Why only paintballs
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Topic: Why only paintballs
Posted By: samba371
Subject: Why only paintballs
Date Posted: 27 January 2007 at 8:24pm
I just found my old model 98 and i was wondering if any one has ever shot any thing other than paintballs. Like potatoes, bouncy balls, or maybe even marbles.
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 27 January 2007 at 8:31pm
1. Dangerous
2. Stupid
3. Ruin your gun
4. Repeat #'s 1-4.
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Posted By: samba371
Date Posted: 27 January 2007 at 8:37pm
An answer to both of my posts this one and the one about extra 12 gram cartriges.
1)Get 30 dollars
2)Go to walmart and buy a talon
3)Go home home and put a boucy ball in the barrel and gas it up.
4)Fire away
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 27 January 2007 at 8:39pm
Well, I can't stop you, so enjoy.
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 27 January 2007 at 8:42pm
You want to win the darwin award dont you?
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 27 January 2007 at 8:45pm
You Wont See Me wrote:
You want to win the darwin award dont you?
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QFT
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 27 January 2007 at 8:51pm
I'm gonna have to laugh when it bounces back and hits you in the face.
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Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 27 January 2007 at 9:34pm
i have a friend who did some stuff. (gumballs and marbles) as for me all i've done (just curious to how much the group would stay together) is put airsoft bb's in a shotgun wad and shot it.
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Posted By: samba371
Date Posted: 27 January 2007 at 10:05pm
Cool. How did the marbles and gum balls work.
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Posted By: nathanours
Date Posted: 27 January 2007 at 10:31pm
lol i have seen my friend shoot marbles and frozen paintballs out of his old gun
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 27 January 2007 at 11:09pm
You sir are a moron.
To win darwin awards:
buy 25" barrel.
use welding torch to bend it backwards in u-shape
stick all co2 cartrages in barrel.
fire
repeat if necessary
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 28 January 2007 at 2:27am
^^^you mean an oxyfuel torch... be proper!
btw, ibtl
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Posted By: an94
Date Posted: 28 January 2007 at 8:56am
well Id say the potato would be quite accurate with good tater to barrel match. just dont go shooting at people. oh and they Will go through glass.
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 28 January 2007 at 9:50am
IBTL
Anyway, my friend has shot nails and various other things such as airsoft BBs out of his spyder, They didnt work too well.
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Posted By: xXSniper8xX
Date Posted: 28 January 2007 at 10:21am
I have these crab apple trees in my backyard and we sometimes have a crab apple paintball match. Idiotic yes, but also very fun.
Gobstoppers and cheries sometimes work also
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Posted By: michaela2z
Date Posted: 28 January 2007 at 1:17pm
Old squeegies are good. Too new ones might be 2 tight a fit to fire out the barrel, but older ones fire out fine then you could experiment with different flights (thing they r called flights, aka feathers on the end)
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Posted By: kickinwing2010
Date Posted: 28 January 2007 at 2:16pm
My friend fires golf tees out of his vl triad but be careful they break skin.
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Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 28 January 2007 at 3:13pm
I hope, if you ever do shoot something at someone besides a paintball from your gun at someone, that they get you back.
Maybe shoot something even harder back at you.
and IBTL
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Posted By: paintballinbill
Date Posted: 28 January 2007 at 7:53pm
several of the people posting in this thread are, without a doubt, 2007 Darwin Award nominees.
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Posted By: Squishey
Date Posted: 29 January 2007 at 1:36am
i tried shooting various things out of and old spyder i have,
the list includes
-marble(shattered into tiny unrecognizable pieces)
-i took a bunch of nails and taped them together(shot myself in the foot with it, didnt do squat)
-q-tips
-grapes
-legos
-small change
-sticks
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Posted By: paintballinbill
Date Posted: 29 January 2007 at 11:19am
Squishey wrote:
i tried shooting various things out of and old spyder i have,
-i took a bunch of nails and taped them together(shot myself in the foot with it, didnt do squat)
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all i'm going to say is WOW....now what would possess someone to shoot a cluster of nails at one's own feet?
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Posted By: Squishey
Date Posted: 29 January 2007 at 4:03pm
well it started off i as shooting them at trees and cardboard and nothing was happening, so being a kid that watches jackass, and cky i thought ill shoot myself in the foot.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 29 January 2007 at 5:39pm
an94 wrote:
. . . quite accurate with good tater to barrel match. . . .
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There's a term I never imagined seeing in print.
IBL
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 30 January 2007 at 3:14pm
nathanours wrote:
lol i have seen my friend shoot marbles and frozen paintballs out of his old gun |
You do realize paintballs aren't hard right? If your friend told you that, he's a moron.
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Posted By: husula-10
Date Posted: 30 January 2007 at 4:04pm
there not hard but they leave big bruses lol
they shot me in my cheek cuz i dint have my helmet on in the game ( i was taking a piss) the bruce came up to my eye i count see anything for 2 weeks! and worst of all when the shot me it was from like 15 feet away good part is that i dint go to school for like 2 weeks and i still play after the acsident
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 30 January 2007 at 4:10pm
words can not explan how retarted you are.
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Posted By: Capt.Jonesy
Date Posted: 30 January 2007 at 4:13pm
husula-10 wrote:
there not hard but they leave big ass bruses lol
they shot me in my cheek cuz i dint have my helmet on in the game ( i was taking a piss) the bruce came up to my eye i count see **edited** for 2 weeks! and worst of all when the shot me it was from like 15 feet away good part is that i dint go to school for like 2 weeks and i still play after the acsident
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Sorry, I cant resist. With those spelling skills, you need to stay your butt in school!
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Posted By: Squishey
Date Posted: 30 January 2007 at 7:06pm
carl_the_sniper wrote:
words can not explan how retarted you are. |
i agree, why did you need to talk your mask off to take a wiz? is your penis that small that you dont know where its aimed at?
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 31 January 2007 at 3:31am
usafpilot07 wrote:
The fill in paintballs is GELATIN based. The only change that happens to paintballs is the shell becomes more BRITTLE. Therefore, they hurt LESS. Give me a few minutes, and I'll get you the proof from an experiment me and some friends did that you can throw in your friends face to makke him look like an idiot.
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Got to disagree with you on this. I can't speak for all paint, but I used to keep two 10 round tubes of paintballs in my freezer. I never shot them at anything other than a towel that I would hang up in my garage because I only used them to avoid wasting paint/making a mess when chronoing/sighting in while working on markers. I don't believe the paint ever froze completely solid, but I could reuse them numerous times (firing into the towel and dropping 3' into a cardboard box) before they would crack and leak. I'd always keep one tube in the freezer so I could swap them out every 1/2 hour or so. Life was much simpler when reball came out.
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Posted By: Proboho
Date Posted: 31 January 2007 at 2:53pm
My friend claims to have shot hotdogs and marbles out of his tippmann
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 31 January 2007 at 3:08pm
Mack wrote:
Got to disagree with you on this. I can't speak for all paint, but I used to keep two 10 round tubes of paintballs in my freezer. I never shot them at anything other than a towel that I would hang up in my garage because I only used them to avoid wasting paint/making a mess when chronoing/sighting in while working on markers. I don't believe the paint ever froze completely solid, but I could reuse them numerous times (firing into the towel and dropping 3' into a cardboard box) before they would crack and leak. I'd always keep one tube in the freezer so I could swap them out every 1/2 hour or so. Life was much simpler when reball came out.
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The shell will ALWAYS become more brittle, and the gelatin will NEVER freeze, it's the way they are designed. You may have had a bad batch of paint, so cushiony towel, or hell, even the temperature of your house could effect the velocity of your gun.
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Posted By: pattison
Date Posted: 31 January 2007 at 7:35pm
people who are smart enough to find these are hopefully smart enough not to shoot them
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Posted By: chronic future
Date Posted: 04 February 2007 at 12:26pm
im not going to lie, one time my friend shot a crayola marker out of
his old '99 autococker at me. that hurt a lot more than i thought it
would.
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Posted By: woodsballman
Date Posted: 04 February 2007 at 12:34pm
everyone that is shooting anything other than paintballs out of there guns at other people are very dumb and retarded. especially shooting frozen paintballs at someone from 15 feet away in the face with no mask. once agian you people are retarded.
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 04 February 2007 at 2:30pm
woodsballman wrote:
everyone that is shooting anything other than paintballs out of there guns at other people are very dumb and retarded. especially shooting frozen paintballs at someone from 15 feet away in the face with no mask. once agian you people are retarded. |
IT'S A MYTH.
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 04 February 2007 at 3:06pm
usafpilot07 wrote:
woodsballman wrote:
everyone that is shooting anything other than paintballs out of there guns at other people are very dumb and retarded. especially shooting frozen paintballs at someone from 15 feet away in the face with no mask. once agian you people are retarded.
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IT'S A MYTH.
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So this is how you piss off USAF.
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Posted By: lilsully4
Date Posted: 05 February 2007 at 9:48am
husula-10 wrote:
there not hard but they leave big bruses lol
they shot me in my cheek cuz i dint have my helmet on in the game ( i was taking a piss) the bruce came up to my eye i count see anything for 2 weeks! and worst of all when the shot me it was from like 15 feet away good part is that i dint go to school for like 2 weeks and i still play after the acsident
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Idiot, just plain and simple
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Posted By: Langside
Date Posted: 05 February 2007 at 2:38pm
husula-10 wrote:
there not hard but they leave big bruses lol
they shot me in my cheek cuz i dint have my helmet on in the game ( i was taking a piss) the bruce came up to my eye i count see anything for 2 weeks! and worst of all when the shot me it was from like 15 feet away good part is that i dint go to school for like 2 weeks and i still play after the acsident
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You could have died... What a shame that would have been.
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 05 February 2007 at 10:08pm
hybrid-sniper wrote:
usafpilot07 wrote:
woodsballman wrote:
everyone that is shooting anything other than paintballs out of there guns at other people are very dumb and retarded. especially shooting frozen paintballs at someone from 15 feet away in the face with no mask. once agian you people are retarded.
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IT'S A MYTH.
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So this is how you piss off USAF. |
That, or you know....be Squishey
QUOTE=Langside]
husula-10 wrote:
there not hard but they leave big bruses lol
they shot me in my cheek cuz i dint have my helmet on in the game (
i was taking a piss) the bruce came up to my eye i count see anything for 2 weeks! and worst of all when the shot me it was from like 15 feet away good part is that i dint go to school for like 2 weeks and i still play after the acsident
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You could have died... What a shame that would have been. [/QUOTE]
Please explain to me how he could have died. I'm dying to find out.
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Posted By: vonfeldt7
Date Posted: 08 February 2007 at 10:20pm
samba371 wrote:
Cool. How did the marbles and gum balls work. |
well i was the one kuhndog was reffering to, (and it didnt hurt my gun btw [tippmann a5])
anyways, you can give it a shot if you want. The gumballs easily outshot the marles...pretty cool stuff...
also, to whoever mentioned crab apples...those hurt. really bad. very very bad. (specially from point blank in the THIGH)
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Posted By: Langside
Date Posted: 08 February 2007 at 10:31pm
usafpilot07 wrote:
hybrid-sniper wrote:
usafpilot07 wrote:
woodsballman wrote:
everyone that is shooting anything other than paintballs out of there guns at other people are very dumb and retarded. especially shooting frozen paintballs at someone from 15 feet away in the face with no mask. once agian you people are retarded.
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IT'S A MYTH.
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So this is how you piss off USAF. |
That, or you know....be Squishey
QUOTE=Langside]
husula-10 wrote:
there not hard but they leave big bruses lol
they shot me in my cheek cuz i dint have my helmet on in the game ( i was taking a piss) the bruce came up to my eye i count see anything for 2 weeks! and worst of all when the shot me it was from like 15 feet away good part is that i dint go to school for like 2 weeks and i still play after the acsident
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You could have died... What a shame that would have been.
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Please explain to me how he could have died. I'm dying to find out. [/QUOTE]
Shoot yourself in the eye and report back to me... Idiot
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 09 February 2007 at 2:33pm
Langside wrote:
usafpilot07 wrote:
hybrid-sniper wrote:
usafpilot07 wrote:
woodsballman wrote:
everyone that is shooting anything other than paintballs out of there guns at other people are very dumb and retarded. especially shooting frozen paintballs at someone from 15 feet away in the face with no mask. once agian you people are retarded.
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IT'S A MYTH.
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So this is how you piss off USAF. |
That, or you know....be Squishey
Langside wrote:
husula-10 wrote:
there not hard but they leave big bruses lol
they shot me in my cheek cuz i dint have my helmet on in the game ( i was taking a piss) the bruce came up to my eye i count see anything for 2 weeks! and worst of all when the shot me it was from like 15 feet away good part is that i dint go to school for like 2 weeks and i still play after the acsident
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You could have died... What a shame that would have been.
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Please explain to me how he could have died. I'm dying to find out.
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Shoot yourself in the eye and report back to me... Idiot |
Idiot? Maybe you don't understand common anatomy or physiology. A paintball would damage the eye, yes. But they eye is only given blood through capillaries, therefore, even with a pointblank shot to the eye you would not die. Lose sight? Almost definetly. But the paintball would not even come close to having the mass OR velocity required to puncture deep enough THROUGH your eye to cause a fatal injury. At least know what you are talking about before you try to act like a smart ass.
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Posted By: Cyberdemon
Date Posted: 10 February 2007 at 12:32pm
i fired paper balls out of my tippmann once. i then stuffed the barrel with so much paper balls the air had no place to escape. i still feel like a dumbass for doing it.
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Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 10 February 2007 at 9:18pm
usafpilot07 wrote:
Langside wrote:
usafpilot07 wrote:
hybrid-sniper wrote:
usafpilot07 wrote:
woodsballman wrote:
everyone that is shooting anything other than paintballs out of there guns at other people are very dumb and retarded. especially shooting frozen paintballs at someone from 15 feet away in the face with no mask. once agian you people are retarded.
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IT'S A MYTH.
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So this is how you piss off USAF. |
That, or you know....be Squishey
Langside wrote:
husula-10 wrote:
there not hard but they leave big bruses lol
they shot me in my cheek cuz i dint have my helmet on in the game ( i was taking a piss) the bruce came up to my eye i count see anything for 2 weeks! and worst of all when the shot me it was from like 15 feet away good part is that i dint go to school for like 2 weeks and i still play after the acsident
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You could have died... What a shame that would have been.
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Please explain to me how he could have died. I'm dying to find out.
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Shoot yourself in the eye and report back to me... Idiot
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Idiot? Maybe you don't understand common anatomy or physiology. A paintball would damage the eye, yes. But they eye is only given blood through capillaries, therefore, even with a pointblank shot to the eye you would not die. Lose sight? Almost definetly. But the paintball would not even come close to having the mass OR velocity required to puncture deep enough THROUGH your eye to cause a fatal injury. At least know what you are talking about before you try to act like a smart ass.
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Wouldnt you be able to die, if you were not wearing a mask, and got shot hard enough in the temple? Or possibly the throat? Highly unlikely i know, but is it possible?
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 10 February 2007 at 9:55pm
Unless it goes through your throat or temple, no.
I guess if you had a completely unlucky blood clot turned stroke thing, that could be bad. But that would be pure bad luck.
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 11 February 2007 at 2:32pm
I suppose if you already had a potential aneurysm, or blood clot floating near the area, the trauma from an extremely hot shot COULD cause that clot to worsen. That, and I guess that there is a possibility of damage to the trachea if a very very large amount of shots occurred.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 11 February 2007 at 5:22pm
usafpilot07 wrote:
I suppose if you already had a potential aneurysm, or blood clot floating near the area, the trauma from an extremely hot shot COULD cause that clot to worsen. That, and I guess that there is a possibility of damage to the trachea if a very very large amount of shots occurred.
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Or if some loser was shooting something other than paintballs (harder/heavier projectiles) and happened to hit one of those areas.
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 11 February 2007 at 7:59pm
Mack wrote:
usafpilot07 wrote:
I suppose if you already had a potential aneurysm, or blood clot floating near the area, the trauma from an extremely hot shot COULD cause that clot to worsen. That, and I guess that there is a possibility of damage to the trachea if a very very large amount of shots occurred.
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Or if some loser was shooting something other than paintballs (harder/heavier projectiles) and happened to hit one of those areas.
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Well yeah, but on the subject of temples and throats, we were referring to paintballs.
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Posted By: $400 98custom
Date Posted: 11 February 2007 at 10:36pm
i knew a kid that stuck a stick in his 98 barrel, it went like 3 feet.
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Posted By: Langside
Date Posted: 12 February 2007 at 9:04pm
usafpilot07 wrote:
Mack wrote:
usafpilot07 wrote:
I suppose if you already had a potential aneurysm, or blood clot floating near the area, the trauma from an extremely hot shot COULD cause that clot to worsen. That, and I guess that there is a possibility of damage to the trachea if a very very large amount of shots occurred. |
Or if some loser was shooting something other than paintballs (harder/heavier projectiles) and happened to hit one of those areas.
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Well yeah, but on the subject of temples and throats, we were referring to paintballs.
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I thought he was saying that he put things other that paintballs in his barrel.
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Posted By: $400 98custom
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 6:36pm
any projectile u shoot out of a weapon is lethal. in this case, a paintball, when shot normally doesnt have anough power to kill unless u hit on the money. any other object can kill. bottom line: shooting anything other then normal UNFROZEN paintballs is dangerous and should not be done by anyone
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Posted By: Langside
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 9:42pm
$400 98custom wrote:
when shot normally doesnt have anough power to kill unless u hit on the money. |
My point exactly, he could have died.
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 9:51pm
$400 98custom wrote:
any projectile u shoot out of a weapon is lethal.
in this case, a paintball, when shot normally doesnt have anough power
to kill unless u hit on the money. any other object can kill. bottom
line: shooting anything other then normal UNFROZEN paintballs is
dangerous and should not be done by anyone |
Have you not read any of this thread? A paintball can NOT kill you. Unelss of course, by "on the money," you mean that a surgeon happens to bring out a paintball gun in the middle of open heart surgery, then it's not possible. I've already tried to explain to everyone that 300 feet per second is not enough force and kinetic energy to kill you with anything short of a razor sharp object. Guess what happens when you put a marble in a paintball gun? It's velocity is lower than 300fps because it has MORE MASS x the constant FORCE. Therefore, no, you won't die unless you have a pre-existing medical condition or an open surgery tray over a major organ/artery/vein.
AND FROZEN PAINTBALLS ARE MORE BRITTLE THAN A NORMAL PAINTBALL. FOR GOD'S SAKES, PROFESSIOINAL TEAMS OFTEN KEEPS THEIR CASES ON ICE AND IN COOLERS FOR THIS VERY REASON. DON'T YOU THINK WE WOULD HAVE HAD A DEATH BY NOW IF THAT WEREN'T THE CASE?
Langside wrote:
$400 98custom wrote:
when shot normally doesnt have anough power to kill unless u hit on the money. |
My point exactly, he could have died. |
No. He. Could. Not. Have.
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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 10:28pm
Posted By: Langside
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 10:58pm
usafpilot07 wrote:
$400 98custom wrote:
any projectile u shoot out of a weapon is lethal. in this case, a paintball, when shot normally doesnt have anough power to kill unless u hit on the money. any other object can kill. bottom line: shooting anything other then normal UNFROZEN paintballs is dangerous and should not be done by anyone |
Have you not read any of this thread? A paintball can NOT kill you. Unelss of course, by "on the money," you mean that a surgeon happens to bring out a paintball gun in the middle of open heart surgery, then it's not possible. I've already tried to explain to everyone that 300 feet per second is not enough force and kinetic energy to kill you with anything short of a razor sharp object. Guess what happens when you put a marble in a paintball gun? It's velocity is lower than 300fps because it has MORE MASS x the constant FORCE. Therefore, no, you won't die unless you have a pre-existing medical condition or an open surgery tray over a major organ/artery/vein.
AND FROZEN PAINTBALLS ARE MORE BRITTLE THAN A NORMAL PAINTBALL. FOR GOD'S SAKES, PROFESSIOINAL TEAMS OFTEN KEEPS THEIR CASES ON ICE AND IN COOLERS FOR THIS VERY REASON. DON'T YOU THINK WE WOULD HAVE HAD A DEATH BY NOW IF THAT WEREN'T THE CASE?
Langside wrote:
$400 98custom wrote:
when shot normally doesnt have anough power to kill unless u hit on the money. |
My point exactly, he could have died.
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No. He. Could. Not. Have.
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Posted By: $400 98custom
Date Posted: 14 February 2007 at 9:47am
dang u denied his claim. he got hit in the eye? ffs that had to hurt
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Posted By: Black_Shadow
Date Posted: 14 February 2007 at 11:29am
carl_the_sniper wrote:
You sir are a moron.
To win darwin awards:
buy 25" barrel.
use welding torch to bend it backwards in u-shape
stick all co2 cartrages in barrel.
fire
repeat if necessary |
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Posted By: $400 98custom
Date Posted: 14 February 2007 at 1:33pm
id love to see that
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 14 February 2007 at 4:15pm
Freezing paintballs only makes them brittle... dont be noobs.
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 6:34am
Langside wrote:
usafpilot07 wrote:
$400 98custom wrote:
any projectile u shoot out of a weapon is lethal. in this case, a paintball, when shot normally doesnt have anough power to kill unless u hit on the money. any other object can kill. bottom line: shooting anything other then normal UNFROZEN paintballs is dangerous and should not be done by anyone |
Have you not read any of this thread? A paintball can NOT kill you. Unelss of course, by "on the money," you mean that a surgeon happens to bring out a paintball gun in the middle of open heart surgery, then it's not possible. I've already tried to explain to everyone that 300 feet per second is not enough force and kinetic energy to kill you with anything short of a razor sharp object. Guess what happens when you put a marble in a paintball gun? It's velocity is lower than 300fps because it has MORE MASS x the constant FORCE. Therefore, no, you won't die unless you have a pre-existing medical condition or an open surgery tray over a major organ/artery/vein.
AND FROZEN PAINTBALLS ARE MORE BRITTLE THAN A NORMAL PAINTBALL. FOR GOD'S SAKES, PROFESSIOINAL TEAMS OFTEN KEEPS THEIR CASES ON ICE AND IN COOLERS FOR THIS VERY REASON. DON'T YOU THINK WE WOULD HAVE HAD A DEATH BY NOW IF THAT WEREN'T THE CASE?
Langside wrote:
$400 98custom wrote:
when shot normally doesnt have anough power to kill unless u hit on the money. |
My point exactly, he could have died.
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No. He. Could. Not. Have.
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Are you really that dumb? You do know that screws are extremely sharp at the point right? Not only that, but the marker that was fired from had it velocity screw removed.
I fail to see how you linking to an instance of a young child dying due to a sharp object(just like I said) from a hot gun; to a kid who took his mask off during the game. I mean, unless you just happen to drop the occasional screw into your hopper.
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Posted By: Langside
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 7:08am
Right he said that it was NOT paint in the marker. That is why I said he COULD has been killed.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 1:38pm
usafpilot07 wrote:
Are you really that dumb? You do know that screws are extremely sharp at the point right? Not only that, but the marker that was fired from had it velocity screw removed.
I fail to see how you linking to an instance of a young child dying due to a sharp object(just like I said) from a hot gun; to a kid who took his mask off during the game. I mean, unless you just happen to drop the occasional screw into your hopper.
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I didn't see in the article where it specified the gun was hot or the velocity screw was removed. Neither was the type of marker specified. However, if the marker was a Spyder clone, removing the velocity screw would decrease velocity as it decreased the pressure on the spring and would not result in a hot gun. If the marker was a Tippmann or BE, removing the velocity screw would also decrease velocity as air pressure would be lost through the screw hole.
Of course, neither of these may apply if there is further info I have not found yet.
Edited Note: Additionally, the gun would probably not need to be hot for a pointed object to be dangerous. The much smaller intial contact area of the projectile concentrates the kinetic energy onto a single point as opposed to dispersing it like a paintball shaped projectile does.
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 1:50pm
Mack wrote:
usafpilot07 wrote:
Are you really that dumb? You do know that screws are extremely
sharp at the point right? Not only that, but the marker that was fired
from had it velocity screw removed.
I fail to see how you
linking to an instance of a young child dying due to a sharp
object(just like I said) from a hot gun; to a kid who took his mask off
during the game. I mean, unless you just happen to drop the occasional
screw into your hopper.
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I
didn't see in the article where it specified the gun was hot or the
velocity screw was removed. Neither was the type of marker specified.
However, if the marker was a Spyder clone, removing the velocity screw
would decrease velocity as it decreased the pressure on the spring and
would not result in a hot gun. If the marker was a Tippmann or BE,
removing the velocity screw would also decrease velocity as air
pressure would be lost through the screw hole.
Of course, neither of these may apply if there is further info I have not found yet.
Edited
Note: Additionally, the gun would probably not need to be hot for a
pointed object to be dangerous. The much smaller intial contact area of
the projectile concentrates the kinetic energy onto a single point as
opposed to dispersing it like a paintball shaped projectile does.
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Removing the velocity screw on a Tippmann(ProCarbines at least) increases velocity. Riot squads using pepperballs and other deterrents use this method to increase effectiveness. The gun used was some type of tippmann, as the case was all over PBN when it happened.
Langside wrote:
Right he said that it was NOT paint in the marker. That is why I said he COULD has been killed. |
He said the "bruce," and while I don't know what he is referring to, I would assume it is slang for paint. Seeing as he is mentioning playing in an actual game, and not just goofing off.
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Posted By: $400 98custom
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 3:53pm
the velocity screw doesnt matter. the idiot was still dumb enough to put a foreign object into the gun and shoot it at a little kid. ppl r just too dumb nowadays
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 3:59pm
$400 98custom wrote:
the velocity screw doesnt matter. the idiot was still dumb enough to put a foreign object into the gun and shoot it at a little kid. ppl r just too dumb nowadays |
If the velocity screw hadn't been removed, the gun could have been shooting at LEAST 150 fps slower....
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 5:09pm
usafpilot07 wrote:
Removing the velocity screw on a Tippmann(ProCarbines at least) increases velocity. Riot squads using pepperballs and other deterrents use this method to increase effectiveness. The gun used was some type of tippmann, as the case was all over PBN when it happened. |
The velocity screw on stock Tippmann 98s, A5s and X7s works by interrupting the airflow between the valve and the chamber. In essence, when the screw is screwed farther in, it blocks the air passage and slows the rate/volume of air release. The same amount of air is released, but the rate is effected. It's been awhile since I got rid of my Pro-Carbine and 68 Carbine, but I seem to remember them working in the same way.
With this in mind, you can crank the velocity up on a Tippmann by turning the screw out. However, once the screw no longer protrudes into the air flow, no further gain in velocity is achieved. In fact, it is contended that a slight velocity loss could occur from going past this point (approximately 4 turns out from all the way in) because a negative void is created in the air chamber which allows further expansion of the released propellant, thus reducing chamber pressure. At a certain point, if the screw is backed out far enough, air leakage around the velocity screw could also have a negative effect on velocity.
Now, if you remove the screw entirely, you just left an opening of approximately 7mm in diameter for your propellant gasses to leak out of without propelling the projectile. When you consider that the approximate barrel diameter is 20mm, you have avout 25% of your propelling gasses being wasted by direct venting into the atmosphere.
All in all, I don't see how removing the velocity screw from a Tippmann would increase the velocity.
As a side note on the Pepperball markers, I remember reading when they first came out that the internals/springs had been strengthened for Law Enforcement use. They had a warning at the time that the markers could not be safely used for regular paintball play.
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 5:25pm
Mack wrote:
usafpilot07 wrote:
Removing the velocity screw on a Tippmann(ProCarbines at least) increases velocity. Riot squads using pepperballs and other deterrents use this method to increase effectiveness. The gun used was some type of tippmann, as the case was all over PBN when it happened. |
The velocity screw on stock Tippmann 98s, A5s and X7s works by interrupting the airflow between the valve and the chamber. In essence, when the screw is screwed farther in, it blocks the air passage and slows the rate/volume of air release. The same amount of air is released, but the rate is effected. It's been awhile since I got rid of my Pro-Carbine and 68 Carbine, but I seem to remember them working in the same way.
With this in mind, you can crank the velocity up on a Tippmann by turning the screw out. However, once the screw no longer protrudes into the air flow, no further gain in velocity is achieved. In fact, it is contended that a slight velocity loss could occur from going past this point (approximately 4 turns out from all the way in) because a negative void is created in the air chamber which allows further expansion of the released propellant, thus reducing chamber pressure. At a certain point, if the screw is backed out far enough, air leakage around the velocity screw could also have a negative effect on velocity.
Now, if you remove the screw entirely, you just left an opening of approximately 7mm in diameter for your propellant gasses to leak out of without propelling the projectile. When you consider that the approximate barrel diameter is 20mm, you have avout 25% of your propelling gasses being wasted by direct venting into the atmosphere.
All in all, I don't see how removing the velocity screw from a Tippmann would increase the velocity.
As a side note on the Pepperball markers, I remember reading when they first came out that the internals/springs had been strengthened for Law Enforcement use. They had a warning at the time that the markers could not be safely used for regular paintball play.
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The negative effect of the void would be negligible after the first few shots.
This is just a rough sketch, but it should show what I mean.
In the top image, it would represent having a velocity screw screwed in. This forces air molecules through a reduced space.
But, in the lower image, it shows that the amount of airflow gained by removing the velocity screw is greater than the amount of air molecules that can escape through the gap.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 5:32pm
usafpilot07 wrote:
Mack wrote:
usafpilot07 wrote:
Removing the velocity screw on a Tippmann(ProCarbines at least) increases velocity. Riot squads using pepperballs and other deterrents use this method to increase effectiveness. The gun used was some type of tippmann, as the case was all over PBN when it happened. |
The velocity screw on stock Tippmann 98s, A5s and X7s works by interrupting the airflow between the valve and the chamber. In essence, when the screw is screwed farther in, it blocks the air passage and slows the rate/volume of air release. The same amount of air is released, but the rate is effected. It's been awhile since I got rid of my Pro-Carbine and 68 Carbine, but I seem to remember them working in the same way.
With this in mind, you can crank the velocity up on a Tippmann by turning the screw out. However, once the screw no longer protrudes into the air flow, no further gain in velocity is achieved. In fact, it is contended that a slight velocity loss could occur from going past this point (approximately 4 turns out from all the way in) because a negative void is created in the air chamber which allows further expansion of the released propellant, thus reducing chamber pressure. At a certain point, if the screw is backed out far enough, air leakage around the velocity screw could also have a negative effect on velocity.
Now, if you remove the screw entirely, you just left an opening of approximately 7mm in diameter for your propellant gasses to leak out of without propelling the projectile. When you consider that the approximate barrel diameter is 20mm, you have avout 25% of your propelling gasses being wasted by direct venting into the atmosphere.
All in all, I don't see how removing the velocity screw from a Tippmann would increase the velocity.
As a side note on the Pepperball markers, I remember reading when they first came out that the internals/springs had been strengthened for Law Enforcement use. They had a warning at the time that the markers could not be safely used for regular paintball play.
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The negative effect of the void would be negligible after the first few shots.
This is just a rough sketch, but it should show what I mean.
In the top image, it would represent having a velocity screw screwed in. This forces air molecules through a reduced space.
But, in the lower image, it shows that the amount of airflow gained by removing the velocity screw is greater than the amount of air molecules that can escape through the gap.
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It's a nice picture, but basic math and fluid dynamics prove it incorrect.
One thing I should have mentioned earlier that probably makes the velocity argument moot anyway is that it is doubtful that a good screw to barrel match was achieved. It wasn't the velocity that made the screw dangerous, it was its shape and density.
Edited Note: Your pics prove my point. Note in your illustration that if you back the velocity screw out to where it is flush with the inside of the tube, you have unobstructed and complete air flow. In the second pic, where it is removed, you still have unobstructed airflow but not complete airflow.
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Posted By: Langside
Date Posted: 16 February 2007 at 3:12am
Last year I was playin and I lost my A5 screw and it was shooting at 280 - 310. I was confused
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Posted By: Cyberdemon
Date Posted: 17 February 2007 at 5:16pm
THE WARS WILL CONTINUE!
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Posted By: General_Lee
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 12:19pm
As I'm not stupid enough to shoot foreign objects from my A5 I have tried and with good results... sometimes... inserting another PAINTBALL down the barrel so it contacts the first, then shooting both ..... it works accuratley sometimes... not always
its easier and works better to just go full auto.
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Posted By: Black_Shadow
Date Posted: 20 February 2007 at 8:07am
General_Lee wrote:
As I'm not stupid enough to shoot foreign objects from my A5 I have tried and with good results... sometimes... inserting another PAINTBALL down the barrel so it contacts the first, then shooting both ..... it works accuratley sometimes... not always
its easier and works better to just go full auto.
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Not to mention you don't have to risk breaking a ball shoving it down your barrel..
i do know someone who has shot marbles out of their gun, it scratched up the inside of the barrel, and did some wicked damage to the wood he was aiming at...
Its stupid to put stuff in your gun that doesn't belong... anyone dumb enough to do it should not be allowed to own a PAINTBALL gun
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Posted By: Langside
Date Posted: 20 February 2007 at 1:37pm
Hamster in barrel... Messy.
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Posted By: Black_Shadow
Date Posted: 20 February 2007 at 3:01pm
Langside wrote:
Hamster in barrel... Messy. |
One of my friends wanted to try his hamster in his spud gun once...
thankfully the hamster was sleeping in his cage and out of reach of my friend...
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Posted By: Commander_Cool
Date Posted: 21 February 2007 at 12:46pm
The hamster would have been humourous....
1) paintballs are not lethal, but cause damage when fired at sensitive soft tissues (eyes, and the tissue behind the eyes), they are dangerous but not lethal, I don't know what the result would be if the velocity was cranked WAY up and fired at point black range at the human eye, though.
2) shooting other things out of your gun is dangerous,..
things such as screws are denser, stronger, and have a sharp point that concentrated all of the energy at a single point. As a result they will not break apart like a paintball, and the impact is not spread over a a larger area. You can die or be seriously injured from shooting objects such as screws out of your gun.
I do not know the effects of shooting objects that wont easily break apart such as marbles. I would imagine that they would travel at a slower speed than paintballs, but that the velocity could always be increased, bringing the object up to a speed where it is dangerous (more so than a paintball since it will not break on impact).
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Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 21 February 2007 at 7:38pm
I just heard, in our school's Lifetime Fitness gym class,(you go paintballing in it), a person brought a marble to school, put it in one of the guns and shot it at a roll of carpeting.
If only i was there and knew about it. I guess the stupid kid shot another kid in the back of the head when no one had masks on.
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Posted By: netramakin
Date Posted: 02 March 2007 at 9:56am
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That's the funniest thing I've read all week.
At my local Wal-mart, on the same rack with the paintball stuff, they sell steel shot that looks about the size of a paintball. I always wondered if you could shoot it successfully and how long it would take for some idiot to kill someone with one.
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