You should read this
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Topic: You should read this
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Subject: You should read this
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 6:22am
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http://www.vaniercollege.qc.ca/Auxiliary/Psychology/Frank/Thirdwave.html - http://www.vaniercollege.qc.ca/Auxiliary/Psychology/Frank/Th irdwave.html
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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 8:10am
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I'm not surprised at all about what happened. It's easy to see such mentalities in schools, even outside such an experiment. At least most of these kids now understand what it was like to be a German during WWII. On a related note:  ------------- 
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Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 9:46am
I read the book. Interesting stuff. I want to try that at my school. ------------- Hey MPAA, Guess what? 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0! |
Enos Shenk wrote:Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 10:02am
| The Wave was required reading in one of my high school classes. Definitely a worthwhile read despite that it's meant for younger readers. I hope that if I can successfully land a job teaching I'll have the freedom to play mind games with students on such a scale. |
Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 12:09pm
| I would have liked it better had it been more realistic. |
Posted By: whack-a-mole
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 12:36pm
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That's some pretty interesting/weird stuff. ------------- NASA and the Americans spent millions of dollars and hundreds of hours to develop a pen that would write in space.....The Russians used a pencil. |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 1:36pm
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Extremely interesting study of how people work....People think what happened in Germany was so strange, but anyone who really looks into it knows that it could very easily happen again, anytime and anywhere. I got a similar impression from the movie "Conspiracy", which was based off of the actual minutes of the meeting in which Nazi officials planned the holocaust. It stuck me how normal and logical the procedings were, given just a single assumption: Jews are either an evil force or simply less than human and are a problem to be dealt with. If you take that statement as truth, as those men in Germany did, all else follows rationally and and naturally and doesn't seem wrong....The real lesson here, I think, is that the emergence of Hitler or someone like him doesn't need an evil barbarous population to support it, but just a population which isn't on guard against our basest instincts as humans and is subject to the conditions which put those students into that dangerous situation..... Oh btw, wasn't there a movie based on this? -------------  |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 1:48pm
| Das Experiment= amazing movie. it starts out as a psychological study that hires some peopel e to be jail guards and others to be the prisoners. then everyone starts freaking out. |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 2:58pm
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Just found the movie online. Not bad, I would imagine that the book is better, but it makes its point. Groupthink is a scary thing....
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Posted By: Hitman
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 3:03pm
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Thank you very much.
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Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 4:47pm
Thanks for the read Enos, people scare me. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 4:49pm
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Got about halfway through.
Can we get tl/dr for the rest? ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 5:58pm
| I'm really, really surprised that only took a week. It almost makes me skeptical, because I just can't imagine myself, or many people I know, going along with something like that in class. I know it's different when you're there, but I'm baffled no-one caught the parallels... |
Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 7:03pm
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Interesting. I wonder how that experiment would work in a high school now. You guys think the result would be the same? I think parents would flip out and start trying to sue the school. I don't think many of the kids would buy into it either, everybody wants to do their own thing. ------------- oreomann33: Everybody invades Poland Rofl_Mao: And everyone eats turkey Me: But only if they're hungary Mack: Yeah but hungary people go russian through their food and end up with greece on everyth |
Posted By: TheSpookyKids87
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 7:21pm
Yeah, the whole one week thing makes me skeptical as well. |
Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 24 June 2007 at 11:59am
Don't forget the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment - Stanford Prison Experiment got so bad that they shut the project down after only six days. While it was an entirely different set of circumstances, it showed that radical change could occur in a very short period of time. |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 24 June 2007 at 3:44pm
Well, from what I've read, it actually happened in Palo Alto, California...Who knows though...Snopes has nothing on it... ------------- |
Posted By: MT. Vigilante
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 11:09am
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