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Topic: Radar Detectors
Posted By: WGP guy2
Subject: Radar Detectors
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 10:13am
So, who uses a radar detector in their car?  If you do, have you ever gotten pulled over for speeding and been scorned for having one?

I recently put one in my car in a fairly hidden spot, it is directly above my rear view mirror, and basically blends in.  In time I want to open the thing up, and place just the sensor somewhere hidden, such as actually on the front side of my mirror, and then just wire it under the upholstrey and have the controls and display in the dash.



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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 10:16am
I always use one in my plane. 

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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 10:17am
My friend has one in his Camaro and it's worked flawlessly on several occasions, especially while going through town. As far as I know, he's never been pulled over.

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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 10:20am

I would get one, but since I'm lookin for a Wrangler and I have intentions to speed in one of those, it would be pointless.



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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 10:26am

I just drive too fast to get pulled over in the first place so I can't get gigged for having one.



Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 11:03am
I used to have a couple. In fact, it was my first purchase after getting my license.

Back in the day, it saved my butt many a times.

I did not use the suction cup mounts provided with it. Used velcro on the dash. So if I passed a cop, or had one near/behind me... I'd simply grab it and drop it to the floor.

I have been pulled over with it, but because I removed it prior to pulling to the side of the road, it was never an issue... since as far as the cop was concerned, it didn't exist.


I still have a radar/laser detector somewhere.
I haven't used it in years, for two reasons:

1. I live in Virginia, and daily commute thru DC, where they are illegal.
2. Most places I drive thru (only exception being NJ) use Laser now. Making the detector worthless.

Most of my highway driving takes me from VA to NJ. Ever since cops in MD/DE started using laser, I've ditched the detector altogether. The only good a laser detector does... is inform you you've already been tagged and should start pulling over. It does not provide a "warning" like radar did. When the beam hits the detector, you're already done.
NJ State Police still use radar, so it'd probably still be effective there... but not worth the effort.

I rely on my eyes to warn me of speedtraps. And thus far, I've been relatively effective in knowing where the spots are.


If you want a hidden one, and are not concerned with RDDs (most detectors claim VG-2 proof, but most agencies are now using Spectre)... look for a "remote" detector.

The first radar detector I bought... you would hardwire the receiver into the front grill of the car, and then hardwire the warning display anywhere you wanted inside your car. Pretty neat system, but only effective for radar coming from in front of you. It was replaced within a year, and for a while, I would upgrade my detector every two years to keep up with the technology.
Not any more. Even my dad, who would get my hand-me-down detectors as I upgraded, has decided not to use them anymore.

I still typically cruise in the 75-85mph range on a daily basis, traffic permitting. But take my chances without the detector.


Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 11:47am
Dude, you're going to regret relying on a radar detector around here. Even down here in sanford almost all the cops are using laser now, so the radar is really only going to pick up industrial signals. 

Laser/Radar detectors are pretty useless anyways.  By the time it can pick up the signal, they could already be gunning you.


I'd really like to set up some radar/laser jammers on my car, but they are like 450 bucks(from the limited browsing I've done.) for just the front of your car, and you'd need 6 additional projection nodes at about 85 bucks a pop to protect the rest of your car.


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Posted By: WGP guy2
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 11:53am
Yea USAF, my dad is a retired cop (Durham) and I'm well aware that this thing (which I just took out of my dad's glove compartment) won't do much to help me avoid getting caught.  Still is pretty awesome to have voice in your car that says "LASER" or "K BAND", even if it doesn't do much.


Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 12:02pm

I got one as a present and used it for a while. As far as I know detectors arent illegal here, and if I ever get pulled over for anything I'm already screwed anyways considering my record, so I'm not to worried. I didn't feel like it worked well enough to actually save my butt in most situations. The state police almost never set it off unless they were sitting on the highway(and the highway guys might even use different bands) for long periods of time. Usuaully they seem to leave it off and just zap people who look like their hauling ass, and I haven't yet hauled ass by one to see if he lights me up. It's supposed to be RDD proof against spectre, and the RDD detector has gone off a few times. I also goes off for dunkin donuts and large a few shop garages.

With the tactics they use around here, if they're  trying to get me they will, detector or not. They'll stand behind a tree with a gun and radio and have another car up the road and dont always have it on. The only situation I find it really usefull in is when ones sneaks up behind me in traffic on the highway. I feel I need the port for my cell phone charger more than for the detector, so it stays in the glovebox. They're a good for providing intell on the road around you, but probably aren't going to save you from cops that are trying to get you. If they're just sitting there with their radar on, they're usually in the open just trying to get people to watch their speed. When they want to actually write tickets, which is when I'm likely to get one, they aren't ignorant of detectors in their planning. Get one if you want a heads-up, but realize it's a radar detector and not a cop detector.



Posted By: stick_boy_2002
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 1:01pm
ive got one, havent had it for about a week because i left it in my sisteres truck. i think it works pretty good.

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Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 1:13pm
The cops around my place are definitly getting harder to beat.  The spots to hide around here are amazing, you'll never see em 'till its too late (makes for a lot of slow and go type driving).  Also, I think the department from a town next to mine recently picked up a dodge charger for unmarked pullovers.  There is really no way you could tell its a cop car.  Everywhere theres lights, its pretty well concealed (blacked out grill, heavy tints all around) and theres no large radio wires.  Ive seen so many pullovers by this car within the past week, its crazy.

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Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 1:16pm
I used to have a Escort 8500x and it worked great. As for all you laser nay-sayers it picked up on that as well. It really all depends on what brand you buy. Cobra sucks, I don't care what 'success' stories you have. Just go to Google and type in Radar Detector Tests and you will see what I'm talking about. Whistlers are decent if you just want radar protection.

If you want a legal laser 'deflector' you can spring for the Lidatek system. There is no display on the unit, the only warning you can see is that your E-brake light will flash when you are hit with laser. What it does is rather than jamming the signal, it just sends it off in a different direction than it came from. One of my fellow installers put it on a guys Ferrari because the guy wanted to go over 180MPH. We didn't know if he'd actually find a stretch of road to accomplish this but a week later he came back in with a picture of his speedometer going 186MPH.

Or you can get Escorts ZR3+Shifters and be fully protected in the same way you would with the Lidatek system, but this would also protect you against radar.


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Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 1:32pm
I wouldn't waste your money, if a cop wants to actually pull someone over he won't just leave his Radar on for someone to pickup a mile away, and then besides getting hit by grocery store doors and all the other false alarms I enjoy driving without some random machine screaming at me every few minutes for what usually turns out to be nothing. And with Laser by the time you're hit you're most likely screwed anyways.


Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 1:56pm
Originally posted by Snipa69 Snipa69 wrote:

As for all you laser nay-sayers it picked up on that as well.
Oh my detector picked up on it... but think about what the laser system is. It's a point-sight device. It's only on when a cop is viewing you thru a magnified scope with crosshairs built into the device. So essentially... if your detector registers it, a cop is already staring you down.

I never, ever, considered a jamming system of any kind. To me, a system such as that would almost guarantee a set of flashing lights in your rearview. When I'm driving my fastest, I'm all alone on the road... I don't drive within the pack, I go out of my way to break away from any cluster of vehicles. So if Smokey all of a sudden has his equipment blip out, just as lonely ol' me drives by... guess who probably isn't getting any leniency?

Was never willing to shell out for a new Escort. Had a couple Bels that I was happy with. I think towards the end of my RD-career, I was just going with Whistlers. Not quite as good as Bels, but as time went on, was less and less willing to shell out big bucks.


Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 2:08pm
I find it much easier to just not speed. 


Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 2:09pm
Never used a radar detector, never pulled over for speeding. Been driving with a license for 5 years now.

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Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 2:18pm
Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

I find it much easier to just not speed. 

No, that's too hard!

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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 2:19pm

After working at a hospital a few months, I've slowed down a little. I've seen too many dead bodies.



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Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 2:30pm
Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

I find it much easier to just not speed.
There are times when I wish I could do that. I just can't help myself.


Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:

After working at a hospital a few months, I've slowed down a little. I've seen too many dead bodies.
Those are probably the people hogging the left lane that wouldn't yield to me.


Posted By: barn_user
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 2:57pm
I'm glad I live a small town of 2,000 where our cops really could care less. Honestly if I know who is on duty I can get away with speeding quite easily.


Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 3:25pm
Originally posted by ShortyBP ShortyBP wrote:

Originally posted by Snipa69 Snipa69 wrote:

As for all you laser nay-sayers it picked up on that as well.
Oh my detector picked up on it... but think about what the laser system is. It's a point-sight device. It's only on when a cop is viewing you thru a magnified scope with crosshairs built into the device. So essentially... if your detector registers it, a cop is already staring you down.

I never, ever, considered a jamming system of any kind. To me, a system such as that would almost guarantee a set of flashing lights in your rearview. When I'm driving my fastest, I'm all alone on the road... I don't drive within the pack, I go out of my way to break away from any cluster of vehicles. So if Smokey all of a sudden has his equipment blip out, just as lonely ol' me drives by... guess who probably isn't getting any leniency?

Was never willing to shell out for a new Escort. Had a couple Bels that I was happy with. I think towards the end of my RD-career, I was just going with Whistlers. Not quite as good as Bels, but as time went on, was less and less willing to shell out big bucks.


Oh I know what a laser system is. My comment was geared towards those who claim that even if they have a radar/LASER detector that it wouldn't work regardless. Yes, if you get nailed with that your best option is to duck and hide (that's what I always told customers who asked me about it) but even that can come in handy.

I wouldn't by a jammer either. It's just too risky. But a deflector... that's a different story. Up here, the bottom line is if the officer can't produce a radar/laser gun with a signal uppon request from the driver, he/she cannot issue you a speeding ticket. Sure the officer will probably hassle the hekc out of you just because but it's better than higher insurance and a $200+ ticket.


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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 3:33pm
You could just buy a gun and go crazy when you get pulled over.

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Posted By: Uncle Rudder
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 3:36pm

I use a Zodiac II (by PNI I believe) and for the price, $80, I love it

It does pick up a lot of interferance but I've gotten use to how to figure out what is real and what isn't.  Plus it never hurts to do a double heads up when it goes off.  It has saved me from alteast 8 tickets (all 15+ over the limit) but it won't do a damn bit of good on the freeway.  But cops on the free are ususally very easy to spot as it is. 

 



Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 9:23pm
Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

I find it much easier to just not speed.


That's my weapon of choice as well.

No one needs radar detection around here anyway...the state cops can use radar, but the townies still use VASCAR.


Posted By: the_blade
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 11:36pm
i have a radar jammer its kind of funny. it jams my radio cell phones and pretty much everything.

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Posted By: DGAFmuffinZ
Date Posted: 09 June 2007 at 11:57am
Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

You could just buy a gun and go crazy when you get pulled over.


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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 09 June 2007 at 12:28pm
Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

I find it much easier to just not speed.š


Agreed.

I speed only on roads that I've NEVER seen a cop on (mainly the dirt roads right near my house).

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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 09 June 2007 at 12:45pm

im not really up to date on cop tech....

but if you get a cb radio can you still hear where they are and where they're going to be responding to?

obviously has nothing to do with speeding, but like in fast and the furious where they had the street drags set up and they listened for when the cops were coming



Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 09 June 2007 at 12:48pm
Originally posted by Bunkered Bunkered wrote:

Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

I find it much easier to just not speed.š


Agreed.

I speed only on roads that I've NEVER seen a cop on (mainly the dirt roads right near my house).


I only speed on highways/interstates, when it is necessary to keep up with the flow of traffic. That I don't mind.

I almost never speed on smaller roads, and I absolutely won't speed in residential areas, despite often being tailgated for doing so.


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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 09 June 2007 at 12:52pm
Originally posted by GI JOES SON GI JOES SON wrote:

im not really up to date on cop tech....

but if you get a cb radio can you still hear where they are and where they're going to be responding to?

obviously has nothing to do with speeding, but like in fast and the furious where they had the street drags set up and they listened for when the cops were coming


I am guessing not.

I had a CB in my Jeep for a few years and I never once heard police chatter.

I also own a specialized police scanner, thats what I hear the police on. It is nifty.


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Posted By: Uncle Rudder
Date Posted: 09 June 2007 at 12:54pm
Originally posted by GI JOES SON GI JOES SON wrote:

im not really up to date on cop tech....

but if you get a cb radio can you still hear where they are and where they're going to be responding to?

obviously has nothing to do with speeding, but like in fast and the furious where they had the street drags set up and they listened for when the cops were coming

It would work but a lot of the city, espcailly ones that have some $$$, have encoded system that you can't listen to.  They also use cell phones a lot.  IU have a police scanner and listen to it all the time, sometimes, very rare, they will say twhere they are going to be radaring at. 

Of all the cities around me 3 of them use the fancy system that I can't listen to and 5 use the old system that you can hear. 

To be abe to understand what the cops are saying takes a good deal of time, or atleast for me it did.  They talk fast too.

 



Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 09 June 2007 at 1:03pm
Originally posted by Uncle Rudder Uncle Rudder wrote:

It would work but a lot of the city, espcailly ones that have some $$$, have encoded system that you can't listen to.  They also use cell phones a lot.  IU have a police scanner and listen to it all the time, sometimes, very rare, they will say twhere they are going to be radaring at. 

Of all the cities around me 3 of them use the fancy system that I can't listen to and 5 use the old system that you can hear. 

To be abe to understand what the cops are saying takes a good deal of time, or atleast for me it did.  They talk fast too.

 



Yeah, I can still hear campus police and sometimes Orange County on mine, the problem is it only picks up when they use their radios. Far too often now a days they are using cellphones.

I don't really use it for trying to save myself from a ticket, I use it mostly for journalistic, story-finding methods.

Heh. I have a list of police codes taped to the top of the scanner. It takes some serious effort to learn what the heck they are saying.




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Posted By: blackdog144
Date Posted: 09 June 2007 at 1:15pm
since my dads a cop he wont let me get one...so if i get pulled over for speeding it will teach me a lesson or something like that...

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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 09 June 2007 at 2:09pm
Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:


Originally posted by Bunkered Bunkered wrote:

Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

I find it much easier to just not speed.š


Agreed.

I speed only on roads that I've NEVER seen a cop on (mainly the dirt roads right near my house).
I only speed on highways/interstates, when it is necessary to keep up with the flow of traffic. That I don't mind. I almost never speed on smaller roads, and I absolutely won't speed in residential areas, despite often being tailgated for doing so.


On the expressway I have no problem doing 75-85 (speed limit is 70 in most places here), but other than that the only real speeding I do is maybe 35 in a 25 because almost no one goes 25 down the dirt roads around here, and the cops don't like to get their cruisers dirty so they mainly stick to the pavement.
It also helps that I have a grandpa car (Grand Marquis), and it doesn't draw much attention. I've only been pulled over once in the 3.5 years I've been driving, and that was for something other than driving poorly.

I just don't really see how saving 2-3 minutes total on a drive is worth risking a speeding ticket.


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Posted By: WGP guy2
Date Posted: 09 June 2007 at 2:38pm
I don't speed on anything with a speed limit less than 45 mph.  On roads 45-55 mph, I'll only do it to keep up with traffic.  On freeways (or any stretch of road with on/off ramps) I'll do a max of 15 over with speed limits from 55 to 65.  On the interstates, I'll do a max 20 over if that is the speed of the traffic (which it usually is), but prefer to keep it under 15 over.

Also, with the line of work my mom is in, she has a transciever with can pick up (and transmit) on police, fire, and ambulance frequencies.


Posted By: Uncle Rudder
Date Posted: 09 June 2007 at 5:29pm

Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

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I don't really use it for trying to save myself from a ticket, I use it mostly for journalistic, story-finding methods. 



I've never used mine to try and save myself from a ticket, I use it mainly for entertainment when I'm at home.  Since I've gotten it tehre have been 3 high speed persuits, 1 of which went past my house.  As well as my friend's girlfriend ran her car into a parked cop car.  I laughed.

 



Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 10 June 2007 at 6:51pm
Originally posted by Snipa69 Snipa69 wrote:

I used to have a Escort 8500x and it worked great. As for all you laser nay-sayers it picked up on that as well. It really all depends on what brand you buy. Cobra sucks, I don't care what 'success' stories you have. Just go to Google and type in Radar Detector Tests and you will see what I'm talking about. Whistlers are decent if you just want radar protection.

If you want a legal laser 'deflector' you can spring for the Lidatek system. There is no display on the unit, the only warning you can see is that your E-brake light will flash when you are hit with laser. What it does is rather than jamming the signal, it just sends it off in a different direction than it came from. One of my fellow installers put it on a guys Ferrari because the guy wanted to go over 180MPH. We didn't know if he'd actually find a stretch of road to accomplish this but a week later he came back in with a picture of his speedometer going 186MPH.

Or you can get Escorts ZR3+Shifters and be fully protected in the same way you would with the Lidatek system, but this would also protect you against radar.

Ah, somebody quite knowledgeable. I have a passport 8500 X50 too, and it works wonders. Almost all of the cops here use Ka, and grocery store doors tend to be X/K so the detector is quite useful. Occasionally I get a laser by an FHP on the highway, but it's very rare. If I start to pick up more lasers, I may invest in the Passport Zr3 which can connect to my radar detector. That would jam all laser and help me detect all radar.

A Valentine V1 would be nice, but 400 bucks for a radar detector is a lot of money.


Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 11 June 2007 at 4:16pm
Originally posted by Uncle Rudder Uncle Rudder wrote:

Originally posted by GI JOES SON GI JOES SON wrote:


im not really up to date on cop tech....


but if you get a cb radio can you still hear where they are and where they're going to be responding to?


obviously has nothing to do with speeding, but like in fast and the furious where they had the street drags set up and they listened for when the cops were coming



It would work but a lot of the city, espcailly ones that have some $$$, have encoded system that you can't listen to. They also use cell phones a lot. IU have a police scanner and listen to it all the time, sometimes, very rare, they will say twhere they are going to be radaring at.


Of all the cities around me 3 of them use the fancy system that I can't listen to and 5 use the old system that you can hear.


To be abe to understand what the cops are saying takes a good deal of time, or atleast for me it did. They talk fast too.




CB radios use an entirely different spectrum of the band than EMS channels.


Posted By: Project Irene
Date Posted: 11 June 2007 at 5:45pm
I have a whistler 1765.  Works alright, only have one ticket so far 


Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 11 June 2007 at 6:14pm
Originally posted by Sammy Sammy wrote:


A Valentine V1 would be nice, but 400 bucks for a radar detector is a lot of money.


My dad's had a couple Valentines, and he likes them. He's also rather crazy behind the wheel.

I speed reasonably, largely because I drive what's fairly comparable to a five-door washing machine. I also know where not to speed around here.


Posted By: hoginds24
Date Posted: 11 June 2007 at 7:15pm
I bought mine for $150 and it has already paid itself off... what caI say, I have a lead foot.


Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 11 June 2007 at 10:31pm
I have a few friends who really rely on them.  It really sucks when you can't drive 90 down a non-busy freeway. 


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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 12 June 2007 at 11:00am
90? Pfft.

I borrowed a radar detector for the last trip I took up north. It was supposed to be a 3 hour drive, but I made it in under 2 hours.
What can I say? There was no one on I-75, and I was cruising at 100-115 for most of the trip. Land Yacht + air ride suspension = pwnz0rz.

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