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Topic: Best 98c to M4 I have seen
Posted By: robo
Subject: Best 98c to M4 I have seen
Date Posted: 17 April 2007 at 12:03am

Not mine

It is a link to another site and to see the pics you need to login so I posted 2 of them

http://www.milsimzone.com//index.php?showtopic=17487&hl=" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.milsimzone.com//index.php...opic=17487&hl=

 




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Posted By: kickinwing2010
Date Posted: 17 April 2007 at 12:06am
That does look very good, now if only he would have milled off tippmann then it would have been perfect but I give it a 10 out of 10 anyways.

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Posted By: barn_user
Date Posted: 17 April 2007 at 12:08am
Noice.


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 17 April 2007 at 12:08am
Uh, where paint go?

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Posted By: little devil
Date Posted: 17 April 2007 at 12:10am
thats amazing, how do u feed paintballs into it? and yeah, no doubt 10/10


Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 17 April 2007 at 12:23am

good job indeed, 10/10

it feeds from the bottom, he moved the detent up top and has the fake M203 qloader feeding from below.



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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 17 April 2007 at 12:31am
Q-Loader? Holy crap. That's genious...

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Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 17 April 2007 at 1:34am

As I want to make something like this I’ll give a full review of what I think.

Wow this looks nicer than what I had planned to do to mine, eh Detrevni?!  Don’t answer that. lol

It is the best I’ve seen.  But it’s still not perfect imo…


Things he did perfectly:

--The transfer from real parts (the tiny useless pieces on the left side of marker) they look great (oh and there are some on the right side too) - make it look real.

--The way the launcher is attached makes the 98 C not look so awkwardly long [from the part from the end of the mag to the end of the Tippmann marker (not including barrel)] It seems shorter, which is good on the 98!  The only other way to compensate is to mod a magazine somewhere in the middle between the end of the marker and the trigger.

--No hose on the outside of the marker or no ASA.

--The magazine in the second picture… BEA… UTIFUL

--Has a real AR15-A2 or A3 Sight Rail = best one. (Not BT, Tacamo or Tippmann).

 

Things I’d change/ don’t like

--The top sight, probably switch it with a larger Tasco Red dot sight (42mm?!) (personal pref).

--Filling in the warning caution words on the left side of the marker.

--Removing the side feedneck cyclone numbs (considering he’s not using them)

--I’d still run a cyclone over a Q-Loader on it, any day.

--The grenade launcher is massive (getting a hold of a Scepter, would be the best – yes they are out of production though).

--Milling the Tippmann lettering off.

--Filling in the part that had the Custom Pro words with bondo or JB weld then sanding smooth.

--Stick a BT sealed bolt over the cocking handle rather than leaving it open. (not the Rocket cock as it doesn’t match nicely on milsims).

--Paintjob is badly done imo.  I’d redo with real duracoat paint, using airbrush and air compressor and stencil make it a Digital woodsland or even better, a MARPAT digi camo.

--The adapter above the A2 or A3 Sight Rail has a gap/loop/round part where there is no metal.  There are nicer looking sight rail adapters than that one.

 

Things I’m indecisive about

--The rear stock is imo a tad uglier than the Tapco stocks (which is now owned by PCS). Most M-4’s I’ve seen have stock the Tapco style stocks.  But he has an airline going through his stock which you can’t do with a Tapco stock, so it makes up for it.

--The grip is nice and real looking, but doesn’t look as comfortable as Dye Sticky’s (Dye Sticky’s 1st version looks fine on milsim guns and is comfortable).

-- He used a good quality barrel but if he is going for the all M-4 look he could have used a milsim barrel or stuck a muzzle break at the end.

-- He used a very nice shroud but I’m trying to see it in my mind without the holes in the shroud (not my personal pref) and maybe only a top and bottom rail, instead of 4. IDK I just think I’ve seen some that resemble the M-4 more than that one, and that look (maybe) a bit better but I’m indecisive.

 

All in all, Damn, that thing is great!!

I give it a 9.25/10



Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 17 April 2007 at 6:56am
That looks sick and truly is ingenious. He did an awesome job.

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Posted By: c4cypher
Date Posted: 17 April 2007 at 8:44am
How the heck did he mount the colt receiver frame/pistol grip on there? Beautiful 10/10


Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 17 April 2007 at 9:17am
Thats a nice piece of work.

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Posted By: robo
Date Posted: 17 April 2007 at 9:57am

Originally posted by c4cypher c4cypher wrote:

How the heck did he mount the colt receiver frame/pistol grip on there? Beautiful 10/10

I agree that that is one of the best parts. And it is an Egrip, he has the solenoid and trigger switch in the grip and the board and battery in the clip.

 

I can understand the some people wont like the paint job, but I like it. It looks like it has been through a war and is ready to go back. Compared to alot on camo jobs that look like they are for hunting.



Posted By: c4cypher
Date Posted: 17 April 2007 at 10:39am
The dummy rounds (I assume they're dummy rounds) in the spare clipped mag are a oh'so'nice touch.


Posted By: VBHARDCORE
Date Posted: 17 April 2007 at 6:31pm
One beautiful piece of work!!A+A+ Looks like he moved his remote nipple to the car stock. Man has some patience and time.

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Posted By: MagnumPeanut
Date Posted: 17 April 2007 at 6:32pm
I've seen this gun on another forum and yes, its holy crap awesome.

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Posted By: Strandimal
Date Posted: 18 April 2007 at 3:09am
Wow! What a unique paintball marker.  I can appreciate the custom modifications you made here.  What a great idea to cover the Q-loader with a fake M203.  That's a well made M203 too.  How did you build that?  This marker took some time, effort, creativity and ingenuity.  Great job!!!!  I see some burlap there...are you sniping with this thing?


Posted By: prolitesniper
Date Posted: 18 April 2007 at 4:03am
^^haha he said its not his, but any way thats either a 68 carbine or a procarbine, the actual bolt is a dead give away, and the grip size is to small for the 98

so i would say thats freakin sweet though

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Posted By: c4cypher
Date Posted: 18 April 2007 at 8:17am

Originally posted by prolitesniper prolitesniper wrote:

^^haha he said its not his, but any way thats either a 68 carbine or a procarbine, the actual bolt is a dead give away, and the grip size is to small for the 98

I'm not sure about the bolt, I know it doesn't look like a 98 Custom (That or he bothered to mill off the word 'custom' without milling off the 'Tippmann' ... unlikely) ... the grip isn't made by Tippmann, in fact, the entire lower half of the marker is a replica of a geniuine reciever frame for a Colt AR model.

It's not a Pro Carbine, due to the fact that it's got  98 style iron sights (look behind and ahead of the AR rail he has mounted on that beast), what does bug me is the flat spot behind the 'Tippmann' ... what is that? An old Model 98?



Posted By: robo
Date Posted: 18 April 2007 at 10:18am

Like I said it is not mine. There is a link at the top to http://www.milsimzone.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.milsimzone.com  the poster there is the creater so you can ask him questions.



Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 18 April 2007 at 12:14pm
That, is an awesome marker.

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Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 18 April 2007 at 2:55pm
Originally posted by c4cypher c4cypher wrote:

Originally posted by prolitesniper prolitesniper wrote:

^^haha he said its not his, but any way thats either a 68 carbine or a procarbine, the actual bolt is a dead give away, and the grip size is to small for the 98

I'm not sure about the bolt, I know it doesn't look like a 98 Custom (That or he bothered to mill off the word 'custom' without milling off the 'Tippmann' ... unlikely) ... the grip isn't made by Tippmann, in fact, the entire lower half of the marker is a replica of a geniuine reciever frame for a Colt AR model.

It's not a Pro Carbine, due to the fact that it's got  98 style iron sights (look behind and ahead of the AR rail he has mounted on that beast), what does bug me is the flat spot behind the 'Tippmann' ... what is that? An old Model 98?



ZOMG honestly?  I'm just kidding I thought it was a different marker too until I saw the left side of it.

Of course it's a 98... It's the custom pro (newer) or an older 98 Custom.  I'm pretty sure both the new 98 pro and older 98 Custom say in the pressed metal Tippmann... the flat spot is where the metal plate that says "Custom Pro" and "98 Custom" ... he that ripped off but didn't mill off the words Tippmann.

And that's why there is that flat spot.  I mention the flat spot in my list of things I'd change (filling it in with JB weld and sanding it down smooth). 

The trigger frame was obviously modified!  Which I also mention when I talk about how the grip looks nice but doesn't look as comfortable as dye sticky grips.

This is definitely the nicest 98 Custom milsim job that has ever hit the internet (or that I have seen at least).


Posted By: Sarge14
Date Posted: 18 April 2007 at 6:27pm
looks like they took a lower reciever of an m16 and mounted the 98 to it. nice tho..almost had me goin

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Posted By: Cyberdemon
Date Posted: 19 April 2007 at 10:09am
this inspires me since i have a 98. kickass.

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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 22 April 2007 at 12:33pm
Originally posted by phil_stl phil_stl wrote:

As I want to make something like this I’ll give a full review of what I think.

Wow this looks nicer than what I had planned to do to mine, eh Detrevni?!  Don’t answer that. lol

It is the best I’ve seen.  But it’s still not perfect imo…


Things he did perfectly:

--The transfer from real parts (the tiny useless pieces on the left side of marker) they look great (oh and there are some on the right side too) - make it look real.

--The way the launcher is attached makes the 98 C not look so awkwardly long [from the part from the end of the mag to the end of the Tippmann marker (not including barrel)] It seems shorter, which is good on the 98!  The only other way to compensate is to mod a magazine somewhere in the middle between the end of the marker and the trigger.

--No hose on the outside of the marker or no ASA.

--The magazine in the second picture… BEA… UTIFUL

--Has a real AR15-A2 or A3 Sight Rail = best one. (Not BT, Tacamo or Tippmann).

Things I’d change/ don’t like

--The top sight, probably switch it with a larger Tasco Red dot sight (42mm?!) (personal pref).

--Filling in the warning caution words on the left side of the marker.

--Removing the side feedneck cyclone numbs (considering he’s not using them)

--I’d still run a cyclone over a Q-Loader on it, any day.

--The grenade launcher is massive (getting a hold of a Scepter, would be the best – yes they are out of production though).

--Milling the Tippmann lettering off.

--Filling in the part that had the Custom Pro words with bondo or JB weld then sanding smooth.

--Stick a BT sealed bolt over the cocking handle rather than leaving it open. (not the Rocket cock as it doesn’t match nicely on milsims).

--Paintjob is badly done imo.  I’d redo with real duracoat paint, using airbrush and air compressor and stencil make it a Digital woodsland or even better, a MARPAT digi camo.

--The adapter above the A2 or A3 Sight Rail has a gap/loop/round part where there is no metal.  There are nicer looking sight rail adapters than that one.

Things I’m indecisive about

--The rear stock is imo a tad uglier than the Tapco stocks (which is now owned by PCS). Most M-4’s I’ve seen have stock the Tapco style stocks.  But he has an airline going through his stock which you can’t do with a Tapco stock, so it makes up for it.

--The grip is nice and real looking, but doesn’t look as comfortable as Dye Sticky’s (Dye Sticky’s 1st version looks fine on milsim guns and is comfortable).

-- He used a good quality barrel but if he is going for the all M-4 look he could have used a milsim barrel or stuck a muzzle break at the end.

-- He used a very nice shroud but I’m trying to see it in my mind without the holes in the shroud (not my personal pref) and maybe only a top and bottom rail, instead of 4. IDK I just think I’ve seen some that resemble the M-4 more than that one, and that look (maybe) a bit better but I’m indecisive.

All in all, Damn, that thing is great!!

I give it a 9.25/10

When was Tapco bought out by PCS? Tapco makes real firearm stocks and mags, and it was only recently that they started making Tippmann stocks.

Well, a couple years ago. Same difference



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Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 24 April 2007 at 8:59pm
I don't know when but I think it was in the past 6 - 9 months...

But last I checked Tapco still makes firearm stocks and stuff.  Their website is still up.

It's just that what was their stock now is packaged in a bag with the name PCS on it.  So ya I'm guessing PCS bought out their paintball side of things and it was over 6 months ago.

Thats all I know.


Posted By: Kingtiger
Date Posted: 13 July 2007 at 1:08am
sorry about bumping this but its the best 98c - m4 i have ever seen. WOW!!!   


Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 13 July 2007 at 12:14pm
Thats a sweet gun.

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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 13 July 2007 at 12:17pm

Originally posted by phil_stl phil_stl wrote:

I don't know when but I think it was in the past 6 - 9 months...

But last I checked Tapco still makes firearm stocks and stuff.  Their website is still up.

It's just that what was their stock now is packaged in a bag with the name PCS on it.  So ya I'm guessing PCS bought out their paintball side of things and it was over 6 months ago.

Thats all I know.

I know Tippmann also did the same thing too. I dont know



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