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Topic: Help with hopper choices
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Subject: Help with hopper choices
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 11:08pm

i am asking for a hopper for christmas

i want a halo b

action village seems to have 3 choices,

normal halo b: $98

with rip drive: $103

with rip drive and v35 board: $140

so i need to know what the difference is between each and which one is the best.

also is an empire b better?

also, how is the halo activated? is it by sound like the empire? and the empire seems to hold 20 extra balls.



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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 11:43pm
The Halo is not activated by sound. I would go with the Halo B w/ rip drive. I havent heard much about the v35 board and you probably wont be shooting fast enough to need it.

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 12:08am

how is the halo activated?

would i be shooting fast enough with a carnivore?

 

is feed rate all the v35 changes?

 



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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 1:56am

Halo Bs work in this fashion: There is a set of eyes (bounce beam, but theres 2 eye sensors) that sit in the raceway. These watch the stack, and when the stack moves (ie, a ball has been fired, and gravity pushes a ball into the breech) the eyes send a signal to the board and tell it to spin the motor and thus rewind the drive spring, putting another ball in the queue and keeping tension on the stack.

Empire Bs and B2s do not have eyes, but instead they have a microphone on the board that hears the gun fire, and then performs the motor spin operation like the Halo.

B2s are more sensitive to quiet guns than the B. B2 also has adjustable speed settings.

I prefer the B over anything less than a Cheetahd or Angried Halo. I have not used a B2, but it is very similar to the B, but faster and more adjustable.

The Rip Drive Halo is the same as a regular Halo but has a longer drive shaft that facilitates the implementation of a manual feed wheel that will allow you to unjam and manually feed balls if your batts die or if you just dont want to waste power at the chrono.

V35 boards work the same as a stock Halo board, but have 6 speeds, ranging from 17 to a mythical 35 bps. Other than the speeds, it is the same as the stock board. High settings eat batteries like candy, though.

Reloaders have the same shells as Halos, and do not hold more than their counterpart.

If you get a Reloader, you can put a Halo board (cheetah, angry, v35) in it, and all you need to do that is an eye harness. My hopper was once a Reloader B, but I got wallet happy and totally pimped the crap out of it with Halo stuff. Still have the Reloader shells though.

Don't worry about outrunning your Karni with any Halo based loader.

Any more questions? 



Posted By: karll
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 2:04am
yea, v35 only offers feedrate changes. it has 6 different modes 17-35 bps. it also eats batteries. i own a halob/rip/v35. i like it. i say go for one. it should suit you just fine.




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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 2:25am

so ive read a bit around this:

are dark balls not detected by the halo?



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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 2:26am

Somewhat of a bloated/over hyped problem, but yes. Cheetahs are the best at detecting black or clear paint.



Posted By: Awesomeman
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 2:51am
first, you grab a hammer. Then smash the crap outa your gun! Then all 4 of those hoppers will appear in the mail. It works,try it

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 12:24pm

real funny awesomeman!

so would i be better with empire b or cheetah with rip?



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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 1:44pm
I'd go with the Cheetah'd Halo B w/ Rip.

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 1:52pm

where do you buy one?

 



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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 1:56pm

TAG doesn't make Cheetahs anymore, so you'd have to find one used. Be wary of the new V3s, because they can be blenders. Try to stick with a V2, which might be cheaper as well.

The Reloader B would be more than sufficient, though, so don't go all out if you don't have the need.



Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 1:59pm

about how many shots is a cheetah good for?

and the classic halo with rip drive?



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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 2:09pm
Speedwise?


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 2:31pm

no batterywise



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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 2:37pm
Reloader would be better becausse it runs on a lower voltage.


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 2:54pm

any chance you can give me # of shots?

are we talking thousands?

 



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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 6:49pm
ABout 6 cases for the Cheetah, maybe a little more on the Reloader depending on the speed it's on.


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 03 December 2006 at 3:07am

that's alot!

thanks man

that's it



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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 03 December 2006 at 6:00pm
does it come with rechargeable battery/charger?

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Posted By: Ken Majors
Date Posted: 03 December 2006 at 7:24pm
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

does it come with rechargeable battery/charger?


No they use 6 AA batteries.
You can get (or build) a 9 volt conversion that will allow you to run off of 2 9volt batteries.


May want to read this before purchasing the Angry board upgrade.

http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/loaders/angryhalo/ - Angry Halo Review -Warpig

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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 03 December 2006 at 9:23pm

Always use 6AAs or an aftermarket rechargeable pack. 9v mods are notoriously inefficient.

I HATE the way warpig tests their hoppers.



Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 03 December 2006 at 9:27pm

oh thanks

um.... what do you think of the z-board?

and does the speed feed only really work well if you use pods? can i use it for standard loading out of bags?



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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 03 December 2006 at 9:34pm

Z CODE.

The speedfeed works off weight (weight of the paint in the pods pushes the paint past the tines) but if you load from a bag it would be a little tricky.



Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 03 December 2006 at 9:35pm
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Posted By: mess cow
Date Posted: 03 December 2006 at 9:44pm

i am going to get a halo b with rip for my impulse it will be fast engoth i am going to get vison for it so that's all i need

 



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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 03 December 2006 at 9:47pm
any more good mods anyone can thing of for the halo that i can ask for?

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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 03 December 2006 at 10:30pm

It's a Z-code board. Call it a Z-board and it will be confused with the Eggs Z-board.

Delrin drive cone (Zenitram, Critical, Hybrid) and a delrin spring cup (Critical.) Good batteries (E2 Lithium AAs or a Bone or Boost li-ion pack.)



Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 03 December 2006 at 10:38pm

out of here do you mind tel ing me what the best drive cone is?

http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/S tore/en/-/USD/BrowseCatalog-Start;sid=m44Y1pdWuLoY0dIlDEDYfp 3wPs6tCjm5Q04=?CategoryName=paintball-gun-loaders-and-access ories-loader-accessories-odyssey-halo-loader-accessories - http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/S tore/en/-/USD/BrowseCatalog-Start;sid=m44Y1pdWuLoY0dIlDEDYfp 3wPs6tCjm5Q04=?CategoryName=paintball-gun-loaders-and-access ories-loader-accessories-odyssey-halo-loader-accessories

and what are the advantages of a z-code board?



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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 03 December 2006 at 10:45pm

Go for the S4 or the Hybrid.

Z-code is the bottom of the barrel Halo board (unless you go way back, and get a pre 2k3 Halo), so there's really no advantages to it.



Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 03 December 2006 at 10:55pm

what about:

http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=zzUcN_9Wh0gcD7olVbzcn_Wfh1o5JCYch30=?ProductID=Q0LAqArbFHoAAAEMxf40DDVn - http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/S tore/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=zzUcN_9Wh0 gcD7olVbzcn_Wfh1o5JCYch30=?ProductID=Q0LAqArbFHoAAAEMxf40DDV n



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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 04 December 2006 at 12:04am
It's fine, but don't buy one until you break your stock rip wheel.


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 04 December 2006 at 12:17am
ok

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Posted By: Connmann
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 9:29pm
if you do feel somewhat crazed and loaded (and i do know that I'm a little bit too late) try the Q-loader because from what I've heard impy's and practically anything that runs on LP will work quite nicely.

Just a suggestion *plz dont flame me*


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 10:10pm

i ordered a qloader once

it never came, was supposed to get here in a week, i called them a month later, they said it was lost and to call back soon, one week later they say it's been lost and they are sending it priority, 2 weeks later i cancel and tell them how bad their customer service is (but using.......um.... style words)

but it's a good idea and you are right, but think about it, i am spending $150cdn on a halo, a qloader is $100cdn

anything is good with the q regardless of pressure

so it's actually a good price.



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