RIP John Lennon
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Topic: RIP John Lennon
Posted By: Cedric
Subject: RIP John Lennon
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 12:02am
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October 9th, 1940 - December 8th, 1980 Lennon was a great man. It's sad to see the world without him. Thank you, John Lennon, for the good times. I am the Walrus: http://youtube.com/watch?v=0yNcE8c3j2M&mode=related&search= - http://youtube.com/watch?v=0yNcE8c3j2M&mode=related& search= Imagine: http://youtube.com/watch?v=f18iq21EamE&mode=related&search= - http://youtube.com/watch?v=f18iq21EamE&mode=related& search= Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_lennon - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_lennon ------------- 
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Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 12:07am
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Posted By: Hella Cool
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 12:09am
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War is over. If you want it. |
Posted By: Squishey
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 12:10am
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we all live in a yellow submarine....at least i do.
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Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 12:12am
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 12:19am
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i would say fail for payback but.. i just can't john lennon was an amazing man
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 1:02am
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Can't say I'm a fan, but w/e.
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 1:03am
Who would you say is better, Offspring or The Beatles? ------------- 
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High Voltage wrote:Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 1:05am
Niether. Great sig BTW. ------------- |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 1:12am
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Ah I see Cedric has spread the word that I don't like the Beatles. As we discussed this in chat, he seemed to get somewhat of a hardon for putting words in my mouth. I assume it is his life goal now to nitpick this to death. And to answer your question, whale, I do not like the Beatles, so I would rather listen to the Offspring. Cedric, you are such a sad, pitiful child. I won't go so far as to say this is "low" but it sure isn't one of your high points of achievement.. -------------
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Posted By: easy123
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 1:13am
lol |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 1:15am
Answer the question. Who do you think is better? -------------
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 1:20am
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I did answer your question, I'm sorry you have such trouble reading implied meanings. I think the Offspring are better than the Beatles. Now what might drive me to say that you ask? Simple, I do not like the Beatles. And to be truthful there is no right or wrong answer to which band is better, it is purely opinion.
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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 1:21am
I'd take you over both of them HV. I <{ HV. ------------- |
Posted By: Santa Chewp
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 1:47am
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I heart the Beatles
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 1:49am
I would like everyone on the forum to take a moment and let this soak in. -------------
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 1:53am
Yes whale, ask me to compare a band I stated I did not like to a band I do like just so you can quote me out of context. That's two people to have shown their asses over a matter of opinion, shall we have more to add to that list? -------------
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Posted By: easy123
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 2:00am
*soaking* |
Posted By: Razgriz Ghost
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 9:17am
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Why do we care if one kid who hasn't probebly heard less than a forth of the beetles music likes them? |
Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 10:05am
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I watched a documentary on him again last week. I still remember the day he died I was in the hospital. He was such a great man. ------------- 
-JUSTICE http://www.myspace.com/outkastpaintball - Outkast Myspace |
Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 1:01pm
 he was a great man------------- 
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Posted By: White o Light
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 1:47pm
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Seeing as The Offspring influenced generations of musicians and defined a generation im gonna have to say they are like 200000X better.
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 2:26pm
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Yes, because the only reason we are supposed to like something is how many people it affected... That is the logic behind why people like Idols, and if you idolize a band, that's fine. I don't idolize musicians, nothing against them as people, I just put my admiration towards nobler principles than being able to carry a tune. You guys are idolizing the Beatles, and gettign bent out of shape because I do not share your view. However you ask me which band is better, and as I said I like the Offspring more than the Beatles. Now what you can't get through your head, as I have stated many times, that I am basing my judgement on how the songs sound, not how influencial they were. <Cedric> how cn you not like them <High_Voltage> pretty sure that equates to me asking you how you can like them <High_Voltage> differing tastes in music, i don't listen to old <expletive> like that <DaveEllis> Well <DaveEllis> Considering the beatles set the picture of modern music <DaveEllis> They go far past taste <High_Voltage> no, not really <DaveEllis> To deprecate their artistic influence would be foolish <High_Voltage> me choosing to listen to something is purely taste <DaveEllis> They even influenced rap <High_Voltage> i never said they weren't influencial <Cedric> they influenced <expletive> everything <High_Voltage> did i? <High_Voltage> no, i said they sucked <High_Voltage> which comes from my musical taste <tom> i vote not enough cowbell Upon further inspection, I find people's admiration of the Beatles is comparable to blind faith.. like religion. I'm stepping back from that, and judging them on how they sound. I am done with this argument, I have made my point, strongly, many times. No logical or rational counterpoint has been made, I'm done. -------------
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Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 2:33pm
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It's fine for you to say that you don't enjoy listening to them. But there's no way you can deny that they were amazing at what they did. And for you to say "I think the offspring is better than The Beatles" just because you prefer listening to one over the other would be like me saying, "I think Dan Brown is better than Shakespeare" because I enjoyed reading The Da Vinci code more than reading Hamlet.* And to say that their influence is irrelevant is the stupidest goddamn thing I've ever heard. *Just an example, I refuse to read The Da Vinci Code. -------------
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 2:38pm
Not which one you like better. Which do you think is overall better? -------------
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 2:39pm
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musical taste is one thing. musical appreciation is completely different. |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 2:40pm
And I do believe our friend HV is lacking both. -------------
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Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 2:42pm
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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 2:53pm
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R.I.P.
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Posted By: Rustic
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 2:59pm
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Wait a second. Disagreeing with you is "Blind faith" making you stand out as better and smarter than those who have a high level of appreciation for a band whose music managed to transcend decades, and move their fan base from generation to generation? your opinion is one thing, but to say that those who carry different opinions are 'blindly' following the masses 'like religion' is NOT a strongly made point, its a vote for arrogance. How exactly does a band's influence NOT come into play when discussing the fervor with with they are followed and enjoyed by so many people? Condensing your argument, one hears this: "I don't like the Beatles, they're music sucks. Oh sure, they're influential, but they're not any good, and their fans are sheep." Interesting indeed. ------------- 
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 3:10pm
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whale, musical taste is different for everyone. I try not to go after musical tastes of people. there's good bands from each genre and i hope that they are the ones you listen to. whatever. One can not like a certain type of music, but should be able to appreciate what that band has done to influence the music industry as a whole. Or in some cases, what they haven't done. |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 3:12pm
Thats me. I don't care for the Beatles in the aspect that I do not put them on to listen to them. I do, however, respect them for what they have done, think the are some of the best artists of the modern age, and are certainly better than most of the bands I listen to. -------------
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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 3:14pm
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I love how whale completly mischaracterized what HV actualy said and no one sais anything.
All HV is saying; He's not a beetles fan, given any two probable options, he would choose the one that is not the beetles. That's it, it's not hard to understand... He just doesn't like them. ------------- |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 3:16pm
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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 3:22pm
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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 3:44pm
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John Lennon would frown at this.
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 3:46pm
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Yeah, let's keep the fighting out of this. There's a time and place for everything, and this isn't it. -------------
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Posted By: STOcocker
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 5:07pm
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R.I.P. He made amazing music. And to end the debate, he was very musically talented. Anyone who denies that is an idiot. |
Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 6:34pm
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I think the Beetles suck. It's one of the few Rock & Roll bands that I really dont care for. Specially when they went all Hippy Sgt. pepper and all that Mickey Mouse stuff. I never brought one of their records and the ones i have gotten I have given away or trashed. That's just personal taste.
As a Human being I have no feelings either way agaisnt John Lennon. To me he he's grupped together with all them hippies. On his message I have read and chuckled. All those hippie thoughs and feelinsg always come to a screeching halt at the end of a rifle. That's the way the world works, no matter how peachy and groovie your intentions are you always need a few rought men willing to do acts of extreme violence to protect it. ------------- 
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Posted By: White o Light
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 7:29pm
My god, you rule. -------------
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 8:15pm
Really now?  -------------
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Posted By: White o Light
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 8:24pm
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Oh Snap
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Posted By: Razgriz Ghost
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 8:25pm
| OH THE MP! |
Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 9:07pm
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That's because they knew they wouldn't fire. The one they did was at Kent State in 1970. Thou I doubt they would stick those flowers say ... a Soviet Soldier's Barrel or any other country with little reguards for human life. Let's say China or North Korea.
Everyone is alwasy brave when you know your safe. Same reason why college kids sound off to cops because they know that about 99% of the time nothing will happend. It's that 1% of the time that people act shocked. But in places like in Tiananmen Square the true realities of how the world works came all too clear. Same reason why Dictators get away with atrosoties every year. No matter what good will you have nothing will change untill someone decided to kill and die for that ideal. -------------
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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 10:11pm
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Ho ho...
No one rips on Evil Elvis for his opinion, be you all felt free to put HV around the rink. Bunch of band wagon jumpers. ------------- |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 10:55pm
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Posted By: Thatoneguy123
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 11:37pm
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John Lennon FTW
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 12:15am
How's the macho attitude working for you? -------------
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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 9:20am
Tae, quit your crap. You can get your panties all in a knot when you disagree with some one, but the second some one disagrees with you, you post the same response. I dont give a hell if your sarcastic or not... It's annoying. ------------- |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 10:35am
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Stealth.. you're annoying as balls. You've just been latching onto everyone's crotches in this thread.
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Posted By: Razgriz Ghost
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 10:36am
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Talk about calling the kettle black not you cedric, stealth |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 11:01am
I love the irony of Stealth leaving the picture quoted while once again trying to make the internet serious business. -------------
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Posted By: Razgriz Ghost
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 11:06am
| that's some serious serious business. |
Posted By: White o Light
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 11:31am
I'm ripping on Evil Elvis for his opinion. And I doubt HV will give you anymore BJs for sticking up for him here. -------------
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Posted By: Razgriz Ghost
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 4:06pm
| Holy hell owned |
Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 5:09pm
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It's nothing to do with Macho. More about being real. As none of you could counter a point to Tiananmen Square or other countless times when protestets lost to violence. It's the same comcept with communism and socialism always sounds great in paper and in theory but it never works in real life.
Cling to your icons as you's like it still doesn't change anything after all all of John Lennon's words where finally silenced by Mark Chapman. Now granted Mark Champman didn't kill John Lennon because he disagreed with his Social and Political views. -------------
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Posted By: White o Light
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 5:12pm
His words were never silenced. That fact SHOULD have been made obvious by the fact that we have a thread honoring him. People still learn from and teach the words of Lennon every day. Educate yourself. -------------
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Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 5:12pm
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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 5:33pm
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QUOTE]His words were never silenced. That fact SHOULD have been made obvious by the fact that we have a thread honoring him. People still learn from and teach the words of Lennon every day. Educate yourself.[/QUOTE]
We have threads here ranging from spray on condoms, The Westboro Baptist Chuch will every was quick to want to Maim and Kill (not that I disagree) but not very Lennon-like, Dave Ellis being waken up by Fire Alarms to anything. I don't need to educate myself on Lennon's teachings just as you dont need to educate yourself on what I seen first hand in the world. From Ethnic Clensings in Bosnia to Civil War in Africa that we could had easily stop but we didnt intervene since 'it wasnt our war'as a Colonel told me. That is why I belive what I do. I have seen that words are just wasted breath unless backed up by any kind of action. A lot of people like to Protest and make statements yet not many actually take a stand. Many cry about the humane conditions in China yet they all shop in WalMart. Many hate president G.W. Bush yet even with a high Number of voter turn out last year he managed to get relected and many people. Specially among my background,many Hispanics didn't vote. Yet many i know that didnt vote are the ones I hear complaining. I know the "stolen" election is going to be thrown up. I have read some of the claims. Some evidence is disturbing but I havent read enough on it to form my own opinion on the matter. -------------
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Posted By: White o Light
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 5:39pm
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The quality of thread on here doesn't negate the fact that Lennon lives on. And I guess I just have the same question as Cedric, How is being macho treating you?
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Posted By: hwayhzrd
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 5:42pm
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This thread has ceased being worthwhile, and is in dire danger of being shut
down. Lennon is gone, Yoko still blows, and Dimebag Darrel was worth more than the both of them together. Fini .... ------------- If I flee, kill me If I die, avenge me |
Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 5:45pm
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I CONCUR SIR HIGHWAY.
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Posted By: White o Light
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 5:52pm
METAL!??!! -------------
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 6:09pm
I don't know if I'm getting what you're saying. Are you saying that a grown man named dimebag was better than the visionary John Lennon who just wanted a better place for everyone to live in? -------------
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Posted By: White o Light
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 6:13pm
Simple answer Yes -------------
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Posted By: hwayhzrd
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 6:51pm
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John Lennon has to be one of the most overhyped people that ever lived.
He made some good music, yeah, but I'm sorry, he hadn't been relevant in any way for years until he DIED. Trust me, I was alive for during that period, unlike many of you. I am sorry he died, it was a sad thing, but how he has been romanticized in the media is nothing short of mind-boggling. Believe whatever you wish about him, and I will continue to do the same. ------------- If I flee, kill me If I die, avenge me |