has anyone seen/used this?
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Topic: has anyone seen/used this?
Posted By: p_p_b_h
Subject: has anyone seen/used this?
Date Posted: 08 August 2007 at 2:10pm
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i laughed when i saw this.... its the limbsaver sniper donut!!! lol a sniper donut? can anyone actually testify that the thing works? doesnt exactly scream sniper..... this is so funny, ill probably get one anyways though... http://www.limbsaver.com/Products/Paintball/Sniper_Donut.aspx - http://www.limbsaver.com/Products/Paintball/Sniper_Donut.asp x check it out... so if you want to be a sniper, get a donut!!!!lol.......... |
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Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 08 August 2007 at 2:20pm
| hey i was also wondering, what do you think would happen if i put a lot more than just 1 donut? lol ive got a 16" barrel i bet i could fit 6-8, or on my 20" i could get like 8-10... so ould it make it better to cover the barrel in this stuff? if 1 makes it better shouldnt 10 make it godly? |
Posted By: jordanpischke
Date Posted: 08 August 2007 at 2:40pm
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It seems kinda stupid IMO. I dont think it would do anything. You should buy it and tell us if it does anything. ------------- 
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 08 August 2007 at 10:34pm
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It stops your barrel from vibrating as much. Doesn't look like a bad idea at all.
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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 09 August 2007 at 12:09am
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thats kinda odd.. is it meant to be a shock absorber by adding mass to the gun? or is it meant to act as a counterweight to the tank? ------------- http://www.anomationanodizing.com - My Site 
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 09 August 2007 at 12:34am
| Sounds like a bunch of rubbish to me. Just hold the gun tighter. |
Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 09 August 2007 at 12:35am
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yeah, a tightly screwed in barrel won't vibrate. Unless you have a hell of a recoil.
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Posted By: Zippo25
Date Posted: 09 August 2007 at 2:28am
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the theory is (as i understand it) that the recoil or vibration felt in a gun from the bolt or exiting shell (real firearms) can and does mess with the sites and cause larger grouping in shots with repeated firing, and vibration dampers have been used on real firearms for quite some time to help keep the gun steady. With paintball though. theres a lot more factors at play. First of all grouping shots tightly is next to impossible given the fact that the projectile is a sphere of paint (lol) so the loss of accuracy caused by gun vibration is not a real worry and for the same reason, sites cant be relied upon in paintball with the precision that marksmen use with real guns so that factor becomes a... non factor the only real use i can see this having is it could possibly absorb some of the vibration felt in ur hands.. in all, it's a product that is trying to use real world technology on guns that wont really benefit from the results it has. I'm sure it deadens some vibration.. but will it make your groupings tighter.. i highly doubt it..
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Posted By: Roweazie
Date Posted: 09 August 2007 at 7:29am
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Lmao, thats pretty stupid. ------------- 
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Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 09 August 2007 at 10:44am
| ya but like i said, what if i coverd the whole gun in it? lol just get some rubber and cover my gun.... then cover myself...lol |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 09 August 2007 at 11:31am
It's meant to act as a shop absorber by adding shock dampening material into the mix. Metal (such as barrels) vibrate*, while rubber** materials tend to absorb/dampen the same vibrations. I would assume it works off of the same theory that causes people to throw an old blanket or jacket over tow cables when trying to "yank" another vehicle out of a mud pit. (The blanket/jacket absorbs energy from the cable helping to prevent it from flying around if it breaks.) *Minds out of the gutter. **I mean it! ------------- 
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The Guy wrote:Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 09 August 2007 at 6:23pm
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ahhh my other theory was that since you are adding weight to the front of the barrel, it would be lesslikely to come up from recoil. ------------- http://www.anomationanodizing.com - My Site
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Posted By: Zippo25
Date Posted: 09 August 2007 at 7:07pm
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"ya but like i said, what if i coverd the whole gun in it? lol just get some rubber and cover my gun.... then cover myself...lol" ooo kinky |
Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 09 August 2007 at 8:27pm
| lol ty....lol made me laugh... what if someone made a rubber barrel, or rubber gun??? omg lol setting the bounce on a gun would be trying to keep it from bouncing of the ground or sometin... meh ill try to get the sniper donut and see what happens, itll be a while tho.. |
Posted By: Zippo25
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 2:27am
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honestly dont bother. drill a hole in a hockey puck and put it over ur barrel and man rubber gun thats BRILLIANT... damn now all we need is a RUBBER PAINTBALL SHOTGUN! IT'd KILL NOOB3!! thats L33T... huzzah |
then u'd be a SICK sniper!!!!!!!!!Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 10:09am
I'd have to agree that it seems to just be a simple counterweight. It's put on the end of a barrel where it has the most leverage on the gun when you consider the axis it pivots around when fired so it's at least positioned properly as a counterweight. That would be the only way I could imagine it doing anything at all but even that would probably have a very minute effect on your groupings if you know how to hold your gun steady. Most high-end guns have hardly any recoil anyway so it would really only be useful on the low-end blow-backs like tippmanns. That is, if it works at all. I really don't think it would do crap for you. ------------- oreomann33: Everybody invades Poland Rofl_Mao: And everyone eats turkey Me: But only if they're hungary Mack: Yeah but hungary people go russian through their food and end up with greece on everyth |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 6:39pm
You're working off an incorrect assumption: It doesn't necessarily go on the end of the barrel. The accompanying text in the link clearly states, "This easy-to-install unit simply slips over most standard barrels and will work anywhere on the barrel."* That's why I think they are claiming more than counter-weight benefits.** *Bold added for emphasis. **Whether their claims are accurate or not is yet to be seen. -------------
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Posted By: Zippo25
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 7:59pm
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guys ur still overlooking the fact that a paintball doesn't fly straight enough to be an effectively accurate projectile.. sniper donut or not. reduced vibration in a paintball gun is a waste of money. the only time this vibration damper would be useful would be if u were staked out under cover "sniping" people from long distances away with repedative shooting. yu could never use this in speedball, walking the trigger and running like a mad man or jumping out from behind a bunker all will all have much more noticable effects when it comes to ur groupings then some gun vibration. and in the case of "sniping" or long distance marksmanship with a paintball gun.... come on, you're shooting a .68 calibre ball of paint with compressed air at under 300fps.. gun vibration is the least of ur concerns. |
Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 10:08pm
| i think its more for keeping speedball gun shots clustered close, like 1st shot is not going to change, but the shots after it should stay as acurate as teh 1st shot. i have noticed that, when shooting faster, the cluster of my shots tends to expand a small bit. |
Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 11 August 2007 at 9:24am
If it goes anywhere on the barrel then what I said is still true, although putting it on the end is the smartest place to put it if it is indeed a counterweight. I don't see it being capable of doing anything other than adding weight so I'm assuming that is the only purpose it serves. They can say that it will work anywhere on the barrel but they don't say it will work well at any position. You also have to consider that a 0.004" tighter grouping might be their definition of working. Either way, I agree with Zippo that this thing is most likely useless on a paintball gun. EDIT: Forgot, the other function was to absorb vibration. Um, maybe it's just me, but my gun does not vibrate. It recoils when I shoot but that's all. The only 9v on there is to power the APE board, not to make it a vibrator. ------------- oreomann33: Everybody invades Poland Rofl_Mao: And everyone eats turkey Me: But only if they're hungary Mack: Yeah but hungary people go russian through their food and end up with greece on everyth |
Posted By: salami
Date Posted: 11 August 2007 at 12:32pm
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it might possibly help, not much but a little, honestly i feel like limbsavers just trying to cash in on an already crowded paintball aftermarket of useless gimmicks however.... I have a few of there buttstock pads on my carbine Mosin Nagants and my Mossberg 12 gauge and let me assure you these are literally limbsavers, Im a very small guy at just over 5 feet and on a good day a whopping 125 lbs, yep Im a skinny lil sob so those rounds out of the Nagants and the slugs out of the Mossberg throw me like a rag doll, without the pads I dare not shoot them unless I absolutely had to I stand behind the company just from that experience because they work, so quite possibly they are on to something there, doubtful I'll buy it and try it because I have a stock on my gun and its quite stable.... lots of folks say a flatline isn't accurate, not true if your using a stock, guys that hold it 2 handed freely however yes it does get a lil squirly, anyhow my 2 cents on it, probably works but so minimal its not worth the money spent YMMV as always
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Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 11 August 2007 at 7:19pm
| .....the only time flatlints arnt acurate is when the paitn to bore match is horrible. stocks dont do much for acuracy, actually my stock on my a5 hinders my acuracy. with a mask on and the stock in the way you cant line the sights up, and oyu cant snap for beans, and oyur less mobile. if you cant hold a marker while bracing the tank against urself firmly you need to work out... my done up cocker is really heavy but i can still peg hoppers and such at 60-80ft easily. now how does a stock that is on the back of the gun, keep the barrel, which is on the front of the gun, more stable... |
Posted By: salami
Date Posted: 11 August 2007 at 10:30pm
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it comes from my rifle shooting, I need something against my shoulder, and although a tank in theory does the same thing, its just in the wrong place, i find Im way more dangerous with a proper stock than trying to cradle a tank, drop forwards might make the overall length of things tighter but it even makes the marker higher off what my sightlines typically like and I can't stand it, different strokes for different folks I guess I have an m4 style stock for my cocker, had it with my original trilogy, kept it when i got rid of that in case I ever got one again, now I have the tactical and I plan to put it on again, but this time Im investigating having a machine shop make a custom piece thats more secure than the bolt guard thats on those guns, its a lil flimsy for attaching the stock which is the way it was sold and intened to attach to but it feels more natural to me, sorry Im just not sold on the whole race gun concept so I go and try and undo that, go figure right
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Posted By: Nuclear
Date Posted: 13 August 2007 at 12:15am
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I have seen them, they are alright for real guns...well i wouldn't use them on my gun but they work great on bow's
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Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 13 August 2007 at 11:47am
| .....lol.... can you really look down the sights with a stock? not with a mask on... the tank is lower and is acutally is in a better place, when against your shoulder the sights align easily...are you actually trying to make your gun go slower by putting hte stock grip on?? .... |
Posted By: jocasta
Date Posted: 16 August 2007 at 3:20am
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how weak would you have to be where kick effects you hardly at all
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Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 17 August 2007 at 5:25pm
| ino.... the barrel will obviously move a slight bit, maybe to make the imediatly next shots decrease maybe 2 or 3 inches, but if you think theres recoil to your gun and you need a stock to keep it from going "squirly" either your barrel is made of rubber, or your arms are... ive talked to a friend who put it on his shocker, he says its not a dramatic change as a barrel kit does for acuracy but his shot groupings on me seemed much more acurate(on the recieving end so i understood the change best...all nice and clustered on me for 1 big bruise and not a whole bunch of small welts..) and it was more quiet than usual. even that slight advantage is something worht having, especially at $20. |
Posted By: PaulRocks41
Date Posted: 28 August 2007 at 6:47pm
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 05 September 2007 at 6:20pm
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i never knew something as stupid as a rubber donut could get so many responses...its stupid, all paintball guns...excluding flatlines, shot almost the same distance 1.) it only takes 1 shot to get some1 out 2.) no "snipers" in paintball 3.)if u r "sniping", u dont need this simply because snipers are a "one shot one kill" type this donut is ment for tighter grouping, they need to make a better name for it. NTM its completely stupid in my opinion, especially in speedball. the only thing i could think it would really be useful for is to set your barrel on a rock or something and not scratch the barrel up ------------- 
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Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 01 October 2007 at 10:37pm
| Hey sorry to bump my own old thread but i just got one of these. Its not meant as a counter weight, its the specific denseity and shape of the sniper donut. it does dampen the sound, i find it is hard to hear when others are shooting, which is almost always. the accuracy increase really isnt near as much as say a barrel kit does, but i can see a difference. i put the gun in a vice with and without the donut on, tried it a bit and tried it myself. its like an half inch tighter or so groupings at around 60 ft. at longer ranges it shows little more consistency than without the donut. it doesnt really do anything for single shots but i find burst stay closer. i picked mine up for 3.25, i personally think its worth it, i cant see it getting worn out. it wont give you perfect and quiet shots but a good pick up if you get them cheap. |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 02 October 2007 at 12:03am
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Thanks for the follow-up. I may have to check these out.
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Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 07 October 2007 at 5:34pm
| .... i just found out there are a lot of variables that affect the sniper donut. where you put it on your barrel, what barrel you have, even velocity seems to affect it. i htink it may also have been te weather/ temperature, so it may not be hte best for everyone all the time... find that sweet spot on the barrel and its the best. |