Shot a Mini today
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Topic: Shot a Mini today
Posted By: ekeboo
Subject: Shot a Mini today
Date Posted: 04 March 2007 at 10:41pm
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So i got to shoot a Mini today. and i must say it is an impressive little package yes and i mean little. It operates at 200 Psi, and shoots quick out of the case. wonder if it will be durable in the long run.. Anybody else shot this little guy?
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 05 March 2007 at 1:17am
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Yeah. Too small for me. |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 05 March 2007 at 1:47am
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If those adds in APG are anywhere near actual size (and comparing frames, they are), I'd lose that thing in my pocket. But darned if I don't want one... ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: Black_Shadow
Date Posted: 05 March 2007 at 7:31am
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itty bitty mini maggy awesome gun, if i ever make a return to speedball or have some spare time im going to try and fine a used one and rebuild it... ------------- 98CP ACT R/T J&J Ceramic 14" Egg II w Z-Board GTA Inline X-Chamber NCStar Red-Dot Pen Spring Mod Trigger Stops Polished Internals Dye Sticky Grip 20oz Co2 w On/Off Next Up: Spimmy |
Posted By: 3442
Date Posted: 05 March 2007 at 5:41pm
im pretty sure they are, if seen comparisions to the mini in real and in the magazine and its the same. Frank ------------- Frank |
DeTrevni wrote:Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 05 March 2007 at 7:52pm
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Very nice. Awfully small, but very sturdy and easily compactible. ------------- Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good. |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 05 March 2007 at 8:33pm
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Mini's suck - Bad Boards Solenoid Issues Leaks "Phantom" Problems that nobody really knows the answer too If you even remotely consider a Mini, wait a LONG time before you buy one; all of the ones currently out are HIGHLY subject to issues (also, why do you think the folks with pre-orders still haven't got theirs on a majority, Mini is keeping them so they can fix their crap). And atop of all that, rumor has it that Mini/National is in court regarding the production of Mini's as they seem to be under some type of copyright infringement. At LEAST half of the ones we've sold at the store have come back with board/noid issues... ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 05 March 2007 at 8:41pm
| Invert (Mini) is a subsidiary of Empire, which is under the umbrella of NPS. So unless they are suing thier own companies, you are thinking of the NPS vs. Draxxus thing over the Pulse. |
Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 05 March 2007 at 8:46pm
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Once I see a few minis out at a field doing well without problems. I will be picking one up if I am not worrying about paying for a car at the time. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 06 March 2007 at 6:10pm
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Shot it, hated it.
Even fully loaded for bear, it is so light that when you start laying a rope, you're bouncing almost everywhere due to the fact that it's a blow-forward coupled with a reset-spring (think like a mag). The lack of an LPR means that like the PMR, the blow-forward on the bolt operates at the same 200psi that the marker operates at. While this doesn't seem like such a big issue, it means that if, for some reason, you have a ball half-dropped into the chamber IT WILL CHOP! Now, not only is chopping a pain in the butt on the field, but the tolerance between the bolt and the body is so tight that you are almost guaranteed to wedge the bolt on shell. If you were to do so in a game, or god forbid a tournament, you'd be forced to do one of two things, either try to force the bolt back into the reset position with your straight-shot or battle swab, or not use your marker. Not only would it put you out of the game, but it takes a bit of time to remove the bolt from the marker. All told, we had to go at it for 6 minutes to pull it out as you have to take the grip off, and screw around with everything just to pull the bolt. The eyes are also milled into the body which makes them a pain to clean and remove/replace. Also, pay close attention to the warning sticker on the feedneck, some newb tech at Pev's almost lost his finger when fiddling with the marker the other day, as it is, he only crushed his finger from the second knuckle down. I definitely don't like the fact that all of the air lines are internalized and milled into the body. If you were to get some sort of an obstruction in one of the airways, you'd never be able to clean that sucker out. While air-way obstructions aren't common, they still happen. In 4 years of tech work, I've had 10 separate cases of obstructions affecting a marker. This also means that you can only use their reg/asa that MUST stay in a fixed location. So no rail, no drop, and no variable-output tanks for the mini user. Couple that with the fact that they've flat out refused to disclose the air-flow system of the marker for the time being and you've got an airsmith's nightmare on your hands. There are just too many things that can go wrong with this marker, and each issue takes a long time to fix due to the fact that everything is fit together like a jigsaw puzzle. Add in the price tag around $400 at most pro shops and I wonder why anyone wouldn't just go out and put the money on an Ion, PMR, Epiphany, or other tried and true marker for less. Also, the reason that pro-shops around the nation(s) are just getting these in is due to the fact that there were some very serious board and mechanical malfunctions in the early run that had to be fixed. We're talking 50% failure rate from one source. If a little kid or midget asked me if it was a good marker for them.... sure. But putting weight and size at a premium means (for now) that everything else you want in a marker comes second. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 06 March 2007 at 6:13pm
It's basically a rip-off of the AGD blow-forward design, I wouldn't be surprised to see Tom Kaye involved in the court proceedings. Oh, and sorry for two consecutive posts... ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 06 March 2007 at 6:47pm
Aye, I didn't mean Invert vs. NPS. I just heard rumors of some court proceedings, and didn't know who they were being conducted with. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 06 March 2007 at 7:21pm
| i've seen a few at the last tourny i went and watched.... looked neat... but with all these issues, i wouldn't be getting one any time soon. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 06 March 2007 at 8:13pm
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Seriously, for the price and the issues that appear to be inherent in the system, you can do much better. Heck, a Lasoya Promaster from ICD will only run you $199 right now. Sure, ICD's have their fair share of maintenance woes, but at least you can work on them. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: ekeboo
Date Posted: 06 March 2007 at 10:48pm
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True i have been hearing these issues. My main marker right now is a Mag and i love it. I just thought of the Mini as a smaller electronic one. Ill wait on buying one but heres a funny thing. The local shop were i work at just got two of these things. Serial numbers #00050 and # 00295 -------------
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Posted By: MoNkeY Hunter
Date Posted: 07 March 2007 at 9:31pm
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Man..... I don't think i'll be getting one of those anytime soon. At first they looked realy realy realy cool. But I guess some things are to good to be true. |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 07 March 2007 at 10:03pm
Every innovation has it's bumps to get over in the beginning. This is the first real "Birth" of a new gun in years... I mean, when you compare the hiccups in the path to Dye needing two or three RUNS of matrixes each year before all the problems are fixed, a brand new company hitting some obstacles isn't so bad. Give them time, Mini's are going to be a great leap in the future. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 07 March 2007 at 10:22pm
Assuming they dont fizzle out before they get to the good stuff. |
Posted By: mamasboi
Date Posted: 07 March 2007 at 11:56pm
| sorry cant help i really only have held the ones that i own |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 08 March 2007 at 11:14am
They won't they're backed by two of the biggest companies in paintball. It'd be like DYE or Tippmann fizzling out. The companies employ very good mechanical and fluid-dynamics engineers who know that there are going to be bumps in the road. Heck, AGD's been through more bumps than this and they're still alive and kicking. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: ekeboo
Date Posted: 08 March 2007 at 11:42pm
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Ya but Airgun is not near what they used to be. Which i find unbelievable considering all the sweet ULE stuff and the X-valve.
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 09 March 2007 at 11:21am
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They've seemed to be making a bit of a resurgence lately. The issue is that Tom won't switch to less expensive manufacturing procedures to lighten the cost on the purchaser's wallet.
That said, I was watching "PUSH" on my 47" last night. I'd never watched it on a screen that big. It simply blew me away to see mechanical markers as the majority in tournament play. That documentary is a 'cocker lover's wet dream. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 09 March 2007 at 1:58pm
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Posted By: MoNkeY Hunter
Date Posted: 09 March 2007 at 9:19pm
^ HEHEHE
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Posted By: ekeboo
Date Posted: 09 March 2007 at 11:27pm
I need this video! -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 10 March 2007 at 11:41am
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZlJzZc9zCo - Enjoy the Preview ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Black_Shadow
Date Posted: 10 March 2007 at 12:33pm
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*has orgasm* ------------- 98CP ACT R/T J&J Ceramic 14" Egg II w Z-Board GTA Inline X-Chamber NCStar Red-Dot Pen Spring Mod Trigger Stops Polished Internals Dye Sticky Grip 20oz Co2 w On/Off Next Up: Spimmy |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 10 March 2007 at 12:52pm
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http://www.monkey-with-a-gun.com/ - MWaG
Click on the "Sunday Drivers" one and listen to Mattie Marshall's monologue, it's a good one. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Cyberdemon
Date Posted: 11 March 2007 at 9:28pm
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many times he just wont die... ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
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Posted By: ekeboo
Date Posted: 11 March 2007 at 10:40pm
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Just watched the push video. Thats some insane stuff. Ohh and cyber demon i started cracking up when i read your post
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