J&J ceramic or lapco bigshot?
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Topic: J&J ceramic or lapco bigshot?
Posted By: nathanours
Subject: J&J ceramic or lapco bigshot?
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 1:26pm
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i am trying to decide which of these two barrels to buy and i was wondering what every one thought i was also wondering if i should get a 12' or 14' barrel thanks for feedback oh and i have a tippman 98c if that makes ne difference |
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 1:54pm
| i would go with the J&J. The size of the 12 or 14' doesn't matter. They will give you about the same accuracy. It just coes down to how long do you like your gun or what position you play. I like my Ion being small so I got a 12' pipe kit. |
Posted By: barn_user
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 2:16pm
| Please use the search option. This had been discussed numerous times and you will find all the information you need. |
Posted By: DeadAim349
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 11:39am
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lapco bigshot ftw
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98custom pro Lapco Bigshot 14" E-trigger GTA double trigger Regulator Low pressure kit VL revolution tripod 48ci |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 12:24pm
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I wouldn't want a 12' or a 14' barrel.
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 2:47pm
Aw, why not!? Reach out and touch someone!  ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: Trogdor2
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 4:52pm
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Here's the story...
They're both nice, but I think the Lapco is better. From experience, I think it shoots straighter and is more accurate than the J&J. Also, I just think it looks nicer. Now, for the 12" or 14"... I'd say go 12" because the extra 2" of the 14" could get in the way at some point. You're getting the same functionality, so why not make it smaller/lighter? ------------- Something unknown is doing we don't know what. That is what our knowledge amounts to. - Sir Arthur Eddington |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 5:12pm
| id say lapco, it wont let you down. |
Posted By: estcstpnt
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 7:05pm
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Lapco 12". The Lapco is more accurate but the J&J is quieter,and lighter. ------------- Thinking about it... |
Posted By: nathanours
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 12:44am
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does quietness really matter? i am not going to try to snipe ne way u guys know more about it |
Posted By: stick_boy_2002
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 3:46pm
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the forum has pretty differing opinions when it comes to this subject. if you can try out both and buy the one you like better ------------- 
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 4:25pm
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I have both. I believe the Lapco is slightly more accurate (even in the shorter lengths-mine is 8 inches) but the J&J is quieter. The J&J shoots through breaks much better than the Lapco.
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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 5:02pm
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I love my 14" JJ. It shoots multiple types of paint without problems, cleans itself, and is rather quiet. It is also able to accept teh Apex tip for added distance should you want it. ------------- Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good. |
Posted By: Rock Slide
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 7:53pm
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Wanna shoot through a break? Use some Rain-X in the barrel. Follow the directions like you'd do the windshield of a car (two coats and buff). The Rain-X will fill in all those very fine machine marks and it will be glass smooth. Accuracy improves and paint won't stick if you get a break. Three or 4 shots and you're good to go again. ------------- I bring annihilation and cheap red wine! |
Posted By: chaloopy
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 8:13pm
you forgot to mention the fact that the j&j can shoot through broken paint in the barrel, while the big shot needes to be cleaned ------------- Tippmann 98 Custom Pro Polished Internals J & J 12" Ceramic Double Trigger Digial woodland camo reciever Empire Reloader B |
estcstpnt wrote:Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 9:33pm
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Neither.... Super Chromium all the way. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:01pm
This works amazingly well. I can't believe I had forgotton about this trick. I must be getting senile. -------------
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Posted By: Rock Slide
Date Posted: 30 December 2006 at 4:45pm
When you don't move fast, you use any and all advantages...  ------------- I bring annihilation and cheap red wine! |
Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 30 December 2006 at 4:55pm
He speaks the trufe. Pro's use the rain-X trick in there barrels. ------------- [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/anthonymartinez/402cdjo-1.gif"> |
Posted By: nathanours
Date Posted: 30 December 2006 at 9:11pm
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ok, thanks and now i was wondering which can take more kinds of paint? i know the JJ is self cleaning, but which can i mostlikely use cheap paint in and get away without many problems? |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 1:41pm
Trust me, I know all about that. With a knee and two back surgeries behind me I don't move fast at all. On the rare occassions when I do (at the field) theres all kinds of comments along the lines of "OMG, I think I saw Mac running!", "Get a stretcher!" and "Do you need oxygen?" -------------
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Posted By: NC sect.8
Date Posted: 06 January 2007 at 1:41pm
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I've never had any trouble from my Lapco. Then again I have never tried the J&J either. I am running an 8" and can reach out as good as guys with 12" barrels. ------------- A-5 Lapco Bigshot w/can APP remote Rufus Dawg Bolt E-Trigger Vortex Polished Guts |
Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 06 January 2007 at 5:29pm
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I say J & J all the way!! Anyway, I love my 12" J&J -- Self cleaning too! |
Posted By: nathanours
Date Posted: 07 January 2007 at 1:51pm
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thx guys i got the J&J just cause it was 36 bucks and the lapco was 50 at my local store i also got the 12 in i could not believe the accuracy difference it made either it is so much better and i have shot over 2k balls with it and none have broken yet so i havent tested the self cleaning thing ------------- 
sorry if this offends any one but it is funny Tippman 98c w/ J&J ceramic barrel polished internals expansion chamber |
Posted By: WhtcaNbrOwnDo4U
Date Posted: 18 January 2007 at 6:23pm
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I think I will also get the J&J ------------- 
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 18 January 2007 at 7:20pm
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Alright, you already made your decision, but since this seems to be a common question, I'll weigh in for people still considering. I own both in 14" and am able to do a head-to-head comparison. The Bigshot is less paint-picky and overall more accurate. The JnJ seems to shoot through breaks a tad better, but the extra porting seems to collect paint in such a way that it seems to negate this. The JnJ is more quiet, but personally I think this is the least useful selling point of any barrel. Despite the supposedly superior coating of the JnJ is seems less smoothly polished than my LAPCO which is like a mirror. For the extra $10-$15, go with the LAPCO. LAPCO one peice barrels(autospirit, microshot) are IMO the best one-peice barrels out there. I have yet to try the rain-x trick since if I screw it up, I have no clue how to get rid of the stuff and wouldn't want to apply it unevenly and wreck my accuracy, but it seems like it'd be great if you don't bork the job. If anybody purchases a new barrel and thinks the accuract is lacking, wash it with hot soapy water, rinse well,(a trip through the dishwasher works) then swab with rubbing alcohol, let it dry, then dry swab it. This will remove any oil it was packed with and may be left after a few games. Accuracy will be restored and stellar. |
Posted By: nathanours
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 9:02pm
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is there a chance rain x could mess up the barrel? -------------
sorry if this offends any one but it is funny Tippman 98c w/ J&J ceramic barrel polished internals expansion chamber |
Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 3:00pm
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they're both good. j&j is quieter, bigshot is every so slightly more accurate. you probably won't be able to tell teh difference.
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