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Topic: DUI Checkpoints
Posted By: Da Hui
Subject: DUI Checkpoints
Date Posted: 27 July 2007 at 10:12pm
Apparently the cops thought that tonight would be a good night to have one. I seriously hate them. So I turn around and go the other way home, to find that my licence plate is expired. Glad I turned around.

Anybody else have any stories about those?


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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 27 July 2007 at 10:19pm
I've always avoided them. My friend's mom is the mayor of my town, so I usually know when there's going to be one and where it is.

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Posted By: Jack Carver
Date Posted: 27 July 2007 at 10:23pm
I have never heard of them. Do they just stop and check everybody?


Posted By: WGP guy2
Date Posted: 27 July 2007 at 10:28pm
Originally posted by Jack Carver Jack Carver wrote:

I have never heard of them. Do they just stop and check everybody?


They check the license plate, drivers license, and inspection.


Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 27 July 2007 at 10:32pm
^ and to see if you have been drinking.... they say the VA cops are doing them all over but i have never seen one.

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Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 27 July 2007 at 10:38pm
My friend Tim and I went to a concert one time, and got stopped at a DUI checkpoint on the way home. They sort of situated the checkpoint around a turn so you couldn't have time to turn around and had to drive through it. As such, there was no time to get your papers ready to show the cops. I was sitting in the passenger's seat, and I had been drinking, so I was having trouble trying to find Tim's insurance card in his glove box. I literally spent five minutes rooting through the glove box, Tim was started to get frustrated, and the cop was getting ticked off at me. He began to lecture Tim about the cleanliness of his glove box as I finally found the thing.

Not that great of a story...guess you kind of had to be there.


Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 27 July 2007 at 10:49pm
Stupid cops.....although you really shouldn't be drinking and driving. 

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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 27 July 2007 at 11:28pm
Why avoid them? If I'm driving I'm sober and my car is legal. If you're driving drunk, you're just plain dumb, and I honestly hope you're caught.


Posted By: PaintballkidEPS
Date Posted: 27 July 2007 at 11:32pm

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Why avoid them? If I'm driving I'm sober and my car is legal. If you're driving drunk, you're just plain dumb, and I honestly hope you're caught.

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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 27 July 2007 at 11:35pm
Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Why avoid them? If I'm driving I'm sober and my car is legal. If you're driving drunk, you're just plain dumb, and I honestly hope you're caught.
They're a pain in the ass.


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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 27 July 2007 at 11:37pm
Originally posted by PaintballkidEPS PaintballkidEPS wrote:

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Why avoid them? If I'm driving I'm sober and my car is legal. If you're driving drunk, you're just plain dumb, and I honestly hope you're caught.

/agree



Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 27 July 2007 at 11:43pm
I personaly like checkpoints, tells me the cops care. I dont know if it discourages drunk driving, but i still like them.

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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 27 July 2007 at 11:56pm
For the rest of my life.

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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 12:01am
Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Why avoid them? If I'm driving I'm sober and my car is legal. If you're driving drunk, you're just plain dumb, and I honestly hope you're caught.
They're a pain in the ass.
Exactly. Most of the the cops down here are the "I can arrest your ass if I want" cops who just harass people cause they can.


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Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 12:50am
Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Why avoid them? If I'm driving I'm sober and my car is legal. If you're driving drunk, you're just plain dumb, and I honestly hope you're caught.


That's why the cops around here put them in places that you don't see them coming, so drunk drivers don't have advance warning to take a side street. It only applied to my story because I didn't see ahead of time to look for Tim's proof of insurance card.


Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 12:55am
Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

If you're driving drunk, you're just plain dumb, and I honestly hope you're caught.


Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 4:24am
Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:


Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Why avoid them? If I'm driving I'm sober and my car is legal. If you're driving drunk, you're just plain dumb, and I honestly hope you're caught.
They're a pain in the ass.


How? They check if you're drunk, and check your cars legality, etc. Oh no, you lose 3 precious minutes on your way to 7-11 or home or whatever. I'd way rather have a checkstop keeping someone who could drift over the line into another car, or who may have passengers, whatever off the road. I'm fine with a small hassle, and heck I'm more than willing to do a breathalyzer and have in the past. I know if I'm in the wrong or not and have no qualms with co-operating to help them out and let me be on my way.


Posted By: impulse!
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 4:58am
Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:


Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Why avoid them? If I'm driving I'm sober and my car is legal. If you're driving drunk, you're just plain dumb, and I honestly hope you're caught.
They're a pain in the ass.


How? They check if you're drunk, and check your cars legality, etc. Oh no, you lose 3 precious minutes on your way to 7-11 or home or whatever. I'd way rather have a checkstop keeping someone who could drift over the line into another car, or who may have passengers, whatever off the road. I'm fine with a small hassle, and heck I'm more than willing to do a breathalyzer and have in the past. I know if I'm in the wrong or not and have no qualms with co-operating to help them out and let me be on my way.


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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 8:12am
I avoid them if I can. Any alcohol gets you a DUI if you're underage, I can blow a .01 and go directly to jail that night, lose my license for six months(again) pay thousands in fines etc. If I have literally one or two beers.

Even if I haven't been drinking, I'm a college student, they're going to be dissapointed if they  don't find anything to cite me for, I'm sure I have a misplaced registration sticker or a my muffler sounds funny. If not I'm sure a cop can just tear my windshield wiper again and tell me it's defective.  Anything to avoid having to deal with law enforcement is a great thing for me. I'm sure I'm violating some sort of law or regulation without knowing it.


Posted By: hoginds24
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 9:57am
State troopers showed up to 12 teens playing whiffleball last night and told us we neeeded to do funnels and get some everclear. NY FTW


Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 11:34am

Originally posted by rednekk98 rednekk98 wrote:

I avoid them if I can. Any alcohol gets you a DUI if you're underage, I can blow a .01 and go directly to jail that night, lose my license for six months(again) pay thousands in fines etc. If I have literally one or two beers.

Even if I haven't been drinking, I'm a college student, they're going to be dissapointed if they  don't find anything to cite me for, I'm sure I have a misplaced registration sticker or a my muffler sounds funny. If not I'm sure a cop can just tear my windshield wiper again and tell me it's defective.  Anything to avoid having to deal with law enforcement is a great thing for me. I'm sure I'm violating some sort of law or regulation without knowing it.
 

If any alcohol gets you a DUI, abstain from driving if you've had anything to drink; doesn't take a college education to figuire that out.



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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 12:21pm
I'm not driving impaired, other than random roadblocks like this they have no reason to pull me over. If I were driving like a jackass that'd be one thing, but I'm not going to pretend that one or two beers is going to impair me less in a few months when it will be legal for me to drive at that state. It's a law aimed at curbing teen drinking and works about as well as any other zero tolerance policy. It assumes that teens are rational(almost never true) and will not drink at all since they will be treated the same as if they were intoxicated. Teens, being irrational think that since it doesn't matter in the eyes of the law how much they've had, get as drunk as they think they can and still operate, which is too drunk to really drive, and do it anyways. It's almost like teaching abstinence only sex ed. 


Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 1:13pm
Man, some one has a real issue with the law.

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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 1:38pm
Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:


Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Why avoid them? If I'm driving I'm sober and my car is legal. If you're driving drunk, you're just plain dumb, and I honestly hope you're caught.
They're a pain in the ass.


How? They check if you're drunk, and check your cars legality, etc. Oh no, you lose 3 precious minutes on your way to 7-11 or home or whatever. I'd way rather have a checkstop keeping someone who could drift over the line into another car, or who may have passengers, whatever off the road. I'm fine with a small hassle, and heck I'm more than willing to do a breathalyzer and have in the past. I know if I'm in the wrong or not and have no qualms with co-operating to help them out and let me be on my way.
I usually am pretty nice to cops. Last checkpoint I went through I was there for 30 minutes. Nothing was wrong my car, papers, nobody was impaired, my damn Mother (owner of that vehicle) was even in the car. They actually inspected underneath the vehicle (2003 Toyota Sequia).


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Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 1:47pm

Originally posted by rednekk98 rednekk98 wrote:

.... It's almost like teaching abstinence only sex ed. 

In theory yes, except that if I choose to drink and drive, I  risk being seriously injured or worse, not to mention anyone that had the poor misfortune of being in my way if an accident occured. 



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Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 2:09pm
Drunk driving = unprotected sex with someone you don't know.

Either way, nothing good can come of it.


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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 2:57pm
Wow, the cops suck where you guys live. I still haven't had a negative experience with the cops, even if they're breaking up a party they're really nice and whatnot. The worst I had was when the dude could smell alcohol (my friend beside me) and assumed it was me (an ok assumption for the sake of safety) and asked me if I'd do a breathalyzer. I agreed, blew a .00 and I was on my way. Also, I'm in Canada where we dont have insane drinking ages, so I'm not underage, and I have my full license, so I'm safe up to .08


Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 3:46pm

God I hate the cops around where I live, its a small town and most of the cops are fairly new out of the academy, so they think they're gunna be the next robocop (minus the robot thing) I've seen and heard of them pulling people over for having their brights on in city limits, because it "looked" like they where speeding, on a very low traveled road somone didnt use their turn signal into their driveway... etc.

The last DUI checkpoint I went through after the cop takes his high powerflash light and shines it right in my eyes, he proceeds to ask, so... did you guys just put your seat belts on when you saw the lights? ...I so badly wanted to go, why yes, I saw those lights, decided I'd put my seat belt on and pull on up here, cuz I didnt wanna get caught. Next he proceeded not to ask IF I had been drinking that night but HOW MUCH I had been drinking, now I had 2 other people in the car with me who will attest I wasnt swerving and I didnt act like I was drunk, So I finally just got mad and asked the cop if he was accusing me of underage drinking, he quickly said no sir, and let me drive on...



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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 3:54pm
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck JohnnyCanuck wrote:

Originally posted by rednekk98 rednekk98 wrote:

.... It's almost like teaching abstinence only sex ed. 

In theory yes, except that if I choose to drink and drive, I  risk being seriously injured or worse, not to mention anyone that had the poor misfortune of being in my way if an accident occured. 

I'm not talking about driving drunk. If you're under 21 in this state, if you blow .01, you're going to jail. I wouldn't call that impaired. Even a .08 takes about two beers to reach. Ideally you should not drive impaired at all, but people talk on the phone and do all sorts of stupid things that impair their driving all the time and often much worse than a few beers. Alcohol is just easier to measure and prove, and also less socially acceptable.


Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 3:55pm

They have em around here sometimes, and if they see you turn around they'll chase you down.

I've never been through one or even seen one before.



Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 4:18pm
I've had some bad experiences with police. Could just be a few bad eggs though.

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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 4:37pm
I don't care for them because they have not been proven to reduce drinking and drive and they assume several things. A) That you have been drinking and B) That you have something to hide. It pretty much violates your 4th amendment rights against unlawful search and seizure, because it assumes you are guilty by driving. I've been through a checkpoint that had cops and dogs, and it took me nearly 20 minutes to get through because they had the dogs sniffing at every car for drugs and the cops making sure everybody was not drunk.


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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 4:53pm
Fudge the police comin straight from the underground.

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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 6:14pm
I keep my badge right next to my ID, they just check that and smell my breath.

Been through 2 this month so far.


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Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 7:52pm
Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Why avoid them? If I'm driving I'm sober and my car is legal. If you're driving drunk, you're just plain dumb, and I honestly hope you're caught.
They're a pain in the ass.


For real. Even if everything is legit, they often give you a hard time and look for anything they can hold against you. Last time I was in a vehicle and we got pulled over (pulled over for nothing specific, just a car full of teens at 2 AM), the cop just mouthed off at us the whole time and was screwing with us. He was cocky and a genuine smart ass, because after he ran our names through the databases, he found out that our driver had a warrant for his arrest. Luckily, he let us go and my buddy didn't have to go to jail, but he still pulled us over for no reason and wasted our time.


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Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 7:58pm
Originally posted by rednekk98 rednekk98 wrote:


Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck JohnnyCanuck wrote:

Originally posted by rednekk98 rednekk98 wrote:

.... It's almost like teaching abstinence only sex ed. 


In theory yes, except that if I choose to drink and drive, I  risk being seriously injured or worse, not to mention anyone that had the poor misfortune of being in my way if an accident occured. 

I'm not talking about driving drunk. If you're under 21 in this state, if you blow .01, you're going to jail.
Here in OR too, even if you just used some mouthwash or something, ANY presence of alcohol is enough to go to jail.


Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 8:32pm

Originally posted by Sammy Sammy wrote:

  It pretty much violates your 4th amendment rights against unlawful search and seizure, because it assumes you are guilty by driving.

not really, for all you know they have a warrant out on someone in a stolen car, so they could be looking for someone. that, and if you have nothing to hide, whats it matter?



Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 9:16pm
Originally posted by GI JOES SON GI JOES SON wrote:

Originally posted by Sammy Sammy wrote:

  It pretty much violates your 4th amendment rights against unlawful search and seizure, because it assumes you are guilty by driving.

if you have nothing to hide, whats it matter?


I reallllly truly hope you do not mean that. Praise the lord we live in a country where suspicion alone does not merit a search/arrest, except in this case. You should probably brush up on your rights a little bit.


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Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 9:18pm
If you have not been drinking, there's nothing to worry about. The police are doing their jobs by having roadblocks. I mean, all they ever do with there time is pick on you since they have nothing else better to do.

Suck it up and don't complain about them. They are for your own good and the safety of others.


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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 9:51pm
Originally posted by 636andy636. 636andy636. wrote:

If you have not been drinking, there's nothing to worry about. The police are doing their jobs by having roadblocks. I mean, all they ever do with there time is pick on you since they have nothing else better to do.

Suck it up and don't complain about them. They are for your own good and the safety of others.

As somebody stated earlier, the smallest amount of alcohol can get anybody under 21 a DUI, even if they are not impaired! If you have nothing to hide, are you going to let the cops search your house? How about your computer? Your porn collection? Pirated music collection? Why should your car/person be any different/


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Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 9:55pm

Ok, first off, you should read your local city paper(if you have one).  Usually, they have to mention it somewhere before just putting it up.  Sometimes they will even have signs, big ones, in the city.  So, you kind of, should have, known.

Secondly, NEVER, turn around.  Usually there are 1 or 2 other police officers on either side of the checkpoint, waiting for people to turn around, because they're the guilty ones.  But in your case, you would have been screwed either way.

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Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 10:16pm
Originally posted by Sammy Sammy wrote:

Originally posted by 636andy636. 636andy636. wrote:

If you have not been drinking, there's nothing to worry about. The police are doing their jobs by having roadblocks. I mean, all they ever do with there time is pick on you since they have nothing else better to do.

Suck it up and don't complain about them. They are for your own good and the safety of others.

As somebody stated earlier, the smallest amount of alcohol can get anybody under 21 a DUI, even if they are not impaired! If you have nothing to hide, are you going to let the cops search your house? How about your computer? Your porn collection? Pirated music collection? Why should your car/person be any different/



Does it matter if your impaired or not? No, since even if you blow .01 you are still doing something illegal. You got busted for something you were doing illegally. Your under 21, you should not have been drinking.

Will I let a on duty police officer in my house? No, because letting them in your house gives them the right to search your home.

Cops can only search your stuff with your consent or a warrant.

DUI check points are for public safety. To keep you from being hit by a drunk driver or you driving into someone else.

If you have such a problem with the law go find a militia in Arizona and join it.


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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 10:45pm
Originally posted by 636andy636. 636andy636. wrote:

Originally posted by Sammy Sammy wrote:

Originally posted by 636andy636. 636andy636. wrote:

If you have not been drinking, there's nothing to worry about. The police are doing their jobs by having roadblocks. I mean, all they ever do with there time is pick on you since they have nothing else better to do.

Suck it up and don't complain about them. They are for your own good and the safety of others.

As somebody stated earlier, the smallest amount of alcohol can get anybody under 21 a DUI, even if they are not impaired! If you have nothing to hide, are you going to let the cops search your house? How about your computer? Your porn collection? Pirated music collection? Why should your car/person be any different/



Does it matter if your impaired or not? No, since even if you blow .01 you are still doing something illegal. You got busted for something you were doing illegally. Your under 21, you should not have been drinking.

Mouthwash is illegal? A large percent of it is alcohol along with some breath mints and it is easily strong enough to make you blow a .01.

Will I let a on duty police officer in my house? No, because letting them in your house gives them the right to search your home.

Why is letting them give you a Breathalyzer any different? Driving should not merit random car searches and breath tests.

Cops can only search your stuff with your consent or a warrant.

If they have dogs at check points (I've seen em) and they smell something, they can legally search your car. No warrant, and the dogs can be wrong.

DUI check points are for public safety. To keep you from being hit by a drunk driver or you driving into someone else.

Quote Chief Justice Rehnquist had argued that violating individual constitutional rights was justified because sobriety roadblocks were effective and necessary. But dissenting Justice Stevens pointed out that "the findings of the trial court, based on an extensive record and affirmed by the Michigan Court of Appeals, indicate that the net effect of sobriety checkpoints on traffic safety is infinitesimal and possibly negative." 3 And even if roadblocks were effective, the fact that they work wouldn’t justify violating individuals’ constitutional rights, justices argued.

http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/DrivingIssues/1103163004.html - http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/DrivingIssues/1103163004.ht ml
I'm all against drinking and driving, but these checkpoints are violating an individuals rights because we all know the end justifies the means.


If you have such a problem with the law go find a militia in Arizona and join it.

No thanks, I'll take my bill of rights though.


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Quote The matter is often hotly argued, with some reporting that roving patrols are the more effective way to identify impaired drivers. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, after extensive field studies, concluded that "the number of DWI arrests made by the roving patrol program was nearly three times the average number of DWI arrests made by the checkpoint programs".

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/research/ChekTenn/ChkptTN.html - http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/research/ChekTenn/Chk ptTN.html


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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 10:52pm
Originally posted by Sammy Sammy wrote:



Originally posted by 636andy636. 636andy636. wrote:


Originally posted by Sammy Sammy wrote:



Originally posted by 636andy636. 636andy636. wrote:

If you have not been drinking, there's nothing to worry about. The police are doing their jobs by having roadblocks. I mean, all they ever do with there time is pick on you since they have nothing else better to do.Suck it up and don't complain about them. They are for your own good and the safety of others.
As somebody stated earlier, the smallest amount of alcohol can get anybody under 21 a DUI, even if they are not impaired! If you have nothing to hide, are you going to let the cops search your house? How about your computer? Your porn collection? Pirated music collection? Why should your car/person be any different/
Does it matter if your impaired or not? No, since even if you blow .01 you are still doing something illegal. You got busted for something you were doing illegally. Your under 21, you should not have been drinking.<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">Mouthwash is illegal? A large percent of it is alcohol along with some breath mints and it is easily strong enough to make you blow a .01. </span>
Mouthwash and such wears off very quickly. Unless you used mouthwash, spit, and used the breathalyzer, you'd pass. I've done this in school
Will I let a on duty police officer in my house? No, because letting them in your house gives them the right to search your home. <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">Why is letting them give you a Breathalyzer any different? Driving should not merit random car searches and breath tests. </span>Cops can only search your stuff with your consent or a warrant.<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">If they have dogs at check points (I've seen em) and they smell something, they can legally search your car. No warrant, and the dogs can be wrong. </span>
Yes, the dogs give them reason to search, which is all they need. If they're wrong, and find nothing what are you crying about? If they're right, you're busted, you were playing the odds. If they were wrong frequently, and found something by fluke, you can have the case thrown out. It has happened in the past. The dog had a high rate of false positives, and the search was deemed illegal.
DUI check points are for public safety. To keep you from being hit by a drunk driver or you driving into someone else.<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">
Quote Chief Justice Rehnquist had argued that violating individual constitutional
               rights was justified because sobriety roadblocks were effective
               and necessary. But dissenting Justice Stevens pointed out that "the
               findings of the trial court, based on an extensive record and affirmed
               by the Michigan Court of Appeals, indicate that the net effect of
               sobriety checkpoints on traffic safety is infinitesimal and possibly
               negative." </span><a style="" class="ReferenceNumberSmall" href="http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/DrivingIssues/referen ces/1103163004.html#3">3</a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">
               And even if roadblocks were effective, the fact that they work wouldn’t
               justify violating individuals’ constitutional rights, justices
               argued.
</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"> http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/DrivingIssues/1103163004.html - http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/DrivingIssues/1103163004.ht ml </span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">I'm all against drinking and driving, but these checkpoints are violating an individuals rights because we all know the end justifies the means. </span>If you have such a problem with the law go find a militia in Arizona and join it.<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">No thanks, I'll take my bill of rights though. </span>
Also
Quote The matter is often hotly argued, with some reporting that roving
patrols are the more effective way to identify impaired drivers. The
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, after extensive field
studies, concluded that "the number of DWI arrests made by the roving
patrol program was nearly three times the average number of DWI arrests
made by the checkpoint programs".
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/research/ChekTenn/ChkptTN.html - http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/research/ChekTenn/Chk ptTN.html


Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 11:04pm
Quote A breath test may show an inaccurately high reading against you if you take the breath test shortly after your last drink. This is because of the high alcohol content lingering in the mouth, esophagus, and the upper digestive system. If you have used any kind of breath spray, mouthwash or even should you burp shortly before the breath test, then the reading could be inaccurately high against you. Both the blood and the urine samples will also show the presence of drugs as well as alcohol. However a breath test can only determine alcohol content and nothing about drugs. Whichever test you take must be given to you within 3 hours of when you were driving.

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Quote In another study, reported in 8(22) Drinking/Driving Law Letter 1, a scientist tested the effects of Binaca breath spray on an Intoxilyzer 5000. He performed 23 tests with subjects who sprayed their throats, and obtained readings as high as .81 — far beyond lethal levels. The scientist also noted that the effects of the spray did not fall below detectable levels until after 18 minutes.

Twenty minutes seems like alot..

Until evidence is shown that these checkpoints actual do some good, I am completely against something that violates my 4th amendment rights.



I'm fully for arresting people under the influence. I just don't think that check points are the way, especially if other ways have proven to be better!


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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 11:10pm

You silly people shouldn't drink and drive. You might spill your beer.

/sarcasm



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Posted By: jordanpischke
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 11:15pm
I drove through one when I was going home from hockey practice and one of my teammates was ahead of me and the guy didn't even ask me anything he just saw my hockey equipment and told me to go on through.

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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 29 July 2007 at 12:21am
The number of stories I hear from people saying "Man, I lucked out and didn't get caught' is proof to me that these have a place.

Driving on public roads is not a right- it's a privilege. You can always walk, bike, get a ride, hop a cab, public transport, or stay home. If you're drinking and driving, you put me and mine at risk, and you can live with the consequences when you get busted. End of story.


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Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 29 July 2007 at 12:45am
Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

You silly people shouldn't drink and drive. You might spill your beer.


/sarcasm



I'm not so worried about how many I kill, I'm much more concerned with how much beer I spill


Posted By: CarbineKid
Date Posted: 29 July 2007 at 12:39pm
DUI checkpoints: Personally I hate them. Its just a giant LEO fishing expedition. This coming form a pro-LEO guy.      


Posted By: little devil
Date Posted: 29 July 2007 at 1:47pm

a strong raw onion under the drivers seat

bite into that sucka and no cop will wanna get close enough to smell alcohol



Posted By: Apu
Date Posted: 29 July 2007 at 3:59pm
Checkpoints seem to be different in Canada than the states. In Virginia at least they're annoying as hell and can generally expect to sit through one for at least 20-30 minutes. I don't know about you guys but 20-30 minutes is plenty of time to be late for work, a lacrosse game or practice, school, class, etc.

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Posted By: TheSpookyKids87
Date Posted: 29 July 2007 at 7:15pm
I never had the experience of seeing or being in a checkpoint


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 29 July 2007 at 7:20pm
Originally posted by Sammy Sammy wrote:



Quote A breath test may show an inaccurately high
               reading against you if you take the breath test shortly after your
               last drink. This is because of the high alcohol content lingering
               in the mouth, esophagus, and the upper digestive system. If you
               have used any kind of breath spray, mouthwash or even should you
               burp shortly before the breath test, then the reading could be inaccurately
               high against you. Both the blood and the urine samples will also
               show the presence of drugs as well as alcohol. However a breath
               test can only determine alcohol content and nothing about drugs.
               Whichever test you take must be given to you within 3 hours of when
               you were driving.
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Quote In another study, reported in 8(22) Drinking/Driving Law Letter 1, a
scientist tested the effects of Binaca breath spray on an Intoxilyzer
5000. He performed 23 tests with subjects who sprayed their throats,
and obtained readings as high as .81 — far beyond lethal levels. The
scientist also noted that the effects of the spray did not fall below
detectable levels until after 18 minutes.
Twenty minutes seems like alot.. Until evidence is shown that these checkpoints actual do some good, I am completely against something that violates my 4th amendment rights. I'm fully for arresting people under the influence. I just don't think that check points are the way, especially if other ways have proven to be better!


I know in Virginia that if you are driving in your car, you automaticaly submit to being breathalized. Its written into the law that way, if you are driving, its illegal to refuse a breathalizer test, the only way you can refuse one is if you agree to a blood test at the station.

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Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 29 July 2007 at 7:58pm
Originally posted by little devil little devil wrote:

a strong raw onion under the drivers seat


bite into that sucka and no cop will wanna get close enough to smell alcohol



Or don't be so boozed up to have to eat a strong, raw onion?
And did you REALLY feel the need to type the word "sucka"?!?

Originally posted by Apu Apu wrote:

Checkpoints seem to be different in Canada than the states. In Virginia at least they're annoying as hell and can generally expect to sit through one for at least 20-30 minutes. I don't know about you guys but 20-30 minutes is plenty of time to be late for work, a lacrosse game or practice, school, class, etc.


That's my only real gripe with them. A busy DUI checkpoint can cause a delay at an inconvenient moment.


Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 29 July 2007 at 8:09pm
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Originally posted by Sammy Sammy wrote:



Quote A breath test may show an inaccurately high
                reading against you if you take the breath test shortly after your
                last drink. This is because of the high alcohol content lingering
                in the mouth, esophagus, and the upper digestive system. If you
                have used any kind of breath spray, mouthwash or even should you
                burp shortly before the breath test, then the reading could be inaccurately
                high against you. Both the blood and the urine samples will also
                show the presence of drugs as well as alcohol. However a breath
                test can only determine alcohol content and nothing about drugs.
                Whichever test you take must be given to you within 3 hours of when
                you were driving.
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Quote In another study, reported in 8(22) Drinking/Driving Law Letter 1, a
scientist tested the effects of Binaca breath spray on an Intoxilyzer
5000. He performed 23 tests with subjects who sprayed their throats,
and obtained readings as high as .81 — far beyond lethal levels. The
scientist also noted that the effects of the spray did not fall below
detectable levels until after 18 minutes.
Twenty minutes seems like alot.. Until evidence is shown that these checkpoints actual do some good, I am completely against something that violates my 4th amendment rights. I'm fully for arresting people under the influence. I just don't think that check points are the way, especially if other ways have proven to be better!


I know in Virginia that if you are driving in your car, you automaticaly submit to being breathalized. Its written into the law that way, if you are driving, its illegal to refuse a breathalizer test, the only way you can refuse one is if you agree to a blood test at the station.


Refusing a breathalyzer is the same as being drunk in some places.


Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 29 July 2007 at 8:11pm
Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:



Refusing a breathalyzer is the same as being drunk in some places.


Refusing a sobriety test is illegal in PA. You can refuse a breathalyzer if you agree to be taken in for a blood test.


Posted By: BooksAndLeaves
Date Posted: 29 July 2007 at 11:23pm
i usually just pass out or get a ride

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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 9:20pm
Story time.

My parents are having a party, several of my sisters friends also show up, all are over 21, none are driving. Someone's mom comes to pick them up, does not drink. They get pulled over upon leaving because at some point while making a turn, her wheel crosses over the yellow line. They take her out of the car, give her a field sobriety test, she's in her 50's and overweight, can't stand on one leg for 30 seconds. Down to the station she goes. Her daughter, who is actually drunk is left on the side of the road to call for a ride while they tow the car. She blows a .00 at the station. She couldn't get her car back until after noon the next day, she's out $180 for the towing. We had to send someone from the party to pick her up. Everybody had been drinking, so she got to be bait. Luckily the person who picked them up was able to pass a field sobriety test, which they gave to him on the spot.

I for one do not like to be inconvenienced by law enforcement when I've done nothing to arouse suspicion. If you're OK with being pulled over and having your car searched and being forced into doing roadside calisthenics at random with no probably cause I don't know what the hell is wrong with you. Would you object to having your home searched at random and your phone tapped as long as you had nothing illegal to hide? I guess if you have a problem with that you must be a criminal.


Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 31 July 2007 at 1:13am
Originally posted by rednekk98 rednekk98 wrote:

Story time.

My parents are having a party, several of my sisters friends also show up, all are over 21, none are driving. Someone's mom comes to pick them up, does not drink. They get pulled over upon leaving because at some point while making a turn, her wheel crosses over the yellow line. They take her out of the car, give her a field sobriety test, she's in her 50's and overweight, can't stand on one leg for 30 seconds. Down to the station she goes. Her daughter, who is actually drunk is left on the side of the road to call for a ride while they tow the car. She blows a .00 at the station. She couldn't get her car back until after noon the next day, she's out $180 for the towing. We had to send someone from the party to pick her up. Everybody had been drinking, so she got to be bait. Luckily the person who picked them up was able to pass a field sobriety test, which they gave to him on the spot.

I for one do not like to be inconvenienced by law enforcement when I've done nothing to arouse suspicion. If you're OK with being pulled over and having your car searched and being forced into doing roadside calisthenics at random with no probably cause I don't know what the hell is wrong with you. Would you object to having your home searched at random and your phone tapped as long as you had nothing illegal to hide? I guess if you have a problem with that you must be a criminal.


Absolutely not- but when using public roads with other people on them, you acept certain limitations, among which are granting the police the right to ensure your sobriety.

They can't search your car without grounds or your permission, so that's just hyperbole on your part. If you don't feel like doing a 'field test', offer to blow a breathalyzer and be on your way, get it over with immediately.

Ensuring compliance with laws that are routinely violated with tragic results, and searching one's home are two vastly different things. I as a private citizen have no way to protect myself from drunk drivers beyond simple vigilance and luck, so I entrust the police to do it for me.


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