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Topic: Ask a Staff Sergeant Anything.
Posted By: DBibeau855
Subject: Ask a Staff Sergeant Anything.
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 3:36am
Any questions you have about being deployed, go ahead and ask away.


-edit-

Yeah, im bord and on duty.

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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 3:39am
Why are you trying to recruit over the interwebz? 

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Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 3:39am
Do you ask or tell?

is there anything about your jobs you cant tell us


Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 3:41am
Wait, you are already a Staff Sergeant? I thought you completed basic no more than a few years ago?

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 3:41am
Not trying to recruit, but i can point you in the right direction if you would like to join.

And,

Ive only had one soldier tell me that he was homosexual. I kinda new already, it was pretty obvious, he was a good soldier, but he wanted out so i took him to our first sergeant and commander. Decent guy, just its very very difficult to be a homosexual in the armed forces.

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Posted By: sporx
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 3:43am
what's it like to be on duty?

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 3:44am
Originally posted by Snipa69 Snipa69 wrote:

Wait, you are already a Staff Sergeant? I thought you completed basic no more than a few years ago?


Yep, made specialist, got deployed, the colonel i was under made me a sergeant in kuwait a month in country. After running a 5 man team of HUMINT collectors, i was promoted. I made E6 in Afganistan.

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Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 3:45am
Why do I not remember any of this? What branch?

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 3:45am
Originally posted by sporx sporx wrote:

what's it like to be on duty?


Boring, its a thursday night. No drunkards and everyone is asleep, rather be home in bed.



What branch of the military? Army, but within the army, im Military Inteligance.

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Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 3:48am
When were you deployed? Were you ever stationed in Kandahar?

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Posted By: ANARCHY_SCOUT
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 3:49am
How does it smell there compared to home?

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 3:50am
I cant tell you where in afganistan i was, but in Iraq, i was in Ramadi for a while.


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Posted By: impulse!
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 3:51am
How hard is it to get booze.

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Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 3:52am
Depending on where you were, I wonder if I ever saw you.

I never directly delt with the Intel guys, which is to say I never spoke with them face to face.


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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 3:52am
When did you develop your addiction to lieing on the internet?


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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 3:54am
Originally posted by impulse! impulse! wrote:

How hard is it to get booze.


Two words.

Incentive locker.

I gave out Johnny Walker Red very regularly. That and socker balls. But if you have a humvee thats down, or need a team to provide security or do a block party so you can talk to someone, the insentives locker is a great thing.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 3:57am
Originally posted by Snipa69 Snipa69 wrote:

Depending on where you were, I wonder if I ever saw you.I never directly delt with the Intel guys, which is to say I never spoke with them face to face.


I was one of the ones with ACU pants and a polo shirt. Hadnt shaved in like six weeks, just caried my pistol with me, RARELY carried the M4. My callsign was Gabriel-six.

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Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 3:59am
I dunno if you ever did comm link with the Marines then. At least I don't remember a call sign like that. 

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:03am
The intel marines i hung out with were a GREAT bunch of guys. The gave me a lot of **edited** because i was army, the whole rivalry thing, all in good fun though.

There was one week, we had just gotten showers on the FOB i was at, and we had been getting mortared pretty regularly, well, one of the mortars completely took out our brand new showers, that really ticked off the commander, marines went out and took out like 200 of the suckers.

So, they killed our shower trailer, we killed 200 of them.

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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:05am
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

that really ticked off the commander, marines went out and took out like 200 of the suckers.



What a great way to look at it.


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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:08am
We were upset, you can mortar us, fine whatever, we get over that pretty quick, but they killed out shower trailer..

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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:09am
I see. The journalist in me cannot help but wonder if all 200 killed in retaliation were enemy combatants, or if the target simply turned to brown people. 

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:12am
No, they were enemy combatants. The larger pocket of people killed were later confirmed as members of an indirect fire cell we had been hearing about that had recently moved into the area. The descriptions matched the reports as well, so we felt pretty good about it all.

The rest of the people were part of a different set of combatants all together, the "Abdullah Brigade"(their name, not ours)

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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:17am
Ah, I understand.

Its just that hearing "retaliatory" kinda makes that little 'something might be wrong here' gland itch.

So anyway, I actually do have a legit (non-internet-poking) question. Did you know/see/interact with any journalists while out and about?

While my number one goal in life is to learn to follow and cover elections in America, my second goal would be to do overseas correspondence work, specifically war-zone coverage.


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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:22am
Interesting you mention that. While i was working in Kuwait, i had a really great friend that worked for Kuwaiti intelligence, one of his sources was a reporter. Great guy named "Ahmed" got his kid out of a jam for him. He still E mails me from time to time. Really proffesional guy, he always had a smile no matter how bad a day he was having.

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Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:23am
It'd be hard for intell or anyone in the spec ops/task line of work to actually interact with journalists. My unit and I were under strict orders to not converse under any circumstances with anyone outside of the military.

My job and Dbib's job were quite different though.


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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:26am
Me and my guys were always interacting with the populace, we werent ever "MI" we were always "Force Protection" or "Civil Affairs"

Someone has info on someone, they get sent to "Force Protection"

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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:28am
Originally posted by Snipa69 Snipa69 wrote:

It'd be hard for intell or anyone in the spec ops/task line of work to actually interact with journalists. My unit and I were under strict orders to not converse under any circumstances with anyone outside of the military.

My job and Dbib's job were quite different though.


I am not one to say with certainty nor fact, but just from talking with people who have gone over to Iraq for certain news wire companies (UPI to be specific), they say it is surprising the amount of stuff people are willing to say if they don't give you a proper name or any identification.

I think it is some sort of odd human nature to want to tell people stuff.

Obviously if you are trained to not talk, then you won't.




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Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:33am
I agree. People always want to talk about the exciting things that happen in their lives. It's a fascinating aspect of human nature.

The Corps, as you might expect, is filled with people who hold up the Corps' values. Anyone who treds against these values will more than likely be witnessed doing so by at least two people who will get on their high horse and ride strait to the CO or closest possible officer who can actually do something about it.

If you are an average ground pounder, you can talk to whomever you'd like as long as you never gave specifics. i.e. you were on patrol near a village outside of location x. Roughly x ammount of men were on said patrol and blah blah blah. Vaeguness is key.

But yes, I did hear about lots of people talking to the AP about things they probably shouldn't have. But at the same time, the news has to come from someone at some point!


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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:35am
I wouldnt say that, everyone has breaking point.

We had a guy in Ramadi. Old Iraqi Special forces, freakin hard core guy, he coulda have gotten up, killed me, the two guards and been done by the time an MP had even touched the door of the interogation room. But i hammered this guy for 72 hours.

You know what got him? A snickers bar.

I lost all composure, sat back in my chair, fished around in my cargo pocket and took out a snickers bar, i took a bite and he looked at me and said, "Hey... whats that?" i told him its a snickers bar, he wanted a bite.. So i figured why not, this guys not going to talk, he eats the entire thing and asks.. "Do you have any more?" I looked at him dead in the face and ask, "What were you doing at the time of your arrest?"


He told me everything, and he got more snickers bars. You would be suprised what these guys will give info for, from snickers bars, socker balls, O'douls Beer(they believe they get drunk) to John Wayne and Jenna Jamisson.

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Posted By: impulse!
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:39am

So if you have a journalist with you guys. And they get killed, can there be any blame on your guys part. Or do they sign their life away when the enter?

Because being in a war zone armed with a camera does not sound fun to me. I don't even know why they even wear a bullet proof vest that is a differen't color and says press on it. Is it for the american viewers or are they hoping it will lessen the chance of getting shot by the enemy.

 



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Posted By: sporx
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:44am
do you like being in a military branch?

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:45am
Yeah, reporters do get shot, the one imbedded reporter i saw carried a pistol and wore a vest with balistic plates. I didnt know him at all though, no way a reporter is going to run around with an MI team, they put those loons with the infantry guys. You couldnt pay me to get shot at with nothing but a camera.


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- Sporx-

In all fairness when i joined up, i wasnt at all prepared to do the things i did while i was in combat, but somehow i did them, and i came out OK.

Do i like being in the Army? Yes, its about the guy next to me, i like being in formation, and knowing that no matter what, the guy next to me is going to take care of me, and i him, i like knowing that, when im at the mall, or on town with friends, that im in good good hands. I went to combat with these guys, and some of them are closer to me than my own family, i ate, slept and bled with these guys. Its that bond that i love so much. Ile miss it when i leave the military, i already know that. So yes, i do enjoy being in the Army.

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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:49am
Originally posted by Snipa69 Snipa69 wrote:


But yes, I did hear about lots of people talking to the AP about things they probably shouldn't have. But at the same time, the news has to come from someone at some point!


Hehe, the great and mighty AP.

AP is, by and large, the most professional of all the guys you will have the chance to talk to.

AP holds its reporters to very, very high standards, and has a strict set of guidelines on how to handle military sources. They know what they are doing when they have military people talking to them, for the most part.


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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:52am
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

they put those loons with the infantry guys. You couldnt pay me to get shot at with nothing but a camera.


Heh, I will take the term "loon" with pride, seeing as going into a potential war zone with a camera and a laptop is something I would love to do one day, if given the chance.


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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:55am
Originally posted by impulse! impulse! wrote:



Or do they sign their life away when the enter?

 


Pretty much the way it works.


The vests are for, from what I hear, quick identification in a crowd, as well as letting anyone involved that they are not soldiers for either side.


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Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 5:02am
Originally posted by Man Bites Dog Man Bites Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Snipa69 Snipa69 wrote:


But yes, I did hear about lots of people talking to the AP about things they probably shouldn't have. But at the same time, the news has to come from someone at some point!


Hehe, the great and mighty AP.

AP is, by and large, the most professional of all the guys you will have the chance to talk to.

AP holds its reporters to very, very high standards, and has a strict set of guidelines on how to handle military sources. They know what they are doing when they have military people talking to them, for the most part.


Agreed. I think that if there was ever a reporter that could hide his/her personal bias, he/she would belong to the AP.

Very stand-up individuals I must say.


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Posted By: karll
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 5:29am
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:


What branch of the military? Army, but within the army, im Military Inteligance.


Ind't that one of them oxymorons?


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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 7:30am

Originally posted by karll karll wrote:

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:


What branch of the military? Army, but within the army, im Military Inteligance.


Ind't that one of them oxymorons?

How did I know that old joke was coming?



Posted By: Kingtiger
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 8:29am
it always is...


Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 9:23am
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Originally posted by Snipa69 Snipa69 wrote:

Wait, you are already a Staff Sergeant? I thought you completed basic no more than a few years ago?


Yep, made specialist, got deployed, the colonel i was under made me a sergeant in kuwait a month in country. After running a 5 man team of HUMINT collectors, i was promoted. I made E6 in Afganistan.


how many years have you been in?


Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 9:33am
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 10:02am
all someone has to do to get out is tell their CO they are gay...

i had a navy officer tell me if you want out hit on your CO and you will have an honorable discharge and be home in 3 days.

is this true? and will you have to pay back any sign on bonuses?

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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 10:28am

Is there a chance that I could enlist right now and be gauranteed a place in OPFOR? Or would it be one of those things where the recruiter will say "Oh, uhhh maybe"



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Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 10:33am
DID YOU ORDER THE CODE RED!?

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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 12:18pm
Do you still regret not going joining Mother Green Killing Machines (USMC)?

and yeah have you ordered any code reds?

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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 12:24pm
Why did you say you had a deaf girlfriend who lived with you, chatted on IRC, and wasn't allowed in certain rooms of your apartment?

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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 3:40pm
i still want to know how long youve been in the army for


Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:07pm
Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

Is there a chance that I could enlist right now and be gauranteed a place in OPFOR? Or would it be one of those things where the recruiter will say "Oh, uhhh maybe"



You want to be the OPposing FORce during exercises?

Edited:  Bold type added for clarity.


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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:09pm
Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

Is there a chance that I could enlist right now and be gauranteed ...

I'm guessing the answer is "NO" regardless of what comes after this.



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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:14pm
Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

Is there a chance that I could enlist right now and be gauranteed ...

I'm guessing the answer is "NO" regardless of what comes after this.



Something I should have put in my earlier post:  Recruiters lie.  You can tell when they're lying because their lips are moving and sound is coming out.*

*This does not make the military bad, I enjoyed my time in.  It just means that you should be ready for the unexpected once you are in.


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Posted By: cadet_sergeant
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:29pm
Originally posted by Kristofer Kristofer wrote:

i still want to know how long youve been in the army for
I dont believe him, the easy thing for me to do would be to check
his AKO account, but i'd need his name, beyond that i dont believe him.
making E-6 during your first contract is impossable, either that or his unit is
really hurting for NCO's.


Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 4:45pm
About the only thing recruiters can Guarantee now days is a Deployment to the Sandbox.

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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 6:26pm
Why is it that a Marine Lance Corporal has more duties and responsibilities and more Marines under his command than an Army SSG does?

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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 6:33pm
I wanna be a marine sniper... and have since I was like... 8. advice? desperate attempts to change my mind? etc.?

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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 6:34pm

Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

Why is it that a Marine Lance Corporal has more duties and responsibilities and more Marines under his command than an Army SSG does?

Because an Army SSG has NO Marines under his command?



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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 6:47pm
Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

Why is it that a Marine Lance Corporal has more duties and responsibilities and more Marines under his command than an Army SSG does?


Because DBib is in a completely different MOC? Not everyone can be a rifleman.

Not that I'd want any other trade myself, of course. Being an NCO is fun.


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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 6:48pm
Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

Why is it that a Marine Lance Corporal has more duties and responsibilities and more Marines under his command than an Army SSG does?

Because an Army SSG has NO Marines under his command?


Ok, got me on a technicality.

Lets try this again.

Why is it that a Marine Lance Corporal has more duties and responsibilities and more Marines under his command than an Army SSG with the same job has soldiers?





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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 6:52pm

Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

Ok, got me on a technicality.

I try.

:)



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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 7:17pm
Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

Ok, got me on a technicality.

I try.

:)



Crazy lawyer speak....


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Posted By: youm0nt
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 7:21pm
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

I cant tell you where in afganistan i was, but in Iraq, i was in Ramadi for a while.




when was this?


Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 8:51pm
Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

Why is it that a Marine Lance Corporal has more duties and responsibilities and more Marines under his command than an Army SSG does?


Because Marine Salty Lance Coolio > Army Staff Sarge Duh. A better question is is Kritofer the only Marine who is enlisted now who hasnt seen any real world action?

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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 12:14pm
Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

Is there a chance that I could enlist right now and be gauranteed a place in OPFOR? Or would it be one of those things where the recruiter will say "Oh, uhhh maybe"



You want to be the OPposing FORce during exercises?

Edited:  Bold type added for clarity.

Yeah.



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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 2:07pm
Are you talking about the big training facility with really high speed OPFOR in quantico? Or the team in California??

Dude, just join, there are going to be plenty of oportunity to be OPFOR during training exersizes. The people that are ALWAYS opfor though.. They are instructors at training facilities.

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Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 2:34pm
How many dudes would consider you the Sergeant of the Staff.



Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 2:36pm
Hm..

To me i think, "The Staff" i think the "General Staff" and the closest thing to that i would think would be "Sergeant Major Preston" The sergeant major of the army.

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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 4:05pm
You still didn't answer my question.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 4:19pm
Well ile answer you if you tell me what it is you think i do.

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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 4:21pm
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Well ile answer you if you tell me what it is you think i do.


That isn't the purpose of these threads.


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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 4:22pm
Well hes saying an E4 in the marines has more duties than i do, but he doesnt know what i do.

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Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 4:23pm
Ever kill anyone?

And why is there cheese on my keyboard


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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 4:24pm
Thats personal.

And, your a sloppy eater? Or its Margles.

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Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 5:01pm
I have not been home all weekend so its not me. Care to be a PI and gather up suspects?

Ever regret enlisting?


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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 5:09pm
Have i ever regreted enlisting.

Yes, everyone has. But like i said before, being in the military is different than being a civilian. In the civilian world, you say do this, it might get done, it might done.

In the military, you say, hey private, i need you to run this file down to batallion, it gets done, and you know it gets done. You ask someone to do something, they come back and they tell you, it got done, they dont go away just yet, they will stand there because you didnt look at them and say, "Thank you, thats all"

In the civilian world, they might come back and say, "Hey i ran that file for you, they werent there so i left it on someone desk" and then just walk off.

I like the order and discipline of it.

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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 5:27pm
Who is more kick ass, the SMA, or the SgtMajMC?


Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 5:28pm
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Well hes saying an E4 in the marines has more duties than i do, but he doesnt know what i do.

Actually I was talking in general terms. I as a LCPL in the Marine Corps have 15-30 Marines under my chrage until they are ready to begin training.

Once the Marines are in training, the Marine Instructors at this school house normally have 12-24 Marines under them at any given time, however the Army instructors (who we work directly with) have to comply with a strict 6 to 1 student to instructor ratio.

So my question is, why does the Army not trust its NCO's and staff NCO's as much as the Corps trusts an E-3?


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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 5:30pm
Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Who is more kick ass, the SMA, or the SgtMajMC?


SgtMajMC FTW!

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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 5:30pm
Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

why does the Army not trust its NCO's and staff NCO's as much as the Corps trusts an E-3?


Because we've been to MCRD.    


Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 5:35pm
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Well hes saying an E4 in the marines has more duties than i do, but he doesnt know what i do.


You have been talking up that your some kinda SpecOps Intel Bubba. From what we gather you are still in your first enlistment and somehow have managed to climb to E-6. Unless you found Osama BinLadden it's hard to see how anyone specially now days woudl climb ranks so fast.

I have seen First enlistment term Sargents. But never a Staff Sargent neither has my father who retired a First Sargent with 30 plus years in the US Army. that's why your vague story has that whole overtone of shens.


Besides arent you Intel Bubbas are all about OPSEC?

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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 5:36pm
I know that in the USMC, rank is gained pretty fast in a combat zone.


But then again, USMC > Army


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 5:36pm
Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:


Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Well hes saying an E4 in the marines has more duties than i do, but he doesnt know what i do.
Actually I was talking in general terms. I as a LCPL in the Marine Corps have 15-30 Marines under my chrage until they are ready to begin training.Once the Marines are in training, the Marine Instructors at this school house normally have 12-24 Marines under them at any given time, however the Army instructors (who we work directly with) have to comply with a strict 6 to 1 student to instructor ratio.So my question is, why does the Army not trust its NCO's and staff NCO's as much as the Corps trusts an E-3?


Well what job are they training for?

I knew an E2 that had more than 70 soldiers that she was in charge of.

At the school house i attended for my MOS, class sizes varried between 24-2 depending on the lesson being taught.

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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 5:38pm
Nothing would surprise me with the Army at this point.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 5:44pm
Originally posted by Evil Elvis Evil Elvis wrote:

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Well hes saying an E4 in the marines has more duties than i do, but he doesnt know what i do.


You have been talking up that your some kinda SpecOps Intel Bubba. From what we gather you are still in your first enlistment and somehow have managed to climb to E-6. Unless you found Osama BinLadden it's hard to see how anyone specially now days woudl climb ranks so fast.

I have seen First enlistment term Sargents. But never a Staff Sargent neither has my father who retired a First Sargent with 30 plus years in the US Army. that's why your vague story has that whole overtone of shens.


Besides arent you Intel Bubbas are all about OPSEC?


Right now because of the Iraq war and people like the CIA and NSA, besicaly any OGA wanting this MOS to come work for them, they are offering big money and benifits to the older guys, so the skillers and warrent officers are leaving the army and the NCO corps for my MOS in droves, it made the promotion points drop to 350 for E5 and 450 for E6. So what happened was people got promoted fast. What happened to me was i made speicialist while i was still in school, i went over and was put in an E5s slot, i was put into an OMT cell, made corporal, made E6 because of the sergeant major and colonel i was working under at the time.

During my AIT phase of training, one of my drills was an E6, still in his first enlistment.

Im just intelligence, but my MOS does get stuck with the special ops guys a lot. I wasnt with any of those guys though.

OPSEC? Thats why im being relatively vauge.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 5:46pm
Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

Nothing would surprise me with the Army at this point.


Well group classes were kept at around 24. Classes on running approaches against and unwilling source and classes on elicitation, those were kept to 2 or three soldiers per instructor.

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Posted By: Gunchicken
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 5:56pm

whats a staff sergeant do?



Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 5:57pm
Originally posted by Gunchicken Gunchicken wrote:

whats a staff sergeant do?



....


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Depends on the MOS.


Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 5:58pm
The job they are training for is Heavy Equipment Operators, or Mechanics.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 6:01pm
I would venture to say that they trust marines that way because if a bunch of marines get killed during a training accident, its no big deal, not as big a deal as if a bunch of soldiers get killed.

The marines have always had this sort of mentality.

This is a joke by the way.

Its really up to the school house how they want to put together their classes, that warrent officer 5 or whoever is running it will decide class size and student to instructor ratios.

Army falls under TRADOC, training and doctrorine command, so its the same army wide reguardless of MOS.

Ive been told the Corpse doesnt have this sort of aparatus.

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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 8:41pm

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Are you talking about the big training facility with really high speed OPFOR in quantico? Or the team in California??

Dude, just join, there are going to be plenty of oportunity to be OPFOR during training exersizes. The people that are ALWAYS opfor though.. They are instructors at training facilities.

I was talking about the Battalion (or smaller) in California.



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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 9:21pm
Yeah thats not like, a battalion. Thats cadre at a training facility, thats not an entry level job, and its not an MOS, so you cant guarantee a job being OPFOR.

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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 22 July 2007 at 11:44am

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Yeah thats not like, a battalion. Thats cadre at a training facility, thats not an entry level job, and its not an MOS, so you cant guarantee a job being OPFOR.

I thought it was an MOS. They have their own insignia and everything..



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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 22 July 2007 at 12:18pm
Yeah, MOS doesnt have an insignia, your unit and corpse does. For instance, the MI corpse insignia is..



But my units insignia is..



That OPFOR group your refering to is a unit. Being OPFOR isnt a job you can sign up in the army.

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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 23 July 2007 at 12:06pm
Evil Elvis, as for me being the only Marine who hasnt been deployed yet, on this forum most defiantly. In the reserves most defiantly not, and many active duty Marines havnet either. But I will be going over in December unless something happens with that deployment. They are supposed to ask for volunteers in September for that deployment.

Also Linus, Marines in a warzone dont get promoted that fast, it speeds the promotion up, especially in a combat related field because of their experience. I've met Many a Marine who has been to Iraq twice who is still and E-4, E-5, and E-6. The E-6 has also been in for 12 years and almost has a masters degree. But that was a year ago so his status coule be different now.

Our Doc (Corpsman) who is retiring in June from the Navy has been in for twenty years, almost twenty, when he retires it will be twenty, but regardless he is E-5.

So. Back to my question which has YET to be answered and I had drill allll weekend, HOW MANY YEARS HAVE YOU BEEN IN THE ARMY?

Thats the easiest question to answer and doesnt have anything to do with OPSEC.


Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 23 July 2007 at 5:54pm
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Yeah, MOS doesnt have an insignia, your unit and corpse does. For instance, the MI corpse insignia is..



But my units insignia is..



That OPFOR group your refering to is a unit. Being OPFOR isnt a job you can sign up in the army.


He may be referring to 11th Armoured Cavalry Regiment at Fort Irwin. They're the OPFOR for the National Training Centre.


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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 23 July 2007 at 6:12pm
Kris,

I haven't deployed either. But only because I am medically non-deployable at a non-deployable unit, and looking at a possible discharge.


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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 23 July 2007 at 8:59pm
If driving at the speed of light, and you turn your lights on, would they work?


Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 24 July 2007 at 6:10am
i'm still waiting on length of enlistment question... how long have you been in?


Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 24 July 2007 at 7:26am
Originally posted by Kristofer Kristofer wrote:

i'm still waiting on length of enlistment question... how long have you been in?

I think he was found out, and had to crawl back in the hole he came from.


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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 24 July 2007 at 12:46pm
No there are some questions im not answering.

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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 24 July 2007 at 1:24pm
Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

If driving at the speed of light, and you turn your lights on, would they work?


What would REALLY blow your mind would be that approaching the speed of light would cause a doppler effect on allelectromagnetic energy- at the right speeds you could see infrared and UV, or even x rays, gamma rays, radio, microwaves, etc.

Doppler shift is wicked awesome.


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