Tallen’s Custom ’Cocker
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Topic: Tallen’s Custom ’Cocker
Posted By: tallen702
Subject: Tallen’s Custom ’Cocker
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 10:19pm
And to think it all started from this: 
Custom Fade Black Magic Body (from Bud Orr himself!) Shocktech Rat 3:16 AKA matched springs SS quick-chrono hammer kit Kapp Twisted Cocking Rod Kapp one-piece pump arm Kapp venturi bolt (with ez pull bolt pin) DYE Chrome Trigger Frame Belsales Roller Sear Kapp 'K' trigger Shocktech trigger shoe AKA sear spring AKA roller-ball trigger set screws Dye Clear Sticky Grips Psycho Ballistics Chrome Drop Forward ANS Gen-X II Inline Reg Palmer's Quikram Palmer's Quikswitch ANS Jackhammer II LPR Kapp Timing Rod and Collar Kapp Ringtail Beaver-Tail Kapp Stainless Steel Screw Kit Lapco Autospirit (stainless steel) Air America Armageddon Dual Reg 88ci 4500psi HPA/N2 Tank ANS High-Flow Gas-thru bolt (Front Block Bolt) ACi Zero-G Flag Print Barrel 14" (Not pictured) That's what 3 years in a pro-shop gets you back in 99-01 ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
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Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 10:59pm
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I like the original one 10x better
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Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 2:08am
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You spent all that money and did not even get good regulators or a rail and on off?
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Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 3:16am
| We need better pictures. ;) |
Posted By: karll
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 4:11am
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From what I can see, I like it. Bigger/more pics would be cool.
------------- PlentifulBalls "It's cool, I'll be dead before I'm not pretty." Gatyr "Stupid things exist." 
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Posted By: dirtbike14455
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 6:28am
| cool |
Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 7:20am
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Doesnt look too bad. ------------- Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 8:13am
Why the hell would I want a rail? ANS GenX II and Jackhammer II's are just fine, thank you very much, and you don't need an on/off with an Armageddon, however, there is one, I just didn't list it. You need to realize, this marker is probably older than most markers in this forum and I still kick the crap out of 90% of the people I come up against. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
636andy636. wrote:Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 8:42am
While hiding behind trees 1.5" in diameter, no less. |
Posted By: estcstpnt
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 11:24am
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Nice. Looks soooo clean. ------------- Thinking about it... |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 11:25am
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I did that again 3 weeks ago man.... I just don't understand it!
More pics: 
Fully parted (minus valve) 
Rear 
Front block 
Armageddon ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 11:32am
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P.S. I spent maybe.... $300 on the whole thing. Everything else was won in tournament play or given to me from the owners of the various companies. For example, there is a Lapco stainless barrel on the because Colin and I used to deal with each other on a weekly basis. The shocktech Rat 3:16 was a freebie from Rocky as we used to do a lot of business together, and Glenn gave me the quikram when I visited his shop in Sacramento. I picked up the body from Budd at the Zapp IAO in Cranberry back in '01. Lots of memories in that sucker. I'm never going to let go of it either. I do have some parts I'm giving out to our two builders in the build-off though. DeTrevini and Barrel Break. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 12:51pm
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And it's greatly appreciated! I also don't think I mentioned how nice that 'cocker is, so: That's a beautiful 'cocker! Hard to believe that whole rig cost you around $300... ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 1:38pm
can't believe no one has commented on the color scheme. Even the 3-way lp lines are red, white (clear), and blue.  ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: hwayhzrd
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 4:38pm
It's a canadian thing ...  ------------- If I flee, kill me If I die, avenge me |
Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 4:45pm
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I like the Jackhammer, but that's about it. Sorry
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Posted By: karll
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 6:21pm
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Looks like you could use a new bolt.
------------- PlentifulBalls "It's cool, I'll be dead before I'm not pretty." Gatyr "Stupid things exist."
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 6:56pm
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I'm thinking about going delrin, I'll send the old one to barrel break if I do since DeTrevini got the valve and springs and whatnot ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 8:03pm
ANS regulators are quite horrible. That drop puts your wrist at a messed angle and will make your gun way to tall. Rails feel better than drop forwards. Get a delrin bolt too. See the anodizing worn on the bolt? thats from friction. Your wearing away the aluminum on the inside of your body. Age of the marker does not matter. Its the player. Give me a spyder and ill kick butt. Give me a DM6 and I will still kick butt. How much does it weigh fully loaded with a full loader and full fill? 10-11 pounds? ------------- [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/anthonymartinez/402cdjo-1.gif"> |
Posted By: G|zmo
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 10:47pm
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That would look so awesomre if you put a red CCM pump kit on it! ------------- Just add water 
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 11:44pm
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So, since ANS sucks, you know, that's why I consistenly chrono 192 over
and over again huh? I'm also running at 225psi input. But that must suck. Listen Andy, if I wanted someone to tell me what to put on my marker, I'd have asked. However, this one is pretty much finished with the exception of maintenance and the possibility of parts getting worn out. I've been a certified tech for years, I got paid to do this all throughout college. Have you ever been over to Kapp's shop in Santa Rosa? Or taken a tour with Glenn Palmer in Sac? Talked with Colin Lapco on a regular basis, or walked through tech support with Rocky Cagnoni (while he was inevitably getting high?) I seriously doubt it. If you read my earlier reply rather than just skipping through the thread like an illiterate 14 year old on his mom's Dell, you'd see that the thing that makes me proud about this marker is the history behind it and the people that were involved in it's production. I don't want your opinion on parts, so keep them to yourself. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 12:11am
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Sorry, Andy, but that classifies as royal pwnage. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 1:02am
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Wow, took way too much offense to his post. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 1:35am
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No real offense taken, just wonder why some people have to always try
and make themselves look better by putting other people's work down. Oh, and I could put a freaking gas-thru grip on that marker and it'd still be regulated down to 225psi input due to the fact that the Armageddon has one of the most rock-solid adjustable output rates that you can find. Anywho, I'm going to get everything in perfect working order again (Glenn is sending me a rebuild kit for the 3-way today) and then it's on to the next project. I just picked up this little gem for $172.00 NOW I will start taking suggestions..... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&ih=016&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item= 260057482568&rd=1&rd=1 ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 3:06am
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=016&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=260057482568&rd=1&rd=1 - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=016& ;sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=26005748 2568&rd=1&rd=1 ^^^ For the lazy. Great price. I don't know much about 'Trixes, but I hear as long as you keep it greased, it'll last you a while. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 8:11am
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170 for that is nice for that. good find
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Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 9:53am
Red white and blue? No one commented because it's obviously colored with the French flag in mind. And no one likes the French. I bet you carry a white flag with you for tournaments. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 9:58am
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Nah, just a pink mask
I wonder though, if the DM3 will offer me superior 1.25" diameter tree shielding like the 'cocker does. You've gotta make sure it's got those kinds of features after all. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Project Irene
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 3:54pm
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Very nice job. |
Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 7:49pm
ANS has had horrible quality control since the start of there crappy company. The reason you get consistency like that is because of the regulator on your bottle. Who needs to hang with big names in the business of paintball to put together a great gun? Uh I'm seventeen not fourteen. I am on my own computer that I paid for. I shoot a gun I paid for. I drive a truck that I paid for and do maintenance on. And for everyones information. That gun started life as a stock black magic cocker. Not milled from that picture of the stock 1999 side feed cocker. Id rather spend my money on playing rather than touring the country to get tours of the manufacturer shops ------------- [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/anthonymartinez/402cdjo-1.gif"> |
Posted By: FROG MAN
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 8:55pm
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its allright, not my thing, i hate the drop and that reg ------------- <1 meg sig = bad> |
Posted By: STOcocker
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 9:04pm
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Wait wait wait I know I haven't played at a field in awhile, but I'm pretty sure that you can shoot up to 300 fps most places (280 some). So why are you shooting at 192? Indoor field? |
Posted By: swampthing
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 9:32am
+1 |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 11:17am
Now, any more questions? ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: karll
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 11:41am
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Not trying to pick any fights, I am just curious. Is there anything from the original marker on the finished one? ------------- PlentifulBalls "It's cool, I'll be dead before I'm not pretty." Gatyr "Stupid things exist."
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Posted By: glazener24
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 3:01pm
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Um...I don't know what you expected from an online forum, but that is what happens here. You post your gun, we comment on what we like and don't like. Pretty simple process actually. And I think Andy has been right on most of the things he has said, all I have seen you do is throw around names of important people in paintball, make comments on ages (which is completely irrelevant to the matter at hand), and make childish remarks about intelligence levels. It seems to me that you are the one being immature, not Andy. |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 3:10pm
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Sigh. A flame war. Great. He's got the 'cocker set up just the way he likes it, and if he doesn't want to add anymore, then he doesn't have to. Andy's suggestions my have been right, they may not have. Oh well. If anyone's feelings have been hurt, suck it up. I don't want to see this kind of crap between the senior members. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 4:28pm
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Nah Karll, the only stock part on there is a cocking-rod doughnut since kapp doesn't supply one. Even that isn't original though.
Glazener, it's all good man, my personal philosophy on internet arguments is that they're pretty pointless, but they can be fun! I really don't care that much what anyone thinks one way or the other, as I've said and as DeTrevni has re-asserted, I've got it set up the way I like it (well, almost, I can't stand the belsales roller sear, should have never switched out the AKALMP sear) and it's a done project. What I can't stand though, are people who just spout off and don't say anything to back up their info. Honestly, most of the guys who's names I've mentioned aren't really involved with their companies, or the sport for that matter, anymore. Colin was ousted by the board about 6 months ago, Budd sold out, and Glenn doesn't do a whole lot but grumble at you if you mention anything about materials other than palmer's anymore. The age comment comes into the discussion due to the fact that this is an extremely old project (by paintball standards) and has been finished for some time. Who, with the exception of extremely experienced people who were around and handled the harware that is on that marker, really has the right to say that something "sucks"? In all honesty, I'm just egging him on. It's a bit fun really! ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 11:44pm
Calling me immature? Your the one arguing because I dissed your marker. FYI its Colin Thompson not Colin Lapco. Do not get me started on firearms, I have more than I need multiples of each cal .22, .308, 30-30, 30-06, 12 gauge and I am thinking about purchasing a AR-15. Good job making a scene over a typo of mine because I put gun instead of marker. If they all started out as blocks as aluminum then my Series 5 started life as a Matrix, Or Intimidator Or god forbid a WGP cocker body. I know what a side feed is. I am not totally retarded when it comes to paintball. I am not some speedballing kid that has no clue what a Splatmaster or the nelsplat 007 is and has a new marker bought for him each month by his parents. What I meant by spending money playing is by using the money I have put aside for paintball. I am going to stop arguing. You're not worth the time to argue. If you were mature you would have done the same thing on my second or third post in your thread Oh yeah, Don't leave your marker cocked like that in the first picture. You are only reducing the life of your drive spring. ------------- [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/anthonymartinez/402cdjo-1.gif"> |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 03 December 2006 at 9:11am
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It's not cocked, it's just a longer cocking rod, It is nel-spot, not nel-splat,
but it's semantics. In all honesty, I was just egging you on, I was writing most of the stuff I wrote with a pretty big smile on my face.
Seriously, though, it isn't the best idea to go around and just unload "this or that sucks" on someone else's work or property. There is a big difference between Constructive criticism and being critical of something. Trust me, I know ANS doesn't make the best regulators in the business, but compared to a lot of the regs that used to be out there, they hold their own. Even when I was using a N2Duck pre-out bottle, it stood rock-solid in conjunction with the lp-valve. The Jackhammer was DEFINATELY a lot better than any of the other options out there as well, with the exception of a rock. The AR-15 is a good rifle, btw, the only issue I've ever had with any of them is that they don't tend to perform well in dry-dusty conditions. Keep the dust-cover down on it whenever you aren't firing it, though, and you should be fine. My personal fav when it comes to .223 Remmington is the mini-14. It's just more versitile than anything else out there. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: lilsully4
Date Posted: 03 December 2006 at 12:37pm
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I actually really like it... ------------- 
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Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 04 December 2006 at 2:28am
I am in Canada so the AR is a range rifle only so conditions will be dry. I am not a fan of the mini 14. Never have been a fan. ------------- [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/anthonymartinez/402cdjo-1.gif"> |
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 04 December 2006 at 3:07pm
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Nice cocker. Slider represent! I could make you a better bolt though :) ------------- 
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 07 December 2006 at 6:14pm
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love the slider. nice work, although i'm not to keen on the scheme. i agree it needs a pump kit and a delron bolt, but whatever floats your boat. ------------- X |