Hats Came Today Yay.
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Topic: Hats Came Today Yay.
Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Subject: Hats Came Today Yay.
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:22pm
Meh new hats came today....I know you don't care. ------------- 
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:24pm
Are you talking about this hat?
Cause that is the picture that came up when I clicked the broken image link. |
Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:27pm
Emo. ------------- 
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Ghost-Rider wrote:Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:27pm
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No I fixed it.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:28pm
| Wow, I'm sorry you have to wear those |
Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:30pm
Damn Canuck. -------------
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:31pm
| We have ppl from Canada on this forum? Wow! |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:35pm
BUY 'MERICAN, LOL!!!! Idiot. |
Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:36pm
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USA > Japan / Asia
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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:36pm
I seriously hope that you are joking.... ------------- <Sig violation, Section 1> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:37pm
1) Lern 2 speel 2) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, you're rediculous. |
Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:37pm
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Asia....typo.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:38pm
Oh, I assume you meant American < Japan/ Asia then. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:38pm
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I am not joking just new to the forum. I come from a small town and because I am home schooled dont get the chance to meet many ppl.
I met alot of ppl on myspace tho |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:38pm
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There you crazy Canadians go again. Always using common sense and such. Jeez.
------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:40pm
Plase, not another 14 year old myspace addict. -------------
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:40pm
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Okay, this is just silly. Proof of eBay purchase? ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:41pm
agreed, link to finished auction or shens |
Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:44pm
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Cool, in 10 years when you're old enough to drive, you will be stylin. ------------- Imagine there’s a picture of your favourite thing here. |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:47pm
Afraid of someone encroaching on your position? ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:48pm
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Ok, let me find it...or try.
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:49pm
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Not you... ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:52pm
I do drive smartass.  -------------
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:53pm
Bought the hats on laptop, which my mom is on so this will have to do.  -------------
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Posted By: karll
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:56pm
Did you just wash the truck? Should have bought a honda, they wash themselves. ------------- PlentifulBalls "It's cool, I'll be dead before I'm not pretty." Gatyr "Stupid things exist."
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 2:58pm
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Honda sucks...everyone i have been it feels flimsy as hell.
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Posted By: karll
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:02pm
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Well when you grow up and learn that sometimes function takes precedents over form, you will accept a little "flimsiness" from a car that will go for 250K and get 30mpg+ the whole way there.
------------- PlentifulBalls "It's cool, I'll be dead before I'm not pretty." Gatyr "Stupid things exist."
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:07pm
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My truck has 235k and runs strong, i will never buy a Japanese car.
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:09pm
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I feel it is my duty to mention your truck was probably assembled in Japan. Or at least from Japanese parts. Cars and trucks stopped being truly "American" in the 70's. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:12pm
Our Del Sol was horrible. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:14pm
Mexico. -------------
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Posted By: jordanpischke
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:14pm
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Ya I dont even think its possible to sell a tippmann forum account on ebay. If you could then you could easily rip people off and just dont give them your password after they buy it. Why would you buy one anyway? Its free. If he isn't making it up which I doubt I would be curious at how much he payed for a account. ------------- 
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:14pm
Ummm... No. Not from Ford. Mexico, Canada, or USA for the most part. Japanese labor is too expensive for US automakers to justify the overhead of international business. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: karll
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:15pm
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I do love my "american" cars and trucks. However, when purchasing a new car recently, dollar for dollar and pound for pound the Japanese cars came out on top. Actually my Civic was made in Canada. ------------- PlentifulBalls "It's cool, I'll be dead before I'm not pretty." Gatyr "Stupid things exist."
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:15pm
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German > Japanese
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:16pm
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My truck is a product of Canada. guy owned a company that was Canada based and it was his work truck.
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Posted By: karll
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:18pm
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So did he buy it in Canada or was it made in Canada. Just because he used it when he worked there doesn't mean it is a product of Canada.
------------- PlentifulBalls "It's cool, I'll be dead before I'm not pretty." Gatyr "Stupid things exist."
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:18pm
Yeah, trying to find something I liked. I like the new one. It can stay for a bit. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:18pm
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FIX OR REPAIR DAILY LOL
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:19pm
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Really? Oops. Well, according to my grandpa who works for Chevy, a lot of the parts are imported from Japan. Heck, I know for a fact Pontiac uses Japanese parts, so I assumed Ford did too. But, I know GM =/= Ford. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:19pm
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Both my Grand Prix GXP and our Mustang GT were assembled in Canada from parts made in Canada, Mexico, and the USA. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:21pm
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:22pm
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You lose.
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Posted By: karll
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:22pm
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Ghost rider, would you ever buy a Mazda?
------------- PlentifulBalls "It's cool, I'll be dead before I'm not pretty." Gatyr "Stupid things exist."
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:23pm
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It would have to be a newer one.Ford owns them.
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Posted By: karll
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:26pm
Yea, that's why I asked. Just curious. ------------- PlentifulBalls "It's cool, I'll be dead before I'm not pretty." Gatyr "Stupid things exist."
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:27pm
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Yeah, doesn't surprise me that they would order some parts from Japan rather than designing and building their own, though they would limit the value of those parts to reduce tariffs. There for a long time, all of the Big 3 had partnerships with Japanese companies.
The Geo Metro (GM) and the Suzuki Swift were the same car. The Plymouth Laser (MOPAR), Eagle Talon (MOPAR), and Mitsubishi Eclipse were the same car. The Ford Fiesta was a clone of a Japanese designed car, too, but I can't remember which one. I think it was a Hyundai. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: Bounty
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:32pm
| I find it funny how so many people have a problem with Ford after they have time and time again proven themselves all over the automotive market. |
Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:33pm
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So the change in ownership instantly changed the quality of the cars...? I never could understand this "OMG JAPANESE CARS!" emotion. ------------- "No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable." |
Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:34pm
Cause they pose a threat on their little Japanese cars. -------------
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Posted By: Bounty
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:39pm
Actually yes, depending on who buys them out changes alot in that company. Ford isn't going to just allow one of their companies to continue building low quality vehicles (Im being hypothetical here, not bashing on Mazdas past) they are going to make sure this company shapes up or else its money out of their pockets. |
Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:46pm
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I drive a Ford and have been quite impressed with it. I also have driven a Honda, and have been impressed with it. ------------- 
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:48pm
Ford has a horrible track record with me and my family with one important exception... My wife's Mustang GT is the most trouble free new car we've ever purchased. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:49pm
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I'm not TOTALLY downing Honda, when it comes to off road machines, such as quads, bikes ect. Honda is my first and only company im buying from.They make bulletproof quads and such.
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Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:50pm
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I wasn't aware that Ford had "proven themselves" at all...? But I don't think most people have a problem with Ford. What we have a problem with are Ford-geeks (or Chevy-geeks) that are irrationally attached to their arbitrarily chosen brand. ------------- "No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable." |
Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:53pm
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Yes, there is that Ford Vs. Chevy war, but my grandpa worked for GM , we had had dodge before as well.Out of all the big 3 our Fords have been the best,of course i have to be slightly bias to Ford as my dad is an engineer for Fords but still, we have owned cars from all the big 3 and Ford has proven itself.
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Posted By: Bounty
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:55pm
Every car company has cars that dont perform well 100% of the time but when it comes to my family we have loved all our fords. My Dads F-150, his previous F-150, my 87 Crown Vic gave me minimal trouble especially for a 20 year old car (most impressive thing Ive seen) my SVT Focus has been great and I have to mention my friends 300K mile Ford that hasnt needed much more than an oil change in its lifetime. These are just a few of the Fords too. Then of course when you look at the company and its past, such as Ferarris challenge, you have to agree this is no crap company. |
Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:57pm
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And how many NON-big-3 cars have you owned? ------------- "No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable." |
Posted By: Bounty
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:57pm
I can go into detail on their successes if you would like. Also, those Ford Geeks are usually rednecks and who dont they annoy, I love my ford, always will, but I can also realize when another company comes out with something better. |
Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:58pm
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Please do. ------------- "No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable." |
Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:00pm
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We have never owned japanese cars, we have driven them rentals,and such and its been more than jsut a day or two.Friends have jap cars as well that i have been in.
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:06pm
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That is not the preferred nomenclature.
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Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:11pm
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Germany > Japan > USA
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:13pm
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Allies > Axis.
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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:14pm
China-man? ------------- |
Posted By: chronic future
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:14pm
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not another stupid "ford is better b/c i live in america" thread. jesus. oh and vw>* |
Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:15pm
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vw cost to much to repair, their good cars but theres a few lemons out there and if you get one you'll pay for it.
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Posted By: Bounty
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:15pm
Lets start with the Mustang. The first was a 1964 1/2 and sold faster than any other car in the world, even today. It is the fastest selling car ever. Even the new Mustang when it first came out averaged 15 mins on the lot before being sold. The older Mustang surprised Ford by selling more than 6x what the company predicted it would sell. Now Im not sure how familiar you are with Top Gear but those of you who know who Jeremy Clarkson is will realize how surprising this video is. http://videos.streetfire.net/video/f1f6b389-838a-42ae-af27-9961010ff253.htm - |
Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:19pm
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Not to mention they revamped the Tarsus.
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Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:21pm
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And the Mustang and F-150 were in fact the exact two 'exceptions' I was thinking of. I'll also throw in the Escort as a decent car. But other than that? One truck, and one, maybe two, cars? That's not a lot. Certainly doesn't count as having "proven itself repeatedly". The entire rest of the Ford fleet is uninspired, unexciting, of no particular quality or performance standard, and generally blah. And let's not forget the Ford Taurus. Arguably the blandest car in history. And even the Mustang is a bit shaky, frankly. The new Mustangs are very nice, but for the preceding 10-15 years, even the Mustang was a super-dull car. A 2000 Mustang looks just like a random small car:
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:22pm
Just for fun... My review of every car I've ever owned...
Geez, that looks like a lot when I list them out like that... ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: Bounty
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:24pm
They didn't really revamp it, they just re-named the freestyle and Five Hundred. |
Posted By: chronic future
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:24pm
| sandman you need a vr6 in your car collection somewhere |
Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:26pm
Bigger engine, that was the #1 complaint for the 500, it lacked power. -------------
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:27pm
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RE the 1964.5 Ford Mustang... They hit a market niche. That says nothing about the quality of the product. If we were arguing which companies had the best business development division, this would mean something.
RE the F-150... Quality has to weigh somewhat into being and staying the best selling pickup. That said, however, sales have a lot more to do with successful advertising than a quality product. Look how long AOL (AO-hell) was the world's #1 ISP for a sterling example of how a crap product can be the most popular. My intent is not to bash Ford, only to take the data for exactly what it is... Sales volume has very little to do with product quality no matter what company we're talking about. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:28pm
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Plus anytime I wanna fill up on gas, I have to pry the gas door open with the "switch blade key" as I call it. ------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: Bounty
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:32pm
Yea I cant tell you how ignorant of a statement that was. The fact that Ford has all these important cars with a history already beats out other companies. The Mustang and F-150 aren't exceptions, all cars HAVE to be accounted for. And like I said the Edge is doing very well, the Fusion sold very well and the Mustang has had bad years (we call them the Mustang IIs) but so what. The 2001 SVT Cobra is an amazing car. Not all the older stangs were bad especially in the last 10-15 years. Foxbody's are wicked fast and the 4th generation do extremely well too. Please excuse me if I sound like Im upset, its just my choice of vocabulary, Im not really this obsessed. Ignorance annoys me too, just an fyi. |
Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:33pm
I think not. Looked at VW's several times and they always seem way overpriced for what you get. Not impressed. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:35pm
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I simply don't understand the whole American car obsession. It's been proven time and time again that they are simply not as good as foreign cars in many departments. Heck, look at a mustang suspension compared to pretty much anything european. It's total crap and can't corner. Also, US carmakers are pretty poor at getting horsepower out of an engine, our numbers are alot lower than what you'll see across the pond. And just watch the top gear about the ford truck. The poorly made/ fitted cabin and just in general bad choices of building material.
There are simply too many reasons to choose foreign cars that dominate the crud out of US cars. |
Posted By: Bounty
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:36pm
Oh I agree completley but as I've said before I know people with Fords that have insane miles on them and still run great. My Dad has not had a problem with his F-150, my friend loves his Mustang (1991 GT) and my Fords never gave me a problem. My buddy has an 89 F-150 that works great. Sales figures matter because no one will buy a junky car but I also agree there is more to it. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:40pm
Tons of people buy crappy cars based on the principle "its american" all the time. People buy crappy cars because of slick advertising and salesmen all the time. People buy crap cars because they don't do their research and they dont compare all the time. People buy crap cars because its the name they get drilled into their heads the most and dont bother to know any better....all the time. |
Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:40pm
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Except for maybe personal taste-? Alot of people just prefer the design and feel of an American car. I don't, but alot of people do. -------------
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Posted By: Bounty
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:42pm
The Mustang, despite the poor suspension, still got great reviews. The F-150 still got great reviews and Top Gear is the most bias car show on TV, all they do is bash on American cars, so why would you use that as your back up? Compared to other trucks the F-150 is the best, sure they could use better materials but at the cost of hiking the MSRP up a crap load. Most car makers could use better materials, its not something limited to just Fords. Foreign cars can be better, yes, but not at everything. If they were they would be the ones making history now wouldnt they. Choop, I expect more from you than just a single negative statement against an award winning car. |
Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:45pm
Strictly untrue. Millions of people bought Renault cars, a monumentally horrific automobile line, in the 80's. Millions more bought Yugos, arguably the least reliable car ever sold in the USA, statistically. In absolutely every industry, people are being sold crap products with good advertising. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:45pm
| I'd way rather own a Tacoma or Tundra over a F-150 any day of the week. Not just because I like toyota, but because it is simply better in nearly every way. I guess to me, Ford is like bad music. Some people like it for reasons that defy logic and I will never understand. And yeah, Top Gear doesn't like american cars....for a reason...they're crap compared to what else they drive. |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:45pm
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Way out preform the majority of the foreign cars in production. ------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: Bounty
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:46pm
Its true that crap cars sell but Im talking about the majority of people, just because a couple thousand junk cars sell (*cough*civic*cough*) doesnt mean anything. Every car will sell but Im referring to massive sales figures...how didnt you not catch that? |
Posted By: chronic future
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:47pm
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:48pm
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Ok, well, this conversation is fruitless.
You've made it clear enough that you're a Ford loyalist and that you're going to remain so no matter what anyone says here, so... Little reason in wasting time discussing it any further. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: Bounty
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:49pm
wow, your just as bias and ignorant as they are. Im sorry you let your own personal thoughts and feelings cloud fact and logic. The fact is Top Gear, while an awesome show, is like Fox News. It can be fun to watch but in the end you cant really take them to seriously. |
Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:55pm
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Ignorant? What an odd word to use. So you are saying that because Ford has made "important" cars in the past, it should somehow get a pass in the present? I will agree that the Model T was an important car, but other than that, I don't know how a car model gets to be "important". Let's look at the Ford lineup: Fusion - Implements their 500-style design in a smaller car. Kudos for that. Appears generally well received at this time, but only a year on the market. We will see. Focus - meh. Standard small car, but doesn't drive as well as a Corolla, and nowhere near a Civic. Original design was a little new, but now looks a little like a Taurus. Mustang - affordable sports car, but many models are indistishuable from a Focus. Shouldn't your fancy sports car look a little sporty? The new ones do look quite snazzy, however. Five Hundred - stylin' vehicle, but also a ripoff of the Chryster 300 series. All reports indicate "middle of the road" overall. Boring inside. Taurus - omg. Boringest car ever, inside and out. Crown Vic - a classic, and drives like one. Great if you want to pretend that it is still 1974. Otherwise, not so much. Freestyle - "new" crossover. Too bad everybody else has been making crossovers for a decade. Way to be ahead of the curve. Edge - Same Escape - Ford finally comes up with a compact SUV, just as SUVs are on their way out. gg. Kudos for making it a hybrid, though. Of course, Honda and Toyota have been selling those for almost a decade also. Explorer - this was a ground-breaking vehicle. The first true SUV from an American company (Mercedes had been making them for years already), and still popular. Expedition - Hey, look! It's an Explorer, only bigger! They didn't even bother to come up with a new name. And don't get me started on the Excursion. Freestar - a minivan, and not a particularly good one at that. Come to think of it, Ford has NEVER put out a minivan that was any good at all. Toyota/Honda/Chrystler dominate this segment, and Ford fails miserably. Ranger - very iffy. Usually loses to S-10 and Japanese compact pickups in comparisons. F-150 - good truck, consistent performer over the years. Conclusion: A fleet with a few success stories, and few outright failures, and a whole lot of blah. Boring, boring, boring. This is why people like German cars, for instance. Each of the 3 main German companies are distinct. They don't rip each other off, but come up with their own designs, their own innovations, their own style. Ford, not so much. ------------- "No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable." |
Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:58pm
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I would like confirmation from someone that I am not the only person here who does not giving a flying hoot about car brands? I got mine because of its record and price, not because of any sort of logo on the thing. -------------
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 5:01pm
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Gotta be careful about the borderline flaming here...
wow, your just as bias and ignorant as they are. Im sorry you let your own personal thoughts and feelings cloud fact and logic. That's really close to strike-worthy. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 5:04pm
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Doesnt record come with brand? At the stock truck pull, nearly every chevy duramax had a full pull. Ford triton, not so much. But Susan, how can you leave out the ford festiva? ------------- 
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Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 5:06pm
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I was looking at current models. But the Festiva does deserve an honorable mention. :) ------------- "No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable." |
Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 5:11pm
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Ford Bobcat FTW.
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 5:12pm
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Here's something interesting:
http://www.forbes.com/2004/01/23/cx_dl_0126featslide.html - Forbes 10 Worst Cars of All Time Ford and GM both appear 3 times... Out of 10... Though Ford has the distinction of appearing all 3 times as "Ford" products (not Lincoln or Mercury, etc...) GM appears under Chevrolet, Oldsmobile, and Pontiac. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 5:14pm
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IMO- You are not a True American/Canadian if you drive a import. You need to support "OUR" economy not these Asain corporations(Not trying to be racist) People lose thousands of jobs at car plants such asg GM because everybody is going out and buying the imports. ------------- [IMG]http://i14.tinypic.com/73e0l8j.jpg"> Represent! |
Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 5:16pm
Actually, seeing as how American's are all about capitalism, one would think they are being more American for buying (what they think is, but probably not is) the better product. -------------
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 5:18pm
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Hrmm... Wow, I thought employees of the Big 3 were losing their jobs because of outsourcing to Mexico.
*shrug* IMO, if you're going with this theory, then you'd better do your research and be sure to buy only electronics made wholly in the USA also. (You're not gonna find any.) Not to mention all the other things you buy, 80% of which are made in China or from things our manufacturers got from China. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |