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Forum Name: Upgrades and Customizing
Forum Description: Trick it out!
URL: http://www.tippmannsports.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=166676
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Topic: Newbie seeking customization...
Posted By: Syxx676
Subject: Newbie seeking customization...
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 11:52pm
I'm not sure where to start, I've already discussed a bunch with another forum trying to figure out which gun to purchase...
I'm 22, never played paintball but twice for fun... and only play woodsball or woodsball type games.  SOME open areas or little obstacle fields...
So, I just bought this gun... 
Ebay Item #: 150115727898
http://tinyurl.com/3aybe5

Now, maybe not anytime real soon, but I'd like to upgrade a few things just to have fun with my friends n such... (maybe down the road even I don't know)...
I've gotten all sorts of mixed answers and suggestions, but I'd like to ask you guys your opinions.  First, I'm not sure how well the barrel will work out for me.  I've heard the J&J S2 or S1? is good.  After researching some, I am very interested in the Response Trigger system (staying away from electronics).  Also, an expansion chamber, and some type of electronic hopper...

Responses regarding the RT...
DO NOT GET AN RT TRIGGER! They are illegal in tournies and somewhat hard to get used to. Plus it offers 2 modes only and uses air to reset itself. Get an Egrip. Much easier to install, more modes, and faster with less hassle.

R/T is kind of iffy.....i'lld take the e-grip first.

Any input would be appreciated...

Thanks



Replies:
Posted By: etbarry
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 11:55pm
you link doesnt work ... and the r/t is great for woodsball, my buddy has one.

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98CustomPro
14" J&J Ceramic
Male Palmers
WAS Grip
TechT Fang Trigger
Reloader-b
Dye Stickys
Drop with on/off
20oz CO2

Comming Soon:
RD CenterFeed
Milling and Painting


Posted By: Syxx676
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 11:55pm
sorry about that, fixed...


Posted By: etbarry
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 11:57pm
wow nice price. however if you jump to fire power ups then you need loading ups. i would get a better barrel first look into a J&J ceramic or a lapco bigshot both good barrels.

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98CustomPro
14" J&J Ceramic
Male Palmers
WAS Grip
TechT Fang Trigger
Reloader-b
Dye Stickys
Drop with on/off
20oz CO2

Comming Soon:
RD CenterFeed
Milling and Painting


Posted By: etbarry
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 11:59pm
maybe a dead on x chamber ( you will also need a vertical adapter) and the r/t and a 12v revvy for it.

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98CustomPro
14" J&J Ceramic
Male Palmers
WAS Grip
TechT Fang Trigger
Reloader-b
Dye Stickys
Drop with on/off
20oz CO2

Comming Soon:
RD CenterFeed
Milling and Painting


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 11:59pm

Well the link doesn't work so i'm assuming 98 or a5.

J&Js are supposed to be amazing barrels.

RTs can be great if you want to stay from electronics, though someone else that has more experience can explain them for you.



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<just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs>


Posted By: Syxx676
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 12:01am
Originally posted by etbarry etbarry wrote:

maybe a dead on x chamber ( you will also need a vertical adapter) and the r/t and a 12v revvy for it.


heh, I should really emphasize the fact that I'm a newbie and certain terms just don't click for me... sorry.


Posted By: etbarry
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 12:05am

Dead On 8 stage expansion chambers are good but you will also need to buy a vertical adapter to be able to install is. the r/t is great wone you get the hang of it and a 12v Revolution hopper is a cheap yet efficient electronic hopper and would work pretty well with the r/t.



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98CustomPro
14" J&J Ceramic
Male Palmers
WAS Grip
TechT Fang Trigger
Reloader-b
Dye Stickys
Drop with on/off
20oz CO2

Comming Soon:
RD CenterFeed
Milling and Painting


Posted By: Nagash1959
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 12:19am

Ok, I am fairly new to upgrading and messing around with my gun, along with playing legitamite games instead of shooting friends in the woods. Let me share with you what I've gathered so far.

First off, you got a great gun at a great price. the 98C is near indestructable as long as you avoid throwing it at movin cars you should be able to get it working again no matter what you do. While not being a great gun for speedball I think the 98C is truely great at woodball.

Now, as for upgrading the gun if you just ask "Hey, what do you think I should get?" you get responses from people who don't know what you want from your gun. So let me suggest this. Go play games with it. A lot of games. Find out exactly what you think the gun needs for the games you like to play (although anyone who says a new barrel would be right, stock barrels on guns are pretty much designed to suck to keep cost down)

I suggest reading this post:  http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=61929&PN=1 - http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=619 29&PN=1

from start to finish as it will answer a lot of questions you might have and is loaded with good advice.

Now, after figuring out how you want your gun to perform you start looking for ways to do it. If you don't mind shooting less balls but want longer range then you would skip out all the fancy triggers and such, but perhaps think of getting a Flatline barrel. That was just one of many possible examples. Read about all the different parts and upgrades and such as you can. Ask endless amounts of questions (someone will answer you) and never just run out and buy something without thinking it over.

Get to know how to take apart and re-assemble your gun without the instructions. Learn the names of the bitz and pieces that go in it and what they do. Each part is there for a reason so if you want to change the part you should know the reason. Keep all your old parts even if they seem useless to you now you might need them again soon.

Finally, if your playing out in the woods with friends, buy a hand chrono. If your at a range chrono your gun there. Never skip this part or you can really hurt someone.



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98 Custom
Cyclone
Double E-Trigger
Polished Internals
Freak kit
X-chamber
CP Drop w/On/Off


Posted By: Syxx676
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 12:30am
hey thanks a lot for all of that info... I have actually read a bunch of that stuff.  maybe you're right though, I should probably play a lot with my gun until I figure out exactly...

I do, however, think I've decided against the flatline so far...


Also, thanks etbarry... I'm wondering if there are any pics around with the vertical adapter/expansion chambers... I can only find things involving the other expansion kit...


Posted By: Nagash1959
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 1:00am

http://www.tippmann.com/product_guide/accesDetails.aspx?id=66 - http://www.tippmann.com/product_guide/accesDetails.aspx?id=6 6

This the one?

About the flatline, not a big fan of the idea myself, mainly because I think it is increadably ugly looking.



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98 Custom
Cyclone
Double E-Trigger
Polished Internals
Freak kit
X-chamber
CP Drop w/On/Off


Posted By: Syxx676
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 2:12am
ah, yea... but on the gun...

that is different than the dead on x chamber though right (w/ vertical kit)...


Posted By: A-5 sniper
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 10:18am
well I have to agree.  You really should play and get to know your gun before you start major uprades so you will know where ypur gun is lacking in your style of play.  though i can garontee that you will want a barrel the is about the most common upgrade around. I personaly have 2 barrels for each of my guns.  I would recomend the empire twister barrel but from what ive read in thes forum the J&J ceramic barrels are good also.  so go out and have fun then decide what mods you want to do.

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A-5 with E-Grip
20 in. smartparts barrel
14 in. empire twister barrel
16 in. j&j ceramics barrel
40 3000 tank and remote
core red dot sight


Posted By: Nagash1959
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 11:33am

Originally posted by Syxx676 Syxx676 wrote:

ah, yea... but on the gun...

that is different than the dead on x chamber though right (w/ vertical kit)...

Wait, do you mean you want to see a pic of a gun with that upgrade? If that was what you ment then look at your gun now, just picture it with the hose coming out of the front grip instead, that is the only visable difference as the front chamber is shaped like the stock grip.



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98 Custom
Cyclone
Double E-Trigger
Polished Internals
Freak kit
X-chamber
CP Drop w/On/Off


Posted By: Black_Shadow
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 1:54pm
It i was you, i would get my gun first and play with it see what you want it to do. dont worry about upgrades until you have got out on the field with it a few times.

but if your seeking upgrade advice here:

J&J ceramic = awesomeness, therefore buy it now. hundreds of people http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/251/ - here agree with me. its the best bang for your buck when you have a new gun.

after that the  Dead-On Xchamber would be a great idea.

Then pick yourself up some form of electronic loader or a cyclone (since your in my camp and hate electronics on a tippmann.)

then you should think about the RT. boy will i tell you, it might not be easiest thing to get used to. but after some target practice and a little tuning, boy it rips. those fools with their egrips paid twice as much to get full auto when this thing has pretty much the same effect. but field legal since its technically semi. good luck getting an egrip set in full auto mode on a field.


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98CP ACT
R/T
J&J Ceramic 14"
Egg II w Z-Board
GTA Inline X-Chamber
NCStar Red-Dot
Pen Spring Mod
Trigger Stops
Polished Internals
Dye Sticky Grip
20oz Co2 w On/Off

Next Up: Spimmy


Posted By: prolitesniper
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 5:58pm
Originally posted by etbarry etbarry wrote:

wow nice price. however if you jump to fire power ups then you need loading ups. i would get a better barrel first look into a J&J ceramic or a lapco bigshot both good barrels.


ehh the stock barrel should do fine for awhile, and look at the cost of shipping 33 bucks just for that plus 128 is 160, so its ok priced

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Tippmann A5
RT
16in J&J Ceramic
14in linear smartparts
New BT Apex Barrel
45ci 3000psi Nitro System
blade trigger
4+1pack


Posted By: Syxx676
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 7:20pm
i meant the dead on x chamber and vertical kit... that's different than the expansion chamber kit right...?


Posted By: etbarry
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 8:58pm

They are both expansion chambers but the dead on from what i understand is better than the tippmann. if you have the money to spend id a get a palmers stabilizer which would get rid of about 99% of the liquid co2 problem that you are trying to fix with the expansion chamber and would also give you better consistancy shot to shot under the crono but there the $100 and still require the VA(vertical adapter). 

oh and prolite forgot bout the shipping so ya good point thats like normal.



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98CustomPro
14" J&J Ceramic
Male Palmers
WAS Grip
TechT Fang Trigger
Reloader-b
Dye Stickys
Drop with on/off
20oz CO2

Comming Soon:
RD CenterFeed
Milling and Painting


Posted By: Syxx676
Date Posted: 03 May 2007 at 1:23am
heh, I'm not even so sure of where that stabalizer goes... and also, it doesn't seem like it's worth the extra cash...


Posted By: Syxx676
Date Posted: 03 May 2007 at 1:47pm
a different trigger may also be something I'll look for in the future too


Posted By: Black_Shadow
Date Posted: 03 May 2007 at 2:34pm
Originally posted by Black_Shadow Black_Shadow wrote:

If i was you, i would get my gun first and play with it see what you want it to do. dont worry about upgrades until you have got out on the field with it a few times.


quoted for emphasis.

Note: The stabilizer is well worth the extra money, however see above quote for the course of action a smart person would take.


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98CP ACT
R/T
J&J Ceramic 14"
Egg II w Z-Board
GTA Inline X-Chamber
NCStar Red-Dot
Pen Spring Mod
Trigger Stops
Polished Internals
Dye Sticky Grip
20oz Co2 w On/Off

Next Up: Spimmy


Posted By: Syxx676
Date Posted: 04 May 2007 at 1:09am
gotcha, thanks for the advice...

anyways, for my tippmann... what do you think would look better... the J&J ceramic, or ceramic S2?




Posted By: Syxx676
Date Posted: 04 May 2007 at 1:10am
and also (only for future reference, probably when/IF I get a RT or something else down the road)... should I just go with the Revolution 12v, or spend the extra cash on a HALO B loader...?


Posted By: lt redneck
Date Posted: 06 May 2007 at 1:24pm

about the response trigger.  they say its illegal in tournaments but if you are a casual player just playing with friends chances are that it will never come up.

hoppers i dont know too much about.  all i do know is i have a halo hopper and it works.  but i would have to say just about any motorized hopper will do the trick.

i have a link to my gun which has a tippmann vert expansion chamber. for the price it works very well.  and i just cant see myself getting rid of it anytime soon.

http://tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=166679& amp;PN=1 - http://tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=166679& amp; amp;PN=1

but ya i didnt buy any upgrades untill after i shot it.  and to this day the only upgrade i needed to make my gun perfect for my style is the expansion chamber. the barrels and stocks are just to fit special purposes and looks.



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