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Tippmanns vs. Spyders

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Topic: Tippmanns vs. Spyders
Posted By: UF #1
Subject: Tippmanns vs. Spyders
Date Posted: 03 May 2007 at 7:00pm
Alright me and my friend are discussing which is better. I, of course think Tippmanns are better but I need more ammo. Does anyone else have any good reasons as to why Tippys are better?



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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 03 May 2007 at 7:08pm
Does it matter?

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Posted By: UF #1
Date Posted: 03 May 2007 at 9:09pm
No, we are just having a friendly argument...


Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 03 May 2007 at 9:43pm
Some can argue that Tippmanns are generally more durable and reliable than some Spyders, however Spyders really arent as bad as every Tippmann owner makes them out to be.

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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 03 May 2007 at 10:25pm
The electronic Spyders are pretty nice. Like the VS, Pilot, and Fenix. I hear some pretty good stuff about them.


Posted By: Commander_Cool
Date Posted: 03 May 2007 at 10:47pm

Yea higher end spyder models have eyes and electronics, lower end spyders are cheaper then tippmanns. They also have as many if not more upgrades than tippmann guns.

The only difference is Tippmann guns are heavier, and slightly more durable, as in you need to clean a spyder more often than a Tippmann. Of course if you respect your equipment you should be doing that either way.



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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 06 May 2007 at 11:50am

Tippmanns can be converted to Electro-Pneumatic and make sick Milsim Guns.

Plus, they're made in Amerika



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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 06 May 2007 at 5:12pm
Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

Plus, they're made in Amerika

lol you actually think so?

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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 06 May 2007 at 5:16pm
Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

Tippmanns can be converted to Electro-Pneumatic and make sick Milsim Guns.

As can Spyders.



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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 06 May 2007 at 6:45pm
The true advantage to a tippmann marker lies in the construction of the CVX valve versus the spyders using a classic Sherridan valve set-up. Liquid CO2 doesn't cause nearly as many problems with tippmann markers due to the fact that the valve has been engineered for optimal performance regardless of the weather conditions. Kingman, on the other hand, is using technology that is over 20 years old and cup-seals that are fairly hard and affected easily by the cold. Both are very upgradable since the advent of sear-tripping e-frames. Tippmann has the RT system which allows you to upgrade fire-power without needing to go electronic.

All in all, both are fine markers for the price, but when it comes to innovation, durability, and reliability in less-than-perfect conditions, tippmanns win out.

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Posted By: LoneWolf019
Date Posted: 08 May 2007 at 2:53pm
Higher priced spiders are better then Tippmanns but overall i say Tippmanns are better becasue you can amke it to suit your style and as for spyders, once you get it that your style of play as to go with the gun. But Tippmanns you fix your gun to your style of play. I love my Tippmann (Equiped with a Flatline Barrel and MP5 Fixed Stock) and my cousin has a Spyder Pilot ACS and mine goes farther and more accuarte, his has a faster rate of fire but that is it. We went one on one and I owned.

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Posted By: pepprdog
Date Posted: 09 May 2007 at 9:57am
Look and see which gun the larger fields use for rentals. This fact seems to be heavily leaning toward Tippmanns.
Then there's customer service...no comparison.

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Posted By: prolitesniper
Date Posted: 09 May 2007 at 11:30am
word home slice

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Posted By: Xo redbull oX
Date Posted: 09 May 2007 at 9:07pm

i beloive tippy are better  due to the fact that they are mor duarable and you can make them fit ur style like

 

-speedball

e-grip

jj barral or sp barral or lapco bs

along with many others

-woodsball

r/t

stock/s

scopes

camo( i dont believe spyder is curremtly making a cama gun)

jj barral or lapco bs

sling along with many others



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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 12 May 2007 at 3:37pm
OMG.... the horrendous spelling and grammar of a few of these posts just made my eyes bleed!!!!!

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Posted By: 1up!
Date Posted: 13 May 2007 at 2:11am

i think that they are both the same cause the operation is the i have a vs3 and a-5 and they shoot about the same only really diffrent is the a-5 has more kick maybe if i use a lpk it would be the same but all in all they are both the same



Posted By: Anarc
Date Posted: 15 May 2007 at 7:33pm
I have a Spyder and a 98 Custom, and I have to say my Tippmann is way better than my spyder. But you can't really talk about what gun is better. One may have better accuracy and be more durable, while the other has a faster rate of fire. The equipment really only makes a difference when the skill is the same. I played with a P.O.S. Gameface for a couple years, and I came out on top against a lot of people using Tippmanns. If you're a better player you could play with a pump pistol and win. I've seen it happen. But in my opinion, a Tippmann wins out over a Spyder because a Tippmann is the AK of the paintball world. You can fill it with dirt, sand or water and it'll still fire like normal. (That was metaphorical by the way. If you fill your gun with any of those you're not the brightest spork in the shed.)


Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 16 May 2007 at 6:30pm
If I get dirt in any of my guns it's back to the DZ to clean or switch guns


Posted By: Kingtiger
Date Posted: 17 May 2007 at 10:27pm

well i preffer Tippmanns over spyders cause they've been around so long and they are way more customizable than spyders are. i used a spyder for a few months then sold it 2 my friend who also likes paintball and i bought an X-7 and i noticed a huge difference in accuracy rate of fire, kick, and use of C02. the spyder had a low rate of fire, less weight less kick, very low accuracy and it used more C02.

so over all i use tippmans but if i ever get a Bob Long ill use it unless im doing scenario.



Posted By: jedi mike0
Date Posted: 18 May 2007 at 2:46pm
Don't forget about Tippmann's great customer service!


Posted By: Kingtiger
Date Posted: 20 May 2007 at 11:42pm
you do have a good point there about the customer service


Posted By: paintballer40
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 10:19pm
tippmann is better


Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 02 June 2007 at 8:45am

Originally posted by jedi mike0 jedi mike0 wrote:

Don't forget about Tippmann's great customer service!

Exactly!  I sent in my old rusted out Pro/Am (long story) and they cleaned her up (better than I could), installed Pro/Lite internals and got her back up and running!  All they charged me for was parts and shipping.  They had to do some machining to get the new internals to fit which took time.  Got her back in 5 days.  That was some fast work for that kind of turn-around time.



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Posted By: thebuickguy
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 4:09pm
Once again one gun is not more accurate then any other gun its all about paint barrel matching how many times must i say it.  

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Posted By: Kingtiger
Date Posted: 09 June 2007 at 12:46am
what? were talking about tippmanns vs. spyders not barrels.


Posted By: Gunchicken
Date Posted: 14 June 2007 at 10:42am
tippmann has a better diseign than a spyder, most spyders have the elbow right in theline of sight and they are really shiny so the stick at woodsball. They are the same accuracy if you got a new barrel, but the spyders are not as easly upgradeable as tippmanns and tippmanns are built more durable.


Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 14 June 2007 at 1:42pm
^oh really.  please go into detail as to why tippmanns are easier to upgrade and are more durable.


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 16 June 2007 at 3:26am
Yeah, you can do a LOT more to a Spyder than people think. Probably more than a Tippmann...

I will give Tippmann more durability though.

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Posted By: e-rok
Date Posted: 16 June 2007 at 7:51pm
Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

Plus, they're made in Amerika

Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

The true advantage to a tippmann marker lies in the construction of the CVX valve versus the spyders using a classic Sherridan valve set-up. Liquid CO2 doesn't cause nearly as many problems with tippmann markers due to the fact that the valve has been engineered for optimal performance regardless of the weather conditions. Kingman, on the other hand, is using technology that is over 20 years old and cup-seals that are fairly hard and affected easily by the cold. Both are very upgradable since the advent of sear-tripping e-frames. Tippmann has the RT system which allows you to upgrade fire-power without needing to go electronic.

All in all, both are fine markers for the price, but when it comes to innovation, durability, and reliability in less-than-perfect conditions, tippmanns win out.

didnt know that last bit by tallen but hey sounds like a hell of a reason why tippy would come out on top over spiders. not to mention the customer service being second to none




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