Americans or Canadians
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Topic: Americans or Canadians
Posted By: Jason Doering
Subject: Americans or Canadians
Date Posted: 01 August 2007 at 10:49pm
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hey just wandering has more americans died in Afganistan or more Canadians im a canadian and so far 8 or more canadians died so far but what about americans?
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 01 August 2007 at 10:49pm
More Americans.
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Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 01 August 2007 at 10:50pm
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Trick question: Canada doesn't have an army.
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 01 August 2007 at 10:59pm
Are we in noob season already? Seem to be getting alot more lately.
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Posted By: sporx
Date Posted: 01 August 2007 at 11:01pm
^it's always n00b season.
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 01 August 2007 at 11:10pm
Americans. We stick our noses in everything alot more than you Canadians.
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Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 01 August 2007 at 11:17pm
bravecoward wrote:
Trick question: Canada doesn't have an army.
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 01 August 2007 at 11:20pm
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travis75 wrote:
bravecoward wrote:
Trick question: Canada doesn't have an army. | cue the brihard
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Army of One?
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Posted By: Jason Doering
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 12:21am
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acualy u would be surprised canadians have the best tanks in the world we have m16s and m4 assault rifles ,helicopters and we have health care lol o ya and for some reason american soldiers only have a bullet proof plate on there back i dont no why but judging by Black hawk down its so when there running away they dont get shot in the back but us canadians we have a front and back plate so maybe thats why we have less casualties
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Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 12:24am
Wow You kinda make us canadians look even worse then what we are
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Posted By: Hitman
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 12:25am
We have less people but better training from what I've heard. We don't streamline our people straight to over the sea.
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 12:26am
I think over 3000 US troops have died right?
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 12:27am
You're relying on a movie for info on the American army?
Wow.
Tell me, How is the Leopard 2 better then the M1A2?
Wow, you have helicopters? I wish my country could afford those. Man, must suck to be in the 160th SOAR and just driving around in little jeeps...
The US has lost more in Afghanistan. Want to know why? We have more there. Simple mathematics.
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Posted By: Jason Doering
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 12:32am
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o ya who ever said that canadians are better trained thats correct
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 12:34am
Jason Doering wrote:
o ya who ever said that canadians are better trained thats correct |
HA.
Training at a base is no substitute for the real thing. Sorry but no country has more combat experience as a whole then the US.
Want to try again with your pointless ramblings?
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 12:37am
Jason Doering wrote:
acualy u would be surprised canadians have the best tanks in the world we have m16s and m4 assault rifles ,helicopters and we have health care lol o ya and for some reason american soldiers only have a bullet proof plate on there back i dont no why but judging by Black hawk down its so when there running away they dont get shot in the back but us canadians we have a front and back plate so maybe thats why we have less casualties | Hmm I'd be impressed if we whernt the ones who invented the M16, and we have M4's and I dont know what tanks you guys got but good luck against an M1A1 Abrahms Tank... As to our battle armor I dont know much about what they're using now, but they're testing armor called dragon skin and its the best in the world, covers front and back and can take many many direct hits by even 7.62, 9mm, 5.56 rounds etc. Its amazing stuff. So dont try to brag about your military, cuz lets face it, here in the U.S. its the best in the world *feels all patriotic*
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Posted By: Kingtiger
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 12:39am
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i thought we used the M1A3 now
Edit note* dragon-skin (sp) can also withstand a grenade blast.
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 12:43am
Actually sneaky.. IIRC the Marine Corps no longer allows the use of Dragon Skin.
Canada has the Leopard 2 while the US has the M1A2 Abrams (Not the A1)
Between the LEO and the Abrams, it would be a close fight and a number of variable would affect it's outcome.
You have to remember, each country buys/builds it's military equipment to match it's style of fighting. The US style of fighting is combined arms, and the M1A2 is built to share info VERY quickly on the battlefield.
When in combat, CAS, CAP, and all other combined arms assets won't be too far off. It will never be a tank on tank situation.
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Posted By: Kingtiger
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 12:45am
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and why no more dragon-skin(sp)?
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Posted By: Jason Doering
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 12:46am
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hey buddy not trying to brag our contry isnt all about war we dont use all our money on guns
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 12:48am
Kingtiger wrote:
and why no more dragon-skin(sp)? |
Amazing, if only there was a place that helped you search the web by placing a couple of words into a box and hitting enter, then it brings back all relevant hits and shows you them. If only it had a cool name too.. like Giggle, of Frizzle.
http://op-for.com/2007/04/marine_corps_publishes_new_pol.html - Here you go
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Posted By: Jason Doering
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 12:55am
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ya dragon skin sounds a little like it was made up
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 12:56am
Jason Doering wrote:
ya dragon skin sounds a little like it was made up |
Wow you're a retard.
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Posted By: Jason Doering
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 12:59am
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im a retard your the **edited** who made up dragon skin
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:03am
1) No I didn't.
2) Google Dragon Skin
3) Enjoy your strike.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:03am
OMG, I'm gonna flip out.
OK, son. First off it's 66 canadian soldiers and a diplomat dead.
Second, we don't use M16s and M4s. We use C7s and C8s, which, while variants of those weapons, have been pretty heavily tuned by Colt Canada (formerly Diemaco).
Our helicopters are unarmed and unarmoured, and can carry up to eight soldiers in them. The armoured versions can only carry four troops, and they don't have enough thrust to operate inAfghanistan effectively, as it's too high above sea level.
Our tanks are mediocre. We've been using the Leopard C2, which is a Leopard 1 chassis with a Leopard 2 (A5?) turret. We've just bought/leased a number of late model Leopard 2s, which will see service late in the year once our crews and techs finish their training in Germany. Even then we will by no means have 'the best tanks in the world'. The Leopard 2 is a damned good tank for sure, but it's not out and out the best.
The American interceptor armour has plate inserts in both the front and back. Don't you even think about talking crap about the American troops- many of them have given their lives, many more than have Canadians. Don't go talking smack about their soldiers when clearly you aren't in the forces yourself. Hit a recruiting center, put a few years in and THEN we'll talk about the Americans.
Dragon Skin is a very well known kind of ballistic armour that has been used by many agencies, including CIA and I believe the secret service. It's been trialled by the U.S. armed forces, but generally rejected due to discrepancies in some of the test results.
Any more questions?
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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:06am
Linus wrote:
Training at a base is no substitute for the real thing. Sorry but no country has more combat experience as a whole then the US. |
So you are meaning to tell me that the United States, a country that has been here for little over two centuries, has more combat experience than countries that have been here for countless more centuries?
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:06am
brihard wrote:
Hit a recruiting center, put a few years in
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Or like me, 12 weeks.
That's the one thing civilians will never understand, Bri, is the brotherhood between the services, no matter what country.
I remember something on TV a while ago, and a US general said that he was talking to a counterpart in France and the French General said that he was mad at his country. He and his soldier's wanted to be on the ground in Iraq with their American allies because he know's we would have done the same thing for them.
Hysteria... Let me rephrase what I said before. The US has the most modern combat experience in the world today, bar none.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:09am
Hysteria wrote:
Linus wrote:
Training at a base is no substitute for the real thing. Sorry but no country has more combat experience as a whole then the US. |
So you are meaning to tell me that the United States, a country that has been here for little over two centuries, has more combat experience than countries that have been here for countless more centuries?
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Correct. Combat experience is only valid/useful for about one generation- tactics and technology shift too rapidly for it to be otherwise.
The United States is arguably the most combat experienced military in the world, due mostly to Iraq. No other developed nation has as many combat blooded soldiers.
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Posted By: Jason Doering
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:10am
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holy u no your stuff and i no what the c-7 is its bacically a copy of the m-16 and the c-8 is almost like the m4
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:11am
Dragon Skin is amazing.
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:11am
Jason Doering wrote:
holy u no your stuff and i no what the c-7 is its bacically a copy of the m-16 and the c-8 is almost like the m4 |
Thanks for re-iterating, almost word for word, what Bri said in his post already. I didn't catch it the first, and more legible, time.
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Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:13am
brihard wrote:
OMFG, I'm gonna flip out.
OK, son. First off it's 66 canadian soldiers and a diplomat dead.
Second, we don't use M16s and M4s. We use C7s and C8s, which, while variants of those weapons, have been pretty heavily tuned by Colt Canada (formerly Diemaco).
Our helicopters are unarmed and unarmoured, and can carry up to eight soldiers in them. The armoured versions can only carry four troops, and they don't have enough thrust to operate inAfghanistan effectively, as it's too high above sea level.
Our tanks are mediocre. We've been using the Leopard C2, which is a Leopard 1 chassis with a Leopard 2 (A5?) turret. We've just bought/leased a number of late model Leopard 2s, which will see service late in the year once our crews and techs finish their training in Germany. Even then we will by no means have 'the best tanks in the world'. The Leopard 2 is a damned good tank for sure, but it's not out and out the best.
The American interceptor armour has plate inserts in both the front and back. Don't you even think about talking crap about the American troops- many of them have given their lives, many more than have Canadians. Don't go talking smack about their soldiers when clearly you aren't in the forces yourself. Hit a recruiting center, put a few years in and THEN we'll talk about the Americans.
Dragon Skin is a very well known kind of ballistic armour that has been used by many agencies, including CIA and I believe the secret service. It's been trialled by the U.S. armed forces, but generally rejected due to discrepancies in some of the test results.
Any more questions?
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Brihard Thank you!!!
As I said before you should Shut up and take your loss. You tried to be cool with your fake knowledge and look what it got you. I suggest know one feed this troll. You are just making yourself look like a fool. Enjoy your strike.
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Posted By: Kingtiger
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:14am
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:15am
Jason Doering wrote:
holy u no your stuff and i no what the c-7 is its bacically a copy of the m-16 and the c-8 is almost like the m4 |
Yes, but it's a distinct weapon- different sights, different trigger group (full auto as opposed to burst), different rail mount on top (Canadian standard Weaver as opposed to an actual M1913 std), in the case of the C8 a very different barrel, and a hundred other mechanical differences.
I would kind of hope I know my stuff... You don't put idiots in charge of infantry sections.
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Posted By: Jason Doering
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:21am
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ok ok i'd like to make an apolagy i dont no <poopy> about the americans or canadians army. hell i dont even no what a leapard is but i plan on being in 1 rcr
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:21am
So Linus, when do you deploy?
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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:22am
brihard wrote:
Correct.
Combat experience is only valid/useful for about one generation-
tactics and technology shift too rapidly for it to be otherwise.
The
United States is arguably the most combat experienced military in the
world, due mostly to Iraq. No other developed nation has as many combat
blooded soldiers.
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Old experience serves no practical purpose, as you said, but it is
experience all the same. While you have an intimate knowledge of
Photoshop, something useful today, Rambino may have the same amount of
knowledge when dealing with 8 tracks, records and all things olde.
While his knowledge would serve no practical purpose, to say he would
be less experienced than you is ludicrous.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:24am
Jason Doering wrote:
ok ok i'd like to make an apolagy i dont no shi$ about the americans or canadians army. hell i dont even no what a leapard is but i plan on being in 1 rcr |
If you join up and get accepted you can give a preference for regiment- if you ask for RCR you'll probably get it - but you don't get much say in your battalion. They might send you to 1st or 3rd in Petawawa, or you might land with 2nd in Gagetown. Or some joker might send you to the PPCLI in Edmonton or Shiloh.
Apology accepted.
From your profile I see that you turn 16 shortly. Have you thought about giving the reserves a try?
EDIT TO ADD: Hysteria-
True enough- we're debating semantics, I guess. We're on the same page
though; I get what you're saying and you're right. I was just counting
relevant experience...
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Posted By: Jason Doering
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:25am
Posted By: Jack Carver
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:26am
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According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diemaco_C7 - wiki , yeah, it's either single shot or automatic.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:27am
Jason Doering wrote:
is the c-7 automatic |
It's got both repetition (semi auto) and automatic, but you'll almost never use automatic. The new close quarters shooting drills use repetition only, so that you can control and be accontable for every round you fire. We can't afford to have someone spray a room and waste a kid. You'd be surprised how quickly and accurately you can fire on semi auto.
Shooting auto is hella fun though. 
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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:30am
brihard wrote:
True enough- we're debating semantics, I guess. We're on the same page
though; I get what you're saying and you're right. I was just counting
relevant experience...
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And as far as that goes, you are most definitely right. Anyone who would dispute that is a fool.
Besides, aren't semantics the most fun things to argue about? Debating
whether a color is red or blue might get old real fast.
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Posted By: Jason Doering
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:32am
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and ya i want to do 4rcr which is reserves for infantry
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:33am
Jason Doering wrote:
and ya i want to do 4rcr which is reserves for infantry
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:33am
Jason Doering wrote:
and ya i want to do 4rcr which is reserves for infantry
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LOL, I know very well who 4RCR are- I just came off my master corporal's course with a bunch of them. Good crowd. You're in/around London then I presume?
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Posted By: Jason Doering
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:36am
Posted By: Jason Doering
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:38am
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i was also thinking JTF2 if u no any thing about that its joint task force 2 which i think is a canadian us navy seals if im right but i could be rong.
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Posted By: Jason Doering
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:43am
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o ya and if your in the army do u get a pick of if u want a c-8 or c-7
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Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:55am
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You get a seal club and a whale-bone knife.
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Posted By: ANARCHY_SCOUT
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 3:13am
I Brihard.
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 4:55am
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Well, at least he's not trolling anymore...
One suggestion: Use grammar and punctuation. It really helps us understand you and answer your questions. Plus, it makes you look more intelligent. It's a forum, you have all day to type a response. This isn't instant messaging.
Also, I feel the need to point out the edit button below your posts...
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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 6:02am
Linus wrote:
Jason Doering wrote:
o ya who ever said that canadians are better trained thats correct |
HA.
Training at a base is no substitute for the real thing. Sorry but no country has more combat experience as a whole then the US.
Want to try again with your pointless ramblings?
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That whole combat experience thing could be hotly debated. I would have to say that either Japan or China as a whole has more combat experience, since they were in civil war for thousands of years.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 10:15am
Jason Doering wrote:
i was also thinking JTF2 if u no any thing about that its joint task
force 2 which i think is a canadian us navy seals if im right but i
could be rong.
o ya and if your in the army do u get a pick of if u want a c-8 or c-7 |
JTF2 has a mixed counterterrorism and military combat role. The best comparison would probably be the British SAS, or for the Americans, a combination of what Delta and U.S. Army Special Forces do. Probably not as much amphibious stuff as the SEALs, but I may be mistaken. Very versatile
I would worry about getting into the army first before you go thinking about getting into any of the 'high speed' units. Selection is exceptionally competitive. Within the past year we also started up the Canadian Special Operations Regiment, which is a second tier outfit- similar to the U.S. Army Rangers. CSOR seems to double as the JTF2 'farm team'.
Probably a third of the kids I've taught in basic training wanted to be snipers, or join JTF or whatever. If I taught ten basic courses, I'd be surprised if one of those kids ever made it. Being infantry is challenging enough.
As for choosing your weapon, no. You'll be issued a weapon (generally either a C7 or a C9 light machinegun) depending on what your job is in the section. Overseas many guys with C7s have been able to get C8s instead of C7s, but that hinges on whether there are any available to be issued out. You might have an M203 as well. You might be in a platoon or company weapons detachment and have to carry an anti armour weapon, or a mortar, or a general purpose machinegun, or a machinegun tripod, or even just mule a whole lot of ammo for one of the above.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here- were you in cadets?
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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 10:50am
Ghost-Rider wrote:
Dragon Skin is amazing.
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Dragon skin is a lotta hype. Untill I see it go against Rifle Rounds and other fun stuff it's just hype. I havent seen many Insurgents or Armies that field their troops with .45acp pistols.
Interceptor is a good piece of gear. It isnt a miracle fix but it's way better than what we had when I was in Bosnia wich was a Flak Jacket that was so old I doubt it could had stoped any frag.
I know many a good brothers who are alive because of the Interceptor. A bummer they cant buy commercial gear. We always uased aftermarket kit because the old 782 gear sucked so much and was so worn and beaten from training that we didnt trust it.
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 11:04am
Man Bites Dog wrote:
So Linus, when do you deploy?
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We've gone over this before.
TheGuy wrote:
That whole combat experience thing could be hotly debated. I would have to say that either Japan or China as a whole has more combat experience, since they were in civil war for thousands of years. |
As Brihard stated before, experience only last about one generation do to shifting technology and tactics. And as I stated before, I meant to say modern combat.
Trust me, what the Japanese learned with the Samurai, and that the Chinese learned the with Boxers, has very little effect on combat now-a-days. Well, except for the fact that guns > swords.
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:36pm
Linus wrote:
Man Bites Dog wrote:
So Linus, when do you deploy?
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We've gone over this before.
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Just keeping your ego at a healthy level in the military threads.
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:46pm
brihard wrote:
Shooting auto is hella fun though. 
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Ture dat.
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 1:58pm
Man Bites Dog wrote:
Linus wrote:
Man Bites Dog wrote:
So Linus, when do you deploy?
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We've gone over this before.
| Just keeping your ego at a healthy level in the military threads. |
You have about as much room to talk on that matter that Jason does.
IE..very little.
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 2:01pm
Linus wrote:
Man Bites Dog wrote:
Linus wrote:
Man Bites Dog wrote:
So Linus, when do you deploy?
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We've gone over this before.
| Just keeping your ego at a healthy level in the military threads. |
You have about as much room to talk on that matter that Jason does. |
Pardon?
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 2:04pm
Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 2:15pm
I was actually asking for further explanation.
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 2:20pm
Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 2:23pm
Nope, and yet I will still probably go to Iraq before you will.
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 2:26pm
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You havn't joined, probably won't join if I am not mistaken, yet you are saying me, a person who DID join of his own free will, and discharged AGAINST his will, can't talk about like he maybe somehow KNOWS a thing or two about the military? That makes sense...
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 2:28pm
Linus wrote:
You havn't joined, probably won't join if I am not mistaken, yet you are saying me, a person who DID join of his own free will, and discharged AGAINST his will, can't talk about like he maybe somehow KNOWS a thing or two about the military? That makes sense... |
Big difference between talking about and having an inflated-ego while talking about.
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 2:45pm
Put me in Coach, I am ready to play!
Sorry, kid back to the bench you go.
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Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 3:40pm
GO CANADA!!!!! YOU RULE
DONT WORRY AMERICA YOU RULE TO(you just dont have bevers and mooses)
Had to say it
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 3:43pm
We have plenty of beavers and moose.
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Posted By: Jason Doering
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 4:34pm
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 4:39pm
Linus, how long were you in?
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Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: Jason Doering
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 4:41pm
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crap ok about jtf2 i want to know more about it
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Posted By: Jack Carver
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 4:41pm
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So did you get a medical discharge or something? I don't remember hearing about it.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 4:47pm
Jason Doering wrote:
crap ok about jtf2 i want to know more about it |
There's not much more to know... It's extremely hard to get into, does lots of difficult work we'll never hear about. Anything you hear beyond that is mostly speculation or lacking in details.
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-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: Jason Doering
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 4:51pm
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ok thanx for trying to help, know how much do u know about rcr i pretty much want to know every thing.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 4:56pm
Jason Doering wrote:
ok thanx for trying to help, know how much do u know about rcr i pretty much want to know every thing. |
LOL... You'll find out when you need to find out. 4 RCR is a reserve infantry regiment like any other reserve infantry regiment, except with a slightly higher proportion of regular force NCOs working with them. 1, 2, and 3 RCR are all solid infantry batallions.
I could tell you all kinds of thigns about the RCR, but it really wouldn't do anything to help you out. Just wait out til you're 16, join the reserves, put some time in, learn the same way everyone else does, then when you hit 18 put in for a component transfer to the regs.
There's a simple rule of thumb in the forces; everything you need to know you will be taught. Don't bombard yourself with information that will be useless for the next several years.
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: Jason Doering
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 5:03pm
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ok one last question say i wanted to be 4 rcr and i wanted to be a rifle man with a c-7 or c-8 whats the chance of me getting that and i live out side woodstock were would i go to apply
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 5:18pm
Jason Doering wrote:
ok one last question say i wanted to be 4 rcr and i wanted to be a rifle man with a c-7 or c-8 whats the chance of me getting that and i live out side woodstock were would i go to apply |
In a reserve unit you'll spend most of your pre-leadership time as a rifleman, but you'll carry other weapons from time to time as well.
http://www.4rcr.ca/recruiting.html - http://www.4rcr.ca/recruiting.html
For some reason it says 17, but you should be fine at 16.
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: Jason Doering
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 5:21pm
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ok thanx im looking at your site ill stop asking questions
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 7:12pm
Evil Elvis wrote:
Ghost-Rider wrote:
Dragon Skin is amazing.
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Dragon skin is a lotta hype. Untill I see it go against Rifle Rounds and other fun stuff it's just hype. I havent seen many Insurgents or Armies that field their troops with .45acp pistols.
Interceptor is a good piece of gear. It isnt a miracle fix but it's way better than what we had when I was in Bosnia wich was a Flak Jacket that was so old I doubt it could had stoped any frag.
I know many a good brothers who are alive because of the Interceptor. A bummer they cant buy commercial gear. We always uased aftermarket kit because the old 782 gear sucked so much and was so worn and beaten from training that we didnt trust it. |
Yeah, i really like the interceptor system, i have a story about it.
We were doing a block party in Ramadi, i was on a stack, we rushed a center fed room, the guy in front of me, 3rd man from the front, we walked into a center fed room, someone poped out from another section of the house firing an AK, one of his rounds hit the soldier in front of me in the top left section of his IBA.. He went down, the bullet did not penetrate, but what did happen was the ballistic plate bent and splintered and ended up piercing his heart, he was a great guy, loved to smile.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 7:53pm
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DBibeau855 wrote:
Evil Elvis wrote:
Ghost-Rider wrote:
Dragon Skin is amazing.
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Dragon skin is a lotta hype. Untill I see it go against Rifle Rounds and other fun stuff it's just hype. I havent seen many Insurgents or Armies that field their troops with .45acp pistols.
Interceptor is a good piece of gear. It isnt a miracle fix but it's way better than what we had when I was in Bosnia wich was a Flak Jacket that was so old I doubt it could had stoped any frag.
I know many a good brothers who are alive because of the Interceptor. A bummer they cant buy commercial gear. We always uased aftermarket kit because the old 782 gear sucked so much and was so worn and beaten from training that we didnt trust it. |
Yeah, i really like the interceptor system, i have a story about it.
We were doing a block party in Ramadi, i was on a stack, we rushed a center fed room, the guy in front of me, 3rd man from the front, we walked into a center fed room, someone poped out from another section of the house firing an AK, one of his rounds hit the soldier in front of me in the top left section of his IBA.. He went down, the bullet did not penetrate, but what did happen was the ballistic plate bent and splintered and ended up piercing his heart, he was a great guy, loved to smile. |
What the hell is an interrogator doing in a stack? With your MOS you really have no business doing crap like that...
I'm sorry to hear about your buddy, though.
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 7:54pm
brihard wrote:
DBibeau855 wrote:
Evil Elvis wrote:
Ghost-Rider wrote:
Dragon Skin is amazing. | Dragon skin is a lotta hype. Untill I see it go against Rifle Rounds and other fun stuff it's just hype. I havent seen many Insurgents or Armies that field their troops with .45acp pistols. Interceptor is a good piece of gear. It isnt a miracle fix but it's way better than what we had when I was in Bosnia wich was a Flak Jacket that was so old I doubt it could had stoped any frag. I know many a good brothers who are alive because of the Interceptor. A bummer they cant buy commercial gear. We always uased aftermarket kit because the old 782 gear sucked so much and was so worn and beaten from training that we didnt trust it. | Yeah, i really like the interceptor system, i have a story about it. We were doing a block party in Ramadi, i was on a stack, we rushed a center fed room, the guy in front of me, 3rd man from the front, we walked into a center fed room, someone poped out from another section of the house firing an AK, one of his rounds hit the soldier in front of me in the top left section of his IBA.. He went down, the bullet did not penetrate, but what did happen was the ballistic plate bent and splintered and ended up piercing his heart, he was a great guy, loved to smile. |
What the hell is an interrogator doing in a stack? With your MOS you really have no business doing crap like that...
I'm sorry to hear about your buddy, though. |
He's hasnt even hit his first EAS (End of Active Service) . Maybee because he's the Boot of the Unit. Those are who we usually throw on point.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 7:58pm
Evil Elvis wrote:
brihard wrote:
DBibeau855 wrote:
Evil Elvis wrote:
Ghost-Rider wrote:
Dragon Skin is amazing. | Dragon skin is a lotta hype. Untill I see it go against Rifle Rounds and other fun stuff it's just hype. I havent seen many Insurgents or Armies that field their troops with .45acp pistols. Interceptor is a good piece of gear. It isnt a miracle fix but it's way better than what we had when I was in Bosnia wich was a Flak Jacket that was so old I doubt it could had stoped any frag. I know many a good brothers who are alive because of the Interceptor. A bummer they cant buy commercial gear. We always uased aftermarket kit because the old 782 gear sucked so much and was so worn and beaten from training that we didnt trust it. | Yeah, i really like the interceptor system, i have a story about it. We were doing a block party in Ramadi, i was on a stack, we rushed a center fed room, the guy in front of me, 3rd man from the front, we walked into a center fed room, someone poped out from another section of the house firing an AK, one of his rounds hit the soldier in front of me in the top left section of his IBA.. He went down, the bullet did not penetrate, but what did happen was the ballistic plate bent and splintered and ended up piercing his heart, he was a great guy, loved to smile. |
What the hell is an interrogator doing in a stack? With your MOS you really have no business doing crap like that...
I'm sorry to hear about your buddy, though.
| He's hasnt even hit his first EAS (End of Active Service) . Maybee because he's the Boot of the Unit. Those are who we usually throw on point. |
My point still stands... An intel unit shouldn't be doing 'block parties', unless I'm grossly mistaken- unless the desperation for troops is that bad?
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 8:05pm
brihard wrote:
Evil Elvis wrote:
brihard wrote:
DBibeau855 wrote:
Evil Elvis wrote:
Ghost-Rider wrote:
Dragon Skin is amazing. | Dragon skin is a lotta hype. Untill I see it go against Rifle Rounds and other fun stuff it's just hype. I havent seen many Insurgents or Armies that field their troops with .45acp pistols. Interceptor is a good piece of gear. It isnt a miracle fix but it's way better than what we had when I was in Bosnia wich was a Flak Jacket that was so old I doubt it could had stoped any frag. I know many a good brothers who are alive because of the Interceptor. A bummer they cant buy commercial gear. We always uased aftermarket kit because the old 782 gear sucked so much and was so worn and beaten from training that we didnt trust it. | Yeah, i really like the interceptor system, i have a story about it. We were doing a block party in Ramadi, i was on a stack, we rushed a center fed room, the guy in front of me, 3rd man from the front, we walked into a center fed room, someone poped out from another section of the house firing an AK, one of his rounds hit the soldier in front of me in the top left section of his IBA.. He went down, the bullet did not penetrate, but what did happen was the ballistic plate bent and splintered and ended up piercing his heart, he was a great guy, loved to smile. |
What the hell is an interrogator doing in a stack? With your MOS you really have no business doing crap like that...
I'm sorry to hear about your buddy, though.
| He's hasnt even hit his first EAS (End of Active Service) . Maybee because he's the Boot of the Unit. Those are who we usually throw on point. |
My point still stands... An intel unit shouldn't be doing 'block parties', unless I'm grossly mistaken- unless the desperation for troops is that bad? |
Oh I hear you when I was in the Grunts all the Intel Bubbas do was ride arround rag top hummers and set up GP tents and play solitare. Then after patrols they come and debrief us.
Maybee he meant to say while playing America's Army. Hear the US Army is all about CS clones now days.
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 8:14pm
Block parties are a great way to talk to a source, what you do is talk to everyone on the block so that you dont have a bunch of green suiters talking to one guy over and over and over. Its to protect the iraqi people that want to help us.
My MOS is getting more and more tactical every day, interrogations on the objective are becoming more and more common.
And also, 97E, interrogations are not all that we do, we are becoming more and more like 96Bs, the civilian contractors from firms like OSIRIS, CACI, OBERON ect ect, they do the brunt of the interrogation work.
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Posted By: Ben Dover1
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 10:04pm
i didnt read all of it but a few posts. Let me point out the fact that we are the greatest army in the world, with the most advanced technolegy to defend are selves, and what dose canada guna do? stones and a slingshot? or catopolts that launch sap? or maby they can push someone over?
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Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 10:06pm
Ben Dover1 wrote:
i didnt read all of it but a few posts. Let me point out the fact that we are the greatest army in the world, with the most advanced technolegy to defend are selves, and what dose canada guna do? stones and a slingshot? or catopolts that launch sap? or maby they can push someone over? |
You're an idiot.
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 10:23pm
brihard wrote:
Linus, how long were you in?
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Posted By: Jason Doering
Date Posted: 02 August 2007 at 11:41pm
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how long were u in for u didnt tell me
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Posted By: Ben Dover1
Date Posted: 03 August 2007 at 4:30pm
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Brian Fellows wrote:
Ben Dover1 wrote:
i didnt read all of it but a few posts. Let me point out the fact that we are the greatest army in the world, with the most advanced technolegy to defend are selves, and what dose canada guna do? stones and a slingshot? or catopolts that launch sap? or maby they can push someone over? |
You're an idiot.
| ya and your gay so what difference dose it make.
<strike for you. lay off the sexual slurs.> huh?
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Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 03 August 2007 at 4:34pm
Ben Dover1 wrote:
Brian Fellows wrote:
Ben Dover1 wrote:
i didnt read all of it but a few posts. Let me point out the fact that we are the greatest army in the world, with the most advanced technolegy to defend are selves, and what dose canada guna do? stones and a slingshot? or catopolts that launch sap? or maby they can push someone over? |
You're an idiot.
| ya and your gay so what difference dose it make. |
Trying to get guested again, are we?
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Posted By: Ben Dover1
Date Posted: 03 August 2007 at 4:35pm
Brian Fellows wrote:
Ben Dover1 wrote:
Brian Fellows wrote:
Ben Dover1 wrote:
i didnt read all of it but a few posts. Let me point out the fact that we are the greatest army in the world, with the most advanced technolegy to defend are selves, and what dose canada guna do? stones and a slingshot? or catopolts that launch sap? or maby they can push someone over? |
You're an idiot.
| ya and your gay so what difference dose it make. |
Trying to get guested again, are we?
| maby
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 04 August 2007 at 11:17am
Ben Dover1 wrote:
i didnt read all of it but a few posts. Let me point out the fact that we are the greatest army in the world, with the most advanced technolegy to defend are selves, and what dose canada guna do? stones and a slingshot? or catopolts that launch sap? or maby they can push someone over? |
LOL at e-penis.
This lad isn't fit to serve in *any* army, I'm rather sure, so I won't bother getting defensive about this one...
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 04 August 2007 at 11:29am
Sorry if were past this but to those who said they think dragon skin is all hype.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYaSRIbPWkM - Dragon Skin Video Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_HRQNd84ZA - Dragon Skin Video Part 2
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 04 August 2007 at 12:22pm
I know a few people who've been saved by the interceptor armor, and at least one who's been saved by the better kevlar helmets(US army adopted a smaller profile helmet for infantry with less neck and ear coverage for better motion and hearing using better kevlar, USMC retained old helmet profile, used better kevlar). The interceptor stuff is even stopping 7.62X54mm light ball ammo from sniper rifles in cases. If dragon skin could stop 7.62X54mm heavy ball ammo, I'd be impressed.
The C7/C8 series has some advantages over the M-16 A2/A4/M4 rifles. Aren't C7 barrels thick under the handgaurds? A semi/full auto trigger group has some advantages. The M-16's with 3rnd burst have a poorly designed burst setting, that among other things, can give you three different rotating trigger pulls. Then again, I was told I'd never use it except once at A-line BWT just to show me how much it sucks.
I'd think linus was in training long enough to get it, I hardly think he's talking like a combat vet. DEP and recruit training are in a large part, cultural indoctrination.
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 04 August 2007 at 12:49pm
Ghost-Rider wrote:
Sorry if were past this but to those who said they think dragon skin is all hype.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYaSRIbPWkM - Dragon Skin Video Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_HRQNd84ZA - Dragon Skin Video Part 2
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OH HEY, it's whispering guy!
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