Virginia Tech shooting
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Topic: Virginia Tech shooting
Posted By: reifidom
Subject: Virginia Tech shooting
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 12:33pm
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http://www.cnn.com/ - CNN front page.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/16/vtech.shooting/index.html - CNN story. CNN reports 22 confirmed dead in the shootings. That's quite a tally. Normally they don't get more than a handful, but this person had a plan. ------------- 
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 12:37pm
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Just saw this on the news. Really tragic.
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 12:40pm
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I'm watching now....crazy sad... What I don't understand is how he was able to shoot some people in one hall, and then shoot more in another hall two hours later.....Sounds shifty to me.... -------------  |
Posted By: hoginds24
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 12:44pm
| Sister just sent me the link. So who's applying to VT next year? |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 12:46pm
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How depressing. It's sad how they were able to kill so many students.
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 12:50pm
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That freakin' iReport they're playing on CNN right now is freaky as hell....
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 12:55pm
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Oh my God... I can't even fathom having that sort of thing happen at my school. What makes people do things like this? ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 12:57pm
Thats the new wave in Journalism. Everyone has a camera-phone, and many people submit their clips to the news centers. It lets news-rooms get in closer without having to actually get in closer ------------- 
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.Ryan wrote:Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 1:24pm
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This guy definitely had a plan if he killed 22 people--what kind of sicko thinks of this crap?
The world is such a wonderful place. 
*EDIT* PbN and other actual news sources are claiming a possible second shooter... Either way, it's not getting less screwed up as it's coming out. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 1:26pm
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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 1:36pm
| I'm applying to VT too, go in state tuition!!! I wonder if this'll improve my chances....But seriosuly, this is horrible. I can't even log on to the website there's so much traffic, has anyone read the statement they issued? Hope everything turns out alright, i know people who go there.... |
Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 1:41pm
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My prayers will be with the victims family's. ------------- 
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 1:43pm
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That's pretty incredibly frigged up. From the sounds of it the authorities really botched it by lifting the lockdown. It should not take that long to find an neutralize one guy. Hopefully lessons will be learned here. I mean, the odds of anybody sucessfully hijacking an airliner ever again are probably gone, hopefully we can figure out a way to at least minimize casulties in incidents like this. I'm giving it about six hours before nancy pelosi intruduces a semi-auto ban, even if we find out he used a shotgun. |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 1:45pm
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^ Maybe it was a semi-auto shotgun. JK. But this probably will turn into more ammo for the gun control camp. ------------- irc.esper.net #paintball |
Posted By: pntbl freak
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 1:54pm
| Some other news sites are saying 32 dead. |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 2:12pm
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CNN is up to 29 now....
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Posted By: FlimFlam
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 2:15pm
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These types of things just leave me shaking my head... I just can't personally imagine taking 29+ lives... I guess we'll need to blame Grand Theft Auto and semi auto's, cause we all know this wouldn't have happened in a world without violent video games and *legal* semi-automatic weapons... Seriously, how long before the video game connection is made? I give it 4 days... ------------- 
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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 2:26pm
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ha, someone on Fox early said they suspected it was someone with an assault rifle like an AK47, or M16. So they said it was probably someone in the military.
anyway, it is just a massacre in my opinion |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 2:26pm
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Well, it's on the political radar. The Senate just had a comment and a moment of silence and Bush commented earlier and is making a statement at 4:15.... This guy was probably extremely mentally ill though, which will somewhat subvert the need for a scape goat, so we may not see as many tie raids on games and guns.... ------------- |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 2:31pm
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31 now confirmed dead, 29 injured.
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Posted By: FlimFlam
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 2:33pm
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Yes, my young padawan, mental illness is surely THE contibuting factor here. I mean, hell, who does this kind of thing? But I also assure you that they will find a Playstation 2, or X-box, or whatever, with GTA, or Hitman, or some other such violent fare which will SURELY be added to the list of contibutors to this tragedy. Won't even need to be HIS PS2/3 or Xbox, just that he had access to one that had violent games with it. I can almost guarantee it at this point... Mental illness will not be enough of a scapegoat for the media on this one... They will need something else to give it some zing... -------------
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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 2:35pm
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Woah, I know a lot of people that go to VA Tech, it's really close to where I live. I hope the death count stops going up soon. ------------- 
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 2:39pm
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Well, the Amish school shooting didn't bring up this stuff anymore than it had been before the shooting, so ya never know. 'Course, this is obviously much more extreme and dramatic....I think it's gonna be hard to predict this kinda thing until we learn more about the shooter. I'm still not convinced that it was just one guy.... BTW, CNN just said this is the deadliest shooting incident in the history of the US....wow. ------------- |
Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 2:45pm
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My roommate that I told you about that has been annoying me for sometime turned down music about shooting people to ask me about the shooting at Va Tech and agree with me that it's terrible that a person would even consider doing such a thing. He then started a new song which also had to do with shooting people. I thought you all would appreciate the irony. ------------- 
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 2:59pm
Not THAT ironic really. If I listen to a song, and someone references doing coke, doesnt mean anything about my views on it. Same goes for movies, anything. |
Posted By: c4cypher
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 3:06pm
I dread the thought of Jack Thompson riding his horse over that hill once more ... |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 3:08pm
For irony, I just heard this kid on CNN say that his friend or is in Iraq called him to make sure he was ok.... ------------- |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 3:10pm
Oh sweet christ I hope not... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I'm_O.K_-_A_Murder_Simulator - I want to play it |
Posted By: FlimFlam
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 3:34pm
Jack Thompson is probably quivering with anticipation at this point. He may even be touching himself... -------------
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Posted By: impulse!
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 3:43pm
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I wonder how long another copy cat shooting will happen. ------------- 
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Posted By: FlimFlam
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 3:46pm
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Bingo... the more news play this gets, the more likely a "repeat" will occur... -------------
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 3:54pm
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 4:31pm
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Wow. This really dampens Columbine. A lot of young lives cut short. And on a political note, the gun-nuts aren't gonna like this... ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 4:35pm
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God bless the dead... ------------- ///AMG What? |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 4:46pm
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Wow, if they would have stopped the guy after the first shooting only 2 people would have died....now it's up to 33 dead, 15 injured...
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Posted By: The American
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 4:52pm
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It will be interesting to see what/if colleges across the country take any kind of action to stiffen security/safety or anything a long those lines.
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 5:03pm
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They definitely need more info. What happened for the two hoyrs after the first shooting? Shouldn't there have been buildings evacuated and massive amounts of police all over campus? It always says students received no warnings other than an Email 2 hours later? Granted it's a 2,600 acre campus but what were they thinking not telling everyone?
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Posted By: DarkSideEchoes
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 5:04pm
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The press says they suspect that this might be a terrorist attack, but it was done by an asian guy so I don't think that theory is valid. ------------- 
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 5:06pm
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My dad herd on Xbox Live that the shooters ex-girlfriend caused this. ------------- 
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 5:06pm
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Terrorists don't have to be arab....AQ has a strong standing in South-East Asia....
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Posted By: The American
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 5:12pm
I just saw a news report on a family in my area who has a daughter at the college. During their interview, they mentioned something about a girlfriend, but it wasn't really clear what they meant. -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 5:14pm
That's as credible as Fox News. Anyways. What is it about April that makes people crazy. Oklahoma City, Lincoln's assasination, Columbine... |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 5:17pm
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_shootings - Wiki
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Posted By: The American
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 5:20pm
Don't people have anything better to do than to rush out put possibly false information on a very popular website? -------------
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Posted By: netramakin
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 5:22pm
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I normally try to be civil and respectful on this forum (and elsewhere) but will the two of you please shut up? Your ignorance is showing. ------------- 
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 5:22pm
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 5:27pm
I'm calling shens... VT is a gun free zone. This couldn't possibly have happened.  Too many sheep, not enough sheepdogs. One person, just one with a CCW could have saved dozens of lives. Or for that matter, a couple of unarmed folks who decided to pull a flight 93 on the perp. I just hope if I'm ever in a situation that I have the balls to go down fighting... None of this kneel in a line and get executed crap. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 5:46pm
| One jackass shoots 60 people and expends god knows how many rounds and the police dont even engage him. Granded you could kill a lot of people trapped in a building, but from the cell phone vids I'm seeing the police were taking cover and not moving while there's shooting going on in the background. Why you're not running balls out and engaging this guy I have no idea. |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 5:50pm
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Kinda like they did at Columbine... ps Why all the hostility at the wiki? I think it's been really interesting how info on this event has been reported on and spread and whatnot...True look at the future of news... ------------- |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 5:59pm
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Posted By: welcome guest
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 6:06pm
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Sorry I have to do this. But check out this fat cop. A whole bunch of cops show up for this shooting at the same time. And porky the pig takes his time and then stops half way to take a break. http://www.wfsb.com/video/12189653/index.html - http://www.wfsb.com/video/12189653/index.html I bet you if you said the donut shop was on fire he would be the first one there. ------------- http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml - http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. 
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 6:07pm
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I would rather risk my life to save a few others. Besides if he is going to start killing, might as well try and take the gunman down. I just hope more people around me would help. |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 6:14pm
| I'm not saying how the police acted was right. But it's funny to hear all this "going down in a blaze of glory" stuff. This macho hero stuff is all good until you are actually in the situation and you realize how much you want to live. Of course you want to help, but hostage or police, it's not always the movies. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 6:14pm
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Oh boy, here comes the traditional tippmann forum boasting of how each forumer here would have pulled out their deagle and had it out with the shooter, and would have saved the day.
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 6:17pm
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Beat you to it chewp. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 6:18pm
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As for Jack Thompson, he's already done it guys:
http://kotaku.com/gaming/virginia-tech/breaking-idiot-blames-va-shooting-on-games-252702.php - http://kotaku.com/gaming/virginia-tech/breaking-idiot-blames -va-shooting-on-games-252702.php And what other news network to let him on.....Fox |
Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 6:18pm
| You do no good by adding another casualty to the situation. |
Posted By: The American
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 6:19pm
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 6:28pm
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Generally agree - but in bri's defense, he specified stated that he HOPED he would have the courage to do so, rather than unfoundedly declaring what he would have done. |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 6:35pm
I will agree on Bri's behalf. |
Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 6:43pm
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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 6:52pm
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I love how Fox is already being attacked.. they report the same crap the other stations do, with what a right wing twist? good god the horror. a media network that dominates ratings isnt left wing like every other network? good god hell must be frozen over.
What truly bothers me most is the exploitation of ALL the media interviewing students. Its just sickening, the reporters asking questions like how do you feel? did you see anyone dead same stupid crap because reporters have no brains. |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 6:58pm
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ITT: Virginia Tech shootings... not political bias in news networks kthx.
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 7:02pm
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If you want the truth, go to both stations, and mix the info together. You cant trust just one station and/or reporter, due to the bias fact. I think this is horrible. The videos are reallly creepy. ------------- 
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 7:02pm
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Wow, the bald girl's story is something else....They should have known he'd shoot through the door....
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 7:06pm
Link? |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 7:09pm
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She was just on CNN....Lemme see if I can find something... Sorry, couldn't find anything....I'm sure they'll replay it.. ------------- |
Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 7:16pm
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 7:17pm
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Or go all Chuck Norris and roundhouse kick the bastard. -------------
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Posted By: Pate
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 7:27pm
Good luck out running the bullet.
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Posted By: glazener24
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 7:34pm
| What is someone supposed to say about someting like this? I'm sorry doesn't quite do it. I am truly at a loss for words about this has made me feel. My deepest sympathies to the University, it's students, and the family and friends of the victims. Today, we're all Hokies. |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 7:38pm
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The bald girl's name is Erin Sheehan. She was in her 9:05 German class when the gunman shot about 20 people in the class. She's mentioned http://collegemedia.com/ - here (in the 5:27 update) and http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/16/vtech.shooting/index.html - here , but I couldn't find video. She tells the story much better, you should watch for it on CNN.
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 7:39pm
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Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 8:32pm
I guess they missed the Civil War.
Give me a weapon, and sure. IF someone's about to execute me, or someone else, I'll gladly throw myself at them, if I think there's no other way. It worked for two kids during one of the school shootings around the time of the Columbine massacre, and frankly, I'm a)pretty big, and b)do know a thing or two about weapons. I hope to God that I'm never involved in anything like this though. I was watching Black Hawk Down this morning, and the quote at the end of the movie is perfect: "No one asks to be a hero". This guy certainly didn't create any.
If you were going to be a casualty anyway, then maybe it would. I'd like to think I'm not so conceited as to be unwilling to put my life on the line to save a number of other people's live. For example, couple months ago, that shooter in the mall in the Midwest, I believe he killed 6 people (kinda cloudy on it now)--but he got involved in a firefight with an off duty cop, who held him in place until the police arrived with only two mags in his concealed carry pistol (I believe he had 14 rounds, again, kinda cloudy on it).
I think you'd be surprised by the difficulty people who haven't trained with firearms have in hitting a moving target, at any range, Pate. That said, we don't yet know what his proficiency was--either way, running isn't a bad idea. |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 8:36pm
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Well, I would imagine the Civil War is in another category entirely....
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Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 8:43pm
That was totally sarcastic. I just think it's slightly ridiculous the way the media compares shootings like this--it's totally unnecessary, unless you want to set a bar for future murderers. |
Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 8:49pm
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My moms husband was going on a rant about that shooting. I made him shut up pretty damn quick when I said "Cool, know what guns were used?" He also gave me quite a disgusted look
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Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 8:54pm
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My teacher was talking to her freinds son on the phone today and he claims that he was 2 floors above the first shooting. The shooter and his girlfreind were arguing and the ra came to shut them up and when the ra got there and complained the shooter pulled a 9mm and shot the ra. This is kind of scary I dont live to far from blacksburg (hour or 2) and I know plenty of people who plan to go their and who go their. Its kind of wierd no one ever expected this.(please excuse my poor typing im in a hurry) ------------- 
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Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 9:02pm
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Yeah, lay on the ground with everyone else. Chances are that the shooter is going to realize what hes done, or become shocked by something, and try to run the hell away from the scene. But if you get up and try run away from him, or even at him, he's going to get scared, panic, and probably shoot you.
And I'm sure it wasn't any "of this kneel in a line and get executed crap." He most likely busted in the door, and started firing. Now as far as the reloading thing goes, yeah, someone should've tried to step up to him. ------------- 
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Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 9:02pm
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Ah, that makes sense. Shot the RA and the girlfriend--but wait, wasn't he asking where his girlfriend was when he went to the science building?
Anyway, this is one for the history books, folks. I'm sure there will be some sort of anti-gun legislation happening again soon, so stay tuned!
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Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 9:06pm
We had just something about guns on our local news here in STL. They said something about since we have passed the conceal-&-carry law, neither murder nor crime has gone up. I think they might have even said it had gone down. Just think if one of the students had a concealed weapon when the shooter came into the room (although it wouldn't matter since weapons are prohibited on school grounds). Many lives could have been saved. -------------
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Posted By: BooksAndLeaves
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 9:10pm
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live journal of shoot mans: http://wanusmaximus.livejournal.com/ - |
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Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 9:14pm
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