Suggestions?
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Topic: Suggestions?
Posted By: *Stealth*
Subject: Suggestions?
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 1:43pm
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Well, I am figuring out what I want to go to college for. I have decided instead of taking general courses I want to hit up the Colleges certification program for Automotives. I'm trying to decide if I want to do Automotive Body repair or, Automotive service and repair. Ideally I will be able to do both at the same time, but it's possible I wont be able to. Both certification programs are one year long. I'd probably continue the automotive service and repair program for another year, which would give me a masters certification, as well as an applied science degree. I do prefer auto body work over service and repair, though I do enjoy both. Any suggestions from you guys? Which do you think would offer a better career path? |
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Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 1:43pm
| College. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 1:44pm
| Why not photography? |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 1:44pm
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Open a speed shop. And specialize in high end European imports. Offer a discount to the first guy who brings an Enzo in. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 1:46pm
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....? Me persoanlly go into Service and Repair, a buddy of mine went to Wyotech, for Collision repair, and when he came out there were no jobs for him at all, where service and repair, you can get a job mostly anywhere.... ------------- 
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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 1:47pm
Because I prefer photography as a self thing, I can always do that as a side job. Plus I think Automotives are a safer career choice, as there is no shortage of work. Plus I love working with my hands, getting dirty... Creating stuff. Automotive certification is also directly useful to myself. |
choopie911 wrote:Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 1:52pm
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^hehe, yea... Also, if you "REALLY" want to get into collision repair, don't hesitate on getting some Training done in Insurance companies, I'm sure some insurance company will pick you up if you have a degree in both...
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 2:20pm
Porn? |
Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 2:21pm
Again, something I could do on the side. Dirty porn photographer mechanic. |
Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 2:27pm
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My father in law does autobody repair. He's been at it for a long time now. He likes the work, and there's certianly no shortage of it. The money is pretty good and his yard is just full of auto stuff for all kinds of cars. When we need spare parts, we go to him. He's always getting cheap cars, fixing them up, and driving them until something else catches his interest. Every now and again some guy comes by to buy his headlight pile, and he makes a good haul on that.
The key to the work is finding a good place to work that'll keep you up to date on tools and provide a good workspace. He's stuck where he's at, and is dealing with an out of touch boss who won't buy new tools and he's on concrete all day. I'd say the repair and maintainence would come in more handy on a personal basis, but the body work makes good money as well. I'd take the body work as a secondary if it were me. The world is swimming in mechanics, but it is lacking in good mechanics. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 2:36pm
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FTW!!1111!1 ------------- 
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 2:42pm
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I'd compare the benefits of both ends of things.
Body Repair: No shortage of work, ever Relatively easy to open your own shop No expensive diagnostic equipment needed Ability to do your own body repairs Most jobs are relatively small Service and Repair: No shortage of work, ever. Multiple career paths to choose from. Better chance of getting benefits and pension plan Ever-changing problems to solve You deal with almost everything other than body work Now the cons: Body Repair: Tough to get a starting job Relatively Low pay to start Most businesses are independent and don't have health care/benefits Some jobs take months to fix (near totaled vehicles, etc) Cost of parts when running your own business can severely curtail profit margins Haggling with Insurance companies over costs. Service and Repair Most profitable work comes from working for a large company so few opportunities to strike out on your own Day-to-Day work CAN be tedious (tires, belts, etc) Starting pay tends to be low limited growth in certain career paths Overhead for a private business is expensive. Now, if you get BOTH certifications, I think you'd be in the position to do some good stuff. You can never have too much education when it comes to certain fields. If you were to get both, you can easily go to work for an insurance company as an inspector, adjuster, etc. It would also give you more versatility in looking for a job out of college AND makes you more of an asset to anyone who hires you. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 2:47pm
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I know nothing at all about this, but it seems to me that if these are 1-year programs, getting both is almost a no-brainer, assuming funding isn't a problem. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 4:11pm
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Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. |
Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 5:08pm
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Don’t go for auto body. It will catch up to you in the long run, as in the dust and paint fumes and what not are bad and you will end up wearing a mask all the time, if you don’t you will have problems. But the problem with being a mechanic is that everything is so damn hard to work on now because cars are built to be easy to put together on the line and they are a pain in the ass to work on. For instance in my dad’s s-10 you have to loosen the motor mounts and jack up the engine or pull the steering column in order to change some of the spark plugs. There are pro's and con's for both. As for me I am going for diesel mechanics now and then in a few years I am planning on joining the military as a jet mechanic. When I get out of the military ill have plenty of experience and schooling to get a good job. ------------- 
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 5:47pm
Service and repair, take German, get hired by BMW and go to their school in Munich. Our mechanic did that then went out on his own into general european auto service. He's freaking loaded.
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Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 6:13pm
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Screw auto mechanics. Go into heavy duty mechanics. Excavators, backhoes, dump trucks, mining equipment, agricultural equipment, semi trucks yada yada yada. They are all more fun to work on. I am currently trying to get an apprenticeship at the local John Deere dealer that I did a work experience at. It was great. I would rather work on a big machine than work on cars and trucks. The pay is pretty good too. ------------- [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/anthonymartinez/402cdjo-1.gif"> |
Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 8:44pm
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Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 8:53pm
I WAS going to get into aircraft structures but I liked working on machines better. As much fun as it is to huff epoxy fumes, Id rather be smelling hydraulic oil and diesel fumes. ------------- [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/anthonymartinez/402cdjo-1.gif"> |
Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 9:03pm
I didn't think you could even do that (not like you but as in everyone) ------------- Tuesday starts the weekend... YAYAYA!!!! CHUFF CHUFF |
Posted By: Pate
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 9:06pm
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If
you do anything mechanical, go Diesel. Its a booming technology with a
shortage of workers. You will make crap being a mechanic at an autobody
or anywhere. Take a diesel course for your cert, there are LOADS of
jobs out there for that.
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Posted By: Savage93fvss
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 9:18pm
| Nasheville Auto Diesel College. That school is un-beatable. It's pricey but they will place you in a job garunteed. If new technology comes on the market you can come to the school for free and learn how to work on the new stuff. For as long as your alive and as many times as you want. Great school. Volvo heavy equipment has a plant down the road and says even they're not really highering they will employ a NADC graduate. You can take the 18 month diesel program, and add a 6 month auto body repair program and you'll be open to any job in the field. Starting out with grreaat pay. |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 10:27pm
You didn't even know one could do what? |
Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 10:41pm
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Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. |
Posted By: kickinwing2010
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 10:49pm
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Service and repair, I have a friend who was working as a detailer at a chevy dealer ship then he told them he wanted to become a mechanic and they offered him a full ride including tools as long as the agreed to work for them when he got out.
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 12:09am
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While I agree that it is probably a good safe career choice, I ask, do you really want to do something that means almost nothing at the end of your forty years? I mean, I know it'll be putting food on your table and raising your family, and helping people I guess, but do you really want to look back when you're 60 and say, "man, I sure did fix a lot of cars..." ....That's just me though... Also, I didn't mean this to be condescending to anyone at all, we need mechanics and they are very skilled at what they do, it just seems sort of meaningless at the end of it all... -------------  |
Posted By: kickinwing2010
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 12:14am
Well not only has he put food on his table but he has learned alot, perhaps how to rebuild a carborator (I know there not used much anymore) or the overall engine. Also like you stated before he has helped people with problems of which they wouldn't have been able to do them selves. -------------
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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 1:40am
Everything is meaningless in the end. |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 1:47am
After forty years I am going to be able to say, "Man, I sure did design a lot of roads..." A Lawyer might say "Man, I sure did get a lot of pedos off the hook..." A dentist might say "Man, I sure did clean a lot of teeth..." I think one of the only profession in which one would feel like they made an impact somewhere would be a doctor. Just out of curiosity, what are you planning on doing, .Ryan? |
Posted By: Simma Down!!
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 8:12am
With most companies going to "stock" companies it makes it very hard for a photographer to make a decent living. |
Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 8:24am
Any job looks boring to some people, its all about how much you like your job. I'm in the engineering department and yes you could say man I designed a lot of buildings but it is something that I love doing so to me it doesn't feel that way. I'm sure if you want to go into automotive repair you must love cars so just pick the area that will get you a job out of college, or which area will get you better pay. ------------- Tuesday starts the weekend... YAYAYA!!!! CHUFF CHUFF |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 12:08pm
Duh. I was proving a point to .Ryan. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 1:09pm
Do what? Major in graphic design or IT? Why not? I'm doing graphic design type stuff. I have second thoughts on occasion, but oh well, overall I'm happy with it. |
Posted By: FlimFlam
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 1:23pm
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That's a little elitest don't you think? I'd rather spend 40 years pushing a broom if that's what I loved than 40 years of "educating our children" and hating it... ------------- 
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 1:27pm
Pretty much. The trades are a vital part of society, and I'm glad it is. These are the people who keep the world running/ growing. If you're a doctor, who builds your building for your practice? People in the trades. I'd rather work with my hands my whole life, and look back on the things I learned, taught, did, fixed, helped with, etc than look back and go "gee, I sure did file alot of TPS reports" |
Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 1:30pm
It's not elitist per-say, or at least he doesn't seem to come across that way. It's more of a philosophical misconception. No matter what you do, it will all amount to nothing in the end. Everything you did in life, is over, and has accounted for nothing in the realm of death. Death makes no recognition of that child you taught, nor does it hold appreciation for that building you created, or the cars you fixed. |
Posted By: FlimFlam
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 2:02pm
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I realize there was a philosophical component to the question, but for most of us your job is not your identity. I could be a custodian of school but be a great father to my children, gives back to his community and have a greater, more positive impact on society than the doctor who works 80hrs a week, is a complete prick and never sees his kids...
True enough, but how is that relevant? The legacy you leave in this world is with the living not the dead, or death as you put it. You, as a mechanic, could impact someone's life as much as a doctor or a teacher or any of the "noble" careers defined by our friend .Ryan. Say a young single mother comes in with car problems. Single income, scraping by. Maybe you fix it for free, or at cost because the woman is in a bad way. Maybe she's on her way to a job interview. Better life for her, her kids. Maybe one of her kids grows up to be a doctor... etc. You impacted the lives of three people by doing something nice for someone, and *gasp* you're not in one of the "noble" professions. It's all about how you treat people and live your life, not what friggin' career you chose or what you do from 9-5. To label someone by the work they do IS elitest, IMHO.
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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 2:05pm
I know if you get a degree in Diesel mechanics and move to Wyoming or Colorado, you can make around 65-90K a year on an Oil Rig. -------------
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Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 5:56pm
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