What’s our future?
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Topic: What’s our future?
Posted By: DeTrevni
Subject: What’s our future?
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 10:02pm
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After watching that Hubble YTMD, me and Dad got to talking about other life and then our own. Anyone care to predict the future of the human race? Are we gonna off ourselves fairly soon? In the distant future? Are we gonna cultivate another planet/moon? Are we actually gonna find a way to survive and live here for ages to come? Are we gonna get wiped out naturally, like the dinos? What do you think? I kinda think we're gonna some how manage to off ourselves... ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 10:05pm
Nuclear war  ------------- 
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 10:07pm
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Plastics.
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 10:08pm
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Mars is inhabitable. As long as the human race can hold out here for 100 years or so, the colonies should be in pretty good swing by then. And within the next 200 or so years, there's hope that oxygen pumps will be able to establish an atmosphere on Mars. That, occcampanied by work on the ice cap could have Mars flourishing in(in the grand scheme of things) no time at all.
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Posted By: STOcocker
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 10:10pm
| Just like Futurama. |
Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 10:11pm
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STOcocker wrote:Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 10:15pm
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Colonization is a must, with the world's population growing at the rate it
is (even with population controls in place in countries like china) we will be out of arable land in the not too distant future. Arable land is the biggest necessity when it comes to sustaining life in densely populated areas. The continued migration of the gobi and sahara deserts greatly reduces the ammount of land available for cultivation in the adjacent areas and the rising sea levels combined with the continued loss of inland water sources (check out the caspian and aral seas) are causing loss of costal living areas and causing a "dust-bowl" effect in the areas of central and west Asia. Colonization and terraforming of other worlds will be the only way that the human race will be able to survive the next 1,000 years. Great advances must also be made in either cryogenic hibernation or near- light-speed travel. If FTL or singluarity drives can be made a reality, then there is no end to the advances and domain of the human race. A good book to read that brings up some interesting questions about space travel and colonization is Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card. I suggest reading the whole series as it deals with meeting other intelligent life-forms, how to handle colonization, and communications between colonies across the void of space. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 10:19pm
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 10:19pm
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Enders Game is awesome. Anyway, I think history will just continue as normal on earth... ------------- 
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Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 10:20pm
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Posted By: a5Tpp789
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 10:36pm
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terminators or matrix -------------  if you put 500 dollars into an A5 it is still an A5
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Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 10:37pm
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Sooner or later a moving black hole will be very close by, and the sea level will rise, and the few people on the higher ground will witness severe climate changes, from either super hot, or super cold, based on the way the earth was moved from the black hole, and eventually earth as we know it will be crushed into nothing, along with the Sun, Mars, ect. Or, There will be a worldwide pandemic, in which everyone will be effected, and billions will die. Or, We will accidently think that Russia sent nukes at us (even though they didn't), so we will retalliate and fire nukes at them, but Russia will be like lolz stop it and fire nukes at us, and everyone will die, and it would be WWIII, except that there will be severe climate changes, resulting in higher water levels, and a huge change in where people live. Or, Aliens will be like I want this planet and then we will all be blasted away to make room for them. Or, Enos Shenk will take over the world, and eventually people will try to overthrow him. In the end, Enos Shenk will develop a new weapon that will destroy everyone but him and a few people that he chooses, and eventually, there will be no more food except twinkies that survived the nuclear winter, so Enos Shenk, being the greedy person he is, will try to take the stash, and the few other people will repopulate to outnumber him, and eventually destroy Shenk. What will happen then? There will be only 100 people left, but the same gene pool over and over will eventually lead to retarded babies, so no one will know what to do or say, so the world will eventually end when people cannot function at all because their genes are too bad and copied over and over and over and over. ------------- [IMG]http://i27.tinypic.com/1538fbc.jpg"> Squeeze Box ☣ |
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 10:55pm
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My guess is the human race will cease to exist within a few million years. Our sun will, by that time, have converted most of its hydrogen to helium and will be come a red giant, which would most likely envelop earth or come close enough to make living here impossible. Mars would also likely be too close to survive on. Although astronomers estimate there are a handful of other planets out there capable of sustaining us, we would have no way of reaching them (unless the theory of relativity is proven wrong). Of course there is always the chance mankind as a whole would take to space and move around the universe searching for a hospitable planet. By then, however, the planets would most likely be so far apart that such a journey would become completely impossible and mankind would have to sustain themselves entirely in space. Then you have to consider how much longer would the universe be alive? The stars would burn out sooner or later and mankind would have no chance whatsoever. Then there is always the theory that the combined gravity of the universe will eventually overcome the speed of the stars moving apart and we will return to pre-big bang. Thats all long term however. In the short term, I believe we will have no choice but to move out to Mars. Once Global Warming peaks on Earth we will collapse into an ice age and stand much less of a chance of surviving. I could easily see us moving from planet to planet, something like a sumer home. Unless of course Mars's warming cycle is identical to Earth's in which case we're hosed. I don't think overcrowding or war will wipe out mankind. History shows us that these factors never destroyed man. I also doubt our future will be a bright and rosy utopia, another thing we are shown by history. My guess would be ice age, global warming or something else out of our control. ------------- Real Men play Tuba [IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg"> PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf! http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1 |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 10:58pm
| God has a plan for us all. |
Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 11:12pm
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After the great war of 2073, Canada will be the only survivor.
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Posted By: Rock Slide
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 11:25pm
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The problem is that natural selection has been changed. Its non-existent. The gene pool needs some chlorine... Beware of stupid people in large groups. ------------- I bring annihilation and cheap red wine! |
Posted By: Squishey
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 11:26pm
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i think we are going to all kill ourselves sooner then we might think if everyone keeps going on like this, between threats of nuclear bombs, and global warming which is more present now then it has ever been. things need to change soon and fast, our parents ruined the world(baby boomers) and now its up to us to fix it(us young folk)
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 12:02am
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I will become ruler of Dubai. That's all that really matters.
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 12:03am
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Dune.
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 12:10am
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Great book/movies. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 11:08am
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 11:26am
| Yeah, but those are the same foolish scientists that think the Earth is hundreds of millions of years old. |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 11:40am
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There's gonna be a pretty rough go of it in the next 100 years- the world population is within decades of going hypermalthusian and expanding beyond all reasonable bounds. Conditions will get progressively worse until we hit a breaking point, at which point wars will be fought over some of the remaining resources. We'll emerge from that battered and with worldwide infrastructure knocked back twenty years or so, but hopefully the wiser for it. The big variable is going to be the number, population, and dispersal of human colonies off planet. Mars is the obvious choice, as are several of the moons of Jupiter and Saturn, but I expect we'll find ways to inhabit almost any place once we can actually get to them. The critical question is, can the colonies become self sustainable in time to survive the big worldwide crisis when it comes? What will be the state of materials and propulsion science by that point? What degree of space flight will survive whatever wars may occur over resources? If we can hold off until the point where the terraforming of Mars is in full swing, we're OK. If not, it may be another hundred years or so before the next crisis, but God knows what that will entail. Space is, however, our future. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 11:59am
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There's a word we don't see every day... Not sure I agree with your conclusions, though. Most of the population expansion is among the powerless, whereas the 'haves' have good population control and maintain discipline. Call me cynical, but I figure that instead of 3-4 billion people competing for 10% of the world's resources (or whatever we are at now), we will move to 5-6-7-8 billion competing for those same 10%, whereas the 1-2 billion of 'haves' will continue to enjoy their 90% of the resources in comfort. Massive oversimplification and entirely theoretical, of course, but I don't see a major structural change unless the societal levees break - and if 3-4 billion can't break the levees, I don't see why 8 billion could. |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 12:06pm
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 12:10pm
| <insert Mel Gibson anti-semitism joke> |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 12:32pm
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I dunno, Clark... I'm not sure western society can hold back the human tide for much longer, given the ineptitude of our governments in controlling international borders. Look at the immigration problems in the southern U.S., or Europe. Immigrant populations are no longer assimilating in many places- I think that within 20 years many rich western areas will be fracturing along ethnic lines as a result of relatively recently arrived populations of foreigners, and as that happens the governments will have less and less ability to curtail the problem. BTW Clark, I know you're a fairly voracious reader- next time you're at a book store, pick up red Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson. It's the first in a trilogy about the colonization of Mars, and then later of the solar system, all the while keeping track of the population crisis and wars on Earth. The trilogy spans a couple hundred years, and has a lot of awesome characters... ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 12:41pm
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Hopefully we won't have to find out.
That sounds very familiar. I'll look into that. Thanks. |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 12:43pm
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The sequels are Green Mars and Blue Mars. Terraforming figures largely into the story, hence the title.
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Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 12:45pm
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Water will play a massive role, we (Canada) can kiss ours goodbye. ------------- Imagine there’s a picture of your favourite thing here. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 1:08pm
Those are the same arguments that were made back in the late 18 and early 1900's. While some pockets of the population did continue to stick to their heritage and were not as effectively assimilated (I.E. Little Italy and Chinatown) into the "American" culture, the vast majority of immigrants became ordinary adjusted citizens. All it takes is two generations for most ties to the "homeland" or family culture to be broken or supplemented with the standard "American" values. If you look at the sons and daughters (who were born in the US) of the Latin immigrants who came here 20 years ago, they use English as their first language and often don't speak fluent Spanish. For example, I had a server who was born in Peru and barely speaks Spanish even though it was spoken in her home frequently. I seriously doubt we will see a fractioning of our nation along race lines as most immigrants who come here only wish to work to make their money and get ahead in life. They aren't trying to take it from the US like an invading army with weapons and violence. The tide of humanity that you should address as a real threat to the "Haves" of the world are the militant fanatics who will try to take what the western powers have by force. Thank God for the fact that Africa is so divided right now. There are more than enough people there who would willingly go to war with Europe in the same manner that the Germanic tribes did at the fall of Rome. Everyone is so busy trying to peg the US as the modern Rome that they fail to see that the whole of the Western civilized world constitutes the "New Rome". ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 1:18pm
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I'm not convinced that humanity deserves to survive.
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 4:05pm
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Alot of people keep bringing up Nuclear war... It's not going to be the countries with the biggest armies that survive if things do come to a major world war(even though I think that is unlikely). The countries who will ultimately be alive at the end of such an armageddon will be those that are located in "valleys"(on a global scale) and protected by mountains. That, and taking the option of throwing down their nukes before all hell breaks loose are two of the only valid ways I could see a nation surviving the fallout and nuclear winter that would follow. Of course, weather patterns would also play a part. Ideally, you would live somewhere like Switzerland, and have a lowpressure system hovering over you when the poopy hits the fan. All in all though, this rests on the assumption that such a massive nuclear strike wouldn't throw Earth itself off of it's axis/orbital path by even the slightest amount. The planet already rides such a fine line, that such a shift in either direction would cause momentous planetary changes. I still rest by the fact though, that we are already sufficiently prepared to start sending the building blocks and teraforming tools needed to make mars the next step in human life as a whole. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: the_blade
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 6:20pm
wasnt the sun quoted at 10 billion years of a life expectancy? and it only 5 billion years old. ------------- 95 base neon 3.0 cai, knifedged crankshaft 60 mill throttle body,14 crane cam crane springs/retainers eagle rods port matched/ polished intake p&p head shaved .015 phantom grip diff dohc exuast |
Posted By: DarkSideEchoes
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 6:37pm
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It's funny how you started thinking about this after you saw that. I saw this YTMND a couple of weeks ago and experienced manic daydreaming about the universe. I calculated how many galaxies tehre are in the universe and everything. It just blows your mind. ------------- 
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Posted By: benttwig33
Date Posted: 30 December 2006 at 10:00pm
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i cant beleive nopbody posted "the end of ze world" video yet...... ------------- Sig is WAY too big. |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 5:39am
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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 9:10am
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Eventualy, I shall turn off all female sexuality by my mer presence on the earth. This will lead to a slow death of humanity due to lack of reproduction drive.
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Posted By: hwayhzrd
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 9:15am
Actually, I lean more towards Blade Runner as our future. Or Maybe even The Road Warrior. Humanity is it's own worst enemy. Always has been, always will be. ------------- If I flee, kill me If I die, avenge me |
Posted By: DsXz
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 10:57am
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Demolition man before stalone was frozen :P ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 1:20pm
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Machines are taking over.
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Posted By: hwayhzrd
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 3:01pm
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Like in the Terminator?
A very distinct possibility, IMHO ... Even now we are building technology we only have tenuous control over. ------------- If I flee, kill me If I die, avenge me |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 3:14pm
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Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 6:25pm
I was under the impression we only had a few million till red giant and then the last several billion would be us as a white dwarf, although I may have just mixed up the million and billion :) Furthering my belief we wont be wiped out by ourselves is this prediction by the world bank for 2030. http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=293276&area=/insight/insight__international/ - Link Coincidentally the history channel just had a special on natural phenomena that is likely to wipe us out, such as the super volcano under Yellowstone which is overdue for eruption and asteroid hits. ------------- Real Men play Tuba [IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg"> PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf! http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1 |