X7’s vs A-5’s
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Topic: X7’s vs A-5’s
Posted By: kook
Subject: X7’s vs A-5’s
Date Posted: 19 May 2007 at 1:11am
| Well, I have a 98 custom right now and I plan to get either an A-5 or an X7. I've heard different stories about both. Things like "X7's are just for looks" and "A-5's waste Co2" So I want the opinion on the official Tippmann forums. Which is better the X7 or A-5? |
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Posted By: jordanpischke
Date Posted: 19 May 2007 at 1:24am
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x7 has a better cyclone and has a low profile hopper. ------------- 
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Posted By: Commander_Cool
Date Posted: 19 May 2007 at 4:03am
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A-5 is the better buy, most of the cost in the X-7 is cosmetics. Stock the X-7 is lighter, and has a slightly faster cyclone, but with the money left over from buying the A-5, which is basically the same marker, you could upgrade the cyclone to feed faster than the X-7's, buy some other upgrades, in the end making the A-5 outperfom the X-7 when the same amount of $$$ is invested. Of course I would suggest looking at other manufacturers other than Tippmann. ------------- 2005 Freestyle Naughty Dawg Freestyle Angel LCD SP-8 Tippmann 98 Custom |
Posted By: Kingtiger
Date Posted: 19 May 2007 at 11:40am
| whats wrong with you? Cant you read? these are the T-I-P-P-M-A-N-N forums. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 19 May 2007 at 5:07pm
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Are you kidding? I was going to help you, but I don't think you deserve it. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Kingtiger wrote:Posted By: kook
Date Posted: 19 May 2007 at 6:49pm
err.....I didn't write that. That other guy did |
Posted By: Kingtiger
Date Posted: 21 May 2007 at 2:25pm
| its true i said that so dont blame him blame me. o and dont help me if u think i dont deserve it but w/e its not his fault. |
Posted By: paintballer40
Date Posted: 22 May 2007 at 6:53pm
| i agree with kingtiger i like tippmann but it would not hurt to look into other companies, if this is ONLY A TIPPMANN fourm than why do other people talk about other guns, who cares get over it |
Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 22 May 2007 at 7:32pm
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lol tippman will obviously expect ppl to use other guns, because some people admire other qualities and forget that tippmanns are always top quality, tough, fun and so much more. ( ya im kising tippmans butt....) the X7 is lighter yet larger. this is going to feel like weilding a sledge hammer that weighs 1pound. lol the a5 in my opinion is better, i think it would be more balanced, as well as a smaller target. if you want the slim hopper, jsut get the 50 ball loader that comes with the a5. the a5 will also be mroe respected in my opinion, ive seen this kid with a new x7 run from my a5, flat out run from me. same performance, smaller size, and an x7 will give you the rep. that your about milsim/money/intimidation. the a5 is cheaper and just as baddass if not more, can be decked out as a mislim gun and its intimidating when someone can use it right. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 12:40am
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Sorry bout that kook, A bit of help: The internals the the a5 and x7 are pretty much the same, they are both pretty bad on gas efficiency. The X7 is mainly designed for looks, but the a5 and x7 shoot pretty much the same right out of box except that the X7 is lighter. It's all up to you and how much you want to spend. The x7 is perfect if you want an ak/g36/m16..., but the a5 is good if you want to either broaden your millsim choices or just not go millsim at all. (if you decide to go millsim with the a5, it would probably cost you more) They are both fantastic markers. Anything else? Paintballer40, you are talking about the wrong person ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: paintballer40
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 4:41pm
| o sorry thought he said it |
Posted By: Kingtiger
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 8:25am
| i dont know why i posted that except for i was bored out of my skull an sometimes im a little impulsive. srry carl. |
Posted By: Merkurius
Date Posted: 27 May 2007 at 5:59pm
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Very interesting topic. I'm exactly in the same situation. I have my old Tippmann Model 98 since like 1999 and it's time for me for some changes. I have few questions... 1. Does a barrel that originally fitted on 98 will also on both a5 and x7 ? I guess not. 2. What about putting the vertical bottle on a5? I mean, does it lower the quantity of CO2 in the gun at a point that it diminushes the fire rate? 3. The cyclone. How is it? A friend of mine had an old Tippmann Factory F/A many years ago, and it totally sucked. Now, how is the new one? 4. Price?! A big difference between them? I'm not so rich so it's an important detail for me... Thank you very much. I always had Tippmann guns (before my 98, I had a Pro-Lite) and for nothing I would get to another company. ------------- www.kanibalz.com |
Posted By: KillerBD
Date Posted: 29 May 2007 at 8:21pm
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I kinda agree with you here. These are Tippmann forums, but it seems like their are more tippmann haters here than tippmann supporters.... ------------- Tippmann A-5: >Tapco CAR stock. >W.A.S. board, E-grip. >Spyder Remote Line. >Smart Parts 20" barrel. >Other custom mods. |
Posted By: Sgt_Hoot
Date Posted: 02 June 2007 at 2:57pm
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The X-7 is basicly a A-5 with some improvements and lots of mods to put on it. ------------- A-5 Response 20 oz tank Flatline barrel 4x100 round pods Assault vest 
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Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 02 June 2007 at 4:29pm
| carl i'm glad you took this one |
Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 12:09am
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I would wait a little for the X7 to drop in price. Right now you're paying big bucks because it's the latest and greatest and they want to make as much money as possible from the people that can't wait to get one. Once the impatient people spend their money and sales begin to decline, they'll drop the price until sales pick up again. For example, look at the A5. It started out at like $400, stayed there for a little, then dropped down to like $240 about a year later (if I remember correctly) when I got mine. Now they go for like $220 I think. The X7 will do the same thing which is why I'm waiting to get mine. Use your 98 for a little longer and save up some money for the X7, that's what I did to get my A5 and it definitely pays off in the end. Also, while the A5 is a good gun, the X7 is much lighter which you might appreciate if you're into scenarios since walking through the woods carrying a gun for hours can wear you down.
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Posted By: diedonimpact
Date Posted: 27 June 2007 at 10:50pm
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this has been a very confusing topic to read.... but get the A-5, its more practical (money-wise) unless you really need the looks of the X7, yet ive never been elimated from a game by looks ------------- 
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 28 June 2007 at 2:44pm
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No.
The new cyclone isn't wind-up like the F/A. It is pneumatically operated by the blowback gas. It works much much better.
A-5: $200 X-7: $300 ------------- 
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Posted By: Commander_Cool
Date Posted: 29 June 2007 at 4:35pm
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Are you serious? My advice was sound advice. Perhaps you should try other markers besides your tippmann? ------------- 2005 Freestyle Naughty Dawg Freestyle Angel LCD SP-8 Tippmann 98 Custom |
Posted By: DRACO
Date Posted: 03 July 2007 at 8:45pm
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Hey Kook, IMHO they both look Awsome On a Budget go A5 ( I can't believe I just typed that Want the Latest go X7 (it is definitely lighter and will be less fatiguing (spell check) when playing all day). Best wishes,
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. Wastes Co2? Never heard that from my Buddy who runs Co2 with his R/T Grip.
)Posted By: KillerBD
Date Posted: 04 July 2007 at 2:32pm
Personally I've gone from owning two Spyders (a Compact 2000, and an E-99) to owning a Tippmann A-5. By far I love the A-5 more, it can outperform my old markers and then some. Don't get me wrong though, Kingman Spyder makes a good paintball marker; but for me I like the A-5's low maintenece aspects. Also the cyclone alone almost makes it worth buying, no replacing batteries, and no misfeeds (for the most part). ------------- Tippmann A-5: >Tapco CAR stock. >W.A.S. board, E-grip. >Spyder Remote Line. >Smart Parts 20" barrel. >Other custom mods. |
Posted By: bapaintballer71
Date Posted: 08 July 2007 at 2:37pm
| alright guys i got a situation on my hands and am needing a little help. the first gun i ever owned was a tippmann 98 custom and i absolutley loved it then i got my hands on a spider and used it for a long time and really enjoyed that gun but it became out dated so i went and bought an ion and now i absolutely hate the damn thing i take good care of it and it still has problems and brakes down on me all the damn time, so i figured i would go back to tippmann products. not to mention that i really enjoy woodsball more than speedball. but now im at the choice of two either A5 or x-7 i think the X-7 looks cooler but alot of you guys are saying A5 is there really any difference in quality between the two? or accuracy, rate of fire, etc. or should i just try something different than tippmann? thanks for the help guys |
Posted By: Savage A-5
Date Posted: 08 July 2007 at 9:54pm
Well I recently bought an A-5 and I like it. Im having problems with the Flatline barrel but thats just because I have no idea what Im doing and I could really use some tips on its accurate range and what the FPS should be for best accuracy (PM me or post below if you know  ). From what I hear X7 is more cosmetic but its lighter and has a better cyclone which I dont understand why or how because the cyclone looks the same to me. But if I were you I would definatly go Tippmann for their durability. I just hosted a paintball game and I forgot I left it on the back of our Gator and I drove off and it just fell off the back and it was unscaved. Sure there was a scratch or 2 but it didnt really do any damage to it.
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Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 09 July 2007 at 12:47am
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bapaintballer71: Between the A5 or the X7, the X7 is better but I don't know that it's really worth the extra money. The main differences between the two are that the X7 has a lighter body, a better cyclone, and can accept some better milsim upgrades. Other than that it's basically just an A5 with a new look as far as I can tell. If that's worth the price difference to you then go for it. Otherwise, the A5 is the better choice. Either gun is a good choice, both are solid and can be made into very nice guns. Accuracy and rate of fire will be the same as they are almost identical on the inside and take pretty much the same upgrades. Accuracy and rate of fire will be craptastic at stock so you'll definitely be upgrading the barrel and adding an RT, egrip, or double trigger. Honestly though, if money is a concern and you don't want to be limited to the cyclone (or have a good hopper already), a 98 custom ACT may be an even better choice. It's cheaper, has ACT, and you can get the same upgrades (including the cyclone if desired). Though, you would be giving up the field stripping and all the other advantages of the A5 over the 98. Savage A-5: What kind of problems? I've had best results with small bore paint and velocity at around 260-270. If you're having a serious issue, I'd make a new thread so that we don't get off-topic in this one. ------------- oreomann33: Everybody invades Poland Rofl_Mao: And everyone eats turkey Me: But only if they're hungary Mack: Yeah but hungary people go russian through their food and end up with greece on everyth |
Posted By: Sniper Addicted
Date Posted: 09 July 2007 at 7:49pm
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The X7 only costs $230 at my local paintball shop in Ma. Therefore, why not spend a tad bit more on it? I did, and belive me it was worth it. Although the flatline barrel on the X7 is not long enough to add an extra 150 feet to the distance of a paintball. The Response Trigger is a great mod to add onto the X7. I have one on my X7 myself, and it just gives you a great feeling when your firing with it (Sweet spot is very easy to get). The only other mods I would consider to get is the commando-air-through stock/ foldable stock, and a verticle hand grip. Other than that, everything else makes the X7 look more bulky then it already is. ------------- Tippmann X7 Flatline Barrel Response Trigger 15 bps 14" quite rifled barrel Vertical Folding Grip Laser Sight V Force Pro Vantage Mask |
Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 09 July 2007 at 8:53pm
| X7 is just a way to make an expensive gun look like a good buy. o, everyone likes the A5 so the X7 should be way better, it even comes with mods on it, so even the new guys who dont want to spend a lot can justify the expense, or the milsimmers can do whatever they want with a marker thats to big for any speedballer to touch ever. except it doesnt realy do much past the A5. lol its lighter, ya its an ok bonus but its also like way bigger, and bigger is the thing htat gets you shot. most improvements on the X7 can be put on the A5 without putting on the size. A5 all the way |
Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 09 July 2007 at 11:30pm
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Have you ever seen an X7 in person? It's almost the exact same size as an A5 so I don't know where you got the idea that it's huge. In fact, right here on the tippmann site it says that length for both the A5 and X7 is 20 inches and since the internal design of both guns is nearly identical I'm willing to bet that the other dimensions are the same as well. I've held one at the store and it looks and feels just like my A5 in terms of size although it's very light. Oddly enough, the site also says that the X7 is heavier than the A5 which I find hard to believe. In any case, if you can get it for $230 then that's not bad at all. You'd basically be paying the extra $30 for a better cyclone and a lighter body in addition to getting a nice looking gun that can accept some nice milsim upgrades. Personally, if I didn't have the A5 and was looking to buy one of the two, I'd get the X7 for the extra $30. ------------- oreomann33: Everybody invades Poland Rofl_Mao: And everyone eats turkey Me: But only if they're hungary Mack: Yeah but hungary people go russian through their food and end up with greece on everyth |
Posted By: robhortonsd
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 1:56am
| I have an A-5. I don't think it's a gas hog. I think thats just hyped up b/c of the cyclone. X7 is bulkier. It may be lighter, but seems harder to manage the size. However, the new egrip looks pretty sweet. I've had to send my A-5 egrip back 3 times. |
Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 12 July 2007 at 5:55am
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Yeah, I think the people who say the cyclone wastes air just don't understand it. I've had my A5 and 98 custom for years and notice no significant difference in efficiency between them. The whole idea behind the cyclone says that no gas is wasted too so I don't see why people would bother saying something like that. About the egrip, I heard a lot of bad stuff about the WAS board so I got myself an APE rampage board instead. I just put it in a few hours ago, it's a pretty nice board. The only thing that sucked was that it didn't quite fit into the grip properly. I'm not sure if it's the APE board or if I just got a crappy grip but the capacitor and solenoid didn't want to go all the way into the grooves inside the grip so I had to whip out the dremel. I shaved away some of the plastic so that the parts could sit all the way down, otherwise I would have had to crush them to make the grip close.
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Posted By: fidai
Date Posted: 14 July 2007 at 4:36pm
| I have both A5 and X7 both of them kinda fully moded , get an x7 with egrip and u wont regret it, the new egrip for x7 makes it very nice with that faster cyclone system on it, u shoot like 20 bps if not more.Me and my brother tested both gun near each other,the x7 (with egrip) and the a5 (with egrip) we could see that the x7 shoots like 5-7 balls ( if not more)faster,not to mention that it looks way netter and lighter, hope this will help u decide :),am gonna post pics and video about it. Sorry for my crap english. |
Posted By: DevilHunter
Date Posted: 12 August 2007 at 11:38pm
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id go with the a5, its smaller, not as expensive, and almost identical performance wise BTW, carl, can i use your sig for other forums? it owns ------------- Once you hear the shot, it's already too late... A5 Sniper |
Posted By: Age_Of_Death
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 4:28pm
| Hi I was wondering how much the A-5 with the flatline barrel costs on average |
Posted By: Sigma9
Date Posted: 18 August 2007 at 8:48pm
| Are you sure that the X7 is lighter? The specs at Tippmann.com say that the A5 is lighter. Anyway I have an X7 and I really like it, is realiable, accurate, and I like the look of it, the only bad thing that I can say about it is that is does use alot of Co2 but I hear that the a5 does also. |
Posted By: broken_man
Date Posted: 22 August 2007 at 3:33pm
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The X7 "out of the box" IS slightly better. People are right when they say that you can mod the A5 to be just as good, but you'd end up paying the same if not more doing so. Basically, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You decide for yourself what the hell you want to buy. I bought the X7 because I wanted the latest gun and there were (for me) some significant upgrades to the X7. I have the e-trigger now and it's blistering fast. You can change the rate of fire and I have mine up to 25bps with a New Designz Cyclone Feed F6 Tornado Mod. My buddy bought an A5 at the same time with an e-trigger and I'm not sure if you can change rate of fire on those or not. someone else will have to speak for that. There are always a million different opinions on the subject so you will just have to decide. Go to your local dealer and see if you can hold one. Maybe even test fire one of them. Just don't sell yourself on someone else's opinion. d ------------- ::SaM:: |
Posted By: Converted1
Date Posted: 24 August 2007 at 12:02pm
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I just registered on the tippmann forums but I recently just bought my own tippmann after mouching my friend's A5 everytime we played this summer. I have a compact2000 and an Xtra but I really got tired of them and their lack of range compaired to all my friends' Model 98's so I asked around at work and one of the guys that plays speedball suggested I buy an X7. Honestly I feel like the X7 is a lot lighter than the A5 but that is probably just b/c my friend's A5 has the flatline and it just makes his gun feel really front heavy. But I got my X7 about a month ago and the only thing I ordered it with was the e-trigger. I can't stress this enough but BUY A BIGGER BARREL THE SECOND YOU GET YOUR X7!! The day I got it and played as soon as we finished I went to Micheal's (my favorite local paintball store) and asked him if he had any new barrels. Oddly enough the only barrel that matched the threads and foregrip was for a Spyder...... But it's a perfect match and it works really well so w/e. |
Posted By: Speedpass12
Date Posted: 28 August 2007 at 7:18pm
| How is the x7 stock barrell?Is it something that needs replacing right out of box? |
Posted By: xXLoganXx
Date Posted: 29 August 2007 at 9:20am
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The X7 stock needs to replaced immediately I think. I have a J&J 14" and a flatline. The JJ gives great accuracy and the flatline will give you a distance advantage (hoping the balls break though). Keep in mind.. when shooting with the flatline.. it's all about QUANTITY of balls flying! My personal opinion about this topic is that they are both good guns. I was introduced to paintball running around with an A5, and I liked it alot. I don't like the way the flatlines look on a A5 even with the shrouds. And if you compare a modded X7 (flatline, rails and accessories) to a modded A5 with the same components, the A5 is heavier and bulkier. BUT.. the RT on the A5 is alot better then the X7 RT. I got a great deal on my X7, and yes most of it is cosmetics! I got a buddy of mine that wouldn't trade his 98C for nothing.. so it's all about what you want. |
Posted By: jb-assassin
Date Posted: 13 November 2007 at 11:43am
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Hey man....are you saying Spyder thread barrel is the same of an X-7??? any spyder MR2 barrel thread would fit?? ------------- Silent Assassins DELTA FORCE |
Posted By: jb-assassin
Date Posted: 13 November 2007 at 11:43am
Hey man....are you saying Spyder thread barrel is the same of an X-7??? any spyder MR2 barrel thread would fit?? ------------- Silent Assassins DELTA FORCE |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 13 November 2007 at 12:46pm
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No, it would not. X-7s use Pro-series/A5 threads. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: thejudge
Date Posted: 13 November 2007 at 2:35pm
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Also you have to watch the shroud on the x7. my J&J kit wont fit them b/c of the 2 piece setup. I like both the A5 and X7 and have owned an A5 for 3-4 years now and have never had to replace the internals. Personally I dont understand how people crack the ratchet or break it but maybe I have just been lucky so far...*knocks on wood* ------------- Stay low, run fast, and hope that paintball doesn't hit your... http://www.deltasquad.info/"> 
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 13 November 2007 at 6:18pm
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The 98 barrels wont work on a5 or x7 eather? ------------- 
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 13 November 2007 at 9:53pm
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nope, '98 has very thick threads, very specific to that marker as it uses a stamped clam-shell receiver which needs the extra-thick threads to keep it from stripping out or wobbling.
Thread families in tippmann markers: Slip Fit:
Pro-Series Threaded:
Thick Thread M98:
I'm not sure what threads the Triumph Line use. But I'm sure it's either '98 or Pro-Series. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: thejudge
Date Posted: 13 November 2007 at 11:04pm
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triumph uses the same as the 98. ------------- Stay low, run fast, and hope that paintball doesn't hit your... http://www.deltasquad.info/">
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Posted By: TJ-AmbushSniper
Date Posted: 28 December 2007 at 8:20pm
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the only big difference in my opinion between the X7 and A5 is that the X7 has a lot of weaver rails already on it, i bought a X7 hopper for my A5, same capacity but lower profile, i would get A5. ------------- -Tippmann A-5 Double Trigger X7 Hopper to replace A5 -Draxxus 48ci 3000psi HPA -Proto Switch EL Camo 
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 28 December 2007 at 8:35pm
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Dude, the post is long dead. The OP was back in May and the last useful info came out of it over a month ago... don't spam old posts just to say something. If you have a question that is pertinent to the OP, go for it, otherwise, just let it die. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 29 December 2007 at 10:42am
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Tallen, About your thread post above, the SL-68II uses the slip thread.
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