This story is a bit old, but I don't believe it has been posted here, so...

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=2925021&page=1 - http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=2925021&page=1

Apparently Jesus (as in God) returned some time ago, and He lives ourside Houston.

Hence my question for the Christians on the board - have you been by to visit Jesus yet?  When are you going?  I am guessing this means the end of days is near - how are you changing your ways in preparation?

pb125 wrote: Yeah cause, every Christian believes this guy....

I don't see why not?

Read further down - he specifically says that he is Jesus of Nazareth.  Not sure where the antichrist part fits in, but there isn't any devil worship involved here.  Same old some-thy-neighbor stuff as from Jesus first time around.

EDIT - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16840066/site/newsweek/ - This article has more detail on the antichrist bit - apparently it's like the NEW New Covenant.

Idiots...

Anyway, the guy went from preaching, to proclaiming himself the apostle paul, to proclaiming himself the second coming. I guess Jesus has a case of indecision?

However, tis the season. Hispanic people (no racist offense, but it's true) around here are very religiously superstitious, which translates to people like this man to $$$.

Namely because 80% of the hispanic people from around here have deep roots in Catholocism, a religion where you follow the institution of the church closer than the religion itself. I knew of a man, for instance, who died, and his family was told at time of funeral that the priest would need monthly installments totalling up to several thousands of dollars to pray the man into heaven. And idealogy like that is common around here.

Obviously everything this man says and does is complete blasphemy to the Bible itself-if they actually read their Bibles.

stratoaxe wrote: Idiots... Anyway, the guy went from preaching, to proclaiming himself the apostle paul, to proclaiming himself the second coming. I guess Jesus has a case of indecision?

First time around it took him until his 30s to figure it out.  Is this really that different?

Hispanic people (no racist offense, but it's true) around here are very religiously superstitious...

I don't think ANY American is in a position to mock anybody else for being "religiously superstitious" - Americans invented the modern televangelist.  Fellow on TV says "give me $20 million or God will kill me", and he hits the mark.  Go figure. 

Obviously everything this man says and does is complete blasphemy to the Bible itself-if they actually read their Bibles.

That doesn't make any sense.  How can Jesus blaspheme?  He is God.

But Jesus was called a blasphemer the first time around too (and killed for it), because he was blaspheming against what we now call the "Old Testament".  It is clear that this time around Jesus is starting another new covenant - isn't it almost necessary that He has to "blaspheme" against the no-longer-New-Testament?  Isn't that what He does?

Darur wrote: Also, Clark, Jesus was not God, he was his son.

Well...  The Trinity is a complicated mess.  To avoid turning this into a trinity theology thread, I would posit that we are both saying the same thing.

:)

Tae Kwon Do wrote: Nay. Clearly Jesus only shows himself on breakfast foods. So saith Pancake Jesus.

Dog Jesus and Shower Jesus beg to differ:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_pareidolia#Jesus_Christ - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_pareidolia#Jesus_Chri st

My conclusion:  Christians don't actually like Jesus.

Every time somebody declares himself Jesus returned, the non-Christians of the world respond with a giant "what's on TV?" - But Christians go nuts with anger and indignation, invariably declaring Jesus a sinner and a fraud, and probably a tool of Satan.

Shouldn't the churches of the world at least check?  Doesn't this approach pretty much guarantee that Christians will miss the boat when Jesus DOES reappear?

What are y'all waiting for?  Choirs of angels, trumpets, and parted skies?  That was what the old Jews were waiting for, and see where that got THEM!  Jesus came in riding a donkey and tore down the temple.  Didn't any of you read the Gospels?  Didn't any of you learn anything from them?

Christianity is a religion built entirely on the "gotcha" of Jesus Christ - what makes you think He isn't going to try the same thing again?  Don't you think that His reappearance will be a test, or do you think that you are somehow special and He will give you special advance notice?

But, given the consistent negative reaction to announcements of Jesus, I can only conclude that Christians don't really want Him to return.  Christians love the IDEA of Jesus - witness how excited people get about Jesus on toast or in a tree - but the ACTUAL Jesus is too frightening to contemplate.

I'm pretty sure that when he comes I'll know, I don't believe that he'll claim himself as jesus I'll just see him, we'll all just see him and know, it's time. Don't ask me how I would know I just believe I would. This seems to be a media stunt from a bored little man that has nothing better to do.

Gatyr wrote: This thread is proof of why even if Jesus comes back, no one will believe him, and we are all doomed to a blasphemous life. I'm sure as hell(LOLZ) he is either born or already dead. Again.

Not really dude...that's just proof of the common misconception about the Bible's teachings on the second coming.

The Bible never teaches that Christ will come again in human form-he comes again for the rapture of the church. Never sets foot on earth.

Sooooooooooo...Clearly people have religion issues....Jesus is coming back, but not to wander around and goof around with people and give them tatoos...He's coming to grab up His people and go, He ain't stick around to get more people...That's where the tribulation comes into play the 7 years of crap, and the anti-christ ruling

So, this is guy is clearly very wrong in what he's teaching and the people who are following him are the usual lost people who don't know what they want and are easily mesmerized by shiny lights and a good story...

I would respond to Shub's serious post, but I think Da Hui has forever changed the DNA of this thread, and I cannot possibly compete with that.

:)

Clark Kent wrote: stratoaxe wrote: Idiots... Anyway, the guy went from preaching, to proclaiming himself the apostle paul, to proclaiming himself the second coming. I guess Jesus has a case of indecision? First time around it took him until his 30s to figure it out.  Is this really that different? Hispanic people (no racist offense, but it's true) around here are very religiously superstitious... I don't think ANY American is in a position to mock anybody else for being "religiously superstitious" - Americans invented the modern televangelist.  Fellow on TV says "give me $20 million or God will kill me", and he hits the mark.  Go figure.  Obviously everything this man says and does is complete blasphemy to the Bible itself-if they actually read their Bibles. That doesn't make any sense.  How can Jesus blaspheme?  He is God. But Jesus was called a blasphemer the first time around too (and killed for it), because he was blaspheming against what we now call the "Old Testament".  It is clear that this time around Jesus is starting another new covenant - isn't it almost necessary that He has to "blaspheme" against the no-longer-New-Testament?  Isn't that what He does?

Sorry, I missed this post somehow when I read through.

Jesus knew he was the Christ from birth-when he was in the temple as a small boy his mother asked him why he left her to go the the temple-his response was that he was about his Father's buisness. He taught doctrine at a very young age-he wasn't Annointed until around the age of 30.

And Jesus did not do away with the old covenant-he fulfilled the missing part (i.e. the Messiah's coming).