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Forum Name: Which Gun is Best
Forum Description: Need Advice? Ask the pros.
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Topic: Dangit!
Posted By: DeTrevni
Subject: Dangit!
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 1:54am

I need a gun to get me into speedball. I've got my Raimaker, but that's more of a novelty honestly...

I've got a pump, a woodsball marker, and even some custom jobs, but no speedball. I've got a lot of choices now though, so I kinda want your opinions.

Basically, it's:
- Ion (I'd love one to screw around with)
- B2K/BKO/Promaster (Nice and such, but not too much in the realm of customizing, which I LOVE)
- Matrix/DM4 (decent price now, good deal of ups)
- E-'cocker (most ups/customization potential)

So far, I'm leaning towards the e-'cocker. Any thoughts?



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Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"




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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 3:26am
me personally... I'd go with none of those.  Me personally.... go with the proto matrix Rail.

http://www.countysports.com/shop/product.php?productid=16334&cat=0&page=1 - PMR

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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 5:23am
Meh. If I was to spend $400, I'd get the Mini. I don't really wanna go over $300 though, excluding setup like air and hopper and junk.

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Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"



Posted By: FROG MAN
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 6:19am
I have allot of experience in speed ball and tourneys and basically, i would stay away from cocker's and icd, the best guns i have seen at ALL of the tourneys i have gone to (and through personal use) have always been Dye, Ego, Shockers, or Timmy's, theres a few more but that is basically the list i go through when looking for a new gun.

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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 9:39am
I would go with a Dye Matrix LCD or a DM4. Or, if you could find an AKA gun like a Viking or Excalibur, that would be pretty awesome.

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Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good.


Posted By: Simma Down!!
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 9:58am
Id just go with the ion. Tons of upgrades available for em. I havent been in the speedball scene for a while so im not up to date on all the new toys but out of what you have listed Ive shot them all and liked the ion the most. Smallest profile and a really tight fun gun.


Posted By: Connmann
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 12:20pm
Originally posted by Simma Down!! Simma Down!! wrote:

Id just go with the ion. Tons of upgrades available for em. I havent been in the speedball scene for a while so im not up to date on all the new toys but out of what you have listed Ive shot them all and liked the ion the most. Smallest profile and a really tight fun gun.



I guess another advantage is that you can buy ion replacement parts at lots of places and if you feel really confident in taking apart an ion (ask to take apart a friends ion first and get an idea on how they work) and then buy some expensive ups (lucky mac noid+board, bodykit if you feel like it, grips, new gripframe, regulator, bolt, etc) this way you can build an ion from the ground up like lots of cockers. the only reason why i reccomend this is because my friend put a hybrid trigger on his ion and now he says he voided the warranty from the distributor and the manufacturer. Not to mention it is cool when you can says its been custom built by a pro.


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table of what really makes your marker work
*Gnomes= autocockers
*Fairies= Angels
*Pixies= Timmys
*leprachauns= tippys
*goblins= spyders
*elves= mags    
*lawyers= smartparts
Ya I'm that smart


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 1:45pm

Okay, how's this: a LNIB pink Ion for $140. It's basically stock minus the pink...

Yeah, I know Smart Parts = , but the way I see it is this marker has already been purchased, so SP won't see an ounce of my $$$, and I still get a decent marker.



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Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"



Posted By: FROG MAN
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 2:56pm
SP is fine, dont let imature like "VIKING FOR EVA" fan boys bring you down

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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 3:03pm

No, I know it's a great gun, I've always liked SP guns for some reason, but I hate the company. They are money whores...

SOOOO if I buy used, SP doesn't see any of my money, I get a gun I like, and I can stick it to the MAN!



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Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"



Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 8:03pm
Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

No, I know it's a great gun, I've always liked SP guns for some reason, but I hate the company. They are money whores...


SOOOO if I buy used, SP doesn't see any of my money, I get a gun I like, and I can stick it to the MAN!



Really? You like bricks that much? You, my friend, should become a stone mason!

The experience and ease of care I've experienced with my 'new' Dye LCD makes me say, go used high-end. The ion was built to be a mid-level marker from start to finish, you can get better construction for the same money if you buy used and smart. BTW, I'm sending out those parts Tuesday for your cocker build.

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Posted By: >><<
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 9:46pm

E or X mag

that may be a little more your price range haha



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Posted By: ProBaller3000
Date Posted: 01 January 2007 at 12:39am
Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

me personally... I'd go with none of those.  Me personally.... go with the proto matrix Rail.

http://www.countysports.com/shop/product.php?productid=16334&cat=0&page=1 - PMR


i have to say i have 1 and i love it. there are only 2 ups to make it almost the same as a dm6. trigger, feedneck. it comes with semi, psp, mil. modes. adjustible bps up to 30. check out the review at pbreview.com and make an informed decision. the e cocker is good too


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My Setup
07 Proto Martrix Rail
NDZ Slick Trigger
Dye 2 Piece Ultra Light Barrel
NDZ ASA On/Off
NDZ Clamping FeedNeck
Virtue Board
Vlocity Jr. Hopper w/ chip
68/4500 Carbon Fiber Tank


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 01 January 2007 at 1:17am

Tallen, I think SP gave up on bricks 2 years ago! Heh...

Also, those old 'Trixes are pretty nice. I've always liked them. The build is getting depressing. All the people that have promised parts, you'd be the only one to deliver! It's a good thing you're a nice guy.

Also, I think I may just pour my cash into my 98 project for a while.



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Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"



Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 01 January 2007 at 9:25am
^If it's going to be freaking awesome, I say go for it. I'm still waiting on an update...

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Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good.


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 01 January 2007 at 3:41pm
I've reached a problem. There are some parts I need to get, and some more grinding/filing/cutting I need to do.

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Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"



Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 01 January 2007 at 3:48pm
The grinding/filing/cutting shouldnt be too difficult for you based on the work you've already shown us. Care to elaborate on the parts you need, or would that give away the <???>? It looks/sounds like a badass project and I think you should continue it rather than put it on the back burner.

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Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good.


Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 01 January 2007 at 8:05pm
I bought a used Ion very early this year.  After disassembling several times for cleaning, etc., I'm not that intimidated (no pun intended) anymore.  It is going to be my winter project now.  I'll up the internals as much as possible but keeping the exterior look as stock as possible.  Going for the 'Wolf-In-Sheep's-Clothing' look.  Heheheh...

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Posted By: Squishey
Date Posted: 04 January 2007 at 12:55am
Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

Meh. If I was to spend $400, I'd get the Mini. I don't really wanna go over $300 though, excluding setup like air and hopper and junk.

get an ion there fantastic guns


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Posted By: an94
Date Posted: 04 January 2007 at 8:27am
get on the nation, you can find a good upp'd ion for around 200-250

stormy--your avatar is sick dude!!


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1 paintball gun package=$150
1 case of paint=$50
air & entry fee=$15
lighting up newbies all day long= Priceless


Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 04 January 2007 at 9:29am

Whichever way you go, I would definitely recommend buying used.  The markdown on excellent speedball guns being sold buy agg guys after just a single season of use is remarkable.  Matrix, Angel, Timmy - whatever you want.  Why pay 300 for a new Ion when you can get a barely used Matrix for the same price?

Just make sure to buy safely.



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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 04 January 2007 at 11:29am


$187 Shipped DeTrevni, and with the Anderson board in it, it wails!!!!!

Best marker buy I've ever had.

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Posted By: prolite_killers
Date Posted: 08 January 2007 at 11:28pm
id get an ion fer sher

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tippmann pro-lite
adco scope
j&j 14" barrell
vl quantum


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 09 January 2007 at 12:40am
Hee. If all goes right, I won't have to worry about it after all!

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Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"



Posted By: AngelSlayer
Date Posted: 09 January 2007 at 1:16am
e-cocker, take it anywhere.....anyone can buy a 'trix or timmy, and there's nothing wrong with them, but with a cocker you can always go out to the rec field and no-one's gun will be just like yours if you do it yourself,

i just appreciate the sexy mechanical workings of the autococker

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Hey, Pate, it does feel good to be a gangster.


Posted By: AngelSlayer
Date Posted: 09 January 2007 at 1:17am
Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:



$187 Shipped DeTrevni, and with the Anderson board in it, it wails!!!!!

Best marker buy I've ever had.



where did you find that for $187, ebay, theres no way at a pevs shop

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Hey, Pate, it does feel good to be a gangster.


Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 09 January 2007 at 10:22am
ebay. It's just a pev's barrel cover. Pev's doesn't even carry anything for the LCD anymore.

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Posted By: hwayhzrd
Date Posted: 09 January 2007 at 4:51pm
Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

Meh. If I was to spend $400, I'd get the Mini. I don't
really wanna go over $300 though, excluding setup like air and hopper and
junk.

Get a used electro.
There are TONS to be had, and at great prices, from what I have seen.
PM me what exactly you want, and will keep an eye out for you.

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If I flee, kill me

If I die, avenge me




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