Street Racers
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Topic: Street Racers
Posted By: Da Hui
Subject: Street Racers
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:06am
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/rant I'm sick of you morons. You and your fart can goaste exhaust on your '95 Civic. Its retarded. You people drive around like your in a Ferrari. Your morons. The entire lot of you. I dont care how many turbos you have, its still a '95 Civic! Ugh. ------------- 
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:08am
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I have a friend with a '95 Civic that hauls major ass. The problem is that there are entirely too many inexperienced drivers that watch The Fast and the Furious and all of the sudden become pro racers. Though I have to say they're fun to smoke at stop lights... ------------- 
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Posted By: Nuclear
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:16am
Oh so much, i pull up to a light next to one, they rev up their fart can and i rev up my truck, needless to say, V8> V6,actually, some older ones have 4 bangers...rofl noobs. ------------- 
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stratoaxe wrote:Posted By: stick_boy_2002
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:18am
thats why i cant wait to get my diesel truck, ill just rev up and blast them with black diesel smoke.  ------------- 
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Posted By: chronic future
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:20am
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meh i dont even bother with them, but im certainly not bashing civics. a guy i know can run a 1/4 in 11 seconds in his 99 civic. tuners > fast and the furious kids |
Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:20am
| ROFl at ghost-rider trying to act like he is older and can drive. |
Posted By: Nuclear
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:24am
ROLF at you using an old burnt out joke. -------------
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Posted By: youm0nt
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:27am
| RICERS FDL(FOR DA LOSE) |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:29am
Sure it does. |
Posted By: little devil
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:30am
| streets = stupid. Track i can repect them for only cause they arent on the streets being stupid. |
Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:37am
| I won't race on the streets just because I would be a hypocrit for saying how I hate people when they race down the highway. I would rather go to the track because it is safer and not frowned upon or illegal. |
Posted By: Nuclear
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:38am
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I find racing dirt roads more fun, and in areas where there are no homes it's much safer.
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:42am
11 seconds through a quarter without nitrous, to be exact. I'd consider that hauling pretty hard. -------------
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Posted By: Nuclear
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:43am
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He was agreeing with you.
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:44am
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Pretty sure that was sarcasm. -------------
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Posted By: Nuclear
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:45am
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Hrmm, maybe just a little.
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:48am
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:52am
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Same times my friend runs. But as you said, there's a huge difference between a tuner and a random rice burner. Those were my favorite races-people who thought that ground effects and overstretched exhaust tips gave them godlike horsepower. My other pet peeve-paint your damn four bangers. Srsly. It's not cool to drive around in a car that has three different shades of primer. Or better yet-install ground effects and leave them flat black. That screams I don't make enough money to actually make this car go. -------------
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:55am
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anything fwd is a family/economy car. nothing else. period. Although i am not condoning street racing, i can respect a nicely tuned car, as long as it is tastefully done, none of that crappy cosmetic stuff. The main reason for street racing out here is lack of a drag strip. The nearest one is in St. Louis (2 hour drive). Now you have to admit, something that you have put a lot of time, money, and hard work into, you aren't going to not want to take it for a fun run. And you definitely aren't going to spend the gas to drive a hundred miles to run just a few times. Edit: Oh, and Da Hui, i think it's funny that you call them goatse mufflers also. ------------- X |
Posted By: Nuclear
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:57am
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I say as long as your in a deserted area with no innocent bystanders its fine.
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 1:05am
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Posted By: Nuclear
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 1:12am
Example (well, its not rice but you get the idea )  -------------
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Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 1:15am
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Haha, it's funny this rant was posted because I had a close encounter of the ricer kind the other day. There were 3 cars that looked like mid-90's japanese cars (camry/civic/whatever) and they had the fart cans and the craptastic paint jobs. I pull into the gas station and as I'm getting filled up the convoy of retards pulls out. Of course, they can't just casually enter the highway, they need to make an exit because they're formula 1 drivers. So they pull up to the highway and proceed to cut off cars that are heading at them at about 50-60 mph assuming that they are fast enough to get up to speed before these cars reach them. Then reality kicks in. They floor it making a whole bunch of noise and go nowhere but they come ever so close to losing control of their cars and kind of dance around at low speed between the two lanes while traffic slows down to avoid creating the apocalypse in front of this once peaceful Hess station. And this happened with each and every one of them so I got to sit there and laugh at all 3. And the best part is that my nearly bone stock 3.4L grand am (also front wheel drive) could probably smoke them. Haha, I can't wait to get my firebird on the road and start playing with the engine and exhaust. I'll be eating rice on a daily basis.  ------------- oreomann33: Everybody invades Poland Rofl_Mao: And everyone eats turkey Me: But only if they're hungary Mack: Yeah but hungary people go russian through their food and end up with greece on everyth |
Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 1:19am
Not rice but just as stupid and annoying. I did notice that the idiots who usually drive the ricers are taking a dump on some other cars now as well. If it's not a japanese car, it's almost always a VW but they do the same thing. Slap a fart can on a small car with a 4 banger and drive like an idiot. It sounds stupid, looks stupid, and just plan IS stupid. ------------- oreomann33: Everybody invades Poland Rofl_Mao: And everyone eats turkey Me: But only if they're hungary Mack: Yeah but hungary people go russian through their food and end up with greece on everyth |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 1:24am
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Yeah, us teenagers are pretty retarded when it comes to driving. Story semi-related: One of my friends rear ended a lady the other day. They pulled off the road into a parking lot to inspect the damage and exchange information for insurance reasons. Well, my friend forgets to put the car in park before he gets out, and the his car winds up hitting her car yet again.... .------------- X |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 1:56am
------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 2:02am
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This entire time I have heard nothing but bashing, but what about the cars
that are tuned and actually made to go fast. My friend has a honda del sol he has a vtec in it and new exhaust and not some stupid fart can either. He hasn't done anything to make it look different it is just the stock dark green color it goes fast and sounds good, so you can't just say all "rice" burners are hideous. ------------- <Sig violation, Section 1> |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 3:20am
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^You sir are wrong, we can, and probably will, I don't like how hondas look in general, so I still prevail. ------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 3:38am
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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 4:37am
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Suppose it is all personal preference but really his car gets good gas mileage
goes fast and will run forever so you can't really complain. ------------- <Sig violation, Section 1> |
Posted By: bjelder33
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 5:34am
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ahahaha, i love when i see two ricer burners goin at it
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Posted By: bjelder33
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 5:36am
aaaaaaaaaaahahahahaahaaaa thats the funniest thing i've heard in a while. a vtec. lmao also a del sol + exhaust =/= fast -------------
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 10:59am
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Better than the simple "rice burner" exhausts being slapped on civics and such; are cars that usually carry a better potential at being a tuner car(RSX's and the like) that have an owner that thinks they are racing cars right out of the show room. It's almost sad sometimes.
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Posted By: Bounty
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 11:11am
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I hate idiots with civics and while I understand a Focus is close to a domestic version of the civic but I still love my SVT, even if its a 4 cylinder. Of course this is only temporary until I make the money for an SVT Cobra. I can respect 4 cylinders more but they still dont come close to an American V8. Im just happy I can still smoke those pieces of jap-crap. |
Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 11:21am
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V-TEC JUST KICKED IN!!!!! Anyway, yeah... street racers make me giggle. ------------- 
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 11:25am
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lol @ this entire thread... For all of you V8>everything people, it's not about the engine, it's about the builder, and then the driver. Don't kid yourself-I've seen four bangers outrun plenty of V8's. And that's coming from a person who prefers American V8's over basically anything. I've never even owned a rice burner. But I've had my tail end handed to me by a few. -------------
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 11:29am
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Pics of said cobra?
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:07pm
QFT. Just look at the WRX, that's a 4 banger that will smoke a lot of 8's. I don't mind rice burners, if they are tastefully done. ------------- 
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Posted By: FROG MAN
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:08pm
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I would rather drive an import, then a pos american car. ------------- <1 meg sig = bad> |
Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:15pm
Me too, if money is no object. But for like 25 grand, you can have a mustang that goes pretty good and has a lot of ponies. Of course if you had a lot to spend, it would be import no question-but most people don't have 150k to drop on a car, and if you want something fun and sporty for a fraction of the price, there are quite a few cheaper american cars that fit the bill. -------------
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Posted By: Roweazie
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:26pm
Street racing are for fools, take to the track for best result, and safer for anyone .------------- 
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:33pm
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I'm not bashing 4 cyls. Most of the cars i'm considering for my next car have 4 cyls. The others have V6's. And then the majority of the cars are also Japanese. I'm considering getting a Subaru Legacy. I like the fact they are sedans, and have a lot of tuning parts. Also, they have more horse than my s-10 and get better highway millage. AWD is a plus, however i'd prefer a rwd. I'm going to start with respiratory parts first, then move from there. ------------- X |
Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:37pm
| 4 cyl are getting pretty fast now. Put a good transmission on it with good gear ratio, and the thing will go. |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:49pm
Still want a v8 though.... ------------- X |
Posted By: FROG MAN
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 1:15pm
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I could care less about ppl killing themselves because they drive like idiots, it when they put my life in risk I want to do something about it. ------------- <1 meg sig = bad> |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 1:20pm
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^^CCW.
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Posted By: Nuclear
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 1:21pm
Exactly, racing in the middle of nowhere just a couple of guys and a tree lined road is fine, as long as the only person getting hurt is the idiot driving theres really no harm done. -------------
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Posted By: FROG MAN
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 1:36pm
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lol no, i mean like take away there car/liencense, not shoot them, ------------- <1 meg sig = bad> |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 2:34pm
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i like pulling up next to just about anything when im on my bike, especially the big trucks. the ones that are dumb enough to try and cut my off or force me out of my lane get smoked. and the best part is, they have twice the cylinders, and 6 times the displacement, and im still getting 46 mpg.
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Posted By: Nuclear
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 2:36pm
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You have less engine, but also much less weight.
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Posted By: bjelder33
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 2:55pm
I used to have an RSX. They're not fast. Trust me. Quick, sporty, good handling cars, sure. But not fast. And not a tuner car. Get yourself an Evo 9, STi, etc, now you're talking a tuning car. -------------
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 3:02pm
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any car can be a tuning car, some just need more than others
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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 3:33pm
He put a vtec in it? Dear lord. And a new exhaust which makes it fast? RICEEEEEE Lolz
Exactly! A Subaru WRX STI / EVO are both 4 bangers and will own just about any under 50k v8 car. Tuned/modified, they are extremely fast.
I'll take an empty street over the track, for the sole reason that if i crash, I'll be able to get insurance money. If you crash on the track, you gotta pay it all out of pocket, unless you tow it off the track (insurance fraud.) I don't see the harm in a stoplight race in an empty area with nobody around, but that's just me. ------------- 
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 3:44pm
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^^^yeah, but do you know how much your monthly insurance cost would spike? interesting point though. ------------- X |
Posted By: Nuclear
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 3:47pm
Not if you don't crash. -------------
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 3:52pm
Also, you would most likely lose your license. really worth it? ------------- X |
Posted By: Nuclear
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 3:54pm
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Well, as long as your in an area where no people are around, chances are you will be fine, where i live theres many places you could race.
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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 3:57pm
An insurance spike from a crash would be alot less than me totaling my car on a track, and getting no money. There was a guy on RX8club.com who was doing the quarter mile, hit an oil patch, spun out and crashed his car. Like 10k damage, all out of his pocket. I have a radar detector and a pretty keen eye for cops, plus many lawyers could get me out of a street racing/speeding ticket. I do it when nobody is around, and I don't have any distractions. I also received a gift certificate to do a Skip Barber High Performance Driving School course, so I think I'll be pretty safe in my "spirited" driving. -------------
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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 3:59pm
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Around me, well not around me but about an hour away where a friend lives, there is a place where he and a bunch of guys meet up and go racing once a night every week.
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Posted By: chronic future
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 4:24pm
same here, normally 30+ modified cars every saturday night around 1:30 am |
Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 8:24pm
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It'd be pointless for me to race my car, I have too much stereo equipment in it. I gave up on the whole 'My car is super fast and can beat anything in a race!' mentality when I graduated high school. Now I'm in to luxury more than I am HP. I still like having a car that has the ability to go fast, but if you go too fast nobody can admire what you are driving!
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Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 8:28pm
So you drive a Toyota ------------- [IMG]http://i14.tinypic.com/73e0l8j.jpg"> Represent! |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 8:57pm
What do you drive? (I'm assuming it's a corrola from your sig) ? ------------- |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 12:02am
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On this topic, while comeing home Today I saw a race. Some guys in a brand spaking new (still had temp tag) Lexus GS430 vs. a Infinity G35 Sedan.
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Posted By: little devil
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 12:10am
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 12:12am
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Posted By: little devil
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 12:12am
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Posted By: lt redneck
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 1:09am
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its topics like this i wish i still had my '80 camaro. heavy car but handled like a dream. had a 327 out of a '68 vette. only problem i had with it was it was an automatic. speedo went up to 120 or something like that i had the needle buried going down this country road. while i never got a speeding ticket in the thing i did however get pulled over for and i quote "tail light is too bright" gotta love retarded cops. ------------- 
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 1:11am
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I <3 327's. High RPM heaven. -------------
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 1:17am
Oh really? My dad's 68 has a 427 big block. Unfortunately it's not driveable yet. |
Posted By: Jack Carver
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 1:20am
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So when I get my own car and feel like accesorizing it, what do I avoid to not get stereotyped and labeled? Honestly curious. thx |
Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 1:22am
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Put more money under the hood than on the hood itself. -------------
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 1:25am
No, I'm not a race car driver . . . but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. ------------- 
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Posted By: heliumman77
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 1:26am
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lol Mack.
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Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 2:02am
Yes, it's a corolla. However, it happens to have in-dash Pioneer navigation, bluetooth, infinity speakers, alpine subs, amps for all of the above, ipod integration, xm radio and nav traffic. I'm about to have the interior changed to leather i think. I didn't say I drove luxury, just that i was in to it :-) ------------- http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/857/sig9ac6cs1mj.jpg - |
Posted By: Nuclear
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 9:51am
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I want a GPS for the inside of my truck so bad...
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 9:52am
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I hate leather. I'll take a good black sport cloth over leather any day^.
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Posted By: Nuclear
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 9:54am
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Leather, hot in the summer and cold in the winter...
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Posted By: bjelder33
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 11:38am
my old car's interior > *
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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 12:12pm
/Agreed. I'd much rather have a cloth than leather. ------------- |
Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 12:33pm
Then why dont you stop wasting your money on a toyota. Damn atleast get a lexus ------------- [IMG]http://i14.tinypic.com/73e0l8j.jpg"> Represent! |
Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 12:34pm
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Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 12:38pm
Thats why I said it ------------- [IMG]http://i14.tinypic.com/73e0l8j.jpg"> Represent! |
Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 12:56pm
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Hopefully I can get my hands on a scion tc. I really like the car. I don't want it for racing but that it has a nice interior and some really cool standard features. It's just a matter of convincing my mom to let me spend my money on it. When I test drove it, since I drive manual, I testes the standard. Sure I had a very little tiny screach here and there, but I was getting used to the power that it had. When my mom jumped in, she put so much gas on before letting loose of the clutch and had a good second of burnout. Now she hates the car and tries to make every little excuse about it. Right now she will say "why do you need that much power" and "the roof is soo low that if you flip, you won't have any safe crunch area." If the car is so low, I definately won't be flipping it and the chances of me flying off a bridge are pretty slim. Any body have any good things to say about the tc? She wants me to get a mazda 3, but the tc wins out of every safety test I have seen. |
Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 1:00pm
A guy I work just bought one and loves it. It's really a nice car, and he's actually won a few races with it. I say go for it if you want it. Have you driven an RSX? I love those cars. -------------
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Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 10:24pm
About...$20k keeps me from a lexus. Use your head. And I am a car stereo installer, so I get all of the stuff I have in my car for super cheap. ------------- http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/857/sig9ac6cs1mj.jpg - |
Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 10:49pm
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I have my heart set on the scion tc right now. My mom said go ahead and try to get a better deal on the tc I am looking at right now. So I guess that it is a yes that I can get one. I haven't really be a fan for the tc look alikes. Never really cared for the rsx or civic. Well I liked the older civic, but not the new ones. It seems like a lot of cars are looking more and more the same. The 350z has so many cars that look the same as it. |
Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 10:59pm
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350z's are radically going the way of the chick car. I'm more of an Evo fan as far as tuners go. But yeah, the TC's are great cars. I only said the RSX because I drove one and loved it. Like Snipa, I'm starting to go for luxury and features more than anything else. I'm almost afraid to post the truck I bought a couple days back for fear of the flaming that shall follow... -------------
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 11:52pm
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^Post away chief. And BTW they do not deal on new Scions at all. Though you can pick one up used with around 30K miles for around $14-15K. They are great cars. -------------
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 11:56pm
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It's an 07 F-150 FX-2. Yes, it's a Ford. Yes, it's underpowered. Yes, it's incredibly huge and luxurious. It's a freakin Cadillac on the road, and I love what they did with the exterior. I'll post pics later-cue Ford bashing
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 11:58pm
| I heart the Corolla I drive when I'm home. I'll miss it while I'm at school. |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 16 August 2007 at 12:02am
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If I was gonna get a 2x4 Truck, the Fx2 would be it. Those things are sweet.
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 16 August 2007 at 12:07am
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 16 August 2007 at 12:09am
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If I can just get over the fact it's a Ford...I feel weird driving a truck that can't match the looks with the power. Maybe later on down the road when I get a better job she'll get a supercharger and a chip... Either way, Ford's giving awesome deals on them right now. I got mine $6000 less than sticker, so I decided to swap out the granny Jeep and get something a little less humiliating... -------------
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Posted By: ekeboo
Date Posted: 16 August 2007 at 12:20am
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My Geo is pretty good for me. I put a header on it. Chopped the exhaust. And it sounds like a friggen lawnmower. I'm trying to fix that. But its alright. I love my toyota i really do.
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Posted By: Nuclear
Date Posted: 16 August 2007 at 12:26am
It have the 4.6 or the 5.4 ? If you have the 5.4 your defiantly not under-powered,they have tons of torque.Man i was having fun on the dirt roads today fish-tailing everywhere. -------------
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 August 2007 at 12:26am
The new VW's are cheap as balls new? |
Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 16 August 2007 at 12:36am
All scions are very nice my dad owns an xb and my friend owns a tc I love the new xb a little better than the old because they changed the body style and gave it a newer engine with more power. As far as scions go brand new they can't and won't try to jack you around on the price, I was with my dad when he bought his and we had trouble finding a dealer to talk to us do to the fact they can't jack around the price. I love the stock stereo it is hard to drive my moms car because she has the mazda stereo in her car and it sounds like crap compared to the scion. I also like the fact that it comes with power windows and locks, most cars for 14 to 15k won't have any of those options. Also they are quite comfortable to ride in lots of reg room and head room well in the xb at least. ------------- <Sig violation, Section 1> |
Posted By: Nuclear
Date Posted: 16 August 2007 at 12:39am
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I don't like scion, i am biased against them every since the scion b or whatever that stupid looking box is called...
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 16 August 2007 at 12:49am
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