a) thats not example, its you repeating yourself,... we all clearly understand what you are saying we are just telling you it does not happen (except for angel 1 owners being allowed to get the new bolt). Companies don't just upgrade parts and give them to the gun's owners. Companies upgrade parts and either make a new gun for people to buy, or sell the new components, thats how companies make money. Besides your non-example sucks, and doesnt make any sense

what does "company recently added on to the same product that you have, but didn't got because you bought the gun at an earlier date." mean???

I assume you mean you have a gun, then the company upgrades it (aka, a new model), and you want to know if you lose out on the upgrades version? Of course you lose out!! That comment is so insanely STUPID I wont even respond further on it. What sort of company comes out with new models and accesories and then gives them to the previous owners for free!?!?!?!

just because people dont spend money for loads of guns doesn't mean people should treat them like dumbasses. as in yeah, you can make assumptions to go about saying they are probably new to the game, but saying things like this is just what you may call flaming -

"Are you on crack? None of your responses have made any sense."
which was in response to -

I am not attacking you b/c you "dont spend loads on guns, I am attacking you b/c from your posts i can tell you are very near to being brain dead. Never once did I mention the inferiority of a product, or attack someone as a result of that in this thread. In addition you are asking about buying an expensive high end marker. That comment made no sense, like everything else you say.

"ok some of the companies supply you with lifetime warranty and free upgrades, will i get those benefits if i go buy the guns used?"
I don't see any major grammatical mistakes except maybe i could have capitalized or used a conjunction such as 'upgrades, but will i get those', but i was mostly using a mix of talking irl with text ;)

My comment was not made in relation to your punctuation or wording. It has to do with you comments being so ridiculous and offbase that they simply don't make sense (example: grass is blue, sky is green).

what i'm basically summarizing here is that i would rather not turn this topic to a topic of pointless arguments, but to keep it constructive.

All of your posts have been pointless after the first 2 or 3, just listen to what people tell you, and stop trying to explain your desires through innacurate or misinformed information. If you have a valid point, make one. "Saying I want a DM7, but I want to run it on CO2, and if i buy it used will the company still upgrade it for me", does not constitute a valid comment, since everything you said was wrong and stupid.

commander, they may have HP, i just never got around to ask them so that is the reason - pardon my ignorance. i know people have given me packages for me to think about, which i am deeply thankful of for their time and patience, but not a lot of them suit me, since i wanted a medium-high end marker that is $700-800 just by itself, I'll focus on upgrades/tank/hopper later. sorry if i forgot to mention that little part lol

You can't run a high end gun off of CO2, they operate off of Low pressure air, if you dont use a compressed air system, you will blow the solenoid, and damage all of your internals. Best guns you can run off of CO2 is an autococker, or w/ an antisiphon cO2 tank, an ion. If you listened to one anyone for one moment you would know this. Since you obviously don't know anything about paintball markers or air systems, I suggest you get a Tippmann or some other idiot proof entry level marker.

You can't, you need a compressed air tank to use the marker, plus DM7's are more than 800 dollars.

1) I am not as daft as you seem to be, in regards to this matter. As a business student I can tell you that there are times when thinking outside the box is reasonable, but there are also the confines of reality that must be dealt with. Just because you, a struggling highschool student feels that a company could offer upgrades, does not mean that they do, they will, or it is a good business decision. Might a company do that? Anything is possible. However, you stated manufacturers distributing upgrades as if it is a fact. If you want to sound intelligent, or get answers that aid in real life decisions, it is best to be working with facts, not your imagination.

2) Unlike the accusation in the 1st response to my post you made where I apparently commented on your written statement not making sense due to the way it was constructed, in this case I clearly was. The highlighted statement is so poorly worded that it loses all meaning. As stated I understand what you MEANT, but you did not say it in a coherent manner.

hmm, calling me braindead and saying your not attacking me because of me not buying any guns is retarded mind you.

No I didn't call you brain dead, I said you were pretty close to brain dead. This is apparent to your response, that reads as one long paragraph.

I never attacked you for not buying a gun or people buying lower end guns. Cite your references or else your comments are baseless. Of course I would love some clarification on how it is retarded that I am not attacking you on your purchasing decisions, but on how you present yourself/ what you write? I suggest if you are unable to write a coherent, well thought out argument, it is best that you retake the 3rd grade class where it id first explained.

they are all linked because if you think about it... and if you reach into that deep recess of your mind, you may soon, and hopefully before the next century or so, realize that not buying (none at all, if you want to be specific, gotta help you speed out that logical thinking process of yours after all... lol) any parts MAY slightly increase your chance of not knowing where/what/how things work and to buy, no? well that does certainly help contribute to the 'brain-deadness' as you so call it
like you said, if all my comments made no sense at all, i can look up some phone numbers you can call for help.
i have 2 years left and maybe some time in college for paintballing, its either 800 dollars now or nothing at all, spending money on a low end gun (or any other idiot-proof marker as you have ever so slightly slipped in) such as a tippmann will waste my money. and if anybody argues otherwise, its my money and i'll take my chances (besides, i have a couple knowlegable people that can help)
commander, i used the neutral term gas because air IS a form of gas, as well as c02 or nitro. i think we all learned that back in elem. school lol.

Are you trying to be funny or condecending? Well you failed at both and are yet again wrong (I assume Highschool is hard for you?). Air is composed of various gasses, it is not a form of gas. N2 and CO2 are both gasses which compose air. For the purpose of discussing paintball air systems, there is CO2, or compressed air. You said you wanted to run CO2, I said run a compressed air tank (as in a tank which is filled with air, that is compressed). So I ask what point are you trying to make? Is it the fact that I said compressed air, when they take a an air compressor, and fill your tank up with air, not a specific gas. Yea... how about if you don't have anything intelligent to say, don't say anything at all.

While I generally would suggest to people to get the best gear they can afford. I said you should choose a tippmann since you have no idea what you are talking about, and I felt you would be hard pressed to screw one up. I did use the term idiot proof on purpose, because you are an idiot.

and i thank tallen because he actually took time to explain things instead of attacking. thank you.
anyways, its sitting on the wall because either way, it will be sitting on the wall for a while until i get over school (junior year is really important in high school lol)

I am sure if you had the gear you could find some time to play. Just get the PM6 like I suggested, then  if you are thrifty it is possibly to get an electronic loader, and a HPA tank for the $800. A PM6 is basically the same as the DM6 w/o the UL frame. The PM6 and DM6 models don't differ that much from the newer PM7's and DM7's (I think).

i thought i already explained that?
-yes i know freeflow is out of business, but that doesnt mean i cant use it as an example

It is a bas example if the only company you can cite is out of business.

o and the dm7, yeah i found a place where they sell for 750, and still in stock + previous people have bought in the past and works fine

They aren't a reputable dealer. Either the merchandise is stolen, they are breaking their contractual obligations, or it is a scam. Since manufacturers require stores to not sell as below a specific price (MAP). If they are simply not following their agreement, it is a good deal, but I would be wary of them. If it is the other 2 options, I would steer clear of since it is obvious trouble.

If you are talking about an online store, I wouldn't trust buying from them. Where is this place with the cheap DM7's?

Everybody in this thread, please take a deep breath before posting again... let's all try to get along without insulting each other.

Thanks.

Linus wrote: Buy either a CCI Phantom or Carter Buzzard.. resell values stay at close to 80% or more even years later. Plus they are great markers.

He was asking about a higher end electro pneumatic marker, not a pump.