Saddam
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Topic: Saddam
Posted By: choopie911
Subject: Saddam
Date Posted: 26 December 2006 at 10:12pm
| To be killed in under 30 days. Discuss |
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Posted By: lilsully4
Date Posted: 26 December 2006 at 10:13pm
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Good, but thats just my opinion ------------- 
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Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 26 December 2006 at 10:13pm
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That's the cheap way out.
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 26 December 2006 at 10:14pm
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Outstanding. That makes me OORAH Motivated. How are they going to do it? ------------- 
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Posted By: blackdog144
Date Posted: 26 December 2006 at 10:16pm
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their going to hang him...
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Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 26 December 2006 at 10:19pm
| Suddan Hussein = So damn Insane |
Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 26 December 2006 at 10:21pm
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lilsully4 wrote:Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 26 December 2006 at 10:22pm
| Yeah, hanging. They're keeping it hush hush, so people likely wont know where, or when it takes place until after the fact. |
Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 26 December 2006 at 11:07pm
| I want to see it. |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 26 December 2006 at 11:17pm
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So after that everything will be fine and we can all go back to our lives and sleep well knowing "justice" has been done right? If so, awesome. If not, meh. Just more killing.... -------------  |
Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 26 December 2006 at 11:19pm
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Hanging? Pffft, that's a little too 19th century, I say we stone him or draw and quarter him.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 26 December 2006 at 11:21pm
| I was personally hoping for catapault |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 26 December 2006 at 11:24pm
| I can't wait until the 31st day where we can watch it on youtube with some background music and maybe some editing effects. |
Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 26 December 2006 at 11:25pm
| they issued that over 30 days ago....they're never going to actually do it |
Posted By: blackdog144
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 1:11am
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the weird and stupid thing is is that hes being hanged for something he did in 1983. When he was an ally with us....
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 1:19am
Um no, it was news this morning |
Posted By: Rock Slide
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 1:19am
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That's why politicians need to do what's right and not convenient. It always comes back to bite you in the ass. ------------- I bring annihilation and cheap red wine! |
Posted By: Thatoneguy123
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 1:37am
| Woohooo Parrrtyyyy. I just dont want to see the video. |
Posted By: FROG MAN
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 2:58am
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i still dont think the death penaltie should even be around and remeber 100% of what i know about him is american propaganda, so i take it lightley ------------- <1 meg sig = bad> |
Posted By: CarbineKid
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 6:33am
 American Propaganda??
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 7:03am
Um, K? I believe Saddam's atrocities are pretty well internationally documented, and as far as the death penalties go, the Iraqi people have well earned their right to put that dog down. I believe that there are videos out there Saddam kept of using gas on newborn babies...he doesn't deserve to live... And it's "penalty", "lightly" and "remember". ------------- 
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 7:10am
Um no. Yes, some is obviously americanized, biased, etc...but you cant say 100%. Heck, my best friend growing up, his dad was from Iraq, he had to sneak out of the country, he wasnt legally allowed to leave. His brother (my friends uncle) was shot in front of his brother for something like that (trying to leave, etc) I'm not sure. Obviously I dont know the full story, but theres no way you can say 100% is propaganda when there is unbiased proof of his wrongdoings. |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 11:43am
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I still don't favor death sentences. |
Posted By: Trogdor2
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 11:47am
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I don't like it, but it's not in my hands. I think he deserves to die, but it's not
my (or anyone elses) right to kill him. ------------- Something unknown is doing we don't know what. That is what our knowledge amounts to. - Sir Arthur Eddington |
Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 12:24pm
I'm just curious, but what do you think should be done in this situation? ------------- <Removed sig for violation of Clause 4 of the New Sig Rules> 
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Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 12:41pm
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It's just a way to get him out of the way and done with, it wont solve much but at least no one will ever have to worry about him again. ------------- 
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Posted By: barn_user
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 12:59pm
Agreed. |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 1:11pm
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My personal objections to the death penalty have always been because of the justice system- not the punishment itself. In this instance we can all feel 100% utterly certain that Saddam is in fact guilty of his crimes- that being certain, I've got no problem with him being put to death. High profile war criminals are really one of the few instances these days in which I CAN trust judicial process when it hands down a death sentence... It'll be quick and easy, really. A short sharp drop, the neck breaks, and no more Saddam. As much as I distrust the vast majority of information coming out of Iraq from ANY source, I've got no moral issue with executing Saddam. He made his own bed, now he has to lie in it. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 2:16pm
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Can I propose that this isn't really a "death penalty" at all? Not in a justice system kind of way, anyway. This is really a post-revolution/invasion dispose-of-the-old-leaders kind of thing. Saddam is a POW more than anything else, despite the screwball "trials" they come up with. His trial wouldn't pass muster under most legal systems - and you will recall that a big problem was to figure out what legal system to try him under. And, of course, one of Saddam's defenses has a lot of legal merit: He "is" Iraq, and it is therefore impossible for him to commit a crime under Iraqi law. This principle has loads of precedent, and is deeply embedded in legal systems around the world, including the US. Bush used a version of this to point out that it is impossible for the President to violate document secrecy rules. Virtually every military action constitutes "murder" under civilian laws, yet is perfectly legal, because government action is generally exempt from civilian law. Saddam has a very good point, which is (part of) why a lot of legal experts are laughing at the kangaroo court they put together for him. Saddam's crime is really just being Saddam, and comparing this to regular murderers, legally speaking, is wrong, IMO. |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 2:32pm
Good point. I'd still rather see him rot in cell though.... ------------- |
Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 5:46pm
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 5:50pm
It's all pretty pointless, IMO. The world isn't going to be any better with Saddam dead. Life isn't going to be any different for the Iraqi's or anyone else for that matter. Punishing violence with more violence doesn't solve problems, if anything it makes them worse. I wish more people could see that. I find it ironic at best that so many Christians in the U.S. are in favor of the death penalty when it clearly goes against the teachings of Christianity. I guess this is all another discussion for another time though. -------------  irc.esper.net #paintball |
Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 6:33pm
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it may have been mentioned on the news this morning but it was determined that it would done like that within 30 days at least a month ago, i remember hearing about it on the radio |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 6:54pm
He still had the legal right to an appeal. I believe that upon the verdict of the appeal, the thirty days start, assuming the appeal is lost (which it was). ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 8:13pm
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OH NOES, NOT UNCLE SADDAM!
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Posted By: Badsmitty
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 9:09pm
| That'll learn him for what he did on 9/11. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 9:24pm
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i know saddam was a very bad man but i am opposed to the death penalty
Like i believe some people should be executed but as with Brihard i have problems with the legal side of it. Because who has the right to decide if a man should live or die? nobody does... no matter what there would be bias. like if we were to put down strict rules on certain conditions where the death penalty is imposed, There would be a separate trial once the person is convicted where it is decided exactly what crimes were done and how many times.... maybe a point system would be used where if someone has a certain amount of points they are executed. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 9:28pm
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Wow, "like" is as annoying in text as it is in speech....
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Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 10:56pm
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Whats worse, Rest of your life in prison, or, killed in 30 days?
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Posted By: Rock Slide
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 11:35pm
So... Who has him in their death pool?  ------------- I bring annihilation and cheap red wine! |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 11:39pm
Apparently no, its set in stone. Other things dont matter, he'd going to hang. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 12:12am
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is it public hanging? ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 12:42am
No Choop, he did in fact appeal his conviction, and the appeal was refused, hence the new article about his impending execution. The initial conviction was not set in stone in any legal sense- though we all knew the outcome. Now, you're correct in that this was his LAST (And I believe only) appeal. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Wubadoo
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 12:53am
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i don't feel we should hang him, rather gather up all of the people that he ever harmed or the remaining family members of the people he killed and let them do one thing to him that is non lethal, after that we put what is left of him in front of a firing range and let the vets of both persian gulf conflicts the job ------------- Wubadoo |
Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 9:24am
Like I said a few posts ago, it's not going to solve anything it's just a way to get him out of the picture and done with so no one will have to worry about him. -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 11:35am
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I really don't think it's a good thing from a stability standpoint. No one over there is fighting to put him back in power, he's been out of the picture since we invaded, Saddam isn't the cause of the instability of Iraq at the moment, if he were to sit in a prison cell and rot, Soviet-style, it would be better. All that the court system over there is doing is making him a potential martyr which the insurgency can then use to their own benefit. They'll say that it was an unjust trial, influenced or completely orchestrated by western powers, and thus corrupt in the eyes of Muslims in other countries or who have sympathetic feelings for the insurgency. You don't see anyone except the hard-line Baath party supporters marching around with his picture, even then, there are far more burning pictures of him whenever some news is leaked from the courts. All this will give the extremists is another martyr to march behind, another "great warrior in the name of Islam" who fought the corrupt, great Satan that is America. His hanging will merely be another rallying point for extremists in the region.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, I think Iran will look favorably on the new Iraqi government for doing this thing alone. Kuwait will also be more apt to lend assistance to a re-born Iraq when the butcher of Baghdad is cold and in the ground. Syria will continue to let insurgents into their country to take refuge, and will probably step up their presence once this happens. I can foresee Jordan and Egypt also issuing statements condemning the act though they won't lend any more support than moral support. It's a tricky situation, and I really do feel that Saddam spending the rest of his days lying on a cold concrete cell floor with nothing but bread, water, and lice for sustenance and company would be the more stable way to handle the situation. Nobody is coming for him, nobody wants him in power anymore. He's out of the way and the opposition have found new leaders to stand behind. Saddam is worth more alive than dead. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 6:49pm
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UPDATE* http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16384738/ - Saddam will hang by Sunday, no exceptions. Talk about speeding it up a bit. ------------- 
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 8:36pm
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I herd on the news he wanted to be killed via firing range. Im still supraised its a hanging... ------------- 
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Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 9:27pm
just a lil bit -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 9:54pm
They won't honor that request, death by firing squad is seen as a more honorable way to die in many people's eyes, it is, after all, the usual method to deal with capital punishment in the military. Death by hanging by the neck is something that happens to common criminals, not your average dictator. The last major hangings to take place in world history were of those condemned to death at the Nuremburg trials. They too were given the method used for the murderers they were. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 10:00pm
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His death may cause a little bit of an uprising but i dont think it will be bad, of corse you never know. -------------
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 11:27am
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Off him before new years, eh? Makes sense I suppose. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 1:50pm
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Looks like this Saturday may be the day.. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061229/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061229/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq ------------- Imagine there’s a picture of your favourite thing here. |
Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 4:26pm
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 5:17pm
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 5:36pm
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kinda off topic, but we hada debate last week on should we keep the death penalty, and i said yes. one of the arguments, i kid you not, the other kid said "the death penalty is inhumane-its better for them to rot in a prison cell". lol this just reminded me of that lol. but i just heard on the news hes being hanged tonight, which is early morning iraq time. -------------
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Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 5:47pm
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Yahoo says possibly within hours -------------
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Posted By: skh711
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 5:48pm
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http://news.yahoo.com/fc/World/Saddam_Hussein - http://news.yahoo.com/fc/World/Saddam_Hussein ------------- Setup: Tippmann 98 Custom E-bolt 14" All-American Barrel 12v Revvy Double Trigger 68/3000 Pure Energy tank |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 5:48pm
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6AM Iraqi Time. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 9:38pm
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in about 15 min say good bye to ol saddam -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 9:58pm
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2 minutes, let's see if it happens. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:02pm
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el arabia reports he's left US custody and is on his way to the gallows ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:06pm
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any sec now.. -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:09pm
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6:08AM Baghdad time, unconfirmed by El Arabia, Sky News, and MSNBC
Scratch that, El Arabia says it's confirmed ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:11pm
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Break out the little American flags! -------------
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:13pm
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klined.
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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:14pm
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R.I.P.
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Posted By: rancidpnk13
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:15pm
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Well, now he's dead, let's see what happens tomorrow... ------------- 
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Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:15pm
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:20pm
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Wonder how long it takes for vids to appear on the internets.
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Posted By: G.A.-PNTBALLER
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:22pm
| Hopefully soon! |
Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:33pm
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:33pm
| Links to show he is dead? |
Posted By: Savage93fvss
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:35pm
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If somebody gets a link, PM it to me
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:37pm
Probably won't happen. My guess is that you'll see a series of still photographs as televising the event would violated international law (geneva convention) My guess is that there were no video cameras allowed. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:38pm
| Actually they said it is being recorded on video and parts of it will be broadcasted to show everyone that it has indeed been caried out. |
Posted By: G.A.-PNTBALLER
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:39pm
| yeah you're probably right. i doubt that we will ever know for sure. |
Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:40pm
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:43pm
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PM for me the video link.
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Posted By: Savage93fvss
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:44pm
| Shens on cedric. |
Posted By: goodsmitty
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:46pm
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NEWS FLASH: Baghdad, AP: Minutes after former Iraqi leader and tyrant Saddam Hussein died on the gallows, American soldiers were pelted with flower petals by thankful liberatees. Shiites and Sunnies throw down weapons, dance in the streets. "The war is over! Alluah Akbar!" ------------- "Reading this thread, I'm sad to say that the only difference between the average American and the average Taliban is economic status." -Zesty |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:47pm
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If they show up anywhere, they'll probably show pictures
http://english.aljazeera.net - here first ____________FIXED!___________________ ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:48pm
| Link no worky |
Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:48pm
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Democracy just kicked in!
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:54pm
Lawl indeed. -------------
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:56pm
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http://saddamhussien.justgotowned.com/ - http://saddamhussien.justgotowned.com/ ^^video footage lolz^^ -------------
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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:59pm
Saddam getting captured is the last picture on there LOL. -------------
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 11:15pm
| So now that he is dead, what do they do with the remains? Leave it there and let what ever animals out there to eat it? |
Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 11:18pm
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 11:41pm
thats funny, i didnt even watch the vid before i posted. -------------
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 11:56pm
I don't think that was a anti-death penalty statement, and more of a "Ok now what the hell," statement. -------------
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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 30 December 2006 at 12:00am
Regardless, I realize people are making a big deal about this, but I swear some people would make a bigger deal about a celeb being killed than Sadaam acting like he didn't affect thousands of families. Sidenote- Tae, how close is your college to Pensacola? ------------- |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 30 December 2006 at 12:05am
Well, what is killing him going to do? Like I said...'What now?' I am far from Pensacola. -------------
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Posted By: GThomas
Date Posted: 30 December 2006 at 12:15am
| Now we hope that the Bush administration finally listens to the Generals and advisors, and that they come up with a decent plan for reconstruction and defeating the insurgency. Lets hope they do it soon too. |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 30 December 2006 at 1:25am
They're gonna bury him according to Islamic Law. Where is supposed to be up to his family. ------------- |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 30 December 2006 at 1:45am
Family wants him buried in Yemen, and when the insurgancy violence stops and Iraq settles they want the body moved back to Iraq to be buried. -------------
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Posted By: Badsmitty
Date Posted: 30 December 2006 at 3:39am
| That's what you get for 9/11 Saddam! |
Posted By: FROG MAN
Date Posted: 30 December 2006 at 3:52am
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HAHAHA, GO US, You went in and got those weapons of mass destruction ------------- <1 meg sig = bad> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 December 2006 at 6:00am
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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 30 December 2006 at 6:04am
| I hope the backlash against our troops isnt as bad as I expect it to be. |