My sniper rifles
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Topic: My sniper rifles
Posted By: lester98c
Subject: My sniper rifles
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 2:56pm
   The PMR is being sold to pay my friend for the NXT. Plan on putting a predator or tadoe board in the shocker and some form of new trigger and barrel.No one will ever see me in sniper mode now. |
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Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 3:03pm
| wow nice snipers... that whole invisible scope tehc. is really sweet. those guns arnt snipers, their speedball markers, and no speedball gun i have ever used is acurate past 60 ft, my pgp sheridan pump, a5, and autococker are more of a sniper gun that urs.... |
Posted By: AK Andrew
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 3:08pm
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UMMMMMM..........WTH ------------- wHY ARE YOU READING THIS! |
p_p_b_h wrote:Posted By: lester98c
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 3:09pm
It's a joke. but heres my real sniper. |
Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 3:28pm
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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 4:49pm
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Very nice looking NXT. My friend was considering buying one, but he's decided to go all out on a custom Ion. ------------- Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good. |
Posted By: lester98c
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 5:06pm
I almost did the same thing, but realized that it just isn't worth it. |
Posted By: keeprollin02
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 5:29pm
| Im lovin the nxt.. reminds me of my 06 sft... orange is the shiz |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 5:41pm
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Um... he was kidding ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: diedonimpact
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 8:04pm
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in all honesty...that shocker is better than almost every woodsball marker posted on this forum. lighter, faster, more accurate. but i like the pump alot ------------- 
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 10:55pm
nice sniper rifles though. ------------- X |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 11:09pm
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The Predator V3 and V10 (I think) both have a mode called Sniper Mode. Seriously. |
Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 11:12pm
| how can you call a shcoker more of a sniper over the pgp? i can get a lot more acuracy and range out of it, plus most snipers arnt capable of puting out 25 bps either, |
Posted By: ANARCHY_SCOUT
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 11:25pm
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 11:49pm
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Posted By: stick_boy_2002
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 12:01am
fo sho. ------------- 
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 11:01am
So what's the 20" add?  ------------- 
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Posted By: Hellomister
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 1:30pm
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ummm rifling and any barrel over 14" doesn't do a diddy. 100 yards = 300 feet = not a paintball gun. you might get 200 -250 with a flatline or an apex. |
Posted By: ChikunBenSniped
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 1:53pm
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Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 3:06pm
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..[/QUOTE] You dumb and e'ryone know it, dummy! [/QUOTE] hey umm ya they all get the same range (except flatline or apex users) but not all of them have the same acuracy at range than others, for ex, my pgp is accurate at about 10-110 ft, where as any speedball i have ever seen can shoot 120 ft but looses acuracy at about 50-60 ft, excluding autocockers, which get a nice 80-100 ft accurate range. and thanks for showing me im dumb, because i know my grammar is so flawed to the point where i could be nothing less of an idiot... |
Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 3:43pm
Everyones humor sensor is broken... Also, I didnt really care for the NXT. I've came up against a couple, and apparently they don't shoot very well  I am digging the color on yours a lot though, although orange is allowed in some tournaments if you play those. ------------- 
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Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 3:46pm
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oh boy.. ------------- Imagine there’s a picture of your favourite thing here. |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 4:11pm
You make my head hurt... The original superstition of Cocker's being more accurate than other "speedball" guns originated when open bolt guns tended to have more fluctuation in it's air input than closed-bolt guns. As paintball technology has improved over the years, this is no longer the case. Any consistent set up with a decent paint-2-barrel match will be just as accurate as the next gun. And to whoever tried to look smart and say nothing over 14" is any use, way to make up a number. At the average kinetic energy a paintball receives and it's acceleration due to the push of the bolt, anything over 11" is "pointless." People use longer barrels, up to 16", in order to have an enhanced ability to "push" into their bunkers to stay tight when shooting a lane or wrapping. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 4:20pm
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you need a silencer for that rifle. Seriously how do you like the vlocity? ^did you mean rapping? Like MC Hammer and other cool guys like that? |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 5:11pm
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 5:37pm
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guys, as fun as this is, we kinda debo'd lester of his thread.... i love your sniper btw... i mean the kind that exists. ------------- X |
Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 6:13pm
| speedball guns arnt made to be pinpoint acurate, their actually made to fire in a small cone patern, where as the closed bolt system puts ball on ball, splat on face. |
Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 6:17pm
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your foot looks nice in your mouth like that ------------- Imagine there’s a picture of your favourite thing here. |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 7:00pm
I don't know what I was thinking, I'm such an idiot. I forgot that bolts aren't actually fixed into speedball guns; Instead, they rotate freely to reposition a small groove at one point on to bolt in order to create a cone shaped firing pattern. Doh! Oh wait. That's nonsense. What would the advantage to that be? I implore you to tell us. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 7:12pm
| hehe no. duh. the guns arnt made to be the most accurate, because if it isnt acurate the spread pattern is widder, thus the radius ( cone) shape is wider than pinpoint. other guns are made to be as acurate as posible. see the pumps and such are made for those skilled people who have enouhg skill and aim to actually hit a target, where as the speedball guns are more user friendly and can allow anyone to lob a lot of paint in a small radius, so little aim is needed. ex a sniper rifle is hard to use if your not traine dto use it, so putting such a small dot on a target is hard, but puting the reticles of a SAW ona target allows you to waste ppl really fast, with ease. |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 7:41pm
| That is so retarded that I don't even know where to start. |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 7:52pm
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After that last post, I'm convinced he's just a troll. There's no way someone could be that dumb without trying.
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Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 8:03pm
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lol ty, lmao omg i laughed at that. well im not the one who hails a dictator made of flour.... heheh and dont you have 2 strikes for flaming? hehe dont get into a charecter battle, then welll all just bork this |
Posted By: 3442
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 8:17pm
i dont have any strikes for flaiming... yet, but after all that nonsense you just said, i must say YOU, are an idiot unless you get out thier, learn physics and tell uss how the guns makes it shoot a "cone" pattern... Then again, with all that stupidity you showed thus far, i hightly doubt even a box of cracker jacks will give you an engineering diploma ------------- Frank |
Posted By: diedonimpact
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 9:01pm
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the tippmann forum has become rather angry... -------------
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Posted By: ctchofday
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 9:01pm
as an owner of two autocockers (closed bolt) and 4 other open bolt guns (timmy, a-5, 98, spyder) ....... my most acurate gun is the flippen spyder, and the A-5.... but even my intimidator can lay balls on top of each other at 130 feet if it didnt have such a bad muzzle rise... and the autocockers are no more or less accurate... operation really means nothing towards accuracy i have now come to find , operation determines how reliably and fast the gun will shoot under certain conditions..... and its not just open or closed bolt now... the timmmy is a fully pneumatic open bolt .... where as the a-5 is a GBB open bolt.... the cockers are both of course pneumatic closed bolts .... even then can go as far as to say some are mechanical.. and some are electronically controlled... but again.. operation does nothing to accruacy..... as people may have and will say... accuracy (since your raggin on about sniper style vs. a speedball gun) .... depends on 1.the paint (size, freshness, roundness) 2.the barrel(length, polished vs stone honed, porting, bore) 3.the match of the barrel/paint 4.velocity(good regulated air source) i can "snipe" you just as easy with my Intimidator pushin 18bps as i could with my 2005 Prostock cocker.. or my A-5... even the spyder... because i buy the right barrels (the oh so magic bore of .686-.689) with sufficient porting, all polished.. none honed ... and i keep my paint dry, relatively cool and i rotate the boxes every so often ------------- Xbl:PhantomReign97 
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 9:04pm
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Idiocy tends to do that to people. |
Posted By: mamasboi
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 9:41pm
second that, nice markers though. painball markers do kinda shoot a conelike pattern cause paintballs arnt really accurate so not every shot is goin to be in the same spot. i really cant explain it with out some kind of graphic but a cone has a point and a base. the point starts at the end of the barrel and the base would be where your paint hit. |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 9:44pm
| But every gun does that! |
Posted By: ChikunBenSniped
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 9:57pm
EDIT And BTW nice guns to whoever started this thread.... whose name I can't remember currently... -------------
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 10:40pm
here's some advice and i suggest you take it very seriously. there are only 2 items that increase accuracy in a paintball marker: Barrel (matched with paint) consistancy these parts lead to barrel, hpa, reg, and other small things, such as lpk and good springs (for blowbacks) the bolt has nothing to do with accuracy, despite popular belief. < ="text/">_popupControl(); ------------- X |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 4:39am
I just want to know where he gets his information from. Oh, never mind, I figured it out myself.  -------------
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Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 6:42am
| omg your not understanding what i mean about the cone shape. if you put a paintball gun in a vice grip and shoot at a target then pull the trigger again, it has a very low chance of hitting that exact same spot, if you shoot enough shots, you should get a circle. hehe i love that comic, lol you didnt make that just for me did you? never said your phantom sucked, ive said their actually more accuate than other guns, my friend frog can peg anyhting off with his phantom, but does anyone understand? if you take a speedballgun and put it in a vice grip, and put a phantom in a vice grip and shoot say, 100 times, the circles made should be bigger for the speedball gun, where as the phantom should have made a nice, small circle. paintball, overall is a very inacurate sport, havnt you ever wished you could just peg that guy who was showing just an inch of himself? oh i find that the autocokcer has overall better accuracy, like the field i go to just switched paint, and its really small, but my cocker stayed pretty acurate, where as i found that my friends ion and spyder had a harder time hitting things. ; for the pgp, just buy a sight rail, its not hard, oh and dead men tell no tales so if you shoot them, you remain stealthy, most ppl cant pinpoint your exact location from soundwaves coming from the path of a paintball, while wearinf a mask and could have other ppl firing at them. |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 6:58am
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I would bet money against that. I really don't feel like explaining it to you again, since you obviously refuse to listen. I understand what you're trying to say, but it's WRONG. Course, I guess you would know better than a D2 PSP/NPPL player who has been playing for 8 years and works for Tippmann. I apologize good sir. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 9:57am
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USAF, You should quit your job in R&D. Hell all of us that work for Tippmann should quit our jobs. It is obvious that his superior paintball knowledge will put us out of work anyways... ------------- 
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Posted By: ctchofday
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 9:57am
that deals, yet again, with the barrel/paint match .... not the gun ------------- Xbl:PhantomReign97
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Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 10:08am
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I thought he called shens on his own posts already. He's serious. Initially what I thought he was trying to say was that speedball guns are less accurate because guys rifle off 20 bps as opposed to the stealthy one hit wonders known as snipers. There are way too many varibles to sum things up so easy. The main variable would be the shooter and the list is long. A 40" barrel contributes the most for better accuracy, better efficiency and it tends to have the silencer effect when the ports are taped off.
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Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 10:48am
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He may posses the super chromium barrel which might explain such legendary accuracy, in which case you are all dead...DEAD...DEAD! ------------- Imagine there’s a picture of your favourite thing here. |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 4:08pm
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I'll give this a go. p_p_b_h, while some markers are much more accurate than others, none are intentionally designed for inaccuracy. Each marker is designed to be as accurate as posible within the parameters of the materials used in construction and the effort that went into its design. In other words, every marker is designed to be as accurate as it is possible to achieve given the cost of production. Speedball guns are not designed to shoot a "cone of paint." Doing so would make the game harder to play, not easier. Consider this, when a backman lanes a bunker on the other end of the field, he wants his paint to all hit in as close to the same place as possible. This creates a "stream" of paint that an opponent must run through to get to the contested bunker. Part of creating an effective stream of paint is rate of fire; the faster the rate of fire, the closer the paintballs are to each other and the less likely it is that someone could run through the lane without taking a hit. Accuracy also plays a part in this. The "cone of fire" you mention would increase with range. As the horizontal/vertical distance between the paintballs increases, the possibility for someone making it through the fire without being hit also increases. Intentional inaccuracy is not something a tourney player (or any other serious player) would appreciate. Additional gee-whiz information. The term cone of fire is a military term that refers to the path that multiple projectiles take through the intervening space between the muzzle and the target while in route to the target. The beaten zone is where the cone of fire intersects the plane of the ground. Military weapons (M60, M249, etc.) are not designed to intentionally produce this conical pattern. It occurs naturally due to recoil, vibration, and even sometimes due to operator actions. It has a tendency to increase in size as firing is maintained until all accuracy is lost. To prevent this, M60 gunners used to be trained to fire in six round bursts when engaging targets at longer range. The time between the bursts allowed the weapon to stabalize, thus keeping the cone of fire smaller and more rounds on target. Any real weapon (or marker) will produce an expanding cone of fire if fired repeatedly for a long enough time. Paintball application: I own several Tippmanns, an Autococker, and a Phantom. The Autococker is by far my most accurate marker. However, it was no more accurate than the Tippmanns until I spent the money on a barrel kit. The Phantom falls somewhere between the Autococker and Tippmanns in accuracy, but I have the best ratio of hits to shots fired with it. This is because using a pump forces most people to be sneaker and select their shots more carefully. It is the individual that contributes the most to accuracy, not the marker. -------------
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Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 6:11pm
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Ill stay on task on this thread. Great guns, i love the color of the Shocker. On PbN, i believe that color was in an argument because people called it orange, yellow, and gold, no one could decide. ------------- 
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 9:11pm
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Posted By: mamasboi
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 9:29pm
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i know what you mean, i mean, i understand that eventully you would get a circle if you fired it enough aimed at the same spot. |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 11:37pm
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your logic is flawed. Although people like to think each marker has their flaws, speedball markers strive to be perfect. period. There is very little difference between the patterns of an Ion, Phantom, Shocker, Autococker, or anything for that matter, as long as it has a consistent regulator, and properly matched paint. Which usually, their regulators are pretty consistent, exception to the phantom, because it doesn't need one. < ="text/">_popupControl(); ------------- X |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 26 May 2007 at 1:11am
Hell, you think your pay is bad in design... You should see my pay down in maintenance. -------------
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 26 May 2007 at 8:53am
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ZOMG, LEIK TEH CLOSEDEDED BOLTZ RULZ LAWLZ Old Smart Parts myths FTL. -------------
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Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 26 May 2007 at 11:41am
| wow hehe i dont sound crazy now when other people can explain what i mean..... ize gots horibles comunication skillz... anyways, hehe ppl agree with me, now is anyone going to admit defeat and stop saying im and idiot, vs i cant comunicate what i mean half the time. its like having all the knowledge in the world but only knowing it ina foreign language... |
Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 26 May 2007 at 11:43am
| ohh and on the topic, i think the name of this topic is sort of off, i thought i had bad comunications skills.... im going to make a topic called "my speedball guns" and post my pump....lol |
Posted By: lester98c
Date Posted: 26 May 2007 at 12:05pm
Feel free but i for one play speedball with my pump as do many other people. Im sure people play woodsball with shockers too(i just dout the so called snipers buy bright orange). |
Posted By: Commander_Cool
Date Posted: 26 May 2007 at 11:58pm
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Who has agreed with you yet? ------------- 2005 Freestyle Naughty Dawg Freestyle Angel LCD SP-8 Tippmann 98 Custom |
Posted By: 3442
Date Posted: 27 May 2007 at 12:06am
Common, he was finaly shutting up lol thinking people do agree when two posts above him or so thiers a post saying his logic is flawed. ------------- Frank |
Posted By: KillerKid1
Date Posted: 29 May 2007 at 12:16pm
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back to the real discussion those guns are pretty cool i really like the scope on the ion is the offset mount invisible or is it the bad cammera angle ------------- The killer kids |
Posted By: lester98c
Date Posted: 29 May 2007 at 10:32pm
its a shocker, and yeah its invisable. |
Posted By: karll
Date Posted: 30 May 2007 at 1:15am
I think he meant in your post with the Sniper and Ion in the same pic. ------------- PlentifulBalls "It's cool, I'll be dead before I'm not pretty." Gatyr "Stupid things exist."
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Posted By: mamasboi
Date Posted: 30 May 2007 at 2:33am
me |