X7 Cyclone blender issue
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Topic: X7 Cyclone blender issue
Posted By: telder
Subject: X7 Cyclone blender issue
Date Posted: 07 January 2007 at 2:47am
| I have a Tippmann X7 that I bought when it first came out ...it's serial number is 160. I've taken it to several games now and the cyclone hopper chews paint up like a blender. I've tried 3 different kinds of paints and two different barrels as well as took the cyclone apart and made sure that the parts were working correctly. I still had the issue. I was out playing today and after a game, the ratchet broke! On a brand new gun! I replaced it and I still had the blender issue. Any thoughts or ideas on what I can check or do??? This is a brand new gun so it shouldn't be having these issues. |
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Posted By: Shadowminion
Date Posted: 07 January 2007 at 9:48am
 ------------- SL68-II , micro honed and polished .688" bore . Tuff Enuf . Widowmaker , under construction |
Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 07 January 2007 at 1:13pm
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Vortex Mod :) |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 07 January 2007 at 1:50pm
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Its probably broken/defective like shadowminion said, Customer Service! ------------- 
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Posted By: thuwindu
Date Posted: 08 January 2007 at 12:01pm
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yeah i'm having the same problem with my new X7 destroying balls. every other ball was just sheared in half. i tried 4 different types of balls. yes i know they are all from the same manufacturer, but if i gotta get a new distributor just for the X7 i'll stop carrying the X7's. the brands were all-star, premium, rampage and stinger. none of them would shoot more than once or twice without the next one chopping. this is even after barrel cleaning and changing. this was even tested at a rate of about 1 shot per second with no better success. it seems to do best with a 4 inch barrel and still shot straight. unfortunately it was like shooting mustard. i understand the temperature was around 50 degrees so im going to go with that being the problem cause i know the balls were fresh. i also turned down the velocity and tried different barrels. I didnt even take a back up gun cause i had such high hopes for the gun working and had to go home early.
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 08 January 2007 at 1:13pm
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is the marker actually chopping the rounds (is the paint all over the bolt and in the cyclone feed?) or are they breaking in the barrel? If they are chopping, then it is a timing issue with the cyclone feed and the bolt movement. Possibly a bad ratchet. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 08 January 2007 at 2:24pm
| There have been reports of early X-7s having a problem with the hammer not catching properly, resulting in multi-fire and chops. This can be fixed with replacement parts. As suggested, make sure that this is really a Cyclone problem, and not a breech chop issue. |
Posted By: telder
Date Posted: 08 January 2007 at 5:55pm
| It may very well be a breech chop issue but there seems to be more paint in the cyclone itself than the bolt/breech area. After shooting several shots it's like you are shooting goop out of the end of the gun. I think tha this should have been addressed in manufacturing before the marker was released and they should have someone address this here. |
Posted By: tecumseh
Date Posted: 08 January 2007 at 7:02pm
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new hopper?
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Posted By: telder
Date Posted: 08 January 2007 at 11:17pm
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Unfortunately a new hopper won't fix this. I sent this info to Tippmann support and got the following answer..
Doesn't sound like they know what's happening with their own marker. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 08 January 2007 at 11:40pm
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he typed in all caps? i'm calling schens on that post. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: TIPPY98ACT
Date Posted: 09 January 2007 at 1:45am
| Why would you buy any product that was just released? It is always going to have some issues that need to be worked out. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 09 January 2007 at 3:13pm
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straight from tippmann's tech support, try backing out the cyclone's center screw just a hair to free up the feeder a bit. There apparently is a feeling that it might be an issue of the cyclone feeder being secured too tightly (which may explain the stripping of the ratchet) That is the only suggestion they've got at the moment aside from sending it in. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Thompsonshooter
Date Posted: 09 January 2007 at 8:24pm
I have seen this happen with A-5s with too long of a screw. My serial number 4XX gun shoots just fine. ------------- 
Eric Engler President www.englerpaintballguns.com |
Posted By: telder
Date Posted: 10 January 2007 at 3:05am
| I already backed the screw out and it's definitely not the paddles being secured too well. I ordered the vortex mod kit for it so that the cyclone internals are better and I might go ahead and get a better power tube as well since I play quite a bit in cold weather, other then that the only thing I can think of is that there isn't enough air getting to the cyclone to cycle it fast enough or in time with the marker. |
Posted By: xOffMyMedsx
Date Posted: 24 January 2007 at 10:24pm
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I am having the same problem. Serial # 0000114 . It was around 45 degrees outside. I have shot Blaze, Chronic, Midnight and cheap rec paint. All the same. About 10 shots before it would chop. Most of the paint was in the cyclone itself. Took it back and the guy didn't want to exchange it for the last one on the wall. Called Tippmann and they wanted me to send it in. Got it for christmas and can't even use it. What a pitty. |
Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 26 January 2007 at 10:01pm
Did you try backing up the Cyclone Screw a bit? I have ran about 400 rds through mine and so far so good. Are you leaving any paint after the breaks ? Sorry to hear about your Gun woes man. Tippmann is very promptly on getting the guns back out in Time. ------------- 
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Posted By: Santry
Date Posted: 28 January 2007 at 10:40pm
| I seem to be having the same problem with my new a-5 ...Few rounds then splating paint out....Ended up greanading the paddle in the gear part underneath....Swapped it out for some new one thats kinda flexable and its still doin it...When I emptied the hopper out the hopper and were it meets the body were covered. I thought i was my flatline but i put stock barrel and a 14 in smart part on it and its still doing it..Talk about a pain in the ass in the middle of a game |
Posted By: Thompsonshooter
Date Posted: 29 January 2007 at 8:12am
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Hey guys look at the piston U-Cup O-ring. Look for tears and scratches.This may be the issue. -------------
Eric Engler President www.englerpaintballguns.com |
Posted By: Santry
Date Posted: 29 January 2007 at 5:23pm
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Do you think it could be the ball detent getting cold and hardening up? It was about 40 when I played and was having the problem. I was using good winter paint..I shot polar ice, ramp blizzard, and an evil winter blend..All having the same issue with my gun and my buddies brand new x7...I mean others were having break issues but nothing like the every 5-6th ball comming out as soup |
Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 29 January 2007 at 5:45pm
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I don't think its the ball detent, cause people have reported the balls
breaking mainly inside the hopper or at least getting some in the
hopper. I don't know where the detent is on the X7 but if it's
like the 98 or A5 the bolt pushes the ball past the ball detent. And even if it was the ball detent the paint splatter would be getting into the barrel not the cyclone right? (that's my thoughts anyway). |
Posted By: Santry
Date Posted: 30 January 2007 at 10:27am
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Yea your right there...Now has anyone put an x7 cyclone on an a5? I might try my buddys but i wana make sure it will bolt up first |
Posted By: Thompsonshooter
Date Posted: 30 January 2007 at 4:05pm
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they are the same. -------------
Eric Engler President www.englerpaintballguns.com |
Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 30 January 2007 at 4:13pm
Could you elaborate please? |
Posted By: God
Date Posted: 30 January 2007 at 7:16pm
| The cyclones on the A-5 are the same cyclones on the X-7. |
Posted By: TIPPY98ACT
Date Posted: 31 January 2007 at 1:24am
| God, I have read online, and in all the advertisements in every mag I see for the X7. That it has a new and faster cyclone feed system. What makes it faster or any better than the one on my A5? I would really like to know. Did Tippmann install some kind of (vortex) design of there own? I have seen the manual for the X7 and in my opinion, I have to say, when you look at the exploded view section, all I see is the A5 with a body kit. |
Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 31 January 2007 at 4:20pm
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"God" they aren't exactly the same. Maybe the base is the same
shape but the x7 cyclone has vents holes in it that act kind of like a
qev. There is also one other difference that Rambino mentioned (very small diff) but I can't remember ask him. But they are still different. |
Posted By: Thompsonshooter
Date Posted: 04 February 2007 at 7:20am
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I was referring to the bolt pattern not not operation.
Sorry for the confusion. I have had our custom modded cyclone up to 32BPS. But only the outer shell and paddles are really stock cyclone anymore.  -------------
Eric Engler President www.englerpaintballguns.com |
Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 04 February 2007 at 3:31pm
What did you do to it to get it going 32bps? Do you have a vid? |
Posted By: xOffMyMedsx
Date Posted: 06 February 2007 at 9:32pm
Yeah I did. Same problem. I bought some new winter paint that had a really thick shell and seem to shoot fine until it stop shooting. I had to send it back to tippmann. The cyclone system broke and wouldn't feed. Something to do with the advance system. I wrote what the gun was doing before and after so I hope I get it back and it works better. Only 22.00 bucks to ship so cant beat that. Thanx for the help guys and will keep you updated when I get it back. |
Posted By: johnsmith
Date Posted: 15 April 2007 at 12:59pm
ya i had the same problem with my x7. i thought that it was the spring was pushing the balls into the chamber too fast and breaking them, but it was actually was the rachet was broken. I took it in to get fixed, and they said the rachet was broken. I dont know what was broken with it, but i got a new vortex mod and now it workes perfectly.
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