central point in between nothing & all, infinitely far from understanding either.

It's a joke in my head stealth, another of multiple worthless debates on this forum that make me shake my head and wonder why I'm here.

For after all what's man in nature? A central point in between nothing & all, infinitely far from understanding either.

I'm learning to let that stuff go, people keep throwing it in my face though so it's kinda hard too. And I'm not confused by anything save the fact that this is a thanksgiving thread and there is a fight over countries on it.

For after all what's man in nature? A central point in between nothing & all, infinitely far from understanding either.

America Pwns canada suxorz.

For after all what's man in nature? A central point in between nothing & all, infinitely far from understanding either.

Yes Big Brother... Anyway I'm just glad I don't work at pizza hut anymore, I'd be there all day today.

For after all what's man in nature? A central point in between nothing & all, infinitely far from understanding either.

Stupid Canadian. Go suck on some syrup.

Stupid, ignorant, American go suck your Dad.

America > Canadia.

Prove it, facts would help. 

America does not pollute the world, we refresh it.

Umm, ha ha ha ha ha ha.  Need I say more?  If you really are going to school where is this place?  Did you know that someone has brainwashed you, and that you are not being taught the truth? 

You damn Americans are so fricking self absorbed and full of yourselves, you know nothing about other countries and you don't even see the problems you are causing worldwide. Well maybe some you do know some of those things, but you sir, are an absolute idiot! Could you please explain how the US is refreshing the world! Yes that means give an explanation that does involve maybe a source or two, and that is not just your opinion.  Is it possible for you to do that, yet? 

America does not go to war with the world, we liberate it.

Since when?  How about the war in Iraq (considering that was one of the points that I brought up initially - and that you didn't address it). If you think the war in Iraq is really liberating (and if you even think that it is going slightly well over there, yesterday there were over 200 casualties of innocent Iraqi's - is that what you would call going well?) If you believe these things that you are typing, then you are much stupider than I thought and I already think you are pretty damn stupid.

American schools are THEE best in the world, like it or not.

It's just too bad you couldn't get into one that was any good then, isn't it?  Either that or you're a drop out! (oh and by the way "the" is spelt with one e not two, if you were using the extra e and the Caps to emphasize the ignorant thing you just said : all I can say in response, is that in schools in Canada, they teach us that if you want to emphasize a point you use an exclamation mark!).  But we learn that in grade school not in University or College.  

So you may think your schools are better but at least Canadians enter the school educated and when they finish they are more educated.  How many people in the US get into school in the US because of sports?  Compare that to Canada!  If you want to say that Canada sucks at sports... let me just name a few people, Justin Morneau, Steve Nash, Joe Thornton.  Do you know who they are?  Does the word MVP mean anything to you?  But screw sports because really that is not what is important.  You called over 32 million of us idiots when in fact, less people (on average per 100 people in our population) are illiterate compared to the US. And I also believe that the average per 100 people in Canada compared to the US are more educated but I haven’t found at statistic proving that point just yet.

The majority of Americans are overweight because we have the cash to spend to eat.

Well why do you have cash, because you are enslaving the less fortunate to do all of your dirty work and in turn those places there is massive problems. But considering you know nothing else about the outside world, if I mentioned: Sierra Leone, or Darhur in Sudan it would probably mean nothing to you.  Did you know what genocide is?  You probably didn’t know that even with the US’s power on the UN they did nothing to stop multiple incidents of genocide in different nations until it was too late?

Actually if you knew anything about history and world issues, the reason the west side of the world (which constitutes mainly whites – or did at one point) is because the west invaded other places and used force (of course).  They were bullies, they took what they wanted (resources) and did what they wanted (killed people that didn't agree with them) they thought that black people weren’t equal.  You are probably just another Michael Richards.

The biggest reason our economies strive is because of what happened years and years ago.  But you don’t care about anything but yourselves and I find that very sad!

Unlike canajerks who have fake money that doesn't mean a thing.

Well our economy has been rising, our currency has gone up and is getting closer to the US currency rate and I can exchange my money for US money so I do think what you just said made any sense at all.

Our president is one of the greatest presidents ever elected, governing over one of the best generations of Americans that has ever been.

Is George W. Bush is one of the “greatest presidents ever”, and then I think I speak for the rest of the world (and 70% of the US population according to recent polls) that I hope the next one is a lot “worse”.  

Do you know what the definition of great is by any chance?

Face it, with out America, you canajerks would be speaking German right now. Fact is, you need us, the world needs us, and that is why god loves this country so much.

I will admit that the world does function the way it does because of the Western society.  That is a definite fact! I do also believe that the Canadians wouldn’t be too far without the lying, murdering neighbors we have.  In some ways I really appreciate the US because of the things they have done have contributed to my excellent style of living.  But the gap between the rich and the poor is becoming even greater and my heart goes out to those that are dying of diseases every day.

32 million worth of hopeless, if you ask me. No freaken army, you guys got what, like... 10 rifles? I know, like... 30 Canadians,

Our prime minister… do you even know his name?  Probably not, just like most of the self absorbed Americans.  Anyway he has been putting more money into our army, but our country is known as the peace keeping country.  After you guys destroy an area it is us that goes in there to help re-build it.  Bush said that the oil over there would be used for re-construction of Iraq… you haven’t even touched on that point or admitted any of the lies Bush has made.

Plus you probably know nothing about the internal affairs of Canada and what our government is doing (your last comment just proved that) so you probably should shut your mouth about those things before you make yourself look even more of an idiot than you already have!

Seeing as I am from Northern Michigan, and you all try to infect us with your hippy culture, and they are all, as stated before... idiots.

Would you explain anything about our hippy culture?  No you probably can’t because you never have had any facts to back up anything you have said.  

You're just jealous you aren't an American citizen. Because all our women are hotter than yours, not to mention they shave their armpits, damn frenchies.
Yes, overweight and obese might be hot to you but it isn’t to me.  Plus it is the French that don’t shave their armpits (French from France), not “less Quebecois”.  Quebec in-fact want to be viewed as a separate Nation from Canada. (Harper admitted that they are a nation with a separate language and culture living inside of Canada 2 days ago – he wants to form an alliance with the Bloc Quebecois and is trying to keep them in Canada but admit they do have things that separate Canada from them – it’s too confusing for you to understand.  Plus you know nothing about Canada’s affairs anyway). 

By the way I am French myself, I know both English and French fluently, languages and I know Spanish pretty well also (I am continuing to learn it) and I’m very proud to be Canadian.  Oh and the Quebec girls are beautiful, they are well kept, nice and slim, although a lot of them do smoke or do weed, just from what I’ve noticed which I don’t like too much.  

Canada is a multi-cultural country. Our drinking age is 19 and 18 in Quebec. There are so many reasons why I prefer Canada over the US.  But the thing I hate the most, is people that think they know a lot but really know nothing about us Canadians.

To some up what you have said and all of what I mean about your idiotness (which isn’t even a word I know): So I will now respond in a fashion you should understand very well:

Stealth, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard! At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational point towards any of the statements I made, you did not have any proof associated with your dumb*ss remarks nor do you know anything about Canada.  Everyone on reading this thread is now dumber for having read your response.  You are awarded the status of an idiot, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Now, go play with your sled dogs.

Yes that is right I’m leaving now to go play in my igloo with my sled dogs and my pet beaver!  You moron, you absolute moron!

Is that all you have to say?  You have not been at all able to defend any of your beliefs, you have not made any sense.  I respond to your diss in almost the same fashion and now you have nothing to say, so you whine about the return diss I make to you! 

The funny things is I knew you were serious all along about Canada.  No one else wanted to believe it.  But you are a jerk that hates Canadians and you have not reason to.  Canada is a great country and the States is actually lucky to have Canada.  They depend a lot on our economy as well (wood imports, energy supplier etc.).

*Stealth* wrote: thee (th)  Pronunciation Key   https://secure.reference.com/premium/login.html?rd=2&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary.reference.com%2Fbrowse%2FThee"> " class="pl" border="0" height="15" width="16"> pron. The objective case of thou1 Used as the object of a preposition. Who needs school now? Canajerk. You should sop while you're behind, because you are really looking like a fool now.

You do! We all know you weren't using the type of english used in the Shakespearean era for only on word in your entire text. Especially considering you bolded it - therefore you were using it to emphasize your point. Even if you were using "thee" then it wouldn't flow with the rest of the english you are using in the rest of the text.  So in either case you are still either grammatically wrong or wrong in the way you make your texts flow within itself. 

The last and final option would be that it was a simple typo in your case, in case I don't really care because everyone makes mistakes once in a while (even if you are American).  Therefore and either way, I don't about your "thee" and whether you are right about it or if I am right about it.  Although I could also make fun of how instead of saying stop you said sop. But then again arguing over this stupid nonsense is a waste of time.  Let's get down to the real beef of this issue -why you think almost all Canadians are idiots and jerks.

You have not even come close to responding any of the statements that I made.  You are so far behind but you think you are ahead.  You are definetly a confused American that is all. 

Why don't you start responding to the statements I made about America and Canada and back up your beliefs with proof.

I never said we weren't lucky to have the States.  But they are causing more problems than you know and you won't admit it you won't admit your president is a liar and it is so obvious that he is.

You know nothing about our prime minister - stop just saying things like "oppresive" etc without reasons to back up why you beleive that.  Because otherwise your opinions "hold no ground"!

*Stealth* wrote: Why with out the global warming of America (Refreshing) you would all freeze. No actually we wouldn't freeze, all that would happen is more people would move farther South.  If you looked at the geography of Canada, it is were a lot of the Canadian population is anyway - but then again you know nothing about Canada! And trust me, the Iraqis love Americans now, I know... I've been there. Why would I want to trust you?  So far all you've said are things that make no sense at all or that weren't backed by reasons or proof. Why would I beleive that Iraq is doing fine when yesterday 200 Iraqi's were killed by American troops, yes that happened yesterday, they said it was one of the worst days in Iraq. Plus I'm sure all the family members that have had their brothers, sisters, mothers, father, other family members and friends die because of the US are really in love with the Americans and what they are doing.  Does that really make any sense?

Anyway I have a project to write.  And this is more a waste of time because you don't seem to understand any of my valuable arguments.  I admit the US is not a bad place that we do depend on them (but they also depend on us).  I even like things about the US.  But why are you so dumb.

I'll be back later and hopefully by that time you have addressed some more of the things that I stated (which were backed up by reasons for those beleifs and proof) and hopefully the things you mention or respond to are backed with facts and reasons for those beleifs.

Holy I can't leave because you keep responding here.  This is just getting dumb. 

You are really the self centered jerk that thinks your country is the best place in the world.

I do beleive both Canada and the US are great places, but I want to stop some of the myths you beleive about Canada.

Plus you started it actually calling Canadians idiots - and you had quoted my wish for a happy thanksgiving. Therefore considering you didn't mention my name you were directly calling me an idiot and even a jerk.  All I did was defend myself and my country.

Plus through your debating you have admitted your beleifs about the things you said about Canada anyway when everyone though you were just kidding. So I clearly was right and had the right to defend myself and my country.

You said: You're sure those Iraqis deserved to die, and that your American soldiers, unlike our "canajerk" ones are highly trained and skilled combat ready individuals. They would never make a mistake as to kill 200 innocents.

You are so confident that your country can never do anything wrong. It is sad, very sad that you are so brainwashed.

Why prove anything else to you? You won't beleive it anyway.  Your american theories are so engrained into your closed off little brain that you don't want to hear the truth, and btw you haven't proven pretty much anything you said because it is all just opinions with no reasons to back them nor any facts to back them.  This is an absolute waste of my time and your time.

All I have learned from this, is that I should never wish you a Happy Thanksgiving.

So, now I'm acctually leaving to go and do my project. 

And tolgak saves himself from the balme canada post with a beautiful qoute from Robin Williams bravo Tolgak .

For after all what's man in nature? A central point in between nothing & all, infinitely far from understanding either.

FACTBOX-Security developments in Iraq, Nov 24

Updated: 2 hours, 35 minutes ago

Following are security developments in Iraq as of 2100 GMT on Friday.

* denotes new or updated item.

* BAGHDAD - A U.S. attack helicopter destroyed a site in the Shi'ite Sadr City neighborhood of Baghdad where six rockets had been fired after dark at the renowned Abu Hanifa mosque in the nearby Sunni enclave of Adhamiya, the military said in a statement. Soviet-built "Katyusha" surface-to-surface rockets are a common element in the arsenal of militants in Iraq.

BAGHDAD - Baghdad police recovered 30 unidentified bodies around the capital in the 24 hours to late Friday, an Interior Ministry source said. Most appeared to be the victims of death squad torture and killings. The bodies had apparently been dumped despite an indefinite curfew imposed on Thursday.

BAGHDAD - Gunmen rampaged through a Sunni enclave in the mainly Shi'ite district of Hurriya in Baghdad, setting mosques and homes ablaze, residents and the deputy prime minister said. A police source said 30 people were killed.

BAGHDAD - Clashes involving U.S.-led forces were reported in Baghdad's Sadr City, a stronghold of the Mehdi Army Shi'ite militia, and there were some casualties, a Shi'ite lawmaker and residents said. The Interior Ministry said a U.S. helicopter opened fire in response to ritual gunfire during a funeral.

DIWANIYA - Six mortars hit a residential area in Diwaniya, 180 km (112 miles) south of Baghdad, killing one person and wounding two, police said.

BAGHDAD - The U.S. military said coalition forces killed four suspected insurgents and detained six more in a mission targeting an al Qaeda cell in Tarmiya, north of Baghdad.

BAGHDAD - The death toll in Thursday's multiple car bombings in Sadr City, a Shi'ite slum district of Baghdad, rose to 202 after around 40 of the wounded died overnight, police said. Another 250 were wounded and Baghdad was under a curfew.

TAL AFAR - A double suicide attack killed 22 people and wounded 45 at a market in a Shi'ite district in the northern city of Tal Afar, near the Syrian border, police said.

BAQUBA - Gunmen blew up an office of radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr's movement in the town of Baquba, north of Baghdad, after U.S. troops raided the building to arrest Sadr supporters inside, police said. They also reported sporadic clashes and said the situation was tense in the religiously mixed town which has been a frequent scene of sectarian violence.

BAGHDAD - Residents in Shula, a Shi'ite enclave in mainly Sunni west Baghdad, said at least two mortars hit the neighborhood. There were no reports of any injuries.

ISKANDARIYA - A roadside bomb targeting a police patrol killed one policeman and wounded another in the town of Iskandariya, 40 km (25 miles) south of Baghdad, on Thursday, police said. In a separate incident gunmen attacked a police checkpoint, killing one civilian and wounding a policeman.

MOSUL - Three bodies with gunshot wounds were found in different parts of the northern city of Mosul on Thursday, the local hospital said.

TAL AFAR - Gunmen pulled a man off a bus in central Tal Afar on Thursday and shot him dead, police said. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14769845/ - So there you go, the official number was 202 Iraqi’s dead.  But as I said before you probably don’t care how many people have been killed in Iraq unless they are American.

Therefore here is another stat for you… since war began (3/19/03) more than 2872 soldiers have lost their lives, according to U.S. Department of Defense numbers. http://www.courierpostonline.com/ - http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ - . And then there are people like you that don’t really seem to care.

The only thing you may bring up is that maybe not all of the 202 deaths were caused by American troops.  That is definitely true.  But the Iraqi people are lashing out to show their disproval of what the US is doing there.  Sure some Iraqi's might appreciate what they are doing, because Saddam was definitely a bad man, there is no doubt about it. (He committed Genocide, but if the States was so worried about Genocide why didn't they stop it in Sierra Leone, and Darhur in Sudan when they had the chance? Because those places don't have natural resources that the US can steal.) The government that the US put in place in Iraq has no control, it is not working at all!  And these Iraqi's that lash out go to prove this point perfectly.

But you don't need to believe anything I just said, even with the sources you probably still won't believe any of it.  That is because you are ignorant.  I don't know why I'm wasting my time on you, an ignorant person who thinks he has all the answers.  I have proved many points, about the US, such as: violence, environment issues, obesity, Bush's lies, the war in Iraq.  But you have not admitted that any of my statements have been correct and that is okay. 

I just want to let you know that just because I'm Canadian doesn't mean I don't know anything.  I think I have proven that through what I've talked about today, but then again you probably won't admit that either.

It's been fun debating with you but I've got to go out tonight because it's my friends 19th birthday.

All I hope is that maybe your heart will be a little more sensitive to those that are hurting, (like those that are helping make our economies strive, those that live amongst disease and poverty).  Because thinking about ourselves isn't always what is the most important thing in life.  You are an intelligent person, (otherwise this debate wouldn't have been so interesting) and you are living in the Western side of the world, so you have an upper hand over the 85% of the rest of the world, all I can say is that you should educate yourself a little more about other issues so that you can make the world a better place (for everyone, not just you).

This has been fun, but I won't be back until much later tonight, so I wish you a good night (and I'll say it one last time), happy belated thanksgiving.

So Stealth,

Will you please tell me and the others... were you just messing around to give the people of this forum an interesting debate? Or did you actually mean all the things you said about Canada?

JohnnyCanuck wrote: phil_stl wrote: So Stealth, Will you please tell me and the others... were you just messing around to give the people of this forum an interesting debate? Or did you actually mean all the things you said about Canada? Do you really care what he thinks about Canada.  Quit stroking his ego please.

You are right Mr. Canuck, I shouldn't actually care what he thinks about Canada because I know what I think and that is all that should matter to me.