Spuder or VL 2
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Forum Name: Which Gun is Best
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Topic: Spuder or VL 2
Posted By: TippmannsRkool9
Subject: Spuder or VL 2
Date Posted: 15 February 2007 at 11:34pm
sorry about not letting you guys reply, please give me your feedback at this topic area.
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 16 February 2007 at 1:38am
Alrighty, here's the reply:
The VL markers are pretty much the bottom of the barrel when it comes to quality these days. K2 sports has pretty much relegated them to Brass Eagle status, mainly due to the fact that they needed a new name to throw into the ring when sales were affected by exploding markers and poor over-all quality. Since then, K2 has decided to merge BE, VL, and JT together under the name JT Sports, so it will be a bit tougher to distinguish quality by name alone. Regardless of the business ethics and everything else, the VL equipment that K2 has been putting out has pretty much been low-end crap. Not something that will handle the abuse that will be brought down on it by inexperienced players. The spider sonix will fare better (but still isn't the best idea for a loaer/beater). My suggestion is to look over on MCB or on E-Bay for a used stock '98 or something like a pro-lite or .68 carbine that will take everything that can be thrown at it. That said, between the two choices above, I choose Spyder. While the Kingman vs Tippmann debate is age-old and this is the tippmann forum, Kingman makes an alright product. It's just that most of your Sheridan derivatives, it doesn't like it when the cup-seal gets cold or dirty, and they often do.
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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 16 February 2007 at 8:33am
I voted for the Viewloader, simply because it is cheap. You really would be doing yourself and freinds a favor by picking up a used 98 or 98c off of Ebay, MCB, or PBN. It will last much longer than either of the guns you listed would brand new.
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Posted By: TippmannsRkool9
Date Posted: 16 February 2007 at 3:39pm
Yeah, but you see, I don't want them to have a good gun, HA HA HA! But really, any 98c I could get would be out of the price range for me and that really isn't what I'm looking for. And by the way Tallen, I understand that VL, K2, and JT merged, I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with these markers. I currently have a JT Protium and it works perfectly, I have ran about 6000 shots through it since christmas and I say that a $400 dollar gun isn't crap. I do however know that the VL is made of plastic because I see it a lot down at Wal-mart, that is why I am asking if it will hold up to basically any abuse at all.
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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 16 February 2007 at 3:44pm
You can find many used Tippmann 98cs for $50 or so.
------------- Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good.
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Posted By: TippmannsRkool9
Date Posted: 16 February 2007 at 5:04pm
Really, Where, I can't order offline because I don't want to fall victim of false advertising, Down at the local pro shop, they sell their old field 98c's like friggen hot cakes, and I can never find one.
------------- Tippmanns are cool like Dye's are expensive, and JT Protiums are great markers too!
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 16 February 2007 at 6:16pm
Seriously, if you go through e-bay, they have fraud protection, also places like the Buy-Sell-Trade forums over at http://www.mcarterbrown.com tend to be on the up-and-up. Also, anyone who sells on there usually has a feedback page to let you know that they're legit. Also, if you set up a pay-pal acct. They will protect you from online fraud as well. Most deals are done through pay-pal anyway, and as a buyer, it's free for you to use! I just picked up a Nelspot-007 from MCB and had no issues what-so-ever. I picked up a DM-LCD from E-Bay for $187.00 as well with no problems at all. I'm telling you man, it's the only way to go!
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