performance
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Category: Paintball Equipment
Forum Name: Upgrades and Customizing
Forum Description: Trick it out!
URL: http://www.tippmannsports.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=164238
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Topic: performance
Posted By: (V)ike
Subject: performance
Date Posted: 06 February 2007 at 2:45pm
Hi, I'm new to the forum, but not to the game. I have a old spyder TL that I bought back in 2000. I think it is time for me to buy a new gun, and the A-5 looks like a good one to buy. My question is what are the best performance upgrades for an A-5, and best type of sight that I can buy for it?
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 06 February 2007 at 3:04pm
Welcome to the forum.
The A-5 is an excellent gun, particularly if you play woodsball. But as for performance upgrades, that really depends on what type of performance you are looking for.
A new barrel is a good early upgrade - all your usual barrels apply, as well as the Flatline and Apex barrels for special uses. A firepower upgrade is always nifty, and there are basically two: RT or E-Grip.
After that, it is really about the same upgrades as for other guns, in terms of drops/ASAs, tanks, regulators, etc.
It all depends on what type of "performance" you are looking for.
And then there are other upgrades - hoppers, sights, foregrips, and sundry cosmetic attachments.
Not sure what you mean by "scoop".
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Posted By: (V)ike
Date Posted: 06 February 2007 at 3:45pm
That is good that it makes a good gun for woods. That is my favorite game. I’m looking for accuracy, distance, speed, and power. I don’t care too much for the cosmetics. And I meant to say scope or sight not scoop. Anyways I was reading the post thing and it said that a red dot site is better then a scope, so what is a really good red dot sight?
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 06 February 2007 at 3:56pm
What do you mean by "power"?
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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 06 February 2007 at 4:34pm
A5 is a great woodsball gun with tons of upgrades. I would reccomend playing with the gun stock for a few games to get a feel for what you think you need to upgrade.
You're going to have to choose between accuracy and distance. Your straight barrels will give you accuracy, but the same distance throughout. Two barrels give you extra distance: the Flatline and the Apex. The latter being the more accurate imo. You're goign to lose accuracy the farther away your taget is due to more space for your balls to stray off course.
Speed. You have two options: the RT and the Egrip. The RT fires on the pull and release and can be "super" upgraded to throw ropes of paint. The Egrip gives you many options as to your firing mode and is tourney legal unlike the RT. Again, this is your choice as to which you like.
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Posted By: michaela2z
Date Posted: 06 February 2007 at 7:42pm
sinisterNorth wrote:
Speed. You have two options: the RT and the Egrip. The RT fires on the pull and release and can be "super" upgraded to throw ropes of paint. The Egrip gives you many options as to your firing mode and is tourney legal unlike the RT. Again, this is your choice as to which you like.
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Just to clarify the RT does not fire one the pull and release of the trigger, this is a mode on the Egrip where the board can be set to fire on the pull and release of the trigger called 'Response Mode'. The RT (response trigger) is essentially a piston the resets the trigger once it has been pulled. This means that if 'the sweet spot' can be achieved the finger can pull the trigger and the piston will return the tirgger and then without the finger movin the trigger is then pulled again. This is a really crap description of it but it was more to clear the fact that installin a RT does not give u a shot per pull and release of the trigger, this is a mode on the Egrip. I suggest u search exactly what an RT does as my description aint gr8 but it does allow high ROF especially with the super RT mod.
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Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 06 February 2007 at 8:33pm
All I can say about the RT is "Sweetspot, baby!".
I'd suggest you go out and buy an A-5, (V)ike, then decide what upgrades you want. As said before, a new barrel is probably a good idea, and there are tons of upgrades available for the Tippmann series of markers.
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 06 February 2007 at 8:41pm
Just play with the gun stock to see what needs improvement, then upgrade.
I just love how sinister keeps on relaying the same false information about the R/T over and over. Maybe someone should PM him the real info.
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Posted By: (V)ike
Date Posted: 07 February 2007 at 1:54pm
Is the flatline a good barrel?
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Posted By: MoNkeY Hunter
Date Posted: 07 February 2007 at 9:41pm
^ Yes....And no..... I'd suggest that you learn some more and try one out before you purchase one.
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Posted By: Shadowminion
Date Posted: 08 February 2007 at 1:35pm
The flatline is good at getting more distance (better than any straight barrel) , but you lose accuracy , the trade off isnt worth it IMO .
FYI :
E-grip Response mode :
allows you to fire twice with each pull of the trigger , once when you depress the trigger , and again when you release the trigger .
RT or Response Trigger :
Fires one round when the trigger is depressed , and a small piston pushes out the trigger again , with some tuning and a delicate touch on the trigger , a high rate of fire can be achieved by your trigger finger "Bouncing" on the trigger , counteracting the momentary pressure that cylinder puts on the trigger . Also called "Sweetspotting"
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Posted By: Divine
Date Posted: 11 February 2007 at 12:03am
THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH!!! i had my e trigger on my A-5 and never fully bothered to read the manual...(stupid me) to find out about the response mode. thats awesome!
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Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 11 February 2007 at 12:17am
If you want a red dot sight like you asked earlier, I'd go with Tasco - although they tend to be more cosmetic than a help.
By the way I'd suggest the Apex if you want distance.
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Posted By: (V)ike
Date Posted: 12 February 2007 at 7:12pm
Can you give me a link to the tasco red dot sight for the paintball guns?
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Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 11:02am
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=tasco+red+dot+sight&btnG=Google+Search&meta= - Here
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Posted By: (V)ike
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 1:56pm
They all say rifle scope, so will they fit for an A-5?
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Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 2:23pm
I'm pretty sure you want one that can fit a weaver rail.
I'm pretty sure these should work fine.
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30mm
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Posted By: (V)ike
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 3:04pm
The 30mm link is not working. And Do I have to buy the weaver rail seprate or does it come with the sight?
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Posted By: (V)ike
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 3:22pm
I want somthing like this, but with an E-Grip and red sight.
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Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 4:10pm
The weaver rail is what is on top of your gun already. (I think the A-5
has weaver style as well). Both guns have ridges sticking out of
the top of the marker this is the rail.
If you want that type you can get them at a local store I'm sure.
I'd refer you to Canadian Tire but you're american so a store that
sells outdoor goods and has a hunting section (even walmart might have
it) should have a red dot sight like the one you showed me.
Edit-- the 30mm link should work now.
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 4:14pm
The rails on the A-5 are not Weaver rails, and most Weaver attachments will not fit. The A-5 has two sizes of dovetail rails. Almost any rail attachment OTHER than Weaver/Picatinny will fit the A-5.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 4:18pm
phil_stl wrote:
The weaver rail is what is on top of your gun already. (I think the A-5
has weaver style as well). Both guns have ridges sticking out of
the top of the marker this is the rail.
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Clark Kent wrote:
The rails on the A-5 are not Weaver rails, and most
Weaver attachments will not fit. The A-5 has two sizes of dovetail
rails. Almost any rail attachment OTHER than Weaver/Picatinny will fit
the A-5. |
Clark is correct. A weaver rail looks like this:

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Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 4:21pm
Clark Kent wrote:
The rails on the A-5 are not Weaver rails, and most
Weaver attachments will not fit. The A-5 has two sizes of
dovetail rails. Almost any rail attachment OTHER than
Weaver/Picatinny will fit the A-5. |
Okay I wasn't sure thanks for clarifying that.
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Posted By: (V)ike
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 10:21am
phil_stl wrote:
I'm pretty sure you want one that can fit a weaver rail.
I'm pretty sure these should work fine.
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Will they fit on the A-5?
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Posted By: jamminrod
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 10:33am
check out my other post about the Rampage boards that are coming.
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Posted By: TippmannsRkool9
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 7:53pm
Get an A-5 with a R/T and E-grip as well as a sight rail and flatline barrel, that setup should give you good performances.
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Posted By: (V)ike
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 9:36pm
TippmannsRkool9 wrote:
Get an A-5 with a R/T and E-grip as well as a sight rail and flatline barrel, that setup should give you good performances. |
What is a R/T? Thats not a Response trigger is it?
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Posted By: (V)ike
Date Posted: 20 February 2007 at 9:30am
Can somegive me a link that can tell me what a R/T is?
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Posted By: Langside
Date Posted: 20 February 2007 at 2:25pm
Posted By: (V)ike
Date Posted: 20 February 2007 at 4:08pm
Langside wrote:
RT is a ResponseTrigger |
Thats what I thought, but I've seen it wretten two diffrent ways so I wasn't sure. RT or R/T = the same thing. The past few weeks is the first time I hear about RTs, E-Grips, and all of those other things. When I bought my spyder tl 7 years ago the only upgrades I new were double triggers. I don't think that they had all those upgrades back then and I was only 14 then, and I just wanted the gun. Now that I want a new gun. I want to make sure of all the upgradable options I have. Thank you people for all your patents with me. I know that I driving some of you people crazy.
TippmannsRkool9 wrote:
Get an A-5 with R/T and E-grip as well as a sight rail and flatline barrel, that set up should give you good performances. |
It's possible to have a RT and a e-grip on the same gun? I thought that you can only have one or the other.
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Posted By: Commander_Cool
Date Posted: 21 February 2007 at 1:29pm
They had other upgrades back then for spyders. (barrels, electronic sear trigger frame....SPRINT frames?, regulators, expansion chambers, etc).
Sights are stupid, you wear a mask and shoot 100 feet away, what could possibly be aiming at so carefully?
Scopes are stupider... the magnify things from far away, so they are easier to shoot, you are playing within 100 feet of other players, in addition you were a mask, you can't put your eye u to a scope then...pretty darn silly.
Flatline and Apex Barrels: They increase range, but decrease accuracy, in addition the they are also less likely to break at the increased range, due to the fact that they are traveling at a slower speed.
If youy must get one, the Apex is better. The flatline is apparently a pain to install and then you are stuck with it unless you wanna go through a big process to remove it (I am not sure, I won't use 1). The Apex can just be removed like a normal barrel.
You are probably better off just getting a regular aftermarket barrel like a Lapco bigshot, or if you really want to go crazy get an Evil Pipe Kit.
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Posted By: (V)ike
Date Posted: 22 February 2007 at 9:40am
Commander_Cool wrote:
Flatline and Apex Barrels: They increase range, but decrease accuracy, in addition the they are also less likely to break at the increased range, due to the fact that they are traveling at a slower speed. |
I know someone that used a flatline barrel and he told me that it is accurate evan at long destinces.
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Posted By: Black_Shadow
Date Posted: 22 February 2007 at 9:58am
They can be, but the flatline is REALLY picky about paint... the only pant i used that didnt give me tons of breaks in a flatline was diablo hellfire and those cost me 90 bucks a case...
they can be accurate at long range, but its much less likely, since you have to hold your gun perfectly upright or your ball will curve...
(this has been used to cuvre the ball around objects and hit people who thot they were hiding... its pretty kool)
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Posted By: paintballinbill
Date Posted: 22 February 2007 at 12:32pm
you can't use an e-grip and response trigger together. its either one or the other...
and about the flatline issue: i've used several types of paint, from PMI Marballizers and Premium $60-$70+ per case, down to this crappy "heavy metal" paint that my brother-in-law got me for christmas a year ago. the biggest key is the paintball's size. it needs to take small-bore paint, and can't handle even medium-bore, they'll just break in the barrel. if you can put a ball in the barrel, and it rolls out without too much trouble (maybe blow down the barrel a little bit), then you're golden. otherwise, the paint is probably too big.
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Posted By: (V)ike
Date Posted: 22 February 2007 at 1:07pm
paintballinbill wrote:
you can't use an e-grip and response trigger together. its either one or the other...
and about the flatline issue: i've used several types of paint, from PMI Marballizers and Premium $60-$70+ per case, down to this crappy "heavy metal" paint that my brother-in-law got me for christmas a year ago. the biggest key is the paintball's size. it needs to take small-bore paint, and can't handle even medium-bore, they'll just break in the barrel. if you can put a ball in the barrel, and it rolls out without too much trouble (maybe blow down the barrel a little bit), then you're golden. otherwise, the paint is probably too big.
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Thats what I thought. I rather have an E-Grip . I Thought that the best balls for the flatline were medium.
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