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Topic: ebay auction
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Subject: ebay auction
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 5:57pm
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need an opinion i am selling something on ebay but i don't want to make less than 20-30 dollars, there is 3 days left no bids so far so i figure i need to change something. should i keep it at the starter price $20-30 and hope that someone bids? or Should i move it down to like 99 cents and set a reserve price of $20-$30? ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 6:01pm
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Nobody wants to buy your virginity..
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 6:01pm
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High Voltage wrote:Posted By: DsXz
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 6:02pm
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 6:02pm
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well im hoping to get some serious posts soon anyone can answer, you don't need ebay experience to mark your preference ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 6:02pm
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you'll get what it's worth i always put my stuff at a starting bid of $.01 w/ no reserve. if you're worried about it, set a reserve and have a low starting bid |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 6:05pm
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wait ill post the link (don't laugh at what i'm selling)
i have 5 watchers.... what does this mean? so your opinions? ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 6:06pm
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No one's gonna buy it man.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 6:09pm
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was that serious or...... ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 6:14pm
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I highly doubt anyone will buy that...
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 6:16pm
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This may sound nerdy, but do you have any gaming centers where people go and play? If so, suck up your dignity and try to sell it there. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 6:19pm
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i dont even know what you mean. so i'm gona guess no
so what's a better rreserve for that? $20 or $30 ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: White o Light
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 6:33pm
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So.
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Posted By: proteus316
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 6:56pm
| What are you selling |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 6:57pm
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<I'll take your word for your good intentions here...> ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: tecumseh
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 7:02pm
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uh, i see a mods opportunity to give carl a strike.. posted what he's selling and one link has been removed. but carl, on ebay you hardly get the price that your looking for when your selling an item. wait as it goes, people tend to bid last minute for an item. and watchers aren't always buyers, some times they want to sell the same thing so they watch to see how much it will go for before they put theirs up for sale.. ------------- what? |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 7:04pm
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Yep. Reserves are for little girls. If you want a set price, try the local classifieds. Ebay is for market pricing. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 7:05pm
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oh crap i didn't know the first one had been deleted ive seen tons of people post what they're selling i am in no way intentionaly selling or advertising.
so tecumseh, should i or should i not make it $1? ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: tecumseh
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 7:07pm
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keep it at the price its at, people usually won't buy if you raise the price while they are watching the item. ------------- what? |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 7:09pm
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not it was $20 but like an hour ago i changed it to $1 with a $30 reserve price
should i move it back to 20 them> ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: tecumseh
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 7:12pm
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people will wonder if you keep raising or lowering the prices. just keep it at the $1 mark, and see what happens. and if the reserve isn't met then you know that people aren't interested this week for the item. because you can always try again another time ------------- what? |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 7:30pm
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do i have to pay fees if i don't sell? i mean like the gallery and extra picture fees oh and thanks for taking my word rambino... wont happen again now that i know it's not allowed ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: tecumseh
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 7:34pm
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you paid at the beginning when you first put it up for sale. ------------- what? |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 7:37pm
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oh.... did i...... wow cause im 100% sure i didnt pay for anything maybe it's that holiday deal they advertise about. whatever.... i will post in 3 days with the results ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 7:37pm
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Carl here is what you do: Lower the bid price to 1$ Get a second ebay account. Bid on your own item for around 20$. (People tend to run from items that have reserve prices because they seem so high to begin with but when you start bidding on an item and you have to continue bidding higher and higher to beat another buyer it make your item seam valuable and people become attached to it.) So if someone bids higher than 20$ before near the end of the auction you can bid back higher like now bid 25$ -30$ or so to see if you can get more for it. Don't bid too much and too high in the last seconds because you don't actually want to win your own item, because then you have to pay ebay fees for selling the item (which are nothing for at $20-30 item, but even still). Wait actually, even if you do win your own item, you don't even have to pay yourself (your seller account) with your buyer account for the item. This would mean you wouldn't have to pay for ebay fees with your 1st account (seller account) if you don't want, because you could always report that your 2nd account didn't pay and ebay would refund your ebay fees. |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 8:11pm
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What phil is suggesting is not only in direct violation of Ebay policy, it is also a crime. Yes, crime - as in jail time. Granted a $20 shill-bidding scheme is unlikely to get any attention, that is nevertheless what it is. It is fraud, and it it illegal. People go to jail for auction fraud all the time. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 8:16pm
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I sell tractor loaders and parts on ebay a little, what ive found is that if you try to go on there and sell some stuff you are not gonna get a good price on the first few things you sell, you need to build a rep. Lower the price and after that theirs not much you can do. ------------- 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 9:39pm
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well i lowered the proce to $1 at least now i have a bid (someone bid $1 obviously nowhere close to my reserve) thanks guys hopefully it picks up from here and phil man i like money but i prefer not going to jail. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 9:41pm
Can't you edit his statement out? |
Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 10:10pm
Ya I have never sold any thing on ebay yet. I was going to get a ps3 and sell it and do that but I never ended up getting a ps3 so I only have one account but I always buy stuff off of ebay and I have friends that told me about doing this. So considering I have never done it and that you could go to jail you are right it is probably not a good idea. |
Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 10:30pm
| So, what exactly are you selling?? |
Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 10:42pm
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yea i missed the first part...what was it? |
Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 11:04pm
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Check out the FAQ's on ebay, all your questions will be answered, you that thick?
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 11:12pm
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i was selling this: (hope it is allright to post this) http://ca.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.ca?do=Individual&code=60010999001&orignav=300808 - http://ca.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.ca?do=Individu al&code=60010999001&orignav=300808 ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: tecumseh
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 11:33pm
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your allowed to post that, just not personal selling links ------------- what? |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 11:54pm
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ok ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 12:51am
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why would anyone want that? No offense. But did you actually pay $85 for it? |
Posted By: Simma Down!!
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 7:26am
| leave it the way it is. If it doesnt sell then change it. You can relist it for free if it doesnt sell. |
Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 7:32am
Ok I have a question what is the difference between going and doing this with your own account and having a friend do it for you. It seems like this scheme is probably happening everywhere on eBay ------------- Tuesday starts the weekend... YAYAYA!!!! CHUFF CHUFF |
Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 8:12am
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its still a stupid thing to do. if that happens then both of the people are low lifes ------------- model 98 - homemade handguard solid stock - opsgear mag polished internals homemade sling - paintjob operator barrel progressive barrel opsgear mag - stock |
Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 8:56am
My best friend was the one who told me about it and he said he gets his other friends to do it for him all the time. There would be no proof of fraud, cause the friend (of they accidentally win the auction) could say they paid with cheque or money order or they just simply don't have to pay and can still change the status of the payment from unpaid to paid under their "my ebay" page (without even paying) (and they don't even have to do that either to complete the transaction) because the buyer and seller can still give each other positive feedback and then the transaction is basically over. And then the seller would make a new listing of the same item and try selling it again. (If their friend accidentally won it) Easy as pie. Why would ebay whine about that anyway, they get to keep your listing fees and your selling fees (even if your friend wins the item, because no one would admit to fraud to not pay a $1 or so selling fee - depending on price). Plus the selling fees are higher because your friend bid a price that is high to the price you wanted. And therefore the ebay selling are a little higher. I don't see how ebay could prove it (unless the same friend did it over and over for many of your random auctions), therefore I don't think ebay cares if it's done this way, cause they can't do anything and because they (ebay) ends up making more money because of it. Plus ebay will make even more if your friend won it because you will likely re-list it and then have to pay fees again. |
Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 9:04am
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Just because you can get away with it doesn't make it ok.
And the http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/online/auctions.htm - Federal Trade Commission doesn't like it. ------------- 
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Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 9:08am
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Ya it seems like there is no way to catch this act, unless the same accounts are doing it all the time then they might be able to do anything. And eBay probably doesn't like it because it will just make the buyers unhappy and then if enough of it happens people will stop bidding. I know that, that will never happen but I'm just saying.
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Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 9:12am
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Eventually they're going to make an example of somebody, and I'd hate to be that guy. -------------
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Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 9:22am
saying what? that people will stop bidding... and you say that there will actually always be bidders. Were you trying to prove a point cause you seamed a little wishy-washy? |
Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 9:29am
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I was just saying that buyers feel like this is happening to them they might end up not buying on eBay anymore. But Im sure it won't actually happen
------------- Tuesday starts the weekend... YAYAYA!!!! CHUFF CHUFF |
Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 9:31am
So if you're sure it won't actually happen then what are you really saying? Nothing maybe? 1 - 1 = 0, does it not?  |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 10:08am
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Not only is shill-bidding a crime, but people DO get caught and WILL get caught. It is not nearly as hard to spot as you think. Ebay has a significant fraud department, and spend a lot of effort to catch exactly this type of scheme. While people often do get away with it, just like people get away with other crimes, that doesn't mean that people don't get caught. Auction fraud is just that - fraud. It is illegal and immoral, and there is a very good chance of getting caught. Look up Kenneth Walton while you are at it. Granted that's on a different scale, but it is real nevertheless. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 10:30am
Because eBay has so much stuff on there site and so many people buy/sell stuff daily that even if people do figure out that this is happening im sure they won't go away from buying stuff on eBay. Im sure eBay catches these people all the time but it is hard to catch this act if the person only does it once or twice because it won't raise any flags. This is one of the reasons I just use BIN ------------- Tuesday starts the weekend... YAYAYA!!!! CHUFF CHUFF |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 1:30pm
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BIN? well it's sweet there were 2 bidders fighting to make the minimum bid, they got it it is now exactly $20 and i'm excited once the auction ends i will post so you can all see it, (this wouldn't be sellling right as it's allready ended?) ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 2:05pm
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Buy It Now
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Posted By: tecumseh
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 3:24pm
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see carl, i told you to wait it out and it will raise ------------- what? |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 3:38pm
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thanks man ... still hoping to make $30 for it but obviously not going to adjust it and shaft the people who allready bid. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 04 December 2006 at 4:03pm
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so sweet, it sold for 41 dollars. thanks guys so i sent shipping instructions on sunday. about how long does it usually take for the buyer to pay? how will i know? will it show up in my paypal account automatically? ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 04 December 2006 at 4:06pm
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It will show up in your Paypal account. Depending on your settings, you may get a confirm email from Paypal. How long it takes depends on the buyer. Some pay fast, some pay slow. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 04 December 2006 at 4:10pm
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in your experience what is average? just wondering what's a good time to send out a reminder email? then another..... then another..... then an angry one.... then the death threats... ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Jack Carver
Date Posted: 04 December 2006 at 5:00pm
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I'd e-mail him late tomorrow night if he hasn't paid by then. When I buy on ebay I usually pay right after the auction is over (if shipping rates are posted). |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 3:58pm
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i ususally also pay right after (well... out of the one time that i have bought somethind
ok i will email tonight
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)Posted By: Frankly Mark
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 5:10pm
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I pay as soon as I win so I dont forget. And that IT ships as soon as it can.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 5:12pm
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well its kinda annoying me... i have it all packaged up in a box waiting at my door for payment ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: tecumseh
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 5:14pm
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if they dont pay, give negative feedback and then give a second chance offer to the next highest bidder ------------- what? |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 5:19pm
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how long till i should threaten negative feedback? a week? ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Frankly Mark
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 5:22pm
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5 days at least
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 5:24pm
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a week from the aution sounds fair do you think? they do have lots of good feedback so far so i don't think there's any reason they shouldn't pay if i send a friendly reminder email.
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Posted By: tecumseh
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 5:31pm
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5 days or less i usually say 3 days to pay in my descriptions unless they have a money issue or some other problem then i give them a week ------------- what? |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 5:40pm
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ok i will send an email tonight. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 10:01pm
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sweet, just as i was about to start the email, i got a message from paypal saying the e-cheque has been sent ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 10:21pm
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Heh. "Cheque." More Canadian sillyness! ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 10:33pm
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centre? colour? eh? ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 10:40pm
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Ooh! Ooh! Is it "tire" or "tyre" for Canada? I know it's the latter choice for the Brits. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 11:15pm
"Cheque" is actually proper spelling in America too. 
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 12:27am
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Is it? Wow. My life is a lie... ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 12:35am
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fool detrevni and tyre is just weird
if you think those are weird, just find out how we pronounce lieutenant. it's actually pronounced like leftenant ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Destruction
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 1:04am
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 1:29am
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Nah. I've heard the "leftenant" thing before. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: FROG MAN
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 1:34am
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i hate how americans say foyer fits pronounced foy, eh not foy rer sheesh ------------- <1 meg sig = bad> |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 1:42am
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're good at screwing up languages. Sabot = Say-boh, not sabbot Rapier = rop-i-eh, not rape-ier Etc... ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 07 December 2006 at 10:39pm
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well this is bad also retarted i tried to buy an item for $2 i accidently put in 12 and i can't cancel this, so the auction ends, and i ask the guy nicely to please cancel the bid he gets pissed at me and says he has 2 lawyers on standby and that they will be talking to me soon. i never said i wouldn't pay, just asked him nicely to remove it. so can i actually get in trouble? ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 07 December 2006 at 10:46pm
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No. the guy(more than likely a minor or an adult with a very insufficient education) is bluffing, or has way to much money and has lawyers at his disposal...In which case he wouldn't care about $10. $10. That's $5 per lawyer. HA. Rambs laughs at those inferior (in worth) to him. ------------- 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 07 December 2006 at 10:54pm
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hah whatever it think we got it settled he obviously wont retract its fine though ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |