Damn drunk drivers
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Topic: Damn drunk drivers
Posted By: impulse!
Subject: Damn drunk drivers
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 3:42am
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Well I thought I was going to die tonight. So were at party, my ride left without me knowing. So I was asking who was sober who could give me and my friend a ride. One kid said he would and I was down to give him gas money. So he agreed and we proceed and I tell him "Hey don't speed I can't get another m.i.c. (minor in consumption). He says “I have never been in a car wreck". So we pull on to a major road and he takes off (it’s a civic and he thinks it's a F1 because of the turbo he has). So i'm crammed in the back of this civic and were doing 70 in a 40 approaching the freeway. He does a 90 degree turn going 50; tires are squealing and were off. He turns down the music and announces he is not sober but wanted to drive because he was bored. We get on US-50 doing about 90 in a 65. We approach an onramp that merges on to Interstate 10. Were doing now 100mph and the speed advisory is 40 mph. Doing 100mph isn't bad enough alone at 2am but passes a car on the shoulder while on the onramp. We successfully pass the car with minor horn blasts from the car and proceed down I-10. We hit 120mph for about 5 miles with his fart can exhaust that can be heard miles away. He pulls off on my exit and says “were stopping at I have ridden with crazy drivers but not this crazy. I was honestly in fear of my life. Especially in a Honda Civic. I now know to trust anyone other then my good friends to drive me home. (We ALWAYS have a DD for the night). Sorry for the multiple paragraphs but I thought it would be better to have to many then not enough. Share your stories if you have any.
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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 3:47am
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I hate being driven around by drunk drivers. It's freaking nerve racking.
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Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 4:49am
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I vote you for most likely to die of everyone on this forum ------------- 
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 9:03am
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civics have horrible high-speed crash ratings. A good friend of mine was killed by a head on collision going 50mph in a civic. Completely demolished his ride. It was a bad deal. So the impact speed was about 50 and 50mph. So that's about equal to 100mph, with TWO crumple zones. Just think what would have happened at 120mph hitting something that wasn't so gentle than another car. I hate kids like that. Showing off in their "upped" cars and driving insanely bad. and i've said it before and i'll say it again... FWD Sucks. ------------- X |
Posted By: BooksAndLeaves
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 9:15am
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GOD.... I HATE my friend's RETARDED ASS CIVIC!!!!!! god he thinks it's so leet with its GIANT EXHAUST it is obnoxious as hell. I wish this forum allowed more obscenities... i HATE IT and recently, to make his old ass civic even more ghetto fab... he bought this "system" of like two woofers in a box... his car sounds like 10,000 rattle snakes and it doesn't even sound better... it is CONSTANTLY droning some weird bassy tone even when the stereo is off... so when you're in his car your voice is drowned out my his BLANKING EXHAUST and STUPID ASS "SYSTEM" GOD I HATE IIIITTTT!!!!!!!! ------------- 01001001 00100000 01100111 01101111 01110100 00100000 01100011 01100001 01110101 01100111 01101000 01110100 00101110 00101110 00101110 |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 10:01am
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Dear god. I'm sorry you had to experience that.
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 10:15am
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Cedric wrote:Posted By: ultimatetrooper
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 3:54pm
lol @ the kids crappy system BAL posted. Prolly went to best buy.  I have a fairly nice truck but I never get wasted and drive it. Far too much money and pride into it to possible lose it. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 4:27pm
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Stupid POS jap cars. ------------- 
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 4:39pm
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/Buick Man, I take pride in my car. I think if more people truely cared for their vehicles, they wouldn't be acting like that. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 4:45pm
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^^^the problem with todays "tuners" are all they want is a nice car to attract woman. The pride is non-existent. You can tell, too, because they put on tacky "mods" such as stupid body kits, wings, and fart mufflers, which i refer to as Goatse mufflers, because it honestly reminds me of goatse. Just imagine that. Every single fart muffler, seeing goatse.... I hate them.
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 4:51pm
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Since when are women attracted to crappy ricers?
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 4:51pm
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lol @ "we're stopping at del taco" and fart can exhaust. I dont mind ricers that much until they get the loud exhaust and drive like jackasses. ------------- 
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 5:15pm
100 MPH is MONSTER closing speed. It's downright ordinary for a car to be in little pieces after something like that. They're lucky no one was seriously hurt... As for the "FWD sucks" comment, I have a 4-door front wheel drive that's likely to outperform (in every category) whatever you're driving... AND it's fantastic in snow and ice. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 5:25pm
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Seriously - "FWD sucks" is only true if you are a dragracer. For most real driving, front wheel drive is excellent stuff. |
Posted By: impulse!
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 5:45pm
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FWD's push. -------------
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 5:47pm
Ummm... No... 
RWD's push. FWD's pull. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: chronic future
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 5:49pm
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FWD > * glad you didnt crash tho, if done right, turbo'd civics can put down some power |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 5:51pm
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Boo, idiots.
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Posted By: impulse!
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 5:51pm
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" Understeer" -------------
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 6:19pm
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glad to hear your ok...crazy crap man, drunk drivers are nuts |
Posted By: ANARCHY_SCOUT
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 6:33pm
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 6:35pm
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Yay beer! ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 6:36pm
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i think its appropraite, only bc in the red stripe commercials they explicitly tell you to take the other guys pants if they dont give you the keys. so by all means, HOORAY BEER! |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 6:47pm
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AWD FTW ------------- 
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Posted By: holysmartone
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 8:10pm
4WD >* |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 8:21pm
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Civics can be modded to have power. Thats true. But at the end of the day, its still a modded Civic.
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Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 8:30pm
Explain to me the difference please. ------------- <Removed sig for violation of Clause 4 of the New Sig Rules> 
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Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 8:45pm
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AWD is like a Subaru. All four tires drive, all of the time. Not necessarily equal power, but some of the engine's power is distributed all tires.
4WD is what you have in most pickup trucks. It is part time. Under normal circumstances only the rear (typical) or only the front tires (in small SUV's, like the Toyota RAV4) drive the car. When you need the grip, the passive wheels automatically engage, by computer control, or manually engage with a 4WD button or lever, again, depending on the car. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 9:35pm
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Posted By: holysmartone
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 11:06pm
Also, AWD is usually better because it automatically distributes the engines power to the tire that needs it the most. So it will give more power to the tire that isnt spinning, and less power to a tire that has no traction and is freely spinning. 4WD on the other hand, usually just equally distributes the power to all 4 tires. That can cause problems if you have one tire sitting in lots of mud and it just spins and digs itself in deeper. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 11:13pm
The ones that adjust on corners too is pretty neat, just stick to the road. |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 11:17pm
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FWD is good for non-performance driving, due to the "pulling" action. Keeps the wheels easier to control for a straight line. But for any kind of racing with turns, it's best to have power to the rear wheels, whether its' awd or rwd. Physics have everything to do with it, and i'm not the best at explaining it. I guess look up "understeer" if you really want to know. But to sum it all up, your front wheels/tires have only so much kinetic energy. think about this. Going out of a turn, they have to steer and accelerate. This means the tires can lose grip at a much lower speed than a rwd car. When you lose grip in a fwd, it usually means you're not going to make the turn. Now, you're probably thinking "but wouldn't awd have the same problem? Theoretically, yes. However in reality, the energy is distributed throughout the 4 wheels, putting less acceleration on the front wheels than in a fwd. Sorry if that didn't make any sense. It's kinda complicated. I'd recommend play some Forza for about a week and experiment with rwd, fwd, and awd. They do a pretty good job simulating it. ME/RWD ftw. Oh, and btw, i wasn't saying your fwd was slow. I'm just saying it's not going to handle that great. ------------- X |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 11:21pm
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4x4 > AWD
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Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 11:52pm
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I lol'ed at "fart can." But yeah, sucks you ended up having to ride with him. One of my friends just got a used 05' Civic and he loves to speed all the time. One time he was driving drunk and ended up on the wrong side of the highway driving in on-coming traffic. Somehow he is still alive. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 12:34am
4WD doesn't always have all 4 going unless you have it engaged. I think you have them mixed up.Usually AWD is only 2WD until once slips then it kicks in. -------------
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Posted By: holysmartone
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 12:37am
No. AWD is just that. Power is constantly distributed through all 4 tires. But you are correct about the 4WD part. |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 12:38am
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Locked 4x4 > * -------------
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Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 1:02am
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I'll stick with my Quattro.
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 2:15pm
Race me. Seriously. That said, who here is going to race their car in SCCA events or any other kind of driving where you actually need to power slide and / or take corners at the very edge of the car's limits? The physics of track racing are lost on the discussions of buying a car as a daily driver. What is far more important than the tiny bit of cornering performance you lose in extreme circumstances is how well the car does on snow and ice... You said, universally, "FWD sucks". If we were talking about NASCAR, you would have a solid point. But we're talking about daily drivers that need to do well in a variety of driving conditions, very few of them (if any) including competitive performance requiring optimum suspension and drive wheel tuning... You have some solid points. They just don't relate to the discussion at hand. Thereby, I believe a stronger argument has been made that FWD > RWD for the given context. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 2:19pm
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Rally car drivers (and rallycross too) seem to like front-wheel drive ok... But Sandman is right. As between rear- and front-wheel drive, front is FAR superior in terms of real-world driving. That goes double when the surface gets slick. Traction is better, handling is better, control is better. It's not even close, really. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 2:23pm
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I still take RWD over FWD, sure if your city driving FWD is all you need but i live in the boon docks and i love sliding my truck around the dirt roads.
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 2:25pm
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Yes, well, environment is definitely a factor. You wouldn't like RWD so much if you lived in Denver.
We got over 8 feet of snow last season, 3.5 of those feet in a single day on the Friday before Christmas. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 2:29pm
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My grandma had mvoed from here ( Michigan) to Colorado and now back here so im aware of snow and i live in a hilly area so RWD on a icey hill is a beach to make not to mention my trucks 2X4 ...wore come to worse ill drive my dads 4X4 on the bad days.
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 2:31pm
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But what you describe isn't "better" - more fun, sure, but not better. I love turning off the traction control on my RWD car in the winter and fishtailing every turn. Lots of fun. But only on safe isolated roads, driving relatively slowly. At high speed in traffic the fun factor is overwhelmed by safety and control needs. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 2:34pm
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Well yea, like in the winter trying to pull onto a 55 mph main road where the idiots are actually going 55 and sliding right into it is not always fun.
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 2:35pm
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Yeah, the "fun" factor ceases immediately if it's really bad out and you need to get to work...
I'm pretty good at controlling a skid and managing a rear wheel drive in slick conditions, but there's no much you can do when the tires won't grip the road enough to push the car forward. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 2:43pm
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Yea, i live on a private dirt road so we have to manage it so in the mornings to school our road is somewhat downhill so you just slide and you cant stop usually i just let it slid then power slide it sideways and slip onto the road otherwise i would end up plowing into some trees.
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Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 3:05pm
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Ok, so SandMan and Rambino have forced the point of FWD > RWD for all practical causes including inclement weather driving. How about AWD vs FWD with the same set of circumstances? What advantages would FWD hold over it? ------------- <Removed sig for violation of Clause 4 of the New Sig Rules>
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 3:07pm
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In my experiance, AWD > FWD. -------------
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 3:15pm
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Well... Honestly, I was avoding the subject entirely on purpose. So few cars I like are offered in AWD that I don't have much experience with it.
Though I do plan on getting an AWD BMW next year, so I guess I'll find out then. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: BooksAndLeaves
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 3:16pm
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my dog is fwd
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 3:17pm
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Well it depends,if your wanting to have fun and do burnouts and stuff AWD usually sucks cause say your on a dirt road and mash it and all your wheels start spinning the other will kick in and have 4X4.
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Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 3:30pm
You can't have fun in an AWD? I don't see what's NOT fun about being able to take turns at way faster than normal speeds. Being able to handle is a ton of fun. And burnouts are for rednecks in their 90s Firebirds. ------------- <Removed sig for violation of Clause 4 of the New Sig Rules>
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Posted By: holysmartone
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 3:36pm
In most all cases, AWD is better than FWD. Instead of having problems with rearwheel drive and losing traction in your drive wheels because of no weight on the tires, or losing power AND steering while going around a corner too fast with FWD, AWD makes sure that you always have traction and power. If your back tires are spinning, power goes to the front, while if your front wheels are spinning, power is transferred to the rear tires. The neat thing about AWD is that if you have enough power to break loose all 4 tires at the same time, youll just start spinning in a circle. My friend has a Subaru WRX with enough horsepower to break loose all 4 tires at 35 MPH. Its an interesting feeling... |
Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 3:37pm
Lol the guys at school do them in their pick-up trucks and thats includes duallys. -------------
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Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 3:39pm
Thought we were just talking about cars. ------------- <Removed sig for violation of Clause 4 of the New Sig Rules>
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 4:56pm
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In my experience, this depends. Depends on the quality of the computer controls on the AWD system. This may be moot now as these systems are getting pretty good, but back in the day some AWD systems were just atrocious - really just 4WD with some power switching. Bad AWD is the worst of all; Good AWD (IMO) is best of all. Better acceleration, better handing, better safety, better better. I have a largish AWD vehicle that is astonishly good on slick surfaces, and never squeals a tire no matter what I do. On most modern cars I am fully sold on the virtues of AWD. On older cars I would be a little careful. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 6:57pm
Something tells me you aren't too up to date on how most differentials work. Power distribution in most (open) differentials puts power to the wheel that is easiest to turn. A limited slip tries to put power to the tire that's not slipping, and a locker always turns both tires at the same speed. Putting power to the tire that needs it isn't a function of if the vehicle is AWD or xWD, it's a function of either computer control or what's inside the diff case. Part-time 4WD vehicles with a traditional transfer case setup almost always have open differentials (from the factory). With the 4WD engaged, it will turn the front and rear driveshafts at the same speed. |