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Category: Paintball Equipment
Forum Name: Which Gun is Best
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Topic: Help on choosing gun PLEASE
Posted By: jesseat956
Subject: Help on choosing gun PLEASE
Date Posted: 09 August 2007 at 10:20pm
hey guys my crappy (excuse the language) tippmann leaks and i dont no anyway to fix it so im planning on buying a new gun so i was just wondering wat would be better a spyder electra or an ion if so what kind of ion if theres any, any replies would be much appreiciated thanx



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Posted By: jordanpischke
Date Posted: 09 August 2007 at 10:33pm
Do you have warranty on your gun, because if so send it back before buying a new one. Have you tried taking it to a pro shop to get it fixed? I would do all of this 1st before buying a new one.

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Posted By: jesseat956
Date Posted: 09 August 2007 at 10:39pm
well my warranty ran out but how much do u think they would charge for fixing it because i think the problem is with the power tube so yea im kinda worried itll end up costing more than the gun itself... and thanx i appreciate the reply


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 09 August 2007 at 11:03pm

Wha? New powertube costs maybe about $20. Where is it leaking? We can probably help you fix it...



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Posted By: jesseat956
Date Posted: 09 August 2007 at 11:12pm
oh 4 reals! wow i didnt know that, well when i screw in the tank all the air escapes through the power tube the area that pushes the paintballs foward it still shoots but the gas is constantly leaking and i run out of air after like 40 shots w/ a 9oz. And thanxs in advance


Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 09 August 2007 at 11:38pm

http://www.tippmannparts.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=375 - Here is a stock tippmann power tube.

There are other power tubes out there that are alluminum instead of plastic. As long as you don't try to tighten your bolts as much as possible, you won't strip anything.



Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 09 August 2007 at 11:41pm

Hm. Let's see here. First, let's establish parts. Internally, there are 4 main parts: The bolt, the power tube, the hammer and the valve. These aren't all the parts, but thes are the main ones. Can you ID each part?

If the air is leaking out of the front of the powertube as you say, it sounds like an o-ring in the valve is busted. Are you able to take the valve out of the power tube? If so, can you get some pics or an accurate description?



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Posted By: jesseat956
Date Posted: 09 August 2007 at 11:45pm
oh ok sure ill do it righ now, thanx by the way


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 09 August 2007 at 11:46pm
We be here to help.

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Posted By: jesseat956
Date Posted: 09 August 2007 at 11:59pm
umm i have a question is the powertube supposed to be like stuck to the gun because its pretty hard to take out and im afraid ill break the power tube any suggestions on how to do it?


Posted By: jordanpischke
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 12:01am
Did you take the screws out of it?

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Posted By: jesseat956
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 12:04am
i completley removed all the screws from the gun except for the hose but i dont think it matters so what do u think it is? thanx 


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 12:06am

Well, if you look on the side of the right body shell, there are two screws where the power tube and valve are bolted in. These are Lock-Tited on, so they may be difficult to remove. After that, the power tube should just pull out.

Edit: BE VERY CAREFUL when re-tightening these screws. The metal in the valve is very soft, and is easily stripped. Also, you will have to re-seal the threads of these two screws, or your 98 will leak. I used blue (the non permanent) Lock-Tite, but if you can find small teflon tape, that should work too.



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Posted By: jesseat956
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 12:09am
well i removed them they seemed harder to take out but the power tube still seems to be glued in or something should i just pull really hard? thanx


Posted By: jesseat956
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 12:15am
ok yea it was just stuck in there but i removed it, so do i have to remove the gas line?


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 12:16am
Yeah, they were locked in there with thread sealer. If all the screws and bolts are removed, then the power tube should just pull out. It does take some effort though. On the same side as those two screws, there's a plastic "plug." That's a little extension on the tube that holds it in place. You have to pull the power tube out of that, so be careful not to break it.

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Posted By: jesseat956
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 12:21am
oh ok thanx but wat about the gas line ive tried to remove it but its really tight...

Nevermind i removed it but now i need to take out the valve do i just pull it out? i really dont want to damage anything because i want to go paintball again next week.


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 12:33am
Insert the eraser or flat end of a pencil into the thin end of the tube, and it should just pop out.

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Posted By: jesseat956
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 12:35am
oh ok thanks alot i really appreciate it.... so do i just post the pics of the valve or do i have to open it?


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 12:46am
Well, are there any broken, sheared or cracked o-rings?

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Posted By: jesseat956
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 12:52am
actually no but the ring seems really dry for some reason should i lubricate it? could that be the problem for the leak?


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 1:01am

Uh, this may sound stupid, but is your velocity adjustment screw in the valve?



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Posted By: jesseat956
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 1:05am
 yea it is i just removed it now to take off the valve everything seems fine though could the problem be within the valve?


Posted By: jordanpischke
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 1:13am

You will have to figure out what exactly is leaking. I know when I broke my gas line and replaced it with a new one I didn't tighten it enough and it had a leak. I tightened it up and it works fine now. Can you remember exactly where the leak was?



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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 1:15am

Hm. If it's not the velocity screw or the main o-ring, then it could be internal. I guess you can try to oil the o-ring and reassemble it, but if it still leaks, you may need to buy a new valve. They are only $30.

I'd wait for a second opinion though...



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Posted By: jesseat956
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 1:23am
yea i will tighten the line and lube the o-ring and see if it works... by the way i really appreciate it guys keep up the good job and thanx


Posted By: jesseat956
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 2:02am
hey guys i put it back together but it still leaks i guess i do have to buy a new valve or i guess i can go to a paintball shop and get it fixed anyways thanx for all ur help i really appreciate it


Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 13 August 2007 at 3:08am
Try to get us some pics of the pieces so we can take a look at them, maybe we can spot the problem before you spend any money. If not then you can take it to the store to see if they can fix it. If even that fails, you can either send it to tippmann or buy a new valve. As DeTrevni said, leaks through the powertube are most often related to a problem with the o-ring in the valve. If you go to your local store, they may have a replacement laying around. Tank o-rings usually go for like 50 cents or less so they probably won't charge you more than that for it. If you're using CO2, it's possible that some liquid CO2 got into the valve and screwed up the o-ring which may be why you're having leaks. If the gun has always done this then it's possible (though unlikely) that there is a problem with the pin. If it is defective it may be getting stuck, leaving the valve open and allowing air to go right out the front.

Since this thread has turned into troubleshooting, I'll ask that you list your gun and all of it's upgrades so that we can more easily isolate your issue.


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Posted By: jesseat956
Date Posted: 13 August 2007 at 3:49am
well it was my stock 98 custom( i dont think it had any upgrades) that was leaking but i took it to Green Beret dont know if uve heard of it but they charged me like 20$ just to see wat was wrong w/ it plus the cost of any broken parts which suks  so im getting it back until next week which suks even more... but thanx for the reply man its just that i went yesterday so its kinda my fault for giving up so quick


Posted By: Jason Doering
Date Posted: 17 August 2007 at 6:13am
ehhh well at least u no what to do the next time u have a problem like this.



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