PAINTBALL1 wrote: I kind of aggree. I am kind of interested in seeing what Rockstar has in mind for their PS3 exclusive.

If GTA4 is still slated to be relased on the 360, I don't care too much.

wii

metroid prime 3, zelda, mario galaxy, super smash bros, mariokart should i go on?

In order to have a 360 in your wireless network you need a wireless bridge or equivalent.

a5Tpp789 wrote: wii metroid prime 3, zelda, mario galaxy, super smash bros, mariokart should i go on?

You can't, that's all. The wii is turning into a massive disappointment for the owners, it's lineup is nothing but low-grade ports and lazy third party development. The most use I get out of mine is the Virtual Console, playing Mario and Wave Race.

Buy a PS3 now and you'll feel like those of us who picked up our 360's last year for 400, and now the Pro has dropped to 349 plus comes HDMI ready.

And any game that's ported from 360, or codeveloped, so far has been the inferior of the two. The 360's lineup is pretty amazing at the moment, with four or five big names (i.e. Stranglehold) coming out this month, and plenty more as we hit the holiday season.

If you're referring to my post, I meant that the PS3 games were inferior. The 360 ports have been far superior in almost every situation. Even FEAR, which graphically suffered when moved from PC to 360, degraded in frame rate when moved to the PS3.

It makes sense-it's hard to develop for two drastically different systems at the same time, so they're focusing their attention on the more popular system. Until the PS3 gets out into the public, the public isn't going to get the big end of the development stick.

http://cgi.ebay.com/XBOX-360-LOT-WITH-6-GAMES-AND-WIRELESS-HEADSET_W0QQitemZ330153629595QQihZ014QQcategoryZ62054QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - Pretty good deal if you can catch it.

Boss_DJ wrote: stratoaxe wrote: a5Tpp789 wrote: wii metroid prime 3, zelda, mario galaxy, super smash bros, mariokart should i go on? You can't, that's all. The wii is turning into a massive disappointment for the owners, it's lineup is nothing but low-grade ports and lazy third party development. The most use I get out of mine is the Virtual Console, playing Mario and Wave Race. Buy a PS3 now and you'll feel like those of us who picked up our 360's last year for 400, and now the Pro has dropped to 349 plus comes HDMI ready. And any game that's ported from 360, or codeveloped, so far has been the inferior of the two. The 360's lineup is pretty amazing at the moment, with four or five big names (i.e. Stranglehold) coming out this month, and plenty more as we hit the holiday season. i play my wii everyday...there is so many great games for it that i feel like a little kid again waiting for my paycheck every week to go get a new one...i dont know a single person with a wii that has showed any signs of disapointment and its still impossible to find one....but then again im the kind of person who would rather play mario strikers over fifa world cup or mario kart over forza....to each his own, but dont make a huge generalization of the public opinion because you dont like the thing

I wasn't really making a huge generalization, I'm going by what I hear from Wii owners. And the quality of games out for the Wii just isn't great-of course it's personal opinion, and that's awesome that you're happy with yours, but it's undeniable that the Wii is receiving the short end of the development stick. Not saying we won't see some great titles in the future, just not in the immediate future, so it would be hard for me to recommend buying one to somebody just based on the experience I've had with mine.

I chose an Xbox 360.
Right now the games out for it are much better, Xbox Live is much more user friendly in my opinion, and I have no need for an HD format.

People that say the Xbox is cheaper are wrong.

If you add the HD DVD player and a wireless network adapter it comes out more expensive.

I also like rumble in my controllers, something sony did not feel was necessary to integrate.

There is also a possiblity for modding the xbox in the future, this is doubtful for the PS3.

A book.

If not, a PS2.

(It's such a great choice that it warrented breaking thread rules).

I might just buy a ps3 for Killzone 2 that looks badass

¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤ wrote: Ticalxx421 wrote: heliumman77 wrote: The xbox 360 has the better controller obviously, but whats so good about live? you have to pay to play playstation has it for free.  I think its worth the cost M$ hool you up with some free DLC everyonce and a while. People in the U.S can download movies. Xbox Live Arcade is amazing(I dont know is ps3 has something like that) I'm not sure what XBL Arcade is, but being named "Arcade," I think I have a decent idea. And yeah, PS3 will have something like that when Home comes out in... October or November I think.

XBLA is where you download games straight from the internet, most of them are Independent companies, a majority of the games are worthless (i.e. ports from older systems like the Genesis), but there are some really awesome games to be found, and most of them run about ten bucks.

The Wii Virtual Console is a little more useful for me, since I love old N64 games, and they're starting to add the classics (Ocarina of Time, Super Mario 64, and Wave Race are now up).

FROG MAN wrote: its hard to say, alot of people are saying there is a rumblie six-axis in the works others say it will never happen Six axis if used rights, works and feels great, I never noticed rumble with my ps2 or xbox, so i dont really care though. as for the controlers them selves, again i play both tons, and dont notice a differnce after like 5 minutes.

Supposedly Sony hooked up a contract with a company that will add rumble to the Six Axis, but I don't see it happening soon. Besides, it won't do you any good on the games that are already out.

Agreed that I never notice the rumble myself with the 360, though with a light controller like the Wii Remote, it's more distinct.

heliumman77 wrote: The xbox 360 has the better controller obviously, but whats so good about live? you have to pay to play playstation has it for free.

Live is a great service, and not terribly expensive. I've never played the PS3, but I've loved having XBL.

The best thing you can do is take a look at the lineup for both companies, and weigh the cost. Right now the PS3 is in its earliest stages, so you don't have a good idea of what kind of exclusive development you'll see, and worst you're really not seeing the amazing quality that Sony promised yet, so it's hard to judge whether you'd be happy with your investment. Again, with the 360 you already have a decent library, and even quite a few excellent $20-$30 games floating around out there. Up to you entirely.

¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤ wrote: heliumman77 wrote: DAGN IT!!!! Well I guess they had only so many ps3's so sadly i'll be not getting one But he said they have some pretty good 360 prices. You went somewhere to buy a PS3 and they didn't have any? Thats actually kinda surprising... most stores anticipated a large sale and ended up over-ordering them.

since the price cut ps3 sales have gone up like 135% or something crazy like that,

to bad it wont last for long once all the 60 gigs are gone

edit, also psn (playstation network) is very good, basicly everything you can do on xbl, but its free, (not like xbl costs very much but its something)

ya, i think the 360 has a 30% break rate? but you also get like a 3 year warrantie, lol

I have heard of ppl going through 6, 360s, or having the same one since release, its hard to say

ill just post this here cuz i dont feel like making a new topic

I was reading the article how the guy put a ps3 in a 50*C sawna (sp?), and it ran for 108 hours.

any way a bunch of 360 fan boys were saying in the comments "omg, 50*C is barely hot all, my sawna is 100*C"

It makes me cry when that would be hot enough to boil your sweat...

do americans still not know that Fahenhiet is basicly unused by the rest of the world?

Most of the problems with the 360's have been overheating issues. The issue of the three rings of death has now been fixed with a better heatsink and apperently cooler 65nm chips. It also now comes with a three year warenty I believe.

I have heard the stories of people going through half a dozen xboxs but its probably solved now.

i have both and regret buying the PS3.  its just collecting dust for now.

the intercooler is great but in my case wasnt really necessary.  i bought my 360 1 month after release and a intercooler the next day.  but my intercooler burnt out and i never replaced it.

i suggest dont put it on a entertainment center's shelves if its gopnna be blocked on more than 2 sides from moving air.  mine is sitting on top of my stand away from anything that creates heat.

heliumman77 wrote: I mean is it worth it to buy the inter-cooler or go through that every time I'm gonna pick one up when I get my 360.

Some people swear by them, but if you Google it you'll find that alot of people are blaming the intercoolers for **edited** 'ing their 360.

Plus, I'm pretty sure it voids your warranty.

If your 360 is defective there's not much you can do to avoid problems. In fact it's better to run the hell out of it and let the problems show so they're fixed before the warranty runs out.

I've left mine on for hours by accident, never had any problems with it. It has one issue with freezing, but it's not obnoxious enough to send it off to MS just yet.

I believe that MS just changed out quite a few of the parts, and did a complete overhaul on the cooling system for the new line of 360's, so hopefully this problem will fade away, but nonetheless it will always be a huge black eye on the X-Box performance history.