Geogia Confederate licence plate.
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Topic: Geogia Confederate licence plate.
Posted By: Da Hui
Subject: Geogia Confederate licence plate.
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 6:54pm
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http://motor.etax.dor.ga.gov/motor/plates/plate.asp?ptitle=CV - Kinda odd I didn't think they would put said flag on a plate. I was wrong. 
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Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 6:56pm
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That won't last long. ------------- 
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Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 6:56pm
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Fascinating. ------------- "No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable." |
Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 6:58pm
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Yay for the dumb southerners that lost the war.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 6:58pm
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 7:14pm
People have been trying for years and years now to get these out of Florida:  ------------- 
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 7:17pm
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Why put bold political statements on a license of any kind? Lame. ------------- 
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Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 7:24pm
wait... are you against their freedom to express their ideas? ------------- 
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Man Bites Dog wrote:Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 7:35pm
I own that flag. Says "Rebel Blood in my Veins" "Yankee Blood in my Yard" Yea, I own pretty hard. And yes I'm from Chicago. |
Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 7:49pm
On state printed and issued license plates, yes. -------------
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 7:53pm
Putting religious slogans, or slogans like that on a government issued object isn't kosher. Keeping church and state seperate my ass. |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 8:01pm
Not everyone against abortion is against it for religious reasons. Church isn't the issue here. On the other hand, unless another design supporting choice is equally available, I would disagree with it as well. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 8:01pm
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I'm not for the Confederate flag,
BUT if the ACLU tries to touch the fact of there being religious license plates, then they will have overstepped their boundaries. |
Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 8:04pm
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Pfft-everybody knows that all conservative ideas are based entirely on religion. We can't think for ourselves, noob.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 8:09pm
I don't think either should be available, leave it to bumper stickers, not the government. |
Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 8:15pm
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This isn't a fact of forcing someone to do something they don't want to.
If you don't want the plate, don't ask for it and don't shell out the $$ for it. |
Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 8:28pm
State issued license plates should not have moral/ethical slogans on them. It serves no point and acts as a declaration of view. -------------
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 8:29pm
How is that overstepping their boundaries? -------------
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 8:37pm
| Last I checked you had a choice in what license plate you received, or is that just Michigan? |
Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 9:00pm
You have a choice, however, it still stands that the state should not be printing state-issued license tags with moral/ethical jargons on them. I cannot spell it out any clearer. -------------
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 9:03pm
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Rewmmember the display of a official national heritage symbol is not illegal, yet. The Confederate Flag as used as a symbol of National Heritage is a symbol from History. The interpatation of the symbol is up to the viewer and again that silly 1st Admendment thing. ------------- 
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 9:07pm
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The Confederate Flag, as much as I might not like it, I don't mind it on a license tag in a state with a history under that flag. I see that as much different that "Choose Life" and other such moral slogans. -------------
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Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 9:16pm
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I want one that says "Choose Death", colored red.
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 9:20pm
To bad we totally kicked the souths ass in the civil war. -------------
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Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 9:46pm
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I think this is the key. I am torn on the "Choose Life" and conferederate flag plates in a vacuum, but the clincher is that the state doesn't offer infinite choice. If you truly had the ability to design your own plate, vanity plate style, that would be one matter, but you can't. Unless the state offers "Black Panther" or "Black Power" plates and "Impeach Bush" plates, to go with the confederate/life plates, then the state is making a choice for you. By limiting your choices, the state is promoting a certain point of view, and that strikes me as inappropriate. Somehow I am not bothered by the "local sports team" vanity plate. Not sure exactly how that is different, but I think it is. ------------- "No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable." |
Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 9:57pm
| No one is forced to look at other people's license plates. If you don't want to see that kind of stuff on license plates, don't look at them. |
Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 10:03pm
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I don't agree that the state is forcing an opinion onto you by offering a license plate that declares a certain opinion. You aren't required to buy it, it's merely an option. Some make the argument that they should have something to represent the opposing belief as well but honestly, who cares. If they had a plate that had jewish symbols all over it and no other religious plates should the christians complain? How about the hundreds of other religious organizations? They could, but then they'd be oversensitive and stupid. Asking them to represent everything or nothing is ridiculous. As long as they don't put out anything offensive or something I don't see why it matters. I personally couldn't care less what people put on their license plates, that's their choice. I see what you guys are saying and I agree that it could be viewed as an endorsement of a certain idea or belief but I don't think it's part of some campaign to convert the masses to agree with what the state believes. They probably did it because they thought people would like it and you know what, a lot of southerners probably would like it.
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Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 10:12pm
Actually, after reading a book about military strategy which had a buttload of examples from the civil war, I'd have to disagree. The south had some excellent strategists (Lee, Jackson, etc.) and there was one battle that could quite likely have cost us the war but a miscommunication by the confederates saved us. They basically had a chance to get a crapload of our guys surrounded and cut off and I believe it was Jackson who came up with the strategy that would have surely led to a slaughter of Union soldiers but something went wrong. I believe there was some friendly fire involved among other issues and the plan was not carried out as intended. I can't remember the battle and I don't feel like looking it up but I assure you I'm not making that up. Anyway, the point is that even though the North came out victorious overall, the South did some serious damage to our side. /sidenote that most people probably don't care about ------------- oreomann33: Everybody invades Poland Rofl_Mao: And everyone eats turkey Me: But only if they're hungary Mack: Yeah but hungary people go russian through their food and end up with greece on everyth |
Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 10:50pm
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It's not that the state is forcing a certain opinion upon anybody, it's that they imply support for certain beliefs by offering those plates and not others. Every plate stamped with an opinion is an implicit approval of that opinion - or at least not disapproval. Simply by offering the confederate option, they are offering support for the "heritage, not hate" opinion. I hope we can all agree that a "homosexuality is a sin" license plate would be out of bounds, for instance. Because even though that plate would be optional, its very existence is inappropriate. ------------- "No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable." |
Posted By: STOcocker
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 11:00pm
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It doesn't surprise me at all. This is coming from the state that changed from the Confederate battle flag on its state flag to a regular confederate flag because people complained. The best part about it is that most Georgians have no idea that the current flag also represents the confederate. Pics: Official Conferderate flag  New Georgia State flag:  |
Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 11:06pm
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I'm really iffy on this.I personally dont find the Confederate Battle Standard offensive. Since I read all about the US Civil War as a kid. Of course I have never been the victim of any kind of Hate behaviour under that banner.
Since this is the actual flag of the Southern Confedarecy. 
Of course a quick google search will quickly link you to both sides of the Issue. So the verdict is still out on this. But I am sure that many of the Law Obiding, Tax paying recidents of Georgia will feel betrayed. I just hope they remember that next election. ------------- 
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Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 11:08pm
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That's hysterical. ------------- "No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable." |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 11:16pm
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Symbolism, what is the big issue. Many States offer vanity plates, buy them, support the state DMV with the extra fees, maybe improve something.
We see the Mexican, Dominican, Honduran etc flag on many autos and not a wimper, show a flag from our history and a storm brews by the PC crowd. BTW slavery exsisted under the Stars and Stripes a lot longer than the @4 years of the Stars and Bars or Confederate Battle Flag. Flush a Koran =Hate Speech, Pee on a Bible = Art, I missed that day in 1st Admendment Class on Symbols and Protections. -------------
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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 11:33pm
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If I didn't knew that you type half the things you do to get a rise out of people I'd be shocked. But I'll bite.
To Urinate on the Bible is a Hate crime as well under the Hate Crimes Bill. Symbolism is a great issue. Ask any Jewish Holocaust survivor what the piece of History such as the Nazi Swashtika means to him. Better yet ask a person like David Ritcherson, if you dont know who that is. David was a Mexican-American who was the victim to a horrific hate crime where he was beaten, , burned with cigarettes, had a swastika carved into his chest, sodomized with a plastic umbrella pole, and doused with bleach while his attackers yelled, "White Power!" and left him for dead. I am sure the Symbolism of the Swashtika wasnt lost on him nor the people who attacked him. To many people the Confederate Battle standard is ually seen as a symbol of this. 
Since many southern based hate groups have hicked the Confederate flag. It's the image that most get when they see the flag. As I stated before it's why I am torn on the Issue, but I can at least see Both sides of the issue. -------------
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 11:45pm
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I just wanna point out, most of us who have confederate flag items (flags hats ect.), are not racist. Just proud of our Southern heritage. Makes me sick when people wanna take it and use it as a sign of hate like seen above me. -------------
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 11:49pm
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Yea well a lot of people think their cool cause they have a confed flag, and most are from the north.
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 12:03am
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South>Rest of US
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Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 2:46am
You must like frying stuff and shooting at road signs. |
Posted By: sk8r4life432
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 3:07am
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People will do what they want, who cares? If people get mad about plates the next thing will be bumper stickers ------------- NOUS DE`FIOUS ODERINT DUM METUANT |
Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 3:15am
We have grits and sweet tea. Therefore, us > you. ------------- 
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 3:49am
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SOUTHERNERS REPRESENT!! ------------- 
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 7:45am
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I don't see anything offensive about the confederate flag, I just don't understand why you want to display the flag of a dead movement. -------------
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Posted By: bjelder33
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 8:02am
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thats not right... ------------- 
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 9:15am
I say the same thing about Kerry stickers.... |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 11:10am
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Yea dude the north sucks hard.
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 11:25am
Bingo. -------------
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 11:27am
In the South, we have this.  We win. -------------
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 11:37am
Picture no workey, you lose. -------------
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Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 1:01pm
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I must say - in an argument about whether Southerners are collectively retarded, this is not helping your cause. ------------- "No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable." |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 1:07pm
Well, most Southerners are retarded.  -------------
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Posted By: djrox
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 1:55pm
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Well I'm not a southerner, but at least they don't tolerate gays, atheism, interracial marriage, and political correctness. ------------- campaignforliberty.com - campaignforliberty.com |
Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 2:16pm
Quoted for flame fest. -------------
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Posted By: PAINTBALL1
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 2:26pm
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Well I'm not souther, but at least hey don't tolerate gays, atheism, interracial marriage, and political correctness.
I'm glad someone said it. Now to the topic at hand my brother in law has said plate on his Toyota truck. Doesn't bother people any. He just moved to VA and so far they love his plate. ------------- USAF Special Weapons Technician. |
Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 2:40pm
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Translation: 10 out of 10 rednecks that commented on the plate liked it. ------------- "No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable." |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 5:29pm
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SEC>*
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 7:59pm
Proud to be part of what is considered the minority. Woo. ------------- 
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 8:36pm
Yeah, gays, atheists, and interracial marriage are killing this country. HOORAY FOR THE SOUTH. -------------  irc.esper.net #paintball |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 10:01pm
And those gay people, gosh by being themselves, they're just sending all kinds of bad messages and they should be stopped! Those interraciall marriges, gees, whats with the world these days, not being racists and all... And political correctness, dont get me wrong, I dont fit in to the term, but gees, enough sense to know not to say somthing stupid that could piss off the wrong people... people are so dumb these days...
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 10:29pm
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The Floria DMV website is lame. I have several great ideas for a vanity plate but I cant view what is available online.
/LAME |
Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 08 August 2007 at 1:02am
I could. There's a place on there where you can see what's available; I just ordered RX8 FTW. -------------
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Posted By: White o Light
Date Posted: 08 August 2007 at 1:03am
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SOUTHERNER SMOKE-FEST '08!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 08 August 2007 at 1:03am
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South sucks, thats all there is to it.
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Posted By: glazener24
Date Posted: 08 August 2007 at 2:56am
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What? I have one of those on my truck. |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 08 August 2007 at 3:13am
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Just a fair warning here, Ghost-Rider, you are not remotely funny. -------------
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 08 August 2007 at 5:56am
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Nor amusing, nor interesting, nor even remotely worth taking seriously, ever. Knock it off. The lisence plate that you've got posted in the original thread opener isn't anything new. I've been seeing them for years from a bunch of different places. Hell, I've got a friend of mine whose from New York with one. Read the stupid thing, it tells you EXACTLY what the damn thing on the lisence plate is. "Sons of Confederate Veterans" You could be from Canada and have that plate. Its no different than the DAR (Daughters of the American Revolution) plates that I've seen. That plate states that you had an ancestor who served with the confederate forces during the Civil War, not that you are a member of a race-hating organization. I've got a buddy with a t-shirt that has the confederate battle standard on it with the words "If this offends you, you need a history lesson" Far too many people associate the confederate flag with organizations like the KKK, but fail to realize that as often as the confederate flag is flown at their meetings, so is the good old stars and stripes, and with the number of slaves that came into this country under the American Flag, why isn't that seen as a racist symbol? Why don't lisence plates with the United States Flag cause a stir? I'll quit with this: Speaking in terms of the military, the South had a distinct advantage in leadership. The only reason they were beaten, was because they had little in the way of resources needed to fight a war. The confederate army had commanders like Lee, Jackson, Longstreet (debated, but still a good leader) the Federal army had people like Butler, Burnsides, Dan Sickles, and George McClellan. (Look em up) The 'we kicked the south's ass' lines only serve to make you look like an utter moron. |