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Topic: Laws Suck
Posted By: Tolgak
Subject: Laws Suck
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 3:01pm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070314/ap_on_he_me/medical_marijuana - This woman will probably die as a result of this case .
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 3:02pm
Thats messed up.
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 3:03pm
how does pot keep you alive? i can see using it for pain relief, but i had no idea it keeps people alive. either way, that sucks and is pretty rediculous.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 3:04pm
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Uh, duh, she's just a junkie guys. Dont feel bad for her, the laws are there to protect her. Sure, pot today, what's it going to be tommorow, heroin? Yeah, lets see a doctor buy that one....my heroin habit is the only thing keeping me alive. Everyone knows pot kills.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 3:09pm
Dye Playa wrote:
how does pot keep you alive? i can see using it for pain relief, but i had no idea it keeps people alive. either way, that sucks and is pretty rediculous. |
Didn't bother to read the article, did you?
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 3:37pm
I'm guessing he didn't....
Anyway, that's on a whole different level of screwed up...
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 3:38pm
Brain tumor? Scoliosis?
Yeah, she is better off just kicking the bucket anyway.
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Posted By: whack-a-mole
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 4:17pm

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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 4:34pm
As far as I know, Scoiliosis doesn't cause pain. Just irritation when sleeping in the brace to prevent further curvature.
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Posted By: FROG MAN
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 4:47pm
if she has no appetite, then pot could keep her alive in that way.
and i didnt know some one could get physicaly addicted to marijuana, (gotta do some research, sigh)
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 5:02pm
Tae Kwon Do wrote:
Brain tumor? Scoliosis? Yeah, she is better off just kicking the bucket anyway.
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She could still have a career in porn.
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Posted By: tecumseh
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 6:31pm
for her brain tumor, the best tonic is chronic
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 6:38pm
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While I agree that this court ruling is bogus-I disagree with the main post. She can still get it pretty easily if she doesn't go to prison-I'd be willing to wager she won't die.
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 6:51pm
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As for a medicinal marijuana in general, if it's legal in the state, how in the hell are the feds going to justify intervening if they cant prove it relates to interstate matters? I cant think of how often your average pothead gets busted for growing his own by the FBI.
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 7:13pm
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She is not going to die from not having the pot. She is going to die because of a brain tumor. The pot isnt curing her tumor.
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 7:14pm
rednekk98 wrote:
As for a medicinal marijuana in general, if it's legal in the state, how in the hell are the feds going to justify intervening if they cant prove it relates to interstate matters? I cant think of how often your average pothead gets busted for growing his own by the FBI. | Federal law says it is illegal. State law says it is legal. Federal law wins.
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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 7:38pm
Da Hui wrote:
As far as I know, Scoiliosis doesn't cause pain. Just irritation when sleeping in the brace to prevent further curvature. |
Back in school when they do scioliosis testing, they always said I have it even though I dont. The problem is my left leg is about half an inch longer than my right.
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 7:53pm
Hades wrote:
rednekk98 wrote:
As for a medicinal marijuana in general, if it's legal in the state, how in the hell are the feds going to justify intervening if they cant prove it relates to interstate matters? I cant think of how often your average pothead gets busted for growing his own by the FBI. | Federal law says it is illegal. State law says it is legal. Federal law wins. |
All together now, Supremacy Clause.
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Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 8:24pm
Tae Kwon Do wrote:
Hades wrote:
rednekk98 wrote:
As for a medicinal marijuana in general, if it's legal in the state, how in the hell are the feds going to justify intervening if they cant prove it relates to interstate matters? I cant think of how often your average pothead gets busted for growing his own by the FBI. | Federal law says it is illegal. State law says it is legal. Federal law wins. | All together now, Supremacy Clause. | You gotta (have a)love(/hate relationship with it).
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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 8:49pm
"Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself." -- Jimmy Carter
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Posted By: Razgriz Ghost
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 9:08pm
Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 10:48pm
My mom could greatly benifit from the use of medicinal marijuana too, her panel of doctors admitted it.
Not legal here though.
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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 11:17pm
*Stealth* wrote:
My mom could greatly benifit from the use of medicinal marijuana too, her panel of doctors admitted it.
Not legal here though.
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Couldn't she go to another state, get another doctor to prescribe it and bring it back home under the Full Faith and Credit Clause?
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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 11:20pm
Hysteria wrote:
*Stealth* wrote:
My mom could greatly benifit from the use of medicinal marijuana too, her panel of doctors admitted it.
Not legal here though.
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Couldn't she go to another state, get another doctor to prescribe it and bring it back home under the Full Faith and Credit Clause?
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I don't know if that was investigated or not, She has her own pain panel in UVM (Consisting of 24 docs) than she has another 5 at clevland clinic, and another three up in northern michigan. I think due to the amount of doctors involved they dont want to go with dodgy legal practices. They are managing to keep her in shape through improvised practices, she is currently scheduled for brain surgery at the end of the month.
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Posted By: Belt #2
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 11:59pm
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Hysteria wrote:
*Stealth* wrote:
My mom could greatly benifit from the use of medicinal marijuana too, her panel of doctors admitted it.
Not legal here though.
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Couldn't she go to another state, get another doctor to prescribe it and bring it back home under the Full Faith and Credit Clause?
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Are you really that dumb?
It was stated above:
Pot = class 1 drug under federal laws
state laws state it as legal for medical purposes
federal always wins, until the ACLU gets involved, then socialism followed by anacrchy do
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 15 March 2007 at 12:04am
I really do find all of you idiots that hate the ACLU to be extremely retarded....or at least drastically uninformed....
Anyway, yeah, Supremacy Clause. Write your Congressman.
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Posted By: Belt #2
Date Posted: 15 March 2007 at 12:07am
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I find many of the issues the ACLU backs to be frivolous, at best, treasonist, at worse.
If I'm not mistaken, are not the ACLU along with NAMBLA and Ruth Baider-Ginsberg the main backers of dropping the age of sexual consent to 12?
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Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 15 March 2007 at 12:08am
Belt #2 wrote:
federal always wins, until the ACLU gets involved, then socialism followed by anacrchy do |
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 15 March 2007 at 1:14am
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 15 March 2007 at 12:28pm
Belt #2 wrote:
I find many of the issues the ACLU backs to be frivolous, at best, treasonist, at worse.
If I'm not mistaken, are not the ACLU along with NAMBLA and Ruth Baider-Ginsberg the main backers of dropping the age of sexual consent to 12? |
And what is wrong with that? I do not necessarily agree with it but why should the government be making laws telling people what they should or should not be doing to with their bodies? As long as the activity is consensual who care what people do with their bodies. Why should an arbitrary number be used to say when a person is ready or not to have sex, drink alcohol, run away, smoke cigarettes, and any other status offenses?
I am sure there are members of this forum that had sex before the age of 18 and they grew to be good functioning members of society. Several studies have shown a good percentage of the population are having sex before 18 (or their states legal age of consent.), does that mean each and everyone of them should be treated as criminals?
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 15 March 2007 at 1:37pm
Hysteria wrote:
*Stealth* wrote:
My mom could greatly benifit from the use of medicinal marijuana too, her panel of doctors admitted it.
Not legal here though.
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Couldn't she go to another state, get another doctor to prescribe it and bring it back home under the Full Faith and Credit Clause?
| Bringing pot across state lines is definatly going to get the feds involved. The FBI can get involved in kidnapping cases since there is a high probability of it involving several different states. I understand how federal law can trump state laws, but how the federal government can justify intervention if the entire "crime" takes place in one state.
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 15 March 2007 at 1:42pm
Lisa smokes grows and smokes pot in her bedroom of her parents house. Mom and Dad says it is okay. State law enforcement (in state were this would be illegal) comes to house and arrests her for crime.
Same thing but on a smaller scale.
The only thing the California law does for the lady is make it so the state law enforcement agents cant do anything to her but the Federal agents can enforce Federal law against her.
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 15 March 2007 at 5:18pm
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Posted By: Jack Carver
Date Posted: 15 March 2007 at 5:28pm
Hades wrote:
Belt #2 wrote:
I find many of the issues the ACLU backs to be frivolous, at best, treasonist, at worse.
If I'm not mistaken, are not the ACLU along with NAMBLA and Ruth Baider-Ginsberg the main backers of dropping the age of sexual consent to 12? | And what is wrong with that? I do not necessarily agree with it but why should the government be making laws telling people what they should or should not be doing to with their bodies? As long as the activity is consensual who care what people do with their bodies. Why should an arbitrary number be used to say when a person is ready or not to have sex, drink alcohol, run away, smoke cigarettes, and any other status offenses?
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I always figured it was because before a certain age, you don't really have enough common sense to make an important decision like that, which could potentially change your life very quickly. But then again I'm conservative, so I'm biased already...
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 15 March 2007 at 5:34pm
Belt #2 wrote:
I find many of the issues the ACLU backs to be frivolous, at best, treasonist, at worse.
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Now this is just silly. What is so treasonous about any cases the ACLU supports?
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 15 March 2007 at 5:37pm
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You know, civil liberties and stuff.
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Posted By: Destruction
Date Posted: 15 March 2007 at 5:44pm
Jack Carver wrote:
Hades wrote:
Belt #2 wrote:
I find many of the issues the ACLU backs to be frivolous, at best, treasonist, at worse.
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<p align="center">If I'm not mistaken, are not the ACLU along with NAMBLA and Ruth Baider-Ginsberg the main backers of dropping the age of sexual consent to 12? | And what is wrong with that? I do not necessarily agree with it but why should the government be making laws telling people what they should or should not be doing to with their bodies? As long as the activity is consensual who care what people do with their bodies. Why should an arbitrary number be used to say when a person is ready or not to have sex, drink alcohol, run away, smoke cigarettes, and any other status offenses?
| <p style="text-align: left;">I always figured it was because before a certain age, you don't really have enough common sense to make an important decision like that, which could potentially change your life very quickly. But then again I'm conservative, so I'm biased already... |
But why does the law get to decide the age when people "have enough common sense"?
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 15 March 2007 at 5:54pm
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Destruction wrote:
But why does the law get to decide the age when people "have enough common sense"? |
Because letting people decide for themselves when they have common sense is a bit circular?
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 15 March 2007 at 9:55pm
Belt #2 wrote:
I find many of the issues the ACLU backs to be frivolous, at best, treasonist, at worse.
If I'm not mistaken, are not the ACLU along with NAMBLA and Ruth Baider-Ginsberg the main backers of dropping the age of sexual consent to 12? |
Are you seriously that right wing? They are one of the big reasons this nation is as free as it is today....Just look into the history of the cases they tried....While I agree that some of their cases are kind of screwed up, they are a watchdog. They jump at any threat to civil liberties so that they stop all of the real threats....That's their job...
Anyway, I was watching Star Trek: TNG last night and something Piccard said reminded me of this thread: "When law is absolute, there can be no justice"....
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 15 March 2007 at 10:13pm
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.Ryan wrote:
Are you seriously that right wing? |
That's not right wing - that looniebin. The TRUE right stands for less government and greater individual freedom - exactly the kind of thing that the ACLU stands for. While the ACLU does occasionally take a left-of-center position, they are mostly old-school conservatives.
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 15 March 2007 at 10:36pm
True. I was just thinking about the fact that the Bushies out there like to rag on the ACLU a lot, but I forgot that they're not really conservatives....I withdraw that question and replace it with yours....lol...
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