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Topic: You have GOT to see this..
Posted By: Biggziff
Subject: You have GOT to see this..
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 10:02pm
They make it sound like they designed these things....be sure to watch the videos

http://www.pepperball.com/le/products.aspxhttp://www.pepperb all.com/le/products.aspx



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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 11:11pm
Old News. 

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Posted By: DevilHunter
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 1:59am
pepperballs have been out for a while now

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Once you hear the shot, it's already too late... A5 Sniper


Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 2:54am
Originally posted by DevilHunter DevilHunter wrote:

pepperballs have been out for a while now
please please please change your sig... debates start too easily here...

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Posted By: jesseat956
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 1:43pm
lol i use pepperballs against some people


Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 1:58pm

Originally posted by jesseat956 jesseat956 wrote:

lol i use pepperballs against some people

That will get you arrested at some games.



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Posted By: QcXf
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 1:59pm
Dog the bounty hunter uses them with an a-5.


Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 4:53pm

Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

Originally posted by DevilHunter DevilHunter wrote:

pepperballs have been out for a while now
please please please change your sig... debates start too easily here...

HAHA! I was just thinking that a couple of threads ago.

First off, no snipers.

Secondly, once you hear the shot, you usually can move and dodge the paintball, unless the shooter is like...3 feet from you.  And 3 feet is no "sniper" distance.

**EDIT** Just in case he decides to remove his sig, this is what it said-

Once you hear the shot, it's already too late... A5 Sniper

If Devil removed it without anyone else knowing what it said, I would look foolish.

 



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Posted By: Biggziff
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 6:48pm
I know they've been around.  My point was the presenters in the videos make it sound like they invented these wonderful new devices...even stumbling over what to call the cyclone feeder as they obviously don't have a clue what to call it, but don't want to call it it's actual name.


Posted By: jesseat956
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 7:38pm
Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

Originally posted by jesseat956 jesseat956 wrote:

lol i use pepperballs against some people

That will get you arrested at some games.



lol yea but we have our own private field so dont worry bout it.... its just my friends and family and stuff so yea lol but that would suk so bad if i got arrested

oh and dog the bounty hunter rules lol


Posted By: jocasta
Date Posted: 16 August 2007 at 3:18am
world war 1 grandma old

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Posted By: RedDragon1313
Date Posted: 23 September 2007 at 9:08pm

sniper n. A skilled shooter detailed to spot and pick off enemy soldiers from a concealed place.

ALSO

sniper n : a marksman who shoots at people from a concealed place


Hate to break your bubble but there ARE paintball snipers.

Not the extreme long range snipers like you see in the movies, but any player that can conceal thenselves well enough to pick off an enemy without being spotted IS a sniper.  In fact the definition says NOTHING about being able to shoot further than other people, just being able to pick off your opponents from a concealed position.

I hate to dredge up the debate, but NOWHERE is is said that a sniper must shoot from an extreme distance.  Only that they be concealed and accurate at the distance they plan to shoot from.

Ever been shot by a guy you didn't see until AFTER he shot you?  Guess what, you were sniped!!!  Even if he WAS only three feet from you! (Over 10 feet suggested in reality of course, NEVER shoot anyone point blank)

Anyone that thinks that it means some extreme distance should stop watching so many movies.

 

And oh yeah, you WILL get arrested if you shoot someone with those pepperballs.  You have great trust (or are foolish) to shoot them at anyone, even on a "private" field.  It is still illegal there and if someone wants to press charges, guess what, they will stick.



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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 24 September 2007 at 10:55am
Originally posted by RedDragon1313 RedDragon1313 wrote:

sniper n. A skilled shooter detailed to spot and pick off enemy soldiers from a concealed place.

ALSO

sniper n : a marksman who shoots at people from a concealed place


Hate to break your bubble but there ARE paintball snipers.

Not the extreme long range snipers like you see in the movies, but any player that can conceal thenselves well enough to pick off an enemy without being spotted IS a sniper.  In fact the definition says NOTHING about being able to shoot further than other people, just being able to pick off your opponents from a concealed position.

I hate to dredge up the debate, but NOWHERE is is said that a sniper must shoot from an extreme distance.  Only that they be concealed and accurate at the distance they plan to shoot from.

Ever been shot by a guy you didn't see until AFTER he shot you?  Guess what, you were sniped!!!  Even if he WAS only three feet from you! (Over 10 feet suggested in reality of course, NEVER shoot anyone point blank)

Anyone that thinks that it means some extreme distance should stop watching so many movies.

 

And oh yeah, you WILL get arrested if you shoot someone with those pepperballs.  You have great trust (or are foolish) to shoot them at anyone, even on a "private" field.  It is still illegal there and if someone wants to press charges, guess what, they will stick.

Oh my god...

Thats all I can say without getting a strike.



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Posted By: strykerx15
Date Posted: 25 September 2007 at 12:54am
dude that guy is great on that video  . the rotery system inside the rotery houseing . hahaha . i like how the tactical vest or what ever is a 4 pod or 6 . idk . harnes. lolol. hey everyone , that set up looks like a fully auto shotgun  . lol \\

dont flame !!!;)


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Posted By: Apoc
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 6:50pm
Just for kicks I called their 877 number and guess how much they wanted for the barebones "TAC-700" (A-5 in reality). They wanted $899.99!


Posted By: jordanpischke
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 8:01pm
Originally posted by RedDragon1313 RedDragon1313 wrote:

sniper n. A skilled shooter detailed to spot and pick off enemy soldiers from a concealed place.

ALSO

sniper n : a marksman who shoots at people from a concealed place


Hate to break your bubble but there ARE paintball snipers.

Not the extreme long range snipers like you see in the movies, but any player that can conceal thenselves well enough to pick off an enemy without being spotted IS a sniper.  In fact the definition says NOTHING about being able to shoot further than other people, just being able to pick off your opponents from a concealed position.

I hate to dredge up the debate, but NOWHERE is is said that a sniper must shoot from an extreme distance.  Only that they be concealed and accurate at the distance they plan to shoot from.

Ever been shot by a guy you didn't see until AFTER he shot you?  Guess what, you were sniped!!!  Even if he WAS only three feet from you! (Over 10 feet suggested in reality of course, NEVER shoot anyone point blank)

Anyone that thinks that it means some extreme distance should stop watching so many movies.

 

And oh yeah, you WILL get arrested if you shoot someone with those pepperballs.  You have great trust (or are foolish) to shoot them at anyone, even on a "private" field.  It is still illegal there and if someone wants to press charges, guess what, they will stick.

 

I have seen so many different definitions for a sniper on here so dont use that as proof that there are snipers in paintball.



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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 12:21pm
ALL paintballers "shoot from a concealed location." Even speedballers. What do you think we do? Stand out in the open, hoping to "Matrix" anything that comes our way? Dictionary null and void.


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Posted By: jordanpischke
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 6:07pm

Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

ALL paintballers "shoot from a concealed location." Even speedballers. What do you think we do? Stand out in the open, hoping to "Matrix" anything that comes our way? Dictionary null and void.

Reminds me of whiteboard comic when doc give someone a pistol and they are doing flips and cartwheels with it wearing a black trench coat.



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Posted By: Policia
Date Posted: 04 October 2007 at 9:49pm

the whole conceled location shooting, at every scenario i go to, no one does its all baragge paint at eachother till someone is out, mmmm much like speedball, and no iam not agreeing or disagreeing with paintbal snipers, iam just saying, you cant use conceld location as a strike against it, and most certianly range, just cause it doesnt have a range of a gun doesnt mean they cant hit ya in one shot( I play SC so i know all about it), form a location unseen by others. which i think in definition is a sniper, and even the whole every ones gun fires the same range, cant use that either, and caue well in ww1 and 2 every one had bolt action and semi auto rifles that fired the same range, but not everyone was a sniper, only those who were better than others at shooting. again iam not siding iam just telling you how all your points are stupid and well if someone wants to be called a sniper let him he will probably out grow it.

and i know my grammer sucks so  if you want to use it against me be my guest.



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Posted By: Zippo25
Date Posted: 05 October 2007 at 12:17am

lol sniper. thats like calling urself the team's demolitions expert cause u throw paintball grenades around hahaha. 

 

that being said, what do you guys think of the tank-under-barrel setup these guys have going on? too heavy?    unbalanced?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol sniper



Posted By: Policia
Date Posted: 05 October 2007 at 12:42am

Demo thats funny i had a nice chuckle. tank under gun, i have a old BS gun that has the tank under the barrel and it wanst to bad, i couldnt see how it would hurt on say an A-5 or clone. you have a fore grip to balance out the weight for you, and or a stock.



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"Imagine a CO2 cartridge gun, capable of getting 20 shots per air capsule, which can hit consistantly at 40 yards!"

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November 1987


Posted By: PathfinderAFW
Date Posted: 14 October 2007 at 3:15pm
One, I hate that company already, two, how did this get to be a discussion about paintball snipers?, three, I believe in paintball snipers, not as a "long range, one-shot, one kill" kind of sense, but as an ambush, as little shots as possible, and relocate kind of sense.  Everyone knows THAT can happen, so it's really just a term we are arguing over.

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 15 October 2007 at 3:46pm
Originally posted by Policia Policia wrote:

the whole conceled location shooting, at every scenario i go to, no one does its all baragge paint at eachother till someone is out, mmmm much like speedball, and no iam not agreeing or disagreeing with paintbal snipers, iam just saying, you cant use conceld location as a strike against it, and most certianly range, just cause it doesnt have a range of a gun doesnt mean they cant hit ya in one shot( I play SC so i know all about it), form a location unseen by others. which i think in definition is a sniper, and even the whole every ones gun fires the same range, cant use that either, and caue well in ww1 and 2 every one had bolt action and semi auto rifles that fired the same range, but not everyone was a sniper, only those who were better than others at shooting. again iam not siding iam just telling you how all your points are stupid and well if someone wants to be called a sniper let him he will probably out grow it.


and i know my grammer sucks so  if you want to use it against me be my guest.



"just cause it doesnt have a range of a gun doesnt mean they cant hit ya in one shot( I play SC so i know all about it), form a location unseen by others."

So by that definition, every person in every war past or present that has killed someone by only taking one shot is a sniper? Such as a grenadier who lobs a grenade into a building and kills someone with it?

Originally posted by PathfinderAFW PathfinderAFW wrote:

One, I hate that company already, two, how did this get to be a discussion about paintball snipers?, three, I believe in paintball snipers, not as a "long range, one-shot, one kill" kind of sense, but as an ambush, as little shots as possible, and relocate kind of sense.  Everyone knows THAT can happen, so it's really just a term we are arguing over.


Because of the limited accuracy of a paintball gun, taking as few shots as possible before relocating is a poor strategy. Two balls have twice as much chance to hit the other guy as one.

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Posted By: The Green Weeny
Date Posted: 15 October 2007 at 8:47pm
"So by that definition, every person in every war past or present that has killed someone by only taking one shot is a sniper? Such as a grenadier who lobs a grenade into a building and kills someone with it?"

no look at statistics on how may rounds per kill in war, then you can understand what iam talking about, and how many of these one shot kills occured unseen and hidden, now a day even back then it was fire fights and trench warfare, everyone knew basic locations of enemy postions. and when people are getting shot at with an un known postions, its called sniper fire, no matter what gun the person is using. like when your walking down a street in a war and your opend up on and not knowing the postion they call it sniper fire. there is a reason for that, its a shooter shooting from a conceled location, but again i dont take sides on these stupid fights, half the people that argue it these days are little AGG mommy bought me my new dye kind of kids. who are proably like 13-16. whoe think volume is accuracy.

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Posted By: Zippo25
Date Posted: 15 October 2007 at 10:27pm
ok but truthfully... who cares lol.. i agree with everythign thats been said. but when it boild down to paintball who cares... u wanna be a paintball sniper be a paintball sniper.. why is this really causing such an issue lol. in the real world... paintball "sniping" and real sniping are completely different. so i can understand why people are all "theres no paintball snipers ra ra ra". and i personally agree. the general idea of what a sniper is/does, simply cant be recreated with paintball equip. however. knowing that, if someone wants to play with the mentality of using "sniper tactics" as in keeping hidden.. one hit kill etc etc. for the thrill of playing with a more challenging or just different approach? good on them... they wanna be paintball snipers? awesome.. who cares what people call themselves?


Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 15 October 2007 at 10:46pm
Go to google, type in "WTO Pepperball" and click the Youtube video link of the WTO riots in Seatle. You can see tons of riot cops using pro-carbines for marking and pepper-dispersion. Fair warning, the song has some explicit lyrics that plays with the video.

In an attempt to avoid the latest round of the "sniper" debate. I'll link to the previous debate that took place not long ago: http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=170423&PN=2 - Link

Enjoy 10 pages of flaming goodness!

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Posted By: scotchyscotch
Date Posted: 24 October 2007 at 10:48am

Giant "who cares?" (snipers)

Pepperballs- I want some.



Posted By: Brianwawrz
Date Posted: 24 October 2007 at 6:50pm
Haha just watched the WTO pepperball movie. Thats hilarious. Is a
pepperball any different from a regular paintball? Im pretty sure that it is
just a normal paintball with pepper powder instead of paint. Anoyone
know?


Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 27 October 2007 at 10:04pm

Originally posted by Brianwawrz Brianwawrz wrote:

Haha just watched the WTO pepperball movie. Thats hilarious. Is a
pepperball any different from a regular paintball? Im pretty sure that it is
just a normal paintball with pepper powder instead of paint. Anoyone
know?

There are currently five types of PepperBalls available:

RED - Live PAVA (Capsaicin II) powder projectile
PURPLE - Scented inert powder projectile
CLEAR - Inert liquid projectile
WHITE - Glass-shattering projectile
GREEN - Dye marking projectile

PepperBalls are made from a hard plastic that resists extreme temperatures. The powder-filled projectiles have an operating temperature range of -30°F to 150°F. Under standard conditions of heat and cold, the projectiles will continue to function reliably; however, it should be noted that using the projectiles in cold weather could result in an increased pain penalty.



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Posted By: Ben Dover II
Date Posted: 27 October 2007 at 10:56pm

sounds expensive



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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 27 October 2007 at 10:57pm
Originally posted by kurieitaa kurieitaa wrote:

Originally posted by Brianwawrz Brianwawrz wrote:

Haha just watched the WTO pepperball movie. Thats hilarious. Is a
pepperball any different from a regular paintball? Im pretty sure that it is
just a normal paintball with pepper powder instead of paint. Anoyone
know?

There are currently five types of PepperBalls available:

RED - Live PAVA (Capsaicin II) powder projectile
PURPLE - Scented inert powder projectile
CLEAR - Inert liquid projectile
WHITE - Glass-shattering projectile
GREEN - Dye marking projectile

PepperBalls are made from a hard plastic that resists extreme temperatures. The powder-filled projectiles have an operating temperature range of -30°F to 150°F. Under standard conditions of heat and cold, the projectiles will continue to function reliably; however, it should be noted that using the projectiles in cold weather could result in an increased pain penalty.

O noes. :|

It should be noted that my neighbor (sheriff) has the red ones.




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