I have had no problems with Crossfire tanks or their regulators. Who did your hydro? They certainly were not stopped from doing the test and did remove the broken part remaining in the bottle neck, didn't they?

I like Crossfire so well that I have installed their valve/regulator on all three of my tanks. If you had no spiking problems and no freeze up problems then there was probably no good reason to switch to HPA.

uno187 wrote: Do most fields rent out HPA tanks?

The field I play is switching all their rental markers to HPA (mostly Tippmann 98Cs). When I have had a tank malfunction, they have taken my tank for security and given me an HPA tank for the day (I did pay for the refills.)

Skillet42565 wrote: My tank is currently 3 years out of hydro and no troubles.  NitroDuck pwns.

Well, my field will check to see that your tank is still under test. I do like my 90/4500 Nitro Duck...mainly because it was cheap 'cause no one wanted a tank that large. Got it with 3 years left on the test for $85. I then spent another $65 on it to install the Crossfire valve (converted from cradle mount)

HPA more stable

68c/4500 good overall size will shoot about 1400 rounds before refill.

I run a air hog A5 & X7.

over,

Skillet42565 wrote: My tank is currently 3 years out of hydro and no troubles.  NitroDuck pwns.

personally, and dont take this wrongly, but I hope to never ever play within your vicinity sir.... seriously

if your tank ruptures or the reg becomes seperated your not only endangering your self but everyone else, if I dont regularly inspect the brakes on my car and repair replace as needed and I can't stop in time because I ran Junior over playing in the street its no different than me killing junior because my tank just became a missile  or the equiv of a roadside bomb

nuff said, rant off....

back to this gents troubles....

buying used tanks is a great way to get some good HPA stuff for cheap.... as always though its a gamble and sadly you got the band hand this round, ouch, I've found looking for used ones off the paintball forums like the nation and the like or craigslist is the best way, i avoid the bay these days, cool thing about the paintball forums or craigslists you can find people easier that are local to you and that way before any money exchanges hands your able to hold and test the item beforehand, just a hint

whatever you do try and get a working nitro tank, I think once you have found one you will be plesantely surprised at the way it operates overs co2, again good luck

uno187 wrote: Let me run this by you guys a minute.  Got this tank online due for hydro (my mistake I know now) took it to a local paintball shop for hydro. They called me the next day and said there had been a problem with the tank. They broke the reg off inside the tank. So now its useless. They tell me that whoever had it apart before put too much locktite on it when they put it back together and they couldn't do anything for me on another tank. So I take the tank and broke reg and leave. I proceed to remove the broke half from the bottle messing up the threads a bit. Then I take it to crossfire to see if the can fix it. They can't and condemn the tank for "Exposure to fire and damaged threads". Now I know that the guy who broke the reg in the first place charred the neck and in turn got the tank condemned even before I messed up the threads. Now I want to take the tank back to the local shop and tell them what they did but I wonder what retribution I have against them. Sorry its so long but I am really frustrated about the whole thing and need to know what to do next.

I would take the tank back to the shop that broke the valve and calmly and clearly state that you took it to Crossfire for evaluation and Crossfire concluded that they, the dealer, used heat on the neck of the tank. Even though you (the owner) successfully removed the broken stub of the valve remaining in the bottle neck, because of the dealer technician's application of so much heat the tank had to be scrapped. You feel they are responsible for the damage to the tank, as trained technicians should know better than to apply excessive heat to the neck of a high pressure cylinder.

The so called excessive use of LocTite should not have stopped a shop with the right tools from removing the valve. Heat was not an option on a high pressure tank. If they could not have removed the valve with their equipment they should have stopped and informed you, not applied heat.

The damage to the threads is less significant than the subjection of the bottle to the excessive heat that Crossfire identified as damage to the tank. If they feel no obligation to compensate you with a new or used tank of equivalent capacity, inform them that you are sorry that you could come to no understanding over their responsibility, but you feel it necessary to inform which ever group sanctioned the training of the technician (a sticker in the window may state where he was trained) of his incompetent and dangerous handling of your HPA tank. Not a threat, just do it.

You have nothing to lose because you certainly will not take your business there again.

i always suggest letting the hyrdotester removing the regulator....

now some hydrotesters really dont like doing paintball tanks, some wont treat them with respect and you wait weeks for thier return

check this guy out

http://www.hydrotester.com/ - http://www.hydrotester.com/

top notch company and definately will treat you right, if they bork the tank utilizing thier regulator removal option I doubt they would leave you hanging, if its borked upon arrivial its not thier problem, my advice, let the tester actually do the removal unless your 100 percent positive about your paint shop