paintball pistols
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Topic: paintball pistols
Posted By: Saskiu
Subject: paintball pistols
Date Posted: 07 May 2007 at 7:14pm
does tippmann make a paintball pistol? semi-auto? i was checking the airsoft pistol but didnt see paintbal ones.
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 07 May 2007 at 7:50pm
tippmann does not. Paintball pistols are more of a mil-sim piece than anything practical in the world of paintball due to the lack of long-range accuracy as well as their bulk and loading times and lack of cheap, expendable ammunition clips.
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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 07 May 2007 at 10:13pm
Tippmann doesnt, but there are some nice options out there if you're looking for one. Check out a PGP, Zeus, or RAP4.
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Posted By: Nagash1959
Date Posted: 08 May 2007 at 2:20am
Some look nice. However unless you can get a cool "pistols only" game going then there is really little point to them. In speedball the extra weight and slow ROF would make it useless. In woodsball the lack of range and small capacity is little more then a liabilty.
But in a pistols only game where eveyone has the same limits then it would be an interesting game. I want to give something like that a try one day. I'm thinking about the Ariakon ACP, mainly because I like the look.
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Posted By: Saskiu
Date Posted: 08 May 2007 at 6:42pm
Pistol for like i tight corners buidling markers bukly.
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Posted By: I Shoot Fast
Date Posted: 08 May 2007 at 8:18pm
^ what languange are you speaking?
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Posted By: Mitsu
Date Posted: 13 May 2007 at 1:52am
The Tiberius 8 is really nice. I've got one and reloading it is quick enough to be something resembling practical. With the aftermarket holster its not too bad to carry around (the extra mags are most of the weight actually) but I bought it more because I love pistols than because it's a good idea. They are worthless in speedball, so-so in woodsball, and might actually get you some kills in some oddball games like real CQB indoors and stuff. The ACP is alright, and I've messed around with a WSP, but the Tiberius really wins as far as pistols go.
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Posted By: Nagash1959
Date Posted: 15 May 2007 at 11:07am
I've looked into the Tiberius, but for that price of they couldn't even give it a ten round mag then I'd never pay that. Id rather have a gun that is slightly less accurate and gets more shots for less then half the cost (with three mags instead of 1). Nevermind that the clips for that thing are $40 each.
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Posted By: Anarc
Date Posted: 15 May 2007 at 7:22pm
I figure a pistol is good for "Oh crap" situations, like when you're being rushed and a ball breaks in your barrel. A pistol could be the thing that gets them down long enough for a team mate to cover you or to clean your barrel. At the last game I played, a friend of mine crawled on his stomach with an old pump pistol and managed to flank a group of three and take one out, without getting shot. I guess if you know how to use one they can be useful in woodsball. But not speedball.
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Posted By: lt redneck
Date Posted: 16 May 2007 at 1:19am
i got a delta .68 and its serving me well. i get 10 shots per clip not much but can save you in the middle of a reload.
in fact i used it last saturday after i hit the ground hard. most of leftover paint in my hopper busted open making it nearly useless. my pistol was there to save the day.
but a tip, unless your pistol has a hopper and atleast a 9oz tank i wouldnt use it as primary weapon. because when its empty you wont get it loaded fast for a second try.
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Posted By: Mantyluoto
Date Posted: 16 May 2007 at 5:38pm
I've got a tiberius pistol and as it chrono's nearly as high as my A5 i'd say the power is not a problem.
Also while the 8 round mag is not that high, practice using it with the spare in your hand. and practice reloading it standing over a bed. You feel a moron doing it (especially as the wife was watching!!) but it increasing your reload time.
I had to use my pistol in a game as my my best friends gun went down and we were assualting a fort. i threw him my A5 (which he caught thankfully) and i continued down the slope with my pistol. I got 3 out that game and we took the fort.
The only problem i've had with my Tiberius has been with the holster but i hope i've sorted that though Rap4 do a nice chest rig.
Hope this helps.
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 16 May 2007 at 5:45pm
lt redneck wrote:
i got a delta .68 and its serving me well. i get 10 shots per clip not much but can save you in the middle of a reload. |
I keep hearing people say that pistols are convenient for when you are reloading your "main" gun.
Can't you people reload on the fly? If there are people around, I reload with balls in the hopper and my finger on the trigger. It would take a whole lot longer to whip out my pistol than just shoot them with my regular gun.
I'm sorry - but pistols are fun and cute toys and all, but they have just about zero practical use in paintball.
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 26 May 2007 at 11:59pm
Nagash1959 wrote:
Some look nice. However unless you can get a cool "pistols only" game going then there is really little point to them. In speedball the extra weight and slow ROF would make it useless. In woodsball the lack of range and small capacity is little more then a liabilty. |
I'll just go ahead and say you've never played pump before...
1) ALL GUNS HAVE THE SAME RANGE AT SAME VELOCITY (Ignore the Flatline)
2) No, lack of ROF does not make it useless. I play stock class against pros (Roy Richards, Rusty Glaze of Infamous, some people from the old Texas Storm)
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 27 May 2007 at 12:35am
1) Most pistols don't have a barrel or just have a small one, this means they are likely to fly in all directions at medium to long ranges (sometimes less). Though it theoretically has the same range, it effectively won't. Try firing your main gun with no barrel and tell me how effective range is affected.
2) He is talking about speedball not stock class fool.
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Posted By: lt redneck
Date Posted: 28 May 2007 at 3:32am
Clark Kent wrote:
lt redneck wrote:
i got a delta .68 and its serving me well. i get 10 shots per clip not much but can save you in the middle of a reload. |
I keep hearing people say that pistols are convenient for when you are reloading your "main" gun.
Can't you people reload on the fly? If there are people around, I reload with balls in the hopper and my finger on the trigger. It would take a whole lot longer to whip out my pistol than just shoot them with my regular gun.
I'm sorry - but pistols are fun and cute toys and all, but they have just about zero practical use in paintball.
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you are right it does take longer to pull the pistol out. but not everyone reloads a hopper in the same way you do.
my pistol was there when i hit the ground hard and lost the last of my paint. most of it hit the ground but much broke in the hopper. had no paint left just what was in my pistol.
it allowed me to continue for a couple minuets untill my hopper took a hit.
also have you guys that say the pistols are not accurate ever shot them? i tested you theroy out where i play. a 7 inch opening in a barn about 50-60 feet away. shot 10-15 balls from my tippmann and put aroung 12 in the slot. my pistol holds 10 and i put 7 in the slot.
same distance and 7 of 10 is accurate enough for me.
but sure if you shoot the cheap paint your accuracy will be horrible even in your primary gun.
so if you dont like pistols dont carry one. i have experianced their usefullness first hand and will continue to carry one.
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Posted By: Nagash1959
Date Posted: 28 May 2007 at 10:49pm
Linus wrote:
Nagash1959 wrote:
Some look nice. However unless you can get a cool "pistols only" game going then there is really little point to them. In speedball the extra weight and slow ROF would make it useless. In woodsball the lack of range and small capacity is little more then a liabilty.
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I'll just go ahead and say you've never played pump before...
1) ALL GUNS HAVE THE SAME RANGE AT SAME VELOCITY (Ignore the Flatline)
2) No, lack of ROF does not make it useless. I play stock class against pros (Roy Richards, Rusty Glaze of Infamous, some people from the old Texas Storm) |
1. No, I have never played with a pump before. Heck I've never even seen one in real life.
2. Let me re-phrase, lack of effective range. As pointed out most pistols start to suffer from a bad drop-off in accuracy after a certian point, less then you'd have with a full sized gun with a good bore-to-paint match.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 28 May 2007 at 11:38pm
Nagash1959 wrote:
. . . unless you can get a cool
"pistols only" game going then there is really little point to them. Carrying just a pistol
when everyone else is armed normally actually makes for quite an exciting
game. In woodsball the lack of
range and small capacity is little more then a liabilty. As someone else
mentioned, it’s safe to assume you don’t use a pump very often.
But in a pistols only game where eveyone has the same limits then it would
be an interesting game. It is. |
Anarc wrote:
I figure a pistol is good for "Oh crap" situations,
like when you're being rushed and a ball breaks in your barrel. Or when your CO2 tank goes dry because you’re really cheap
and want to get every possible shot out of it.
(I’ve finished a few games with just the pistol for this very reason.) |
lt redneck wrote:
. . . unless your pistol has a hopper and atleast a
9oz tank i wouldnt use it as primary weapon. because when its empty you
wont get it loaded fast for a second try.
Very true.
One of the times I went “pistol only” ended with a little kid chasing me
in circles around a large bush and finally shooting me in the butt while I was
trying to reload. |
Clark Kent wrote:
If there are people around, I reload with balls in the hopper and my finger on
the trigger. I reload like that all the
time. I prefer to never let my hopper
get more than half empty. (In fact, I’m
reworking a set of my old work web gear to hold 30 and 50 round hoppers so I
can reload more often.)
. . . but pistols are fun and cute toys and
all, but they have just about zero practical use in paintball. Paintball is a game, it’s about having fun and owning the
coolest toys. |
Nagash1959 wrote:
. . . most pistols start to suffer from a
bad drop-off in accuracy after a certian point, What
pistols have you tested this theory with? less then you'd have with a
full sized gun with a good bore-to-paint match. Paint
to bore match issues will affect any marker whether it is a pistol or
full-sized. A valid accuracy comparison
would be between a pistol and a full-size marker with stock barrels on both or
with after-market barrels on both. The
real issue here is the current lack of decent aftermarket barrels for paintball
pistols, not the accuracy of the pistols themselves.
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carl_the_sniper wrote:
. . . Most pistols don't have a
barrel or just have a small one, this means they are likely to fly in all
directions at medium to long ranges (sometimes less). This
depends on the pistol. Common barrel/marker
theory is that a minimum of 6 inches of barrel is necessary for most markers to
efficiently accelerate a paintball up to normal field speeds and stabilize it
sufficiently to maintain a predictable trajectory from shot to shot. If a pistol has at least 6 inches of barrel,
then it should have similar accuracy to other markers. The issue, as mentioned above, has more to do
with the quality of the barrel. Though
it theoretically has the same range, it effectively won't. As mentioned before, it depends on the pistol. I’ve fired the following:
- PT Extreme
- Suffered from range issues due to low velocity. Fixed with aftermarket spring.
- Once spring was replaced accuracy with stock barrel was
equal to Tippmann with stock barrel.
- After-market barrel combined with a good
paint-to-barrel match provided accuracy equal to my Autococker with Edge
barrel kit.
- Got rid of it because it required continuous internal maintenance to keep working.
- Sidekick Semi
- Very accurate (better than stock PT) despite massive
velocity fluctuations. (It came
with a very nice brass barrel.)
- Returned to manufacturer because of velocity issues.
- Piranha USP (Current pistol)
- Least accurate of the pistols I have used.
- Probably due to a large bore, 5 inch barrel that is just drilled out of the
frame.
- Doesn’t matter, it works for what I need it for. (When the CO2 runs out on my primary I
can still shoot some paint.)
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Posted By: Commander_Cool
Date Posted: 29 May 2007 at 2:24am
Money spent on pistol = better spent on HPA = no more $$ for CO2 due to all day air = no more running your tank dry = always having air = having a pistol due to air concerns is needless.
money spent on hpa over a pistol = increased consistency
space used to hold pistol = more space to hold paintballs
Using your primary marker with a compressed air system is better than using CO2, and then having a pistol as an addition. As stated by others a pistol is a "neat toy", and can be fun to use, but probably not the most practical piece of equipment to use as a regular setup. Furthmore as far as "neat toys" go, paintball pistols are pretty low on the list of paintball equipment.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 29 May 2007 at 7:50pm
^^^
- HPA tanks are not extremely useful when they can't be refilled at the field.
- I prefer CO2 on Tippmanns.
- Actually, when you consider shots per tanks size, I just prefer CO2.
- It's my money.
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 29 May 2007 at 10:49pm
i play pistol only all the time.
in fact, i'm doing it this weekend.
PGP FTW.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 30 May 2007 at 1:52am
Styro Folme wrote:
i play pistol only all the time.
in fact, i'm doing it this weekend.
PGP FTW.
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Pistol and pump; that's like double cool points. I need to add a decent pump pistol to my collection.
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Posted By: Paddy_M
Date Posted: 02 June 2007 at 10:51pm
I own an Ariakon ACP 2.0, and have fired a Zeus g2 I reccomend the Ariakon gun. Plus mags are like 60 for 3.
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