I was told by someone here on the forum that a 98 ACT would be a tad bit slower than a regular 98 Custom.  (Don't include when the ACT it engages in "ACT" obviously). 

So... is this true? and why?

kickinwing2010 wrote: I don't see why it would because it's the same setup just with a little less metal and a spring setup.

no reason for a bump...  Theres no reason for it to go slower.

I hadn't gotten 1 post from someone that I would ever listen to. 

kickinwing2010 is a jerk who likes to insult me every chance he gets and he thinks he knows a lot about paintball too, so I just ignore him now because arguing with him is a waste of my time.

Anyway I said a tad bit slower.  Let's say I want to set a record for the fastest a Tippmann can go with a Cyclone and RT. Looking at the picture of the ACT hammer and rod.  The Rod is bent and has to hit the aluminum interior so the rod then goes down and actually ingages the hammer to have it move forward.  Therefore this is more than a little friction.

Plus the hammer is probably heavier than my titanium hammer therefore slower than my hammer in my regular 98 Custom.  Therefore slower.

Therefore slowing down a tad bit the gun.  I wanted to find out if I was right about this.  But it looks like no one has ever though about it this way before.

Is anyone going to let me know what they think, give me a little more proof why or why not this is right or wrong?!?

...

Anybody?  Hello?

and why would your r/t + cyclone combo be any better than anyone else?

DsXz wrote: and why would your r/t + cyclone combo be any better than anyone else?

^this isn't helping answer my question, but if you have to know:

1. My cyclone is on a 98 Custom and not on an A-5 and therefore my Cyclone will feed tad bit faster than a Cyclone on an A-5 because of blowback gas.  I learned this a while ago.

This info was taken from  http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=157098&KW=cyclone+feed+flaws&TPN= - this thread:

Mephistopheles wrote: On the A5, biggest "problem" is the air source. Unlike the 98Custom it is not from the CVX channel. Rather from blowback gas. A much more thinned out and weaker air source. That's why, on average, a 98 w/ Cyclone and RT can fire and feed faster than an equal setup A5. That's why I junked my A5 and went back to a 98Custom. Cyclone was better on the 98. Besides that, the Cyclone EP pretty much fixed the other kinks.

phil_stl wrote: ^is the above true? What is the CVX channel?  I thought both markers had the same type of valve system and powered the Cyclone from blowback gas.  That was supposed to be the reason that you hardly ever get chops.  (cause it only feeds after a shot = feeds from blowback gas).  Are you saying that the cyclone on the A-5 doesn't feed it from blowback gas? Please elaborate.  Thanks

an94 wrote: the gun is fired, blowback happens, cycling the bolt. at the same time that the gun is cycling, air is run from the small  chamber in the bolt to the ram that in turn turns the cyclone feed. the problem I think is the CF  should feed/start to push the ball in the gun, is at the moment the bolt is almost past the feed hole. & forget about air turning the cyclone. it should be linked straight to the bolt by a metal link. you would not have to ..um....time it. KISS= less things to go wrong. in the problem about Popcorning. I really havent looked into why some hoppers popcorn & some dont. so IDK about that one.   here is a pic of what Im talking about what could be done sorry so small. I couldnt get the link to copy & paste right. the red triangle is the new "ratchet". the gray rod thing is the link attached to the bolt. when the bolt moves back via blowback, the link will spin the cyclone.  the A5/X7 cyclone uses a spring to spin it. and thats after the air pushes the piston forward. thats alot of time for the bolt to start to moving forward. causing chopping in higher BPS

phil_stl wrote: Wow, I never knew this.  This is great info and can be used in those 98C vs. A5 debates, lol.

Well you look at some people on here that spend plenty of time building e-bolts and modding their Tippmann's. 

The fact is I'm on my way of accomplishing this but I'm don't expect to actually run the test and own everything mentioned until I'm done university and making money.  So maybe in 3 years.  But for now planning is something that can be done because working on my paintball stuff is something I enjoy like many.

But even better is having a goal at the end of it.  Setting an Internet record for the fastest Tippmann RT + Cyclone setup is to me like making the best all around Tippmann woods gun on the market and when you can help others because of your knowledge about putting the right parts toghether people appreciate it.  I come here and see people like Bruce A. Frank and Natural Newbie (on Model98.org) and they are just fountains of info and help tons of people. 

Some people have different hobbies, whether it's woodworking, playing squash, kayaking, playing rec sports or working on your paintball gun, teaching others about paintball upgrades etc.  Doing what you enjoy is the key thing in life.

Sorry I turned that into a speech.

K thanks,

It's kind of funny how no one really answered my question.  Although I kind of thought that it would make it a tad slower anyway.

The Cyclone can go faster than 23bps definetly.  It has hit 26 bps consistently with some setups that have QEV and Vortex (on an Egrip setting).  27 bps too but there was some chops.

He didn't even 1/8 hoses or the lightening rod.  I know I can get my setup shooting faster after I invest some time and care.