Paintball trajectory?
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Topic: Paintball trajectory?
Posted By: jblaze
Subject: Paintball trajectory?
Date Posted: 06 July 2007 at 12:26am
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Now I understand the concept of how a paintball is shot out of a marker....a ball is in the chamber, a burst f air/co2 or whatever it is that you use for your marker.
That being said...why does the paintball lob? Last I shot a Daisy BB gun...I'm sure I could've hit a target twice as far (minimal lobbing?)than I could with a paintball marker. So, why doesnt the paintball fly as far and as accurate as a BB gun? 1 the BB's are more consistantly round? BB's use more force to shoot out? Since paintballs are breakable it could only withstand a certain amount of pressure without breaking from the air bursts?
Ionno, it's late and I was just wondering. Anyone with thoughts or facts would be help.
thanks
jb
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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 06 July 2007 at 12:53am
BB's dont compress or have sloshy stuff on the inside to make them less accurate.
BB's are smaller = less wind resistance per weight.
BB's are shot at a higher fps than paintballs(sometimes).
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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 06 July 2007 at 1:25pm
this is def in the wrong forum.
Over a greater distance, the BB will eventually lob off. Based on its mass, the BB leaves the barrel with more inertia than a paintball. You also don't have to worry about a BB breaking in your barrel if you overpower it.
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 06 July 2007 at 2:17pm
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It is common sense that everything is going to lob. If you take a BB the size of a paintball and shoot it out the barrel at the same velocity as a paintball, it will lob too. Even bullets lob over a distance. There is this amazing thing called gravity that pulls everything down to the earth's surface.
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Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 07 July 2007 at 4:53pm
Well answered everyone 
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Posted By: Gunchicken
Date Posted: 07 July 2007 at 5:39pm
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you can shoot a BB twice as fast as you can shoot a paintball, but just like a paintball a BB will curve when shot to fast (over 600fps) because it is very light wieght and is round. Thats why they made pellets . that can be shot over 1,200fps without curving, but all bullets, pellets, BBs, or whatever you want to call them will lob, unless you were in space then it wont lob.
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Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 07 July 2007 at 7:55pm
Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 08 July 2007 at 1:18pm
well now, if you want to discuss the physics of a paintball in space, then we could have some fun with that.
I mean, there are hundreds of gravitational forces out in space. Many anomalies as well.
Do you think if you fired 2 paintballs at the same speed out of something like a Typhoon, they would eventually orbit each other?
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 08 July 2007 at 2:49pm
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Paintball physics quiz!!
Lock down a bb gun and a paintball gun right next to each other. Both guns pointed in the same direction, both guns exactly horizontal, both guns at the same elevation. No Flatlines, Hopups, or other funny barrels. The guns are pointed across a perfectly flat surface.
Now fire both guns simultaneously. Which will hit the ground first - the paintball or the bb?
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 08 July 2007 at 3:37pm
Theoretically they should both hit the ground at the same time. But because of wind resistance, the paintball will hit the ground first.
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 08 July 2007 at 5:11pm
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In a vacuum they would hit at the same time, but should not air resistance make the bb hit first... hmm?
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 08 July 2007 at 6:39pm
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The air resistence is so little compared to the BBs weight, that in a regular (no wind at all) day, the BB will travel further. Are the BB and paintball traveling at the same speed?
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Posted By: Gunchicken
Date Posted: 08 July 2007 at 10:14pm
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shot at the same velocity a BB will go farther because of the less wind resistance, i think.
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 09 July 2007 at 1:25am
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You guys are answering the wrong question. Clearly the bb will go further - mostly because bb's mostly are shot at higher velocities than paintballs, but also due to less air resistance relative to mass.
But the question is which will hit the ground first, not which will travel further...
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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 09 July 2007 at 1:28am
Clark Kent wrote:
You guys are answering the wrong question. Clearly the bb will go further - mostly because bb's mostly are shot at higher velocities than paintballs, but also due to less air resistance relative to mass.
But the question is which will hit the ground first, not which will travel further... |
No matter what fps they would hit the ground at the same time assuming no flatline or hop up. Also no spin.
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 09 July 2007 at 3:01am
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Hit the ground at the same time because the gravity on both of the objects are the same.
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 15 July 2007 at 2:22am
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Bump to see if I answered Clark's question correctly.
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Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 15 July 2007 at 10:16pm
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You did - in a vacuum. Close enough.
In reality, I suspect the bb hits first, because the paintball faces a lot more air resistance to counter gravity.
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Posted By: A-5Mitch
Date Posted: 16 July 2007 at 3:09pm
Actually my A-5 with a normal 265fps shooting a paintball from my Lapco bigshot shoots the paintball further than my Grandpa's brandnew Daisy lever action bb gun. And the bb's are supposed to be traveling at 350fps. And the paintball hit's the ground after the bb does.
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Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 19 July 2007 at 11:16pm
Most likely due to what Susan described. The factors that are important are gravity (greater mass = greater downward acceleration) and the wind resistance. You basically just take the difference of these two forces for each object since they are pushing in opposite directions and that will tell you which is going to hit first.
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Posted By: netramakin
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 4:47pm
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Gunchicken wrote:
unless you were in space then it wont lob. |
Paintball in space...wow. No Flatlines/Apex's needed! Who's game? I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.
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Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:37pm
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mod98commando wrote:
The factors that are important are gravity (greater mass = greater downward acceleration) and the wind resistance. |
You misstated that a little bit. Gravity causes the same accelleration for all objects, regardless of mass. On the moon, a bowling ball and a feather will fall at the same rate.
But greater mass does allow an object to better overcome air resistance, which is why heavier objects often fall faster.
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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 5:55pm
In a vaccuum, all objects fall at a constant rate, which is proportional to the gravity in the area. However with air resistance factored in, an object can only fall at its terminal velocity, or slower.
sooooo.....
Since the BB has a similar mass to a paintball, but is much smaller, that means it is more dense, therefor it should hit the ground before the paintball.
Really as soon as each on leaves the barrel it begins falling. The real question you should ask is, if you fire a paintball out of a gun with no mods, and drop a paintball from the same height at the same instant, which will hit the ground first?
The answer is that they will hit the ground at the same time. Even though the fired paintball has lateral movement, it is still pulled down by gravity at the same rate as the dropped paintball.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 11:28pm
netramakin wrote:
Gunchicken wrote:
unless you were in space then it wont lob. |
Paintball in space...wow. No Flatlines/Apex's needed! Who's game? I'll see you on the dark side of the moon. |
Actually, it wouldnt work. Paintballs spin coming out of the barrel regardless of how fast. Without proper gravitational force, the spin would make the ball do a loop.
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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 11:59pm
actually, in space there is no air to act upon the spin, so it would still go straight.
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 27 July 2007 at 1:02pm
The Guy wrote:
actually, in space there is no air to act upon the spin, so it would still go straight. | He speaks the truth. The spin has to have some type of friction in order to have any affect on the ball.
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