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*Considering* Upgrading to HPA

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Topic: *Considering* Upgrading to HPA
Posted By: Snick
Subject: *Considering* Upgrading to HPA
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 9:35pm

Hi everyone, as the topic says, I am currently thinking of upgrading to an HPA tank. however I have a couple questions.

I know the rule of thumb for how many shots you get for HPA is the number of In.^3 X 10 or 15 depending upon 3k or 4.5k PSI. However, is this general rule going to help true for an A-5? the reason I ask is the A-5 uses a generious portion of gas, and also requires a high output, so at what point would I run low on gas?

Also, I run a remote so the weight of the tank does not really matter much to me, and I dont want to spend an arm and a leg getting a tank. The reason I say this is that I know a steel 3k tank will cost much less than a fiber 4.5k, so would you guys say its a good idea for me to get just a 3k steel tank?

Finally, what size/brand would you all suggest? again remember I run remote and dont care much about the weight of the tank, I just want to know what you all would say is the best deal in terms of what I would need.

thank you for any help or suggestions you can provide



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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 9:41pm

A-5s vary widely in their gas consumption. What do you get out of a 20 oz.?

You would run low on gas when your tank pressure drops below what the gun needs to operate correctly (700-800 area). A steel 3k will hold very little air. Spend more, and you get more capacity and less weight. DO NOT CHEAP OUT. A 47/3k would get you 2 hoppers, maybe.

Crossfire or PMI.



Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 1:59am
If you are carrying it on your back then go for a large tank...such as an 80/4500 or 90/4500. They are available used through Ebay usually for much less than say a 68/4500 because most people don't want a tank that big attached to the marker...so demand is less and the resale price may be much lower...mine was.

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Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 8:20am
Originally posted by Snick Snick wrote:

Hi everyone, as the topic says, I am currently thinking of upgrading to an HPA tank. however I have a couple questions.

I know the rule of thumb for how many shots you get for HPA is the number of In.^3 X 10 or 15 depending upon 3k or 4.5k PSI. However, is this general rule going to help true for an A-5? the reason I ask is the A-5 uses a generious portion of gas, and also requires a high output, so at what point would I run low on gas? You can't really say there is a general rule for how much you can get out of a tank. Each marker is different, an a5 depending what you have on it like qev, rt stuff like that you will get less. I would say a 68/45 you should get about 1000 rounds. And you run low at the same point you run out at co2 which normally your cyclone turns off around 300psi

Also, I run a remote so the weight of the tank does not really matter much to me, and I dont want to spend an arm and a leg getting a tank. The reason I say this is that I know a steel 3k tank will cost much less than a fiber 4.5k, so would you guys say its a good idea for me to get just a 3k steel tank? You will get much less air out of a 3k, and you might need to buy a new remote if its not a nitro remote. (I'm not sure if there is a difference in those remotes but I would do it just to be sure)

Finally, what size/brand would you all suggest? again remember I run remote and dont care much about the weight of the tank, I just want to know what you all would say is the best deal in terms of what I would need. Go for a 68/45 or higher get a Crossfire or PMI pretty cheap and really good regulators

thank you for any help or suggestions you can provide



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Posted By: Snick
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 8:54am
whats the diffrence between a "nitro remote" and a regular one? I havent seen any remotes made specially for HPA, so an example of one would be nice.

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Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 11:58am
Im not sure if there is a difference

3k remote
http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=eRySADbKS0mS6HO6J6ZSqDwDxrPrCZglodw=?ProductID=EXasFAY79SYAAAD4ZazkrFs5 - http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/S tore/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=eRySADbKS0 mS6HO6J6ZSqDwDxrPrCZglodw=?ProductID=EXasFAY79SYAAAD4ZazkrFs 5

Regular remote
http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=eRySADbKS0mS6HO6J6ZSqDwDxrPrCZglodw=?ProductID=kHesFAY7xNMAAAD3jHalA_2t - http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/S tore/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=eRySADbKS0 mS6HO6J6ZSqDwDxrPrCZglodw=?ProductID=kHesFAY7xNMAAAD3jHalA_2 t


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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 1:09pm
the 3kpsi means that the line has a burst-strength of 3,000psi that's all. And if you're putting 3kpsi into your marker... well.... you've got a lot more to worry about than your remote.

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Posted By: Snick
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 3:17pm

Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

the 3kpsi means that the line has a burst-strength of 3,000psi that's all. And if you're putting 3kpsi into your marker... well.... you've got a lot more to worry about than your remote.

agreed. and the remote I have is rated at 3k anyways.



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Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 03 December 2006 at 5:24pm
I saw a video where this guy ran almost 3k (scuba tank, direct hookup, regulator wide-open) direct to his automag. It worked. I was amazed.

Almost 3k cause the tank was not completely full, and every shot decreased the pressure slightly.

Ill try to find the link.


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