good ups?
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Topic: good ups?
Posted By: nathanours
Subject: good ups?
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 7:56pm
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i was thinking a response trigger, i have heard they are good, but what do they actually do for u? or an expansion chamber what are the prices for these and which should i get first? i also play in cold weather if that makes a difference ------------- 
sorry if this offends any one but it is funny Tippman 98c w/ J&J ceramic barrel polished internals expansion chamber |
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 8:09pm
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A R/T allows you to fire faster by inducing trigger bounce, which causes a "full auto" effect. But if you are playing in a cold environment you will freeze your marker up. I would suggest getting a expansion chamber before even thinking about an R/T. The other thing about an R/T is that in order to use it properly you would have to get a faster hopper. ------------- 
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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 9:27pm
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I agree with Snake. Look into an expansion chamber first. They run $30-80 depending on what you get. DOP X-Core runs for $30 and is a very common expansion chamber. The palmer's Stabilizer runs for $80 and is a top of the line performer. The RT allows your gun to fire much faster while staying mech. It will cause your gun to freeze up if you dont have an expansion chamber. it also requires a faster hopper. Cyclones are available for $50 and are great hoppers for the RT. ------------- Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good. |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 10:05pm
Fixed. 
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Snake6 wrote:Posted By: nathanours
Date Posted: 24 January 2007 at 8:11pm
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k ihave heard that expansion chambers have different stages? what does this mean? also how much is it to have installed at a pb shop on average? -------------
sorry if this offends any one but it is funny Tippman 98c w/ J&J ceramic barrel polished internals expansion chamber |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 24 January 2007 at 8:26pm
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i forget what the stages mean not worth it to have it installed at a pbshop if you must pay. It is very easy to install yourself, mine at least installs anything you buy there for free but I enjoy doing it myself ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: nathanours
Date Posted: 24 January 2007 at 8:48pm
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ya welli have never taken apart my gun it is a 98c and i am worried that if i take it apart it will never get back together -------------
sorry if this offends any one but it is funny Tippman 98c w/ J&J ceramic barrel polished internals expansion chamber |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 24 January 2007 at 9:06pm
Keep the instruction manual handy, use a big table and put a towel down to keep small parts from rolling away and you'll be fine. (Also separate the halves slowly.) -------------
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Posted By: nathanours
Date Posted: 25 January 2007 at 7:16pm
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i heard springs fly everywhere and my friend couldnt get his back together cause he forgot somethin and it leaked so he had to take it back to the pb shop to get it done right, so i am kinda worried... -------------
sorry if this offends any one but it is funny Tippman 98c w/ J&J ceramic barrel polished internals expansion chamber |
Posted By: tecumseh
Date Posted: 25 January 2007 at 8:43pm
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just follow the manuals they give you, and don't lose anything and you will be fine.
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Posted By: paintballinbill
Date Posted: 25 January 2007 at 8:54pm
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think about this: worst case scenerio is you take a picture with your disassembled gun, and we tell you what part to put where ------------- 98 Custom milled;painted;J&J Ceramic;X-Chamber;R/T;Cyclone. |
Posted By: tecumseh
Date Posted: 25 January 2007 at 8:56pm
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thinking about that paintballin' thats actually a pretty good idea. but not for the lazy ones
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Posted By: Eaglez
Date Posted: 25 January 2007 at 10:47pm
| So if you had a stock a5 with a double trigger, could you install an RT and use it without any problems? I just bought a stock a5 with double trigger and i was looking into getting an RT just to make it faster, but i dont know if i can even use the double trigger with the RT or if the Stock Cyclone will feed fast enough |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 25 January 2007 at 11:21pm
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you will probably want to upgrade the cyclone, the vortex mod is pretty cheap.
supposedly double triggers don't work as well with the rt (they will work, but just not as well) ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: paintballinbill
Date Posted: 26 January 2007 at 12:12am
i've tried with both single and double triggers, and they both work, just different feels. after a while using my double trigger, it got easy. i switched back to single, and it seemed to be alot easier to sweetspot. ------------- 98 Custom milled;painted;J&J Ceramic;X-Chamber;R/T;Cyclone. |
Posted By: TIPPY98ACT
Date Posted: 26 January 2007 at 12:34am
| To some people the R/T is harder to sweet spot because the double trigger allows you to apply to much pressure with your fingers. It's individual preference. As far as what the R/T or X-chamber does go to tippmannparts.com, also try actionvillage.com. |
Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 26 January 2007 at 11:30pm
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nathanours: 2 things A) learn to take apart your marker. 98cs are VERY easy to dis-/reassemble once you get the hang of it. if your careful, no springs will go flying or anything. Just make sure to keep the diagram in the manual handy. B) The number of stages in an X-chamber (someone correct me if Im wrong) are the number of cups inside of it that induce the expansion of the Co2. More stages means that its more graded, therefore giving the Co2 more time to expand. DOP X-Cores are a good x-chamber at a good price, but id spend the extra money and go for a palmers stabilizer. not an x-chamber but a regulator (co2 compatible of course), it will give you much better consistency from shot to shot as well as reduction (if not elimination) of liquid Co2 in the marker. Also, X-chambers are useless if and when you switch to comp. air. The stabilizer on the other hand (like any reg) will also improve shot to shot consistency when using HPA. Hope that was helpful  ------------- CPro (w/ polished internals) 14" Bigshot BT SBS Various Rails NcSTAR D4B Macro AA 68/45 
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Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 26 January 2007 at 11:48pm
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Ilford is right about an expanion chamber's stages...that's also decent advice about a Stabilizer, but a little exaggeration. Having a regulator on your gun will help, but won't elimate the risk of liquid CO2 entering the gun. The only absolute sure solution to having liquid enter the gun is not using liquid in the first place. However, Tippmanns are sturdy guns, and a little liquid entering the valve won't reek havoc like it would on an Automag.
But most of all, if you don't even know what a product DOES, then why do you feel that you need it on your paintball gun??? |
Posted By: Simma Down!!
Date Posted: 31 January 2007 at 1:05pm
If you end up going with the vortex mod pm me. I have an extra vortex and lightning rod both brand new in box I need to get rid of. |
Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 31 January 2007 at 4:15pm
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^Ahh you can't sell on the forum. I don't think doing it through PM is okay either. Is it,... anyone? |
Posted By: nathanours
Date Posted: 01 February 2007 at 7:53pm
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so palmer stabalizers will help if i play in colder weather? and will i get more shots per fill with a palmer stabalizer of is that a regulator? -------------
sorry if this offends any one but it is funny Tippman 98c w/ J&J ceramic barrel polished internals expansion chamber |
Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 02 February 2007 at 11:59am
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yes a palmers is a good idea. I wouldn't put a male version on a
woods or milsim setup they are just too long and look out of place. On a speedball 98, (milled even better) they look great. If you're into woods I suggest getting the female stab and a remote if you don't already have one. The female ones are cheaper too. |
Posted By: nathanours
Date Posted: 02 February 2007 at 6:25pm
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i want a pretty versatile gun that i can use for every thing and i dont really care too much about looks just functionality, but will a palmer stab get me more shots per co2 fill? -------------
sorry if this offends any one but it is funny Tippman 98c w/ J&J ceramic barrel polished internals expansion chamber |
Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 02 February 2007 at 7:16pm
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Yup it can. I say you should get a gauge and get a set of maddman springs you and then screw the velocity screw out until the inside of the powertube is flush with the bottom of the screw = max efficiency. Then turn down the output pressure on the palmers and you are saving air/n2 or CO2. |