buying a speedball gun
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Topic: buying a speedball gun
Posted By: killerhalo
Subject: buying a speedball gun
Date Posted: 08 February 2007 at 8:37pm
| i have been playing woodsball for around a year now never touched speedball i am wanting to get into it have a comp air tank just need a hopper alredy got one in mind dxs puls or a v35halo any tipss on a good but not to expencive speed ball guns i am not buying a spider or ion or the pmr any help is welcom |
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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 08 February 2007 at 9:10pm
| DP Fusion is $350. Is that too high? |
Posted By: killerhalo
Date Posted: 08 February 2007 at 9:13pm
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no never herd of it i was thinking along the lines of evil minion
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Posted By: Langside
Date Posted: 08 February 2007 at 10:47pm
| Why not an Ion? You could try and get a used Shocker/DM5 or something like that. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 08 February 2007 at 11:30pm
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Used is the way to go my friend. Markers are starting to be like computers, there's no sense in buying this year's model when it'll be half-as-cheap within 6 months to a year. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 09 February 2007 at 7:10am
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Look into a used Shocker or Angel. If you want to spend a little less than those, look into a used Ion or DMLCD. ------------- Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 09 February 2007 at 1:21pm
Fixed!  ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
sinisterNorth wrote:Posted By: killerhalo
Date Posted: 09 February 2007 at 2:51pm
| no angles they are good but i dont want one i have offers on pbnation for omens dm4 and minions |
Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 09 February 2007 at 3:42pm
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dont go for the omen if your looking at minions. They are evils low end gun. How much are you looking to spend? I like Defiant2s, but with the introduction of the Big 3, they are going to be dropping in price. ------------- 
hybrid-sniper~"To be honest, if I see a player still using an Impulse I'm going to question their motives." |
Posted By: killerhalo
Date Posted: 09 February 2007 at 4:37pm
| no there not i have shot one wih the viertue brd it rips why would you say something like that i have shot a defients also great gun around 700 or less |
Posted By: Commander_Cool
Date Posted: 09 February 2007 at 6:06pm
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Buy a PM6, since the PM7's came down they are all marked down to 550 dollars. ------------- 2005 Freestyle Naughty Dawg Freestyle Angel LCD SP-8 Tippmann 98 Custom |
Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 10 February 2007 at 5:26pm
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Talking about my Omen comment? They are evil's low end gun. Omen, then Pimp, then Minion. I did a quick search, about 8 places online, the only place ive seen them still up for sale have them at a rediculous price. And they listed the Pimp only $25 less than the Minion. So much for that site... They arent that great of guns. People arent going to buy them over an ion. At one point yes, i was thinking about getting one when they were on sale, but now, i can do better research and say there are better guns out there. Sure anything with a virtue is going to shoot better. But instead of using eyes, they use arms(or atleast the ones im thinking of). People now want the guns with the laser eyes that you can see, not a gun that puts the hopper an inch to the right. -------------
hybrid-sniper~"To be honest, if I see a player still using an Impulse I'm going to question their motives." |
Posted By: lester98c
Date Posted: 10 February 2007 at 6:39pm
| Not sure why your not into the Rail but i just bought one and it seems to be amazing.I originaly thought they were plastic pieces of crap bough i saw one for a really nice price so i picked it up and im impressed. |
Posted By: an94
Date Posted: 11 February 2007 at 1:05am
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buy a cheap ion, PM5-6, Timmy, shocker, Etek . dont go with an Angel or any other really high end gun. you are use to woodball guns. high end guns NEED work done to them all the time, or they WILL break down. those 5 guns I just named are good starter speedball guns. and like I said dont get an Angel just yet. they are really great guns "if" you know what your doing... heck if you want you can always get a e-cocker really cheap too. good luck ------------- 1 paintball gun package=$150 1 case of paint=$50 air & entry fee=$15 lighting up newbies all day long= Priceless |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 11 February 2007 at 1:03pm
Do you even know what the heck you're talking about? Most high end markers are virtually maintenance free. Aside from pulling the bolt and lubing the moving parts every 10,000 rounds and throwing in a fresh battery about every 6,000 or so (for most markers) it's easy. The only problems you ever have from a high-end marker are the ones you, as the user, create by f-ing around with the dwell and pulse settings without knowing what you're doing. That said, an e-cocker presents far more maintenance issues, as do electro sear-trippers of all types, than the average high-end electropneumatic marker. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 11 February 2007 at 10:19pm
QFT. If anything goes wrong that can't be fixed by lubing or a quick wipe down (i.e blow reg or seleniod) its usually users fault. |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 12 February 2007 at 1:07am
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Posted By: killerhalo
Date Posted: 12 February 2007 at 2:55pm
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not gettin any of theses i am getting a invert mini now i ot to use the frist one in jax fl at the feild i work at its fast and light i have wanted one then changed my mind i was going to get a minion or a shocker then i finly got to shoot the mini nok i am wanting one again
now dont try to talk me out of it i already payed for it |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 12 February 2007 at 3:17pm
Three words: Proprietary-Reg-Threading  ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: killerhalo
Date Posted: 12 February 2007 at 3:31pm
| ..................??????????????? explain tallen i am not sure what all that means to me realy i know its a noob question |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 12 February 2007 at 4:28pm
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Alright, the biggest issue that most people have with the invert mini is that the reg system uses a proprietary treads to attach it to the marker (read, only the company that makes the gun makes things that will fit that threading) rather than using the universal threading used for regs and air-bottles. It limits your options for regs severely. I'm an air-flow junkie, so it affects my opinion big time as the stock reg isn't that great. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: killerhalo
Date Posted: 12 February 2007 at 7:07pm
| oh ok but there is no use in replaceing it the reg it self is acutly the asa so it doesnt do u much good to put anther one on it i hve resucherd teh mini alot in teh past few mothns sence it was relesd at world cup |
Posted By: $400 98custom
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 7:04pm
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TIPPMANN 98 CUSTOM: never gone wrong with mine, always works and always plays the same. no matter what kind of pb u play, the 98 is very adaptable and works in almost every situation ------------- <giant sig = bad> BACK TO THE USSR |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 7:47pm
Wow. Tallen is not a n00b. He is a big boy and knows how to use big boy guns. Tallen. I would say hold of and check out some other markers like the Dangerous Power Fusion or the PMR. I've been hearing some odd stories about the mini, in one the whole body cracked. But if you are really into the Mini then I guess waiting for a decent reg should be worth it, I dunno. |
Posted By: $400 98custom
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 7:57pm
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so i like tippmann, got a problem with it? after all ur only using their forum ------------- <giant sig = bad> BACK TO THE USSR |
Posted By: killerhalo
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 8:32pm
| ok heres the deal $400 98custom dont tell me about 98s i work a a field that is a certifed tech center i my self am not a certifed tech but i am a 98 owner with around 600 in upgrades and reaparis done i do around 3000 in reapairs to the guns the we rent out wich are 98s a5s and other tippmanns that are brought by our customers so dont tell me about 98s ok so keep your noob coments to your self from now on and your sig just sucks its retarted |
Posted By: $400 98custom
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 8:46pm
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what the hell? i am suporting tippmann and u piss off like that. what crawled up your @$$? and besides, ur sig isnt that much better u kno ------------- <giant sig = bad> BACK TO THE USSR |
Posted By: killerhalo
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 8:50pm
| i make fun of the worst gun on the markit most autocockers are better or the same qulity of a tippmann |
Posted By: $400 98custom
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 8:54pm
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yes, thats true. my tippmanns just really tricked out so its not like the wally world ones ------------- <giant sig = bad> BACK TO THE USSR |
Posted By: killerhalo
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 8:56pm
| i can tell form your sig the funny part is the fact that almost every one that has an upes 98 has spent around 400 its not all the rare |
Posted By: $400 98custom
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 8:59pm
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im not speaking it out like its rare im just letting ppl kno what i got ------------- <giant sig = bad> BACK TO THE USSR |
Posted By: killerhalo
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 9:00pm
| ok dont ever do that one pbnation or anyother fourm and realy what if you get an a5 and whant to hange you name i dont think you can |
Posted By: $400 98custom
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 9:02pm
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well.... yea true. but if i ever sell that 98 il get a new one, after all, 98s are all ive ever used/owned. real reliable and stuff ------------- <giant sig = bad> BACK TO THE USSR |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 9:13pm
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I didn't mean to start a bad grammar fight. Guys, 98c are good and all, but they aren't what he wants. He wants an high-end electric marker for a mid-range price I assume. And as I gathered from this forum, Tallen has alot more years under his belt then most on this forum (maybe more than some have been alive) and is way past a 98c starter kit.
...And both your sigs are stupid. |
Posted By: $400 98custom
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 9:18pm
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thank you
he doesnt have to buy a starter kit, he can just buy the 98. but i do agree that the 98 is becoming obsolete. my best recomendation for him is prolly a smart parts ion. never owned one, but my friend did. ------------- <giant sig = bad> BACK TO THE USSR |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 9:22pm
And yet again. Hes not a n00b and he wants something HIGH END (as it seems). None of which you mentioned are remotely near the quality that he might be seeking. |
Posted By: $400 98custom
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 9:23pm
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y dont u just recomend a bob long to him ffs ------------- <giant sig = bad> BACK TO THE USSR |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 9:26pm
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Because I felt like recommending something relatively new in the market, just like the Mini is. I'm sure he knows all about the greatness of Timmys.
But I'm tired of trying to think through Tallens online persona...so Tallen tell us what you think with all these replies. |
Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 9:29pm
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May I be so [evil?] kind as to suggest a Freestyle? Yes, they can be hard to tech. However, they're light, fast, accurate, and you can find heavily upgrade ones from $200 up to $650.
My suggestion would be a used FS-7, you could probably get one on PbN for about $400-$450, with some upgrades. They're super smooth, and ICD gives awesome tech support. |
Posted By: $400 98custom
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 9:30pm
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maybe a proto matrix would suit him ------------- <giant sig = bad> BACK TO THE USSR |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 9:31pm
| Why I haven't seen an ICD suggestion post in a long time (except for Promaster). I almost forgot they even existed. |
Posted By: killerhalo
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 10:07pm
| why must people tell me what is the best stater gun i hve used just about all stater guns from 04 and up the ion sucks pms and dms are good i am looking for a high end to keep up with those that i play with and i have an idea of what i want as i said early i have one 98 and dont want anther one my next tippy will be the a5e if any thing |
Posted By: killerhalo
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 10:10pm
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also i dont like angles they are annoying with there air systems some times i am gettin an invert mini the black one and a halo v35 or what ever it is and a black freak barrle
and when a bored comes out for it i will have that to |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 10:12pm
| Periods and commas. God's gift to writing and to those that read it. |
Posted By: killerhalo
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 10:16pm
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i am srry for you
i dont realy care all that much online but writing reports and other stuff i do use proper grahmer and stuff like that so yea ill probly get bnned for flameing or somethin like that but hey i dont care its the internet not my life |
Posted By: Langside
Date Posted: 14 February 2007 at 3:10am
| Ego 05 I used one the other day and they are nice. I saw one go for £500 new with a reloader and 1.1 bottle. So they are quite cheap. |
Posted By: killerhalo
Date Posted: 14 February 2007 at 6:22am
| i dont know the exchange rate or the converson for scotland to the u.s. |
Posted By: Commander_Cool
Date Posted: 14 February 2007 at 10:17am
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...they are part of the United Kingdom.....part of Great Britian for centuries persay....they use the British pound....so its the conversion rate of the BRITISH pound to the US dollar... moron. If you aren't going to take the time to write things coherently so people can help you, or bother look up the exchange rate, but have the time to post, you are lazy as well as an embicile, as a result noone should help you. ------------- 2005 Freestyle Naughty Dawg Freestyle Angel LCD SP-8 Tippmann 98 Custom |
Posted By: $400 98custom
Date Posted: 14 February 2007 at 10:20am
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owned ------------- <giant sig = bad> BACK TO THE USSR |
Posted By: Black_Shadow
Date Posted: 14 February 2007 at 12:51pm
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first of all, 500 pounds is roughly 800+ dollars US, so thats not that cheap... you can get a good ion or autococker for roughly 300 to 400 bucks you just need to know where to look
------------- 98CP ACT R/T J&J Ceramic 14" Egg II w Z-Board GTA Inline X-Chamber NCStar Red-Dot Pen Spring Mod Trigger Stops Polished Internals Dye Sticky Grip 20oz Co2 w On/Off Next Up: Spimmy |
Posted By: $400 98custom
Date Posted: 14 February 2007 at 1:41pm
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yup. but i am prolly sounding conservative, but id much rather go with a cheap tippmann then buy a super 'cocker. but thats just me. in the end, its up to the dude that started this thread what gun he buys ------------- <giant sig = bad> BACK TO THE USSR |
Posted By: killerhalo
Date Posted: 14 February 2007 at 5:29pm
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Posted By: killerhalo
Date Posted: 14 February 2007 at 5:31pm
| well maybe if you read the frist post that i wrote i dont want ions they suck every one i have used has died and had to be sent to sp to get fixed |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 14 February 2007 at 6:18pm
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Wow, this degraded into a flame war...
Jersey, I'm not the one looking for the marker, Killer Halo is. I just got into the discussion about the mini. I'm not a fan of them, regs are big-time important to me when it comes to the function of a high-end marker. But thanks none the less for trying to help! $400 98custom, seriously my friend, I'd reconsider your sig (the value on many of those items has dropped anyway) and the stance you take. Who cares if someone doesn't agree with your suggestion. Unless you are making an obvious false statement, none of us that have been here for some time will slam you. We may suggest that you yourself look into certain types of markers more than you have now, but there's no need to start a pointless flame war. That said, "buy a '98" is the most often seen line on this forum, in many cases, it is a good choice. But when it comes to speedball and the tournament end of paintball, a '98 simply won't hold up to the competition without some serious work and a lot of cash. For what it takes to find a working e-bolt, board, LPK, regulator, barrel, hopper, rail or drop, etc. You can get the full package in a DM/PM E-Tek, Angel, etc. To whit, I'm currently in the process of re-fitting an e-bolt to a matrix board just to get it up and running. The "broken" e-bolt ran my friend $70 alone. So, do some research. I picked up my DMLCD with Freeflow "Anderson" board, Reloader II, Evil 2pc, CP reg, Phat Drop, and CP snatch grip for $187 shipped. Can't get a '98 with ANYTHING decent on it for that... EDIT_____________ BTW, Commander Cool, the current exchange rate is somewhere around $1.99/GBP, so double the price. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: TippmannsRkool9
Date Posted: 14 February 2007 at 8:04pm
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Get the JT Protium or Quadra off action village, its only like $120 for the Protium and it is a good starter speedball marker. ------------- Tippmanns are cool like Dye's are expensive, and JT Protiums are great markers too! |
Posted By: killerhalo
Date Posted: 14 February 2007 at 8:05pm
| ^^^^^ read all post befor you post i said i am gettin an invert mini |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 14 February 2007 at 8:28pm
| Wow. I'm sorry. I spaced. I actually thought the second page was a completely different thread and thought that Tallen was the thread starter. Sorry for the confusion I caused some, I was a little confused myself. |
Posted By: killerhalo
Date Posted: 14 February 2007 at 8:56pm
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its cool but try to pay attion next time
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Posted By: Commander_Cool
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 12:50am
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err... I didn't state the a price, I just said you had to look up the exchange rate between pounds and dollars to find out the cost of the marker in USD. It has no bearing on myself, nor the information I stated. ------------- 2005 Freestyle Naughty Dawg Freestyle Angel LCD SP-8 Tippmann 98 Custom |
Posted By: Commander_Cool
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 1:00am
i believe you mean "you are an ass, get over yourself" OR "you're an ass , get over yourself"....not the poorly written gibberish you wrote...awesome comeback... I am sure your parents are so proud that you are such an intelligent, inquisitive youth, I am sure in no way, shape, or form do they regret your birth, because well, exhausting resources on because you are such a great gift to society. Can someone say "Sir would you like fries with that?"
Now my point: Why should people help you if you write so poorly that it is difficult to understand what you are trying to say. If you can't take the time to clearly state what you are trying to say, people should not take the time to respond. Of course people do not write using all the elements that they would in a medium other than an internet forum. Yet they still are able to articulate themselves in a manner that is understood, and then when they aren't understood they apologize and reword what they had stated. They do not say "yo man lay off, imz is on the internet, I speak properly elsewhere", as if they are doing a poor Ali-G impersonation. I'm not full of myself, I just hate stupidity, stupid people are the bane of my existance, and well you sir are incredibly stupid.
------------- 2005 Freestyle Naughty Dawg Freestyle Angel LCD SP-8 Tippmann 98 Custom |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 1:56am
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I dunno. I'm with Cool on this one. This is a FORUM. You have all the time in the world to make your post look decent before you post it. At least put effort into it. I literally look at a thread and can tell the type of person posting based off of the effort in his post. Besides, making it easy for people to help you by being at least partially literate (you don't need to worry so much about capitalizing, just punctuation and attempts at spelling) is a courtesey. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 12:37pm
Hup! You're right, sorry, It was black-somethingorother that stated the price! My bad! ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Black_Shadow
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 2:24pm
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Yes, and i was off by a 20% margin... Yes, alast, i am wrong... but with a conversion rate of 1.99 then you are looking at $1000 US either way... still, you can do so much better for $1000 bucks... so a little math if we will all sit still for a moment and not flame each other into stupidity... 500 Pounds = $1000 US $500 US = sick E-speedball gun from Ebay $500 US < $1000 US Langside = Dumb ------------- 98CP ACT R/T J&J Ceramic 14" Egg II w Z-Board GTA Inline X-Chamber NCStar Red-Dot Pen Spring Mod Trigger Stops Polished Internals Dye Sticky Grip 20oz Co2 w On/Off Next Up: Spimmy |
Posted By: $400 98custom
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 4:00pm
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hey man i was neutral on that whole thing, yd u have to go and drag me into this flame war? ------------- <giant sig = bad> BACK TO THE USSR |
Posted By: Black_Shadow
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 6:22pm
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Sorry man, right equation, wrong number type thingy.... its been fixed now tho... sorry ------------- 98CP ACT R/T J&J Ceramic 14" Egg II w Z-Board GTA Inline X-Chamber NCStar Red-Dot Pen Spring Mod Trigger Stops Polished Internals Dye Sticky Grip 20oz Co2 w On/Off Next Up: Spimmy |
Posted By: killerhalo
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 9:50pm
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wow i didnt realize people go around corecting someboady that doesnt have all day to wirte a post i have a life its not at my desk and i do what i darn well pealse that means how i type so get over it
sorry mods plz close this i know see how pointless it is to post anything one here any more |
Posted By: Langside
Date Posted: 16 February 2007 at 3:40am
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Price minus Hopper - £80 Pricer minus air bottle £170 (weights 750g) plus it was NEW. so a new 05 ego - £270 - $540 Yes I am dumb. |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 16 February 2007 at 8:34pm
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It takes maybe 1.2 min. to think about what you type. That must take SO much time out of your day...
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Posted By: Commander_Cool
Date Posted: 17 February 2007 at 1:06am
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wow kid, you used so many incorrect words, mispellings, or combinations of letters that can't possibly represent a word in the English language... How do you "post anything one here anymore"? Do you mean "it is pointless to post anything on here anymore"? Why don't you just type in whatever language you might be fluent in, since it obviously is not english. ...moron ------------- 2005 Freestyle Naughty Dawg Freestyle Angel LCD SP-8 Tippmann 98 Custom |
Posted By: killerhalo
Date Posted: 18 February 2007 at 4:32pm
| i have said it alot befor i realy dont care and one thing never call me a kid again i am 16 and just dont care about spelling |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 18 February 2007 at 4:36pm
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Then we don't care about helping you, kid. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 18 February 2007 at 5:13pm
| wuts dis heer than |
Posted By: killerhalo
Date Posted: 18 February 2007 at 5:35pm
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w\e **edited**s
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 18 February 2007 at 5:38pm
| You forgot the "e." |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 18 February 2007 at 5:51pm
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Bye! ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Commander_Cool
Date Posted: 20 February 2007 at 11:09am
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Kid, you're 16 years old, and not a very bright 16 year old at that, you are a kid, and are simply going to have to live with the fact that you are a kid. ------------- 2005 Freestyle Naughty Dawg Freestyle Angel LCD SP-8 Tippmann 98 Custom |
Posted By: Langside
Date Posted: 20 February 2007 at 1:56pm
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EVERYBODY HIT THE DECK ITS ANOTHER RAID!
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